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On 10/31/2025 at 2:55 PM, TwiceHorn said:

In a way you have to feel a bit sorry for Usha.

By most accounts, JD was a lot less of a shithead until he went off to Peter Thiel's gay boot camp.

 

On 10/31/2025 at 4:25 PM, wildcat09 said:

Naw, she knew what she was getting into. 

 

On 10/31/2025 at 10:38 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Nope. She is complicit. Fuck her.

Literally the opinion piece in the Globe today:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/04/opinion/usha-jd-vance-marriage-erika-kirk/

 

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Don’t feel sorry for Usha Vance

Like Melania Trump, the second lady knows exactly who she married and what she signed up for.

By Renée Graham Globe Columnist,Updated November 4, 2025, 1:08 p.m.

Ever since her husband, Vice President JD Vance, shared an uncomfortably intimate hug with Erika Kirk, widow of far-right podcaster Charlie Kirk, at a Turning Point USA event last week, Usha Vance’s marriage has been sliced and diced on social media and beyond.

Also at the event, responding to an audience member’s question about raising their three children in an interfaith family, Vance, a Catholic, said he hoped his wife, the daughter of Indian immigrants who was raised as a Hindu, would convert to Christianity.

Vance said, “I honestly do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel, and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way.”

With his comment, Vance seemed more intent on finding favor with conservative students at the University of Mississippi, where the Turning Point event was held, than in respecting his wife’s religion.

This double whammy of disrespect brought a deluge of sympathetic “You in danger, girl” memes supporting Usha Vance and debates about whether her husband, with his 2028 presidential aspirations, will dump her for a white Christian wife.

But don’t feel sorry for Usha Vance. She knows who she married and what she’s signed up for.

This “poor, poor Usha” routine is reminiscent of the silly “Free Melania” chatter that popped up during President Trump’s first term. Supporters imagined her as less of a wife and more of a hostage locked in a bad marriage to an awful man who reportedly cheated on her months after she gave birth to their son, Barron.

What was conveniently overlooked was how Melania spewed the same racist “birther” lies to delegitimize Barack Obama’s presidency and native-born citizenship that her husband had.

Usha Vance generally keeps a low profile. But MAGA world, where some apparently find a woman of Indian descent to be an unsuitable mate for a Republican vice president or future Republican presidential candidate, can’t stop talking about her. In far-right quarters, racist disdain overflowed as soon as Trump chose Vance, a former Ohio senator, as his 2024 running mate.

JD Vance “has a non-white wife, an Indian wife, and a kid named Vivek. All his kids have Indian names. So it’s like, what exactly are we getting here?” Nick Fuentes, a Holocaust denier, white nationalist, and one-time Trump dinner guest, said on his podcast after Trump selected Vance. He added, “Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?”

At the time, when asked on “Face the Nation” about Fuentes’s ugly comments, Vance called Fuentes “a total loser” and claimed that such remarks “don’t have any room in the MAGA movement” — though such remarks are the MAGA movement.

Vance could have made a broader statement about racism. But weeks later he was spreading disgusting lies, scraped from the far-right cesspool, about Haitian immigrants eating their neighbors’ dogs and cats in Springfield, Ohio.

On a New York Post podcast last week, Vance said that it’s “totally reasonable and acceptable for American citizens to look at their next-door neighbors and say, ‘I want to live next to people who I have something in common with.’” He also blamed former president Joe Biden’s immigration policies for Americans living near people who “don’t speak the same language” as they do.

Through all of her husband’s racist ramblings, Usha Vance has chosen to stay by his side. This is not an unintelligent woman. Like Vance, she’s a Yale Law School graduate. (That’s where she met him.) She was a law clerk for Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts as well as Brett Kavanaugh, prior to his confirmation to the high court in 2018.

Usha Vance has remained with this political opportunist and shape-shifter, who now defends Trump, a man he once called “America’s Hitler,” with his whole chest and who wrote, in a 2016 New York Times opinion piece, that Trump was “unfit for our nation’s highest office.

His in-laws are immigrants who moved from India to California, where his wife was born. Now Vance serves an administration that wants to restrict even legal immigration and end birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed in the Constitution.

One can only imagine what mental contortions Usha Vance must perform when she hears the Trump administration policies that her husband endorses. Then again, perhaps there’s no struggle at all and her adjacency to whiteness and power may seem like a shield to protect herself and her children, even as some of MAGA’s loudest voices will never accept her or them.

We’re under the heel of an administration that takes malicious glee in oppressing people, especially those of color, and crushing constitutional rights. Those whose lives are being brutalized and interrupted deserve empathy and support because it’s America — not Usha Vance — that’s in danger.

 

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11 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

 wow this thread turned sick I guess.  I'm not sure there's a place for me in this online world anymore.

 

You know, the people involved are the sick ones. Yes a small segment of one side makes pretty tasteless memes about Kirk’s death. They chuckle but then move on about their day.
 

The involved, his friends, his widow, they are the ones that have turned a tragedy into a freaking merchandising campaign. They are the ones exploiting it for any and everything. I can’t recall any funeral I’ve seen or gone to that had merchandise booths. They are using his death for fundraising, political exploitation, and anything else to gain power and money.

But sure a meme that will be forgotten in 5 minutes is the problem. 

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1 minute ago, Captain Ron said:

You know, the people involved are the sick ones. Yes a small segment of one side makes pretty tasteless memes about Kirk’s death. They chuckle but then move on about their day.
 

The involved, his friends, his widow, they are the ones that have turned a tragedy into a freaking merchandising campaign. They are the ones exploiting it for any and everything. I can’t recall any funeral I’ve seen or gone to that had merchandise booths. They are using his death for fundraising, political exploitation, and anything else to gain power and money.

But sure a meme that will be forgotten in 5 minutes is the problem. 

This era of political celebrities is disgusting.  On general principle.  The specifics of these particular celebs is extra disgusting.

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