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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Ddue, she's Romanian.  Those people are CRAZY.

So....not ruling it out....

Also, man, they HATE them some commies.  Daughter became friends with a Romanian girl at university, got to know her grandmother.  The woman literally spits at the ground every time the communists and the Russians come up.  Hatred is too mild a word.

I work with a dude that lived in Romania, and served in the military there, during Soviet times. He hates them. He's told me there's definitely Romanians that romanticize the Soviet period. He thinks they're fucking idiots.

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Just now, Schulz2.0 said:

I work with a dude that lived in Romania, and served in the military there, during Soviet times. He hates them. He's told me there's definitely Romanians that romanticize the Soviet period. He thinks they're fucking idiots.

Think of them like how we think of Neo-Confederates still waxing about the Lost Cause. They’re fucking losers.

Meanwhile, here's some more video on that drone taking down the Russian helicopter.

 

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I hadn't realized this guy was still doing those man-on-the-street interviews and would've thought he'd gotten out, gone dark, or was sent to the front. These are always really interesting, listening to people voice their fears in carefully selected, coded words, or on the other hand, being in total denial with constructed rationalizations.

 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Think of them like how we think of Neo-Confederates still waxing about the Lost Cause. They’re fucking losers.


Not like that at all. I lived in Budapest and in Eastern Czech Republic for over a year right when the wall came down. People were poor. Some jobs were available but not everyone had work. 
 

So people without work remember the days when Russia provided for them regardless of their job status. Of course young people with jobs are much better off under capitalism, but the old and the stupid may not be. In any case, it is an individual economic determination that people use in their thought process (can I put food on the table), not necessarily a country-wide prosperity thought process, and most definitely nothing like the neo-confederate thought process.

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GOD DAMMIT TO HELL!!!!

I was typing a long response, did a quick search in the wrong window, bounced out of Surly, OH, SHIT!!! I hit the back button, and nothing was there!


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Posted
20 minutes ago, PTINS said:

GOD DAMMIT TO HELL!!!!

I was typing a long response, did a quick search in the wrong window, bounced out of Surly, OH, SHIT!!! I hit the back button, and nothing was there!


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ted enjoy GIF

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Posted (edited)
On 9/26/2025 at 8:55 AM, Parliament said:

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What has been the turning point?  Is it as simple as Ukraine being able to doggedly wear down Russian infrastructure?  They've been barely able to take out assets barely faster than Russia can replace?  Do that for 2.5 years (!) and you achieve superiority?

A: Ukraine took the gloves off.

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On 9/26/2025 at 4:50 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

It's not even safe to take a dump anymore.

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On 9/27/2025 at 4:46 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Another one for @PTINS this time on the other side of Moscow, affecting western Russia. If officials admit to “minor damage” and that pumping operations were suspended, that probably means it’s out of commission for a while.

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^^^^ not my numbers, somebody else posted them

Similar to Refineries, what exactly Ukraine damaged is important, and very difficult to tell.

Refineries >> Pipelines >> Compressor & Pump Stations >> Storage Tanks.

The pipelines themselves are buried, and in the pump & compressor stations, most of the lines are buried, so it is difficult to know what was damaged without an idea what was there to begin with.

Fluids move through pipes like a water hose, high pressure at one end, low pressure on the other.  To fully utilize a long haul pipeline, you add booster stations along the pipeline to boost the pressures and increase the capacity.

Gas is compressible, and a compressor is used to increase the pressure in the pipe. Liquids are not compressible, and a pump is used to increase the pressure in the pipeline. The functions between the two are similar in that both pipelines have friction losses (pressure drops), but the mechanics are very different. "Hydraulics" for the lay person, "Fluid Mechanics" for the enlightened ones. 

The Urengoy Pipeline transports gas from Siberia to Ukraine to Slovakia, some 2800 miles, with 42 compressor stations along the way. They are spaced 60-80 miles apart, depending on the topography, among other things. Blowing up the pipeline is more damaging than blowing up a single booster station. When Ukraine "invaded" Russia earlier this year (last year?), they damaged a gas measurement facility on this pipeline, which caused a bigger accounting issue than an operational one.

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The pipeline itself has a maximum operating pressure, and the higher the pressure, the higher the volumes moved (throughput).  A single midpoint booster station (pumps or compressors) basically doubles the throughput of a pipeline, by increasing the pressure to offset the pressure drop.

With the multiple booster stations on a pipeline, you end up with a "saw tooth" pressure profile along the pipeline, with each station boosting the pressure to set point, (MAOP).

In the diagram below, with only Station "A" at the beginning of the pipeline, the volumes transported to the Terminal are "X".  Adding a midpoint booster at Station "C" would increase the throughput to "2X".  Adding Stations "B", "C" and "D" would would increase the throughput to "4X". Any capacity reduction at any one station could be minimized by changing the operating conditions at the stations before and after the affected station, with a minimal decrease in the throughput. Most of Russia's pipelines are operating at much lower volumes due to sanctions, so any longer term interruptions from any one station would be minimal.
 

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If the mainlines were also damaged at a station, that is a much different scenario. 

Large diameter pipeline explosions make nice pictures. A huge fireball that goes full throttle until the pipeline fuel is consumed, with the dynamic effect similar to a large jet engine on afterburner, with a 50 mile long mile tank feeding it. 
  

Urengoy Pipeline Explosion

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18 hours ago, Bevo said:

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Careful, you could put an eye out if you get too close.

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Crazy eyes. Let me get on, and turn her loose. I can last for 8 seconds. Oh, wait.

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