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On 12/19/2025 at 11:51 AM, UTEE97 said:

This is where I am at. My memory is a bit fuzzy (perhaps intentionally) from the late Mack era but I seem to call us being frustrated with the defense. Yes, Muschamp was a fan favorite back then because he always carried himself like one should expect a DC to do but we were not playing well.

PK + Fatterson was a great combo for us. PK was bad here before Fatterson and was mediocre this year without him. Maybe he had to go.

I may be misremembering, but I'm almost certain our defenses were top 10 even in his last season. He was the only bright spot on that coaching staff. 

I look at Muschamp the way I look at Gruden, but also differently. They both eat, sleep, wake up, and obsess over football; Muschamp, however, can actually coach. He's been around everywhere and knows this conference. Even Atkinson is amped about the hire. I'm sure most of the defensive players from GA and FL are. Probably all over the SE. He's a dude, and he gets fired up. That's what we need. Someone to tell a player they done fucked up and it won't happen again. 

Coddling is done. This is no longer a resort, this is pain. Sark seems dialed in and I don't think any of us have seen him this way. That mf'er will win a NC in the next 2-3 years. Bet. 

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3 hours ago, MrBig said:

He looks a bit older than I was expecting but glad to see he’s still excited to coach.

 

He needs to go see the chick who did Manning's Lasik.
Unless that was the reason for Manning's early season whoops.

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4 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

He needs to go see the chick who did Manning's Lasik.
Unless that was the reason for Manning's early season whoops.

 

3 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

I hate those narrow frame glasses.
I'd rather see 70% out of contacts than 85% out of narrow frame glasses.

This is what passes for analysis and fandom now?

 

We used to BLEED!

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13 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

Defensive End
Brian Orakpo
Sam Acho

Nose Tackle
Roy Miller

Tackle
Lamarr Houston

Defensive End
Eddie Jones
Henry Melton


Outside LB
Rodrick Muckelroy

Middle LB
Rashad Bobino


Outside LB
Sergio Kindle
Keenan Robinson

Cornerback
Deon Beasley
Curtis BrowN

Free Safety
Earl Thomas

Cornerback
Chykie Brown


Nickelback
Curtis Brown
Aaron Williams

that 2008 defensive roster was pretty loaded, I don’t think the 2026 depth chart can compete. 

First, the 09 defense was better than the 08 one. I feel like some of you guys are young so let us olds regale you with tales of Muschamp's prowess as a  defensive coach.

Lamar Houston was a slow RB/LB from Colorado when he came to Texas. We tried him off the edge but when Boom came he recognized his power, put a lil weight on him and slid him inside to 3 tech where he would be a disruptor. 

Henry Melton came to Texas as a 240lb goal line RB and we used him as such until Boom came and flipped him to his side of the ball and got him to the league as a big DE who could slide inside. 

Sergio Kindle was a 5 star LB who couldn't play traditional LB because he was stupid. Boom put him at Jack end where he would go on to decapitate many a QB in his career. 

Earl Thomas was a undersized 3 star recruit from Orange Texas who was never supposed to play here. He had decent speed but was undersized at 5'9-10. Boom got him and turned him into the best safety in the country, and next to Thomas was Michael Taafe..I mean Blake Gideon, the Michael Taafe before Michael Taafe. 

 

People see the finished product with all these NFL players and don't realize that it was Boom's eye for talent that created that roster. They weren't all bunch of 5 stars. Guys were lost with no real role on the team. You had some real dummies like Chykie and Sergio. 

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On 12/19/2025 at 9:32 AM, Nivek said:

I seem to recall K-State just running the same play over and over against WM's defense and only bothered to throw the ball 3 times that game.   This feels like penny wise pound foolish.

 

On 12/19/2025 at 10:33 AM, lilMAC25 said:

In 2010? When KSU Knew that all they had to do was wait for the Texas QB to throw it back to them?

 

 

Gilbert threw 5 INTs that game for fucks sake.

 

On 12/19/2025 at 10:57 AM, Nivek said:

It takes some serious lack of awareness and reading comprehension to make that statement.     Actually this response and that of @Dahobbs @lilMAC25 @USNALonghorn @texasdago represents the inability of our fans to be thoughtful at times.   I stated I recall a game where Muschamp's failure to adapt in a game was jarring for me, and I am not certain that he will be an upgrade over PK.   Now some of you are in a feedback loop projection and have decided that I said the problem with the 2010 team was not Mack and the offensive scheme that didn't fit the people on campus and the failure in GG's evaluation to fit the team.    When all I said was that defense giving up on the same play over and over was bad.      

Someone tried to excuse it as it was OK for the defense to quit because the offense was terrible, and I countered with that is part of the fucking job to not let that happen.  

What happened in 2010 is we were thin at DT. I can't remember all the circumstances as to why it happened. Anyway, there was a stretch of games where we had to play Alex Okafor at DT, and at 260 he just couldn't hold up inside. It was a vicious circle where we couldn't score to force teams to throw so they just ran power and counter right at him all game until one popped. Also, you guys gotta remember Mack was a meddler. He wanted the recruits he wanted, so at times Boom's hands were tied. Anywho, people gotta remember he was only here for 3 years. Barely long enough to get rolling. 

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32 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

First, the 09 defense was better than the 08 one. I feel like some of you guys are young so let us olds regale you with tales of Muschamp's prowess as a  defensive coach.

Lamar Houston was a slow RB/LB from Colorado when he came to Texas. We tried him off the edge but when Boom came he recognized his power, put a lil weight on him and slid him inside to 3 tech where he would be a disruptor. 

Henry Melton came to Texas as a 240lb goal line RB and we used him as such until Boom came and flipped him to his side of the ball and got him to the league as a big DE who could slide inside. 

Sergio Kindle was a 5 star LB who couldn't play traditional LB because he was stupid. Boom put him at Jack end where he would go on to decapitate many a QB in his career. 

Earl Thomas was a undersized 3 star recruit from Orange Texas who was never supposed to play here. He had decent speed but was undersized at 5'9-10. Boom got him and turned him into the best safety in the country, and next to Thomas was Michael Taafe..I mean Blake Gideon, the Michael Taafe before Michael Taafe. 

 

People see the finished product with all these NFL players and don't realize that it was Boom's eye for talent that created that roster. They weren't all bunch of 5 stars. Guys were lost with no real role on the team. You had some real dummies like Chykie and Sergio. 

Taafe woulda caught it… just saying.

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1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

Taafe woulda caught it… just saying.

100%. Taafe doesn't drop that and we are in the title game! What a terrible night that was. 

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2 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Did Tech have any TOs?

We had a safety and int that game right?  Anyway there were like 3 secs when we got the ball, it was a joke.  But tackling him out of bounds loses the game also.

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6 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

None of that would have even happened if Colt hadnt snapped the ball with like 30 seconds on the playclock before Ogbannaya's TD

Dude- We have some serious PTSD. The amount of detail all of us remember about that game is astounding. I'm old. I frequently get flustered and call my wife with my daughter's name. I can't remember what I did last week. But I remember that game like I watched it last night. I even remember where I was and what I did directly after(took a walk around the block to cool down). 

The fact that all @lilMAC25 had to say is "Taafe woulda caught it" and everyone here immediately knew the exact play he was talking about is Crazy!

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11 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Did Tech have any TOs?

Oh, I'm dumb they had a timeout.  They were gonna run that play then kick a fg to win.  I remember thinking we had already probably lost the game before the Crabtree catch.  It wasn't a chip shot, but better than 50/50.

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39 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

None of that would have even happened if Colt hadnt snapped the ball with like 30 seconds on the playclock before Ogbannaya's TD

I remember watching this game at my sister's house with my family and losing my damn mind over this. 

It was obvious we were going to score and didn't understand what the hell the thinking was from the coaches. I predicted there would be too much time left on the clock....fuck.

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14 hours ago, MrBig said:

He looks a bit older than I was expecting but glad to see he’s still excited to coach.

 

 

13 hours ago, TOR said:

Time sneaks up on us all.

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Yes, star crossed in pleasure the stream flows on by
Yes, as we're sated in leisure, we watch it fly
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
Time can tear down a building or destroy a woman's face
Hours are like diamonds, don't let them waste
Time waits for no one, no favours has he
Time waits for no one, and he won't wait for me
Men, they build towers to their passing yes, to their fame everlasting
Here he comes chopping and reaping, hear him laugh at their cheating
And time waits for no man, and it won't wait for me
Yes, time waits for no one, and it won't wait for thee
Drink in your summer, gather your corn
The dreams of the night time will vanish by dawn
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
No no no, not for me...
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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

Dude- We have some serious PTSD. The amount of detail all of us remember about that game is astounding. I'm old. I frequently get flustered and call my wife with my daughter's name. I can't remember what I did last week. But I remember that game like I watched it last night. I even remember where I was and what I did directly after(took a walk around the block to cool down). 

The fact that all @lilMAC25 had to say is "Taafe woulda caught it" and everyone here immediately knew the exact play he was talking about is Crazy!

Same here on all of the details. People shit on Gideon for having unreliable hands as a safety, but for getting the abysmal offensive performance in the first half that put us in a massive hole. We have up a fucking safety after handing it the ball off three yards deep in the EZ. We were in a 19 point hole before we decided to break the shut out and needed Jordan Shipley heroics on ST to start the comeback. We looked slow and uninterested while Tech was flying around looking a like an MNC contender. Don’t even get me started on how badly Orakpo was held all game.

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7 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Same here on all of the details. People shit on Gideon for having unreliable hands as a safety, but for getting the abysmal offensive performance in the first half that put us in a massive hole. We have up a fucking safety after handing it the ball off three yards deep in the EZ. We were in a 19 point hole before we decided to break the shut out and needed Jordan Shipley heroics on ST to start the comeback. We looked slow and uninterested while Tech was flying around looking a like an MNC contender. Don’t even get me started on how badly Orakpo was held all game.

Ah, the Big12 and not calling holding to equalize the games. I don't miss those days at all. 

 

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The FG was in no ways a gimme. The K was a walk-on in his first game, killing at night, in Lubbock.

 

The safety obviously…. Whole first half. Scoring too quick the possession before. Gideon making the catch. The refs calling holding once on the best pass rushers in the country as they were raped play after play by giant fucking statues in black face paint, may have helped. 
 

Fuck that game… but also fuck all the horseshit after that. We were at a tail end of a gauntlet run and there isn’t a soul in the world that can justify us not making the bib 12 champ game or the national champ game. Straight up robbery.

Fuck that game.

Happy fucking holidays!!!

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18 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

Defensive End
Brian Orakpo
Sam Acho

Nose Tackle
Roy Miller

Tackle
Lamarr Houston

Defensive End
Eddie Jones
Henry Melton


Outside LB
Rodrick Muckelroy

Middle LB
Rashad Bobino


Outside LB
Sergio Kindle
Keenan Robinson

Cornerback
Deon Beasley
Curtis BrowN

Free Safety
Earl Thomas

Cornerback
Chykie Brown


Nickelback
Curtis Brown
Aaron Williams

that 2008 defensive roster was pretty loaded, I don’t think the 2026 depth chart can compete. 

 

4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

First, the 09 defense was better than the 08 one. I feel like some of you guys are young so let us olds regale you with tales of Muschamp's prowess as a  defensive coach.

Lamar Houston was a slow RB/LB from Colorado when he came to Texas. We tried him off the edge but when Boom came he recognized his power, put a lil weight on him and slid him inside to 3 tech where he would be a disruptor. 

Henry Melton came to Texas as a 240lb goal line RB and we used him as such until Boom came and flipped him to his side of the ball and got him to the league as a big DE who could slide inside. 

Sergio Kindle was a 5 star LB who couldn't play traditional LB because he was stupid. Boom put him at Jack end where he would go on to decapitate many a QB in his career. 

Earl Thomas was a undersized 3 star recruit from Orange Texas who was never supposed to play here. He had decent speed but was undersized at 5'9-10. Boom got him and turned him into the best safety in the country, and next to Thomas was Michael Taafe..I mean Blake Gideon, the Michael Taafe before Michael Taafe. 

 

People see the finished product with all these NFL players and don't realize that it was Boom's eye for talent that created that roster. They weren't all bunch of 5 stars. Guys were lost with no real role on the team. You had some real dummies like Chykie and Sergio. 

This is an outstanding post.  He took a lot of misfits and made them stars. 

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Cool thing about Kindle is he was PARADE all American on both sides of the ball coming out of high school as a RB and LB. I don't think anyone else has ever done that. That's how you know a dude will be dominant at whatever position he's put at. 

Dude ran for 5,627 yards and 86 TD's, and supposedly was even better on defense. I never saw him play in HS, but he is a legend. 

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PK recruited monsters to fit his  bend don't break, and dropped them into coverage.

BOOM is going to correct that error.  Because Texas has monsters.

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1 minute ago, TOR said:

PK recruited monsters to fit his  bend don't break, and dropped them into coverage.

BOOM is going to correct that error.  Because Texas has monsters.

That was the most annoying thing about PK. I hated his bend don't break bs. Dropping them into coverage is how he found himself in the unemployment line. Sark has made no apologies and I'm sure it's because he got tired of the defensive garbage. 

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18 minutes ago, TOR said:

PK recruited monsters to fit his  bend don't break, and dropped them into coverage.

BOOM is going to correct that error.  Because Texas has monsters.

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I hope boom gets some rage on sark when he starts his cute dumb jock shit and we never see that bs ever again. 

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50 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 

This is an outstanding post.  He took a lot of misfits and made them stars. 

Crazier than that. Boom had 15 dudes drafted that he either coached or recruited here. 3 1st rounders, 3 2nd rounders, 2 3rd rounders, 4 4th rounders, 1 5th rounders, 1 6th rounders, and 1 7th. In that time we had 4 offensive players drafted. Colt, Ship, Goodwin, and Swaim. 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 7th respectively. That began the dark ages. From the time that Boom's last dudes left in 13 until Sark got here we sent roughly the same amount to league on both sides of the ball as he did on one side of the ball in his short time here.  

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That was the most annoying thing about PK. I hated his bend don't break bs. Dropping them into coverage is how he found himself in the unemployment line. Sark has made no apologies and I'm sure it's because he got tired of the defensive garbage. 

I dont think PK’s MO was to drop ends into coverage any more than average. Orlando did that shit (i.e. Joseph Ossai).

Simmons was on a pitch count. but, on pass downs he rushed the passer over 90% of the time.
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5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

First, the 09 defense was better than the 08 one. I feel like some of you guys are young so let us olds regale you with tales of Muschamp's prowess as a  defensive coach.

Lamar Houston was a slow RB/LB from Colorado when he came to Texas. We tried him off the edge but when Boom came he recognized his power, put a lil weight on him and slid him inside to 3 tech where he would be a disruptor. 

Henry Melton came to Texas as a 240lb goal line RB and we used him as such until Boom came and flipped him to his side of the ball and got him to the league as a big DE who could slide inside. 

Sergio Kindle was a 5 star LB who couldn't play traditional LB because he was stupid. Boom put him at Jack end where he would go on to decapitate many a QB in his career. 

Earl Thomas was a undersized 3 star recruit from Orange Texas who was never supposed to play here. He had decent speed but was undersized at 5'9-10. Boom got him and turned him into the best safety in the country, and next to Thomas was Michael Taafe..I mean Blake Gideon, the Michael Taafe before Michael Taafe. 

 

People see the finished product with all these NFL players and don't realize that it was Boom's eye for talent that created that roster. They weren't all bunch of 5 stars. Guys were lost with no real role on the team. You had some real dummies like Chykie and Sergio. 

Hold on a sec, wasn't Dylan Haines the Michael Taaffe before Michael Taaffe, and Blake Gideon was the Dylan Haines before Dylan Haines? As a white person, I demand you get our people's history right.

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52 minutes ago, TOR said:

PK recruited monsters to fit his  bend don't break, and dropped them into coverage.

BOOM is going to correct that error.  Because Texas has monsters.

 

49 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

That was the most annoying thing about PK. I hated his bend don't break bs. Dropping them into coverage is how he found himself in the unemployment line. Sark has made no apologies and I'm sure it's because he got tired of the defensive garbage. 

 

4 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


I dont think PK’s MO was to drop ends into coverage any more than average. Orlando did that shit (i.e. Joseph Ossai).

Simmons was on a pitch count. but, on pass downs he rushed the passer over 90% of the time.

As this smart dude named @JBJ we got roaming around this place alluded to, PK likes to run a tite front in his stack concept which has certain rules that activate the Jack end into dropping. A smart offensive coordinator could trigger that by choosing plays that force that drop with certain alignments and thereby take some pressure off his QB. Easy way to take Simmons out of the game. 

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4 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

Hold on a sec, wasn't Dylan Haines the Michael Taaffe before Michael Taaffe, and Blake Gideon was the Dylan Haines before Dylan Haines? As a white person, I demand you get our people's history right.

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5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Dude- We have some serious PTSD. The amount of detail all of us remember about that game is astounding. I'm old. I frequently get flustered and call my wife with my daughter's name. I can't remember what I did last week. But I remember that game like I watched it last night. I even remember where I was and what I did directly after(took a walk around the block to cool down). 

The fact that all @lilMAC25 had to say is "Taafe woulda caught it" and everyone here immediately knew the exact play he was talking about is Crazy!

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You’re old?
Sheeeit sonny, lemme tell you about the 1961 TCU Cockroach game where one of those damned frogs kicked Jimmy Saxton in the back of the head when he was getting up after a play. The Horns couldn’t get anything going after that and lost 0-6, costing him the Heisman and the team an undefeated season.

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2 hours ago, TOR said:

PK recruited monsters to fit his  bend don't break, and dropped them into coverage.

BOOM is going to correct that error.  Because Texas has monsters.

Muschamp is still going to drop Simmons into coverage quite a bit. Pretty core part of the defense (and really any modern defense). 

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7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Muschamp is still going to drop Simmons into coverage quite a bit. Pretty core part of the defense (and really any modern defense). 

Yes, but it will be a scary off-blitz that makes the QB shit their pants, not a soft whatever.

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14 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

... Pretty core part of the defense (and really any modern defense). 

This is where Shaggy Surly is so good.  

 

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