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9 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Not new but more detail:

Ukrainian Drone Strike Halts Russia’s Fourth-Largest Oil Refinery
By Charles Kennedy - Nov 18, 2025, 11:00 AM CST

    Rosneft’s Ryazan oil refinery, which is Russia’s fourth-largest, has suspended its main crude processing operations after being hit by a Ukrainian drone strike over the weekend.
    The plant's main crude distillation unit has been halted, and industry sources expect the refinery, which processes over 260,000 barrels per day (5% of Russia’s total capacity), to remain idle until at least December 1.
    This attack is part of an intensified campaign by Ukraine to target Russian oil refining, storage, and export infrastructure, which has also recently led to a temporary suspension of oil exports from the key Novorossiysk port.

 

Rosneft’s oil refinery at Ryazan, Russia’s fourth-largest, has suspended crude processing after a Ukrainian drone attack this weekend, industry sources told Reuters on Tuesday.  

The Ryazan refinery, which has been targeted – and hit – by drone strikes all year, has now halted its main crude distillation unit.  

“The plant is ‌expected to remain idle until the end of the month. No (oil product) loadings are planned ‌before December 1,” according to one of Reuters’ sources. 

Pavel Malkov, the governor of the Ryazan region, on Saturday said on his Telegram channel that debris from downed drones “caused a fire at one of the industry facilities” in the region, without specifying which facility was damaged.  

Another crude distillation unit (CDU) at the Ryazan refinery was hit at the end of October, taking 80,000 barrels per day (bpd) of the plant’s refining capacity offline, or about a quarter of the total capacity of the refinery.  

The unit is still undergoing repairs while the other units have also been idled, although it is not clear whether all have sustained damages from Ukrainian drone attacks, the industry sources told Reuters. 

The Ryazan refinery operated by oil giant Rosneft is one of the biggest crude processing plants in Russia with a capacity to process more than 260,000 barrels per day of crude—or 5% of Russia’s refining capacity.  

Ukraine has intensified attacks on Russia’s oil refineries, depots, and export terminals in an escalation of the war on energy infrastructure, which has also seen Russia targeting Ukraine’s gas producing facilities and gas and power distribution networks as temperatures drop. 

The key Russian oil port of Novorossiysk on the Black Sea suspended oil exports for a few days, following a major Ukrainian attack on the port early on Friday. 

Ukrainian forces have increasingly targeted Russian oil-refining, storage, and export infrastructure using drones and missiles. The campaign has gained intensity in recent months, with the Center for European Policy Analysis noting a shift in strategy “from smaller-scale strikes on storage tanks to targeting hard-to-replace refinery equipment, like cracking units, much of it western-made and subject to sanctions.”  

By Charles Kennedy for Oilprice.com 

Zeihan, admittedly prone to hyperbole, says shitty Russian oil turns to sludge quickly when it gets cold.  And winter is coming.  Shutting down a complex process and letting all those pipes set up must be a real pain.  Oh well sucks for you.

5 minutes ago, Bevo said:

High efficiency: Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots neutralized over 1,600 Russian targets

Kyiv • UNN

November 19 2025, 05:11 AM • 630 views

Since August 2024, Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots have intercepted over 1,300 aerial and destroyed over 300 ground targets of the occupiers. The F-16s account for over 1,300 intercepted aerial targets and the elimination of hundreds of units of enemy equipment.

High efficiency: Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots neutralized over 1,600 Russian targets

Since August 2024, Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots have intercepted over 1,300 aerial targets and hit more than 300 ground targets of the occupiers.

UNN reports with reference to the press service of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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For more than a year of operation in the Ukrainian sky, the crews of F-16 and Mirage-2000 fighters have demonstrated consistently high results in repelling enemy attacks.

The F-16 alone has accounted for over 1,300 intercepted aerial targets! In particular, during today's attack, pilots intercepted and shot down at least 10 enemy cruise missiles. F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots

- stated in the message of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Ukrainian F-16 pilots hit more than 300 ground targets. Hundreds of units of enemy equipment, command posts, UAV control points, ammunition depots, and enemy logistics were eliminated.

A predator in its natural environment.

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3 hours ago, Bevo said:

High efficiency: Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots neutralized over 1,600 Russian targets

Kyiv • UNN

November 19 2025, 05:11 AM • 630 views

Since August 2024, Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots have intercepted over 1,300 aerial and destroyed over 300 ground targets of the occupiers. The F-16s account for over 1,300 intercepted aerial targets and the elimination of hundreds of units of enemy equipment.

High efficiency: Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots neutralized over 1,600 Russian targets

Since August 2024, Ukrainian F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots have intercepted over 1,300 aerial targets and hit more than 300 ground targets of the occupiers.

UNN reports with reference to the press service of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Details

For more than a year of operation in the Ukrainian sky, the crews of F-16 and Mirage-2000 fighters have demonstrated consistently high results in repelling enemy attacks.

The F-16 alone has accounted for over 1,300 intercepted aerial targets! In particular, during today's attack, pilots intercepted and shot down at least 10 enemy cruise missiles. F-16 and Mirage-2000 pilots

- stated in the message of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Ukrainian F-16 pilots hit more than 300 ground targets. Hundreds of units of enemy equipment, command posts, UAV control points, ammunition depots, and enemy logistics were eliminated.

Link?

 

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13 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

No, we all get it. Do you happen to write about UT football using the name Scipio?

I didn't mean the people here. I meant the ones calling for a ceasefire or think the Ukraine should give up land. Guess I should of said "They don't get it."

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

"Art of the Deal" my ass.  TACO.

nothing to see here, just the United States through its president, giving up on the concept of democracy in exchange for a willingness to let a murderous, rapist, aggressive country invade a neighbor to steal kids and kill their civilians.

Obviously, Trump must reward them for that behavior if he wants to get a peace prize.

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6 hours ago, bolverk said:

He's got a bad habit of not linking articles.

A quick Google search of the headline led this: https://unn.ua/en/news/high-efficiency-ukrainian-f-16-and-mirage-2000-pilots-neutralized-over-1600-russian-targets

Yeah, I usually link long articles or at least include the author. Short ones, it depends, but I probably don’t provide the link because I don’t think people really care. 

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14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

What Trump doesn’t get is that Europe is not going to let Ukraine fail.  


I hope this is true. And I hope the US doesn’t try to interfere. You know Russia is trying to splinter European support. My fear is that we will do it better than Russia ever could. Supporting Slovakia and Hungary while sanctioning our long-standing allies could do it.

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22 minutes ago, Bevo said:


I hope this is true. And I hope the US doesn’t try to interfere. You know Russia is trying to splinter European support. My fear is that we will do it better than Russia ever could. Supporting Slovakia and Hungary while sanctioning our long-standing allies could do it.

Well the Slovakian people are rising up and making it clear that they are on the side of Europe and not Russia.  And Hungary is isolating itself, which is pissing off the people - it will hurt them economically and socially.

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My understanding of hashed US-Russian peace plan. As ugly as you’d expect:

— Ukr army 2.5 x reduction. Only Ukr army. Note: not 2x as speculated

— No foreign troops in Ukraine

— No foreign diplomatic planes in Ukraine

— Ban on long range weapons that can reach St. Petersburg, Moscow

— Ceding territory

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This has to be a joke, especially when Trump is out there talking about sanctioning any and all countries doing business with Russia.

 

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10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

My understanding of hashed US-Russian peace plan. As ugly as you’d expect:

— Ukr army 2.5 x reduction. Only Ukr army. Note: not 2x as speculated

— No foreign troops in Ukraine

— No foreign diplomatic planes in Ukraine

— Ban on long range weapons that can reach St. Petersburg, Moscow

— Ceding territory

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This has to be a joke, especially when Trump is out there talking about sanctioning any and all countries doing business with Russia.

 

TLDR:

"Roll over and expose your belly."

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If Europe ever really gets to the point where they think that the US abandonment of Ukraine is irreversible, then we will see the gloves come off when it comes to European support.  Ukraine will get whatever weapons that Europe can provide, and possibly even direct military support.

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9 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

If Europe ever really gets to the point where they think that the US abandonment of Ukraine is irreversible, then we will see the gloves come off when it comes to European support.  Ukraine will get whatever weapons that Europe can provide, and possibly even direct military support.

I want to believe this.  But in my gut, I feel like if the US backs out, Europe will back down. 

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

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Fuck yeah, Man.  One step closer to F16 on MIG fights.  God dammit already.  Generations of Americans paid tax dollars go to make a goddamn fighter jet to fight the Russians.  Lets.  Fucking.  GO.

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14 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I want to believe this.  But in my gut, I feel like if the US backs out, Europe will back down. 

I don't think so.  Sweden and Finland didn't get off the fence for that to happen. However, America as the "Arsenal of Democracy" and as leader of the free world is rapidly slipping away. 

We just have to remember that Ukraine doesn't have to win, they just have to not lose, and there's a distinction there - we see them hitting targets inside of Russia every day that drags Russia just a little bit closer to systemic failures (power, oil & gas, etc.) that they can't easily recover from.  Sure, Russia can burn 120,000 soldiers to get a shell of a town that used to have a population of 60,000, but that's not something they can repeat over and over, and no amount of dead and wounded soldiers will keep the lights on and the oil flowing. Without that hard cash, Iran and China aren't going to sell them the goods, and without power and heat, the Russian people will get really antsy.

And there's talk that Russia is burning through those soldiers over the past few months to achieve psychological victories to pressure Trump because they think his usefulness is coming to an end. Whether that's true or not is more for CR, but they've definitely ramped up pressure on the battlefield to achieve something at a helluva cost.

And they still haven't fully taken over Pokrovsk, which is wild.

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And there are protests springing up around Russia as everything goes to shit.   They know they can’t protest the war and they know they can’t protest Putin, but they can protest the lack of electricity and Internet and food and jobs and the VAT of 20% added to what they already pay in taxes. 

I think when Russians protest against taxes, everyone knows they are protesting against the war, because everyone knows why extra taxes were imposed.   

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I don't think so.  Sweden and Finland didn't get off the fence for that to happen. However, America as the "Arsenal of Democracy" and as leader of the free world is rapidly slipping away. 

We just have to remember that Ukraine doesn't have to win, they just have to not lose, and there's a distinction there - we see them hitting targets inside of Russia every day that drags Russia just a little bit closer to systemic failures (power, oil & gas, etc.) that they can't easily recover from.  Sure, Russia can burn 120,000 soldiers to get a shell of a town that used to have a population of 60,000, but that's not something they can repeat over and over, and no amount of dead and wounded soldiers will keep the lights on and the oil flowing. Without that hard cash, Iran and China aren't going to sell them the goods, and without power and heat, the Russian people will get really antsy.

And there's talk that Russia is burning through those soldiers over the past few months to achieve psychological victories to pressure Trump because they think his usefulness is coming to an end. Whether that's true or not is more for CR, but they've definitely ramped up pressure on the battlefield to achieve something at a helluva cost.

And they still haven't fully taken over Pokrovsk, which is wild.

This all makes logical sense.  

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But in my view, Europe pretty much always falls to squabbling with each other rather than circling the wagons.  I hope I'm wrong.

 

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India’s Reliance Industries has stopped importing Russian crude for its massive Jamnagar refinery, effective Nov 20. This comes ahead of U.S. and EU sanctions deadlines targeting Rosneft and Lukoil. From Dec 1, all product exports will come from non-Russian oil. Europe makes up 28% of Reliance’s export market.

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You were searching for some answers? - here you have it. From the UN security council just now:
Ukraine has officially received from the American side a draft plan. We outline the fundamental principles that matter to our people. We agree to work on the plan's provisions in a way that would bring about a just end to the war. In this context, allow me to make several critical points.
1-First, while Ukraine stands ready to engage in meaningful negotiations to end this war — including at the leaders’ level — our red lines are clear and unwavering. There will never be any recognition, formal or otherwise, of Ukrainian territory temporarily occupied by the Russian Federation as Russian. Our land is not for sale. Ukraine will not accept any limits on its right to self-defense or on the size and capabilities of our Armed Forces. Nor will we tolerate any infringement on our sovereignty, including our sovereign right to choose the alliances we want to join. Any genuine peace process must respect a fundamental principle: nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine, and nothing about Europe without Europe. And let me be equally clear: we will not reward the genocidal intent that underpins Russian aggression by undermining our identity, including our language.
2- Second, support for Ukraine is indispensable. Peace requires strengthened security and sustained financial assistance to Ukraine. Reinforcing Ukraine's defense capabilities is not an escalation — it is the only path to compelling Russia to engage constructively in international peace efforts. In this regard, we express profound gratitude to all partners and allies. This support is an investment in the rules-based international order and global peace.
3- Third, the Kremlin regime will not stop unless it is stopped through unyielding and concerted pressure. There is only one realistic path to ending this war: Russia must be compelled to retreat — economically, politically, and militarily.

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Exclusive: US threatens to cut intel, weapons to press Ukraine into peace deal, sources say | Reuters

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The United States has threatened to cut intelligence sharing and weapons supplies for Ukraine to press it into agreeing to the framework of a U.S.-brokered peace deal, two people familiar with the matter said.

The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that Kyiv was under greater pressure from Washington than during any previous peace discussions, and that the U.S. wanted Ukraine to sign a framework of the deal by next Thursday.

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The present time is the first time that I have a reasonable belief that Russia will be imploding before it can take down Ukraine in any meaningful way.

Russia is about to be so poor that the next leader might trade a return of all of the frozen Russian billions to leave Crimea and withdraw from Ukrainian territory it currently holds (including return of the stolen children).  They will desperately need that money to provide its people potatoes and a repair of utilities/refining/electrical grid.   Their destroyed refineries will take a while before they will be able to produce revenue again, hopefully with a  sanctions removal provision requiring that a portion of that Russian oil and gas revenue goes to rebuild Ukraine.

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Fire Point plans to deploy its FP-7 ballistic missile this year with mass production, the chief designer said. The FP-7 has 200 km range, 1,500 m/s speed and 150 kg warhead, with an FP-9 variant planned by mid-next year reaching 850 km, while Flamingo cruise missiles are already produced at three daily.

 

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Don't know Russian so not sure how accurate this is, but the phrasing in some stuff was odd

All 28 points of the peace plan were published online key points

1. Security and political status of Ukraine

  • - Confirmation of Ukraine’s sovereignty.
  • - Ukraine receives U.S. security guarantees, but with conditions.
  • - Ukraine enshrines non-alignment and renunciation of NATO membership in its Constitution; NATO confirms Ukraine will never join.
  • - The size of Ukraine’s Armed Forces is restricted.
  • - Ukraine remains a non-nuclear state.

2. Territorial issues

  • - Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk are recognized de facto as Russian.
  • - Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are “frozen” along the line of contact.
  • - Some territories become a demilitarized buffer zone under de facto Russian control.
  • - Both sides commit not to change borders by force. (Lmao!)

3. Military arrangements

  • - NATO does not station troops in Ukraine.
  • - NATO fighter jets are based in Poland.
  • - Security dialogue between the U.S., NATO, and Russia; creation of a U.S.–Russia working group.
  • - Russia legally commits to a policy of non-aggression toward Ukraine and Europe. (Aha aha, lol)

4. Economic block and Ukraine’s reconstruction

  • - The U.S. and Europe launch a major investment package for Ukraine’s recovery.
  • - $100 billion in frozen Russian assets go to rebuilding Ukraine; the U.S. takes 50% of the profits.
  • - Europe adds another $100 billion.
  • - Other frozen Russian assets are allocated to joint U.S.–Russia projects.
  • - Establishment of a Ukraine Development Fund, with investments in infrastructure, resources, and technology.

5. Russia in the global system

  • - Gradual lifting of sanctions.
  • - Russia’s return to the G8.
  • - Long-term U.S.–Russia economic cooperation.

6. Humanitarian issues

  • - “All-for-all” prisoner exchange, including civilians and children.
  • - Humanitarian programs and family reunification.
  • - Educational programs on tolerance.
  • - Rejection of “Nazi ideology” (as stated in the document).

7. Energy and special facilities

  • - Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant resumes operation under IAEA supervision; electricity split 50/50 between Ukraine and Russia.
  • - The U.S. helps restore Ukraine’s gas infrastructure.

8. Internal political processes in Ukraine

  • - Elections held 100 days after signing the agreement.
  • - Full amnesty for all participants in the war.

9. Implementation and oversight

  • - The agreement is legally binding.
  • - Oversight carried out by a “Peace Council” chaired by Donald Trump.
  • - Violations result in sanctions.
  • - Immediate ceasefire and withdrawal to agreed positions after signing.

As I said, this plan is stillborn.

Posted
Exclusive: US threatens to cut intel, weapons to press Ukraine into peace deal, sources say | Reuters
The United States has threatened to cut intelligence sharing and weapons supplies for Ukraine to press it into agreeing to the framework of a U.S.-brokered peace deal, two people familiar with the matter said.
The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that Kyiv was under greater pressure from Washington than during any previous peace discussions, and that the U.S. wanted Ukraine to sign a framework of the deal by next Thursday.
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The gottdam flippy floppy on this is enraging.

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