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    I think that it’s now safe to say that we Texans now live in a failed state.  30 years of GOP rule, setting our own standard, living the “Texas Dream,” which they’ve bragged about relentlessly…and let’s see where we are:

    A majority of the state in complete failure, unable to deliver the most BASIC of services (things that are called “utilities,” not “luxuries,” for a reason).  No power.  No water.  No means of clearing roads (that one, I can’t fault the state so much….but it wouldn’t be as big a crisis if people weren’t stuck in their homes with no power and water).  So citizens are stuck in their homes, some of them dying there. 

    Water resource planning?  After pretending for decades that a drought would never happen again, and not doing ANYTHING to develop resources in the state water plan (a document actually developed using science and mathematical projections), we had several locations, including actual cities, down to a few days of water supply.  We’ve finally gotten on our horse a bit, but it may be too late if the next drought comes anytime soon.  

    State rank in key categories:

    Education – 34

    Health Care - 37

    Infrastructure - 33

    Opportunity - 39

    Environment - 44

    Infrastructure - 33 

    In overall quality of life ranking by US News, we are now #38, down from #36 just two years ago.  At that rate, we’ll be in the bottom 3 within ten years.

    We are SUPER independent, and FUCK the feds….but we have requested federal disaster assistance more than any other state in the past decade or so.

    But hey, our economy is ranked #15!

    That’s right, we have a “roaring economy” and the “Texas Miracle!”  But we can’t deliver the basics for our citizens.  The economy is VERY efficient at funneling bazillions to the very few…..with little of it “trickling down” to most Texans.  Yeah, the people on this board generally do fine, but face the facts – we’re the top 10% or so.  We are educated, older, and fortunate.

    Our federal system allows for state-by-state experiments.  Texas is the poster child for near anarcho-capitalism and zero regulation or oversight.  We have tested that approach, for over a generation now (30 years of Republican rule).  That approach is a failure.  The evidence is undeniable, and overwhelming.  It doesn’t matter how many River Oaks millionaires you produce if the rest of your people are dying in their homes.  Shit, some of those River Oaks millionaires might be freezing to death today, too.

    The kids of a middle class family can hardly afford to go to a good state school.  Their prospects for employment are mediocre.  Their prospects of suffering crippling medical debt at some point are significant.  Their chances of not having basic utilities needed for life safety at some point – all but certain.  Their chances of becoming ill or dying from a pollution-caused illness are material.

    What’s the result?  Our leaders have sold Texas as a paradise – move here!  Bring your business here!  And some businesses have done so, adding opportunity…..but providing little to no tax support for the infrastructure we all depend on.  To the contrary, over the past few years, I know more and more people – educated people, people who can do their jobs elsewhere, who are looking to bail on this state.  It’s people with young kids, who want them to grow up in a better place.  It’s people in their working years, who simply want a better path.  It’s retirees, who want a safe and secure place to live.

    We have consumed our seed stock.  We have burned through our reserves.  We are now consuming ourselves.  The ability to pitch Texas as the land of opportunity is done.  Seeing what we have become, the tentative thought/plan my wife and I had of wrapping up our careers here and then getting the hell out of Dodge is becoming much more concrete.  My children are already unlikely to make their future in this state.  Now we are, too.

    But the response from the Republican leadership and their sycophants – “how are you gonna pay for it?  Taxes?  That’s socialism!  You want that stuff, you have to pay for it!”

    Fuck yes I do, and I’m okay with that.  I want groceries…so I have to pay HEB.  I want a car…so I have to pay Ford.  I want clothes…..so I have to pay Dillards.  I want my population educated….so I have to pay the school district.  I want electricity, with enough capacity to keep us running when we need it…..so I have to pay my bill, maybe with a capacity surcharge.  I want water to come out of the taps….so I have to pay for development of resources and maintenance of infrastructure.  I want roads….so I pay taxes to build and maintain them.  YES, I have to pay for all of those things, and “nothing is free” – no fucking shit.  So, let’s pay for it.  We have the #15 economy….we HAVE the funds in this state.  An economy with the flow of funds that ours has can produce and maintain all of those results.  But we have chosen a different path; funnel all the dollars to the top, and spend next to nothing for the public good.  We have privatized profit….we have socialized the costs.  And we are dying because of it.

    My fellow Texans are dying in their homes….and there’s nothing I can do about it today.  And I am enraged.

    I love Texas.  I am 6th generation here.  My ancestors have Texas historical markers on their graves.  We helped make this state, and this state helped make us.  It educated us (back when college was affordable).  But it’s time to face the fact – this state is a failure, and on its current path, with its current leadership and philosophy, it will only get worse.  This state has a terrible future, unless we dramatically change our path.   Chances of that happening?  0.0% -- because we’ll continue to vote for the guys who make our leadership priorities bathroom bills, and transgender sports, and requiring the national anthem be played at certain events.  Any bill that has been proposed to improve emergency preparedness of gov’t entities has been crushed by the Republicans controlling the lege….but we will definitely stick with those guys.  No taxes.  No government functionality.

    What we are seeing happening right now is our system working EXACTLY AS IT WAS DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO WORK.  And we will, I guarantee it, collectively decide to stick with that.  This state is in free-fall, and anyone with eyes can see it.  And anyone with a brain is starting to think of ways to make their life elsewhere.  It breaks my goddamned heart to see us commit collective suicide, but here we are.

     

     


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    'People are leaving Texas over rising costs, partisan politics, and a sense of disenchantment'

    Nothing super earth-shattering in here. I just found it interesting.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/people-are-leaving-texas-over-rising-costs-partisan-politics-and-a-sense-of-disenchantment/ar-AA1kxJmx

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    • Texas has experienced a surge in popularity during the pandemic that drove home prices up 30%.
    • Meanwhile the political freedom some sought in the state has encouraged others to leave.
    • Have you left or do you plan to leave Texas? Business Insider wants to hear from you.
    • While some homebuyers seek the American dream in Texas, many are leaving the state to find it elsewhere.

    "Lifelong Texan here. I am definitely preparing an exit strategy," one anonymous user posted on a Reddit thread about leaving Texas. "From the heat to the stripping away of human rights, I'm just done."

    Another poster struck a similar chord. "I've been in Texas most of my life, and my husband and I were always planning on retiring here (in about 5 years from now)," they wrote. "But between this intense heat, crazy politics, and cost of living, we've decided to leave for good and head to Knoxville."

    While people have been moving into the Lone Star state to take advantage of its relatively affordable real-estate market, political atmosphere, and work opportunities, some of those same qualities are driving others out. Over 494,000 people left Texas between 2021 and 2022 (though the state gained a net population of 174,261.) It's a trend that could intensify as housing costs surge and the state's political landscape becomes more polarized.

     

    Housing costs have some looking for affordability elsewhere

    Texas experienced a surge in popularity during the pandemic that pushed home prices up 30% since 2019, according to data from Realtor.com. At the same, residents are also grappling with property taxes that are among the highest in the country.

    Californians seeking more affordable homes made the Golden-to-Lone-Star-state moving route the most popular in the country between 2021 and 2022, with almost 108,000 people making the move. But there's a one big downside.

    "The property tax percentage rate is higher," Marie Bailey, a Texas-based realtor who moved from El Segundo, California, to Prosper, Texas, in 2017, previously told Business Insider. "Every time a prospective client calls me, it's one of the first things I talk about."

    Marie Bailey and her family moved to Prosper, Texas in 2017, where she is now a realtor helping other Californians make the move to The Lone Star State. Courtesy of Marie Bailey© Courtesy of Marie Bailey

    As Texas starts to lose its edge as an inexpensive and affordable housing choice, many locals are shifting their focus to the Midwest.

    For Texans, "the Midwest has emerged as popular recently because it is just by and large the most affordable region," Hannah Jones, Realtor.com's economic research analyst, told Business Insider in October. "We're seeing this trend of buyers looking for affordability really explode."

     

    The political freedom many moved to the state for is driving others away

    For many Americans, politics are just as important as housing affordability when choosing a place to live.

    According to a 2022 survey by mortgage marketplace LendingTree involving 1,545 participants, 39% of respondents said they've relocated or might consider moving to a different state if their political views didn't align with the majority.

    Jackie Burse, a self-identified Conservative, is one of the many Californians who have sought out Texas for its political environment. Burse told Business Insider in September that it played a crucial role in her decision to relocate to Texas in 2021.

    Jackie Burse grabbing a drink. Courtesy of Jackie Burse© Courtesy of Jackie Burse

    In Texas there is "room for people to believe what they want without being shamed," Burse said, unlike in California.

    Contrary to Burse, Bob McCranie, a Dallas-based real-estate broker who created a real-estate service that helps LGBTQ+ people in Texas sell their homes and get connected with agents in different parts of the country and abroad, told KXAN News in July that the state's lack of inclusivity has created an unwelcoming environment.

    "What we all want as human beings is to feel a level of safety, and if your state is making you feel unsafe, there's no reason to stay," McCranie said. "I can't believe somebody could look at, let's say, California or New York versus Texas and Florida and say that LGBTQ people feel more welcome in Florida and Texas."

     

    Texas hasn't lived up to its promises for some

    Some recent transplants have also grown disenchanted with the state.

    In Austin, some tech workers who flocked to the city during the pandemic just can't seem to get out fast enough.

    Nick Thomas, 30, moved to Austin from downtown Los Angeles in January 2021 and told Business Insider in August he hoped to move back to California soon. He called Austin is a "watered-down" version of places he's previously lived like Los Angeles and San Francisco.

    "People say it's a tech scene just because that's what they were told, but when you get to it, there's no evidence for it," Thomas said. "I think it was just oversold."

    Jules Rogers, a reporter who relocated from Portland, Oregon, to Houston in 2018 for a position at a local newspaper, left Texas less than two years after moving to the city.

    Jules Rogers, left, in Texas. Courtesy of Jules Rogers© Courtesy of Jules Rogers

    Though she was earning a 20% higher income and living in a more spacious apartment, she said that her quality of life hadn't improved.

    "I tried to tell myself I just needed to give it a chance, settle in, and get used to Houston, but I missed the trees, the air, the mountains, the ocean, the vibes, and the culture of the Pacific Northwest," Rogers previously wrote on Business Insider.

    She has since returned to Portland where she said she feels "much happier now back at home."

     

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    16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

    Jules Rogers, a reporter who relocated from Portland, Oregon, to Houston in 2018 for a position at a local newspaper, left Texas less than two years after moving to the city.

    Jules Rogers, left, in Texas. Courtesy of Jules Rogers© Courtesy of Jules Rogers

    Though she was earning a 20% higher income and living in a more spacious apartment, she said that her quality of life hadn't improved.

    "I tried to tell myself I just needed to give it a chance, settle in, and get used to Houston, but I missed the trees, the air, the mountains, the ocean, the vibes, and the culture of the Pacific Northwest," Rogers previously wrote on Business Insider.

    Color me shocked...

    How it started:

    2 Days in Portland, Oregon: A Delicious and Fun-Filled Itinerary -  WanderWisdom

    How its going:

    Dizzying photo of world's widest freeway sparks mass debate online: 'There  is traffic, even with all those lanes'

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    30 minutes ago, texasdago said:

    Color me shocked...

    How it started:

    2 Days in Portland, Oregon: A Delicious and Fun-Filled Itinerary -  WanderWisdom

    How its going:

    Dizzying photo of world's widest freeway sparks mass debate online: 'There  is traffic, even with all those lanes'

    Yep.  If you value nature, specifically mountains and cool temperatures, Texas is just not for you.

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    16 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

    let me sum up the thoughts of those leaving:

    1. It’s hot
    2. It’s hot
    3. It’s hot
    4. Like really really hot
    5. Plus other stuff

    That's not the order of reasons I want out at all. Albeit Hot is on the list. 

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    Random thought:  I wonder how much campaign money Texas Republicans will lose due to A&M BMDs diverting 10s of millions of dollars to the athletic program. It would be so awesome if Jimbo's firing helps rid our state of Ted Cruz. 

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    1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

    And that's living in a great food/culture city like Houston. I meet transplants here in Waco all the time, poor bastards are actually choosing to move here.

    If you go around with the assumption that dark hidden forces are malevolently controlling everything, Waco can be pretty interesting.

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    1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

    And that's living in a great food/culture city like Houston. I meet transplants here in Waco all the time, poor bastards are actually choosing to move here.

    Or the #8 city in the US for new incoming Millennials sunny Killeen.   

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    20 minutes ago, texasdago said:

    Or the #8 city in the US for new incoming Millennials sunny Killeen.   

    Well at least that's usually Uncle Sam telling you that you're Bell County material. 

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    26 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

    Well at least that's usually Uncle Sam telling you that you're Bell County material. 

    What's so funny is that as the news was talking about all these millennials in Killeen, the obvious next comment is... hmmm... could that be due to some large employer in the area?  Never made the connection.

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    Nah, it's young people rejecting the Biden failed America and coming to conservative areas for more freedoms.  (Checks notes)  Or coming to a place to be told what to do and when to do it for several years.  either way, Hunter's laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

    On the right wing, “political freedom” equals “nobody tells me what an asshole I am when I say my weird, awful political views out loud.” 

    Let me make that a bit more accurate:

    ".... when I repeatedly state my fascist beliefs and fact-free religious fanaticism out loud."

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    7 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

    810k children have lost Medicaid coverage in Texas this year.

     

    This Christmas season, Texas Republicans will tune into the broadcast of It’s a Wonderful Life to root for Mr. Potter.

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    On 4/1/2023 at 6:10 AM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

    You can get a box of 24 tampons throughout Europe for 2-3 Euros.  In the US, the same box is 7-8 USD.  It's fucking bullshit.

    Ok I’m going to regret asking this, but the average woman’s period takes up 12 tampons? So a 5 dollar difference every two months is “fucking bullshit”? Or 30 dollars per annum. Of all the things to complain about  

     

     

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    23 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

    Once again, fuck you Republicans. Fuck you @fattyflattie. Fuck you @Incredulity. Fuck you @DalTxHornFan.  (Oh, and congratulations on standing out as Surly Republicans, too, in an era where aligning with Republican is akin to aligning with fascists. Fuck you).

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

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    Texas is the state with the fewest personal freedoms, according to Newsweek.

     

    https://www.newsweek.com/texas-least-free-state-personal-freedom-index-1846236#:~:text=Texas was found to be,freedoms at the state level.

    Just now, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

    One side wants to end America as we know it.  And it's not the Democrats.  Lots of folks in prison for sedition from J6.

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    56 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

    Ok I’m going to regret asking this, but the average woman’s period takes up 12 tampons? So a 5 dollar difference every two months is “fucking bullshit”? Or 30 dollars per annum. Of all the things to complain about  

     

     

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    Fuck you, too.

    People who like to make money care. And folks who bloviate about economic principles care.

    This story ought be seen as an opportunity for investors to make money selling tampons, with a market advantage of a significantly lower price.. People care about that.  This story ought be paired with the story about the cost of insulin. There are ways to produce insulin that would meet the market need of a lower price.

    There’s money to be made. The fact no one is filling these niches call the tropes we are fed into question.

    Edited to add that US productions costs are $9 per hour lower, for labor, than Europe’s.

    https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/mar/wk5/art01.htm

     

    Also adding my wife’s comment that there are women, and young women, who go without because of the expense. Again, fuck you.

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    10 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

    You have such a pretty finger, Penelope.  It would be way cool if you ever debated on the merits.  How long should the pandemic measures continue?

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    11 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

    So, you like denying children money, that you’ve already spent, for their healthcare? Again, fuck you.

    This NPR article is dated, but the dynamic still applies. If you want me to find a more current source for the same claim, answer my question.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwir3f_ry-WCAxVplGoFHSiVB_YQFnoECBQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2F2015%2F05%2F29%2F410470081%2Ftexas-didn-t-expand-medicaid-advocates-say-money-is-being-left-on-the-table&usg=AOvVaw2YcSseqnzb5T3P2lGvUIFc&opi=89978449

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    41 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

    Ok I’m going to regret asking this, but the average woman’s period takes up 12 tampons? So a 5 dollar difference every two months is “fucking bullshit”? Or 30 dollars per annum. Of all the things to complain about  

     

     

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    It is called a tax on being a woman.  Just like how health care for women is WAY behind that for men.  But yeah, gotta make those little blue penis pills.  

    Gotta love the misogyny some of the posters on this board flout on a regular basis.  Pretty disgusting really.

    9 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    You have such a pretty finger, Penelope.  It would be way cool if you ever debated on the merits.  How long should the pandemic measures continue?

    Why debate complete pieces of shit like yourself?  There is zero fucking point.

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    Thanks for not answering my question and lumping it in with an unrelated subject, Penelope.

    What is funny is that this latest surge in the thread is based upon a so-called "Business Insider" piece that hangs its hat upon an unsourced Reddit comment!

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    1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

    810k children have lost Medicaid coverage in Texas this year.

     

    Paywall, so tweet is basically worthless, but was there a reason other than the PHE expiration given in the article?

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    2 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks for not answering my question and lumping it in with an unrelated subject, Penelope.

    What is funny is that this latest surge in the thread is based upon a so-called "Business Insider" piece that hangs its hat upon an unsourced Reddit comment!

    Thanks for not responding about the sedition, DalTxHornFan.  I suspect you're one of those Republicans who tries to pretend that never happened, right?  Or maybe it wasn't really that bad?  Or are you waiting for the FBI knock on your door wanting to know your whereabouts for that day?  They're still arresting people, you know.

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    1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

    Thanks for not responding about the sedition, DalTxHornFan.  I suspect you're one of those Republicans who tries to pretend that never happened, right?  Or maybe it wasn't really that bad?  Or are you waiting for the FBI knock on your door wanting to know your whereabouts for that day?  They're still arresting people, you know.

    Thank you for diversion from the actual recent subject of this thread:

    1. Are people really leaving Texas in droves?

    2. Is it bad that the pandemic era rules are returning to the pre-pandemic rules after the pandemic is over?

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    1 minute ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thank you for diversion from the actual recent subject of this thread:

    1. Are people really leaving Texas in droves?

    2. Is it bad that the pandemic era rules are returning to the pre-pandemic rules after the pandemic is over?

    You still didn't answer.

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    3 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    I never brought up your diversion about sedition.  Not relevant to this thread.

    Thank you, Penelope.  Your extended middle finger always adds so much to our reasoned discourse on this forum.  It would be way cool if you would participate somehow.

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    1 minute ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    I don't think so.  Not a guest.  I've been around for at least the last two boards.  That said, that isn't a bad thing for somebody to say.

    Thank you so much, Penelope!

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    This is @DalTxHornFan@DalTxHornFan asks for honest discourse and debate, but has ZERO intention of that.  Rather, he is a Trump/GQP fan boy who doesn't understand why we just neg and move on.  Your shit is old and tired just like you are.  TexAgs is much more your speed.  Go post there.

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    Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

    House is under contract. Should be done with all ties to Texas in 4 weeks. 
     

    this time, will not entertain returning. 

    Congrats.  

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    1 hour ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

    Well I see this has been addressed earlier, in perhaps a different way. This board loves them some Twitter propaganda. 

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    1 hour ago, DalTxHornFan said:

    Thanks.  So it is an unspeakable tragedy when an emergency pandemic era policy ends (only after the pandemic is over) and the pre-pandemic policies are re-instituted? 

    "Emergency" measures forever!  Never let a good crisis go to waste -- amirite?

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    couple things here.  A per annum increase in tampon costs of $30 is not worthy of a national debate, granted.  But it's a leading indicator of the higher costs past along to women in the form of hygiene products to Rx drugs.  Kinda like how we erroneously pin economic indicators on a President like Automobile Fuel prices.  We all know that oil & gas are global commodities traded on open markets which are Adam Smith designed so that no one person can control the prices.  So just like tampons are about much more than just the cost of the box, so too is are global energy markets about much more than Biden or Trump.  

    Second-most women use way more than 12 in a cycle.  There's heavy days, there's days where you drop one in the toilet or it falls out of your purse.  There's light days at the start, and days at the end when ovulation is taking over and the wife is horny as hell and they get gooey wet just from a backrub so they gotta use a new one just minutes after sex.  You'd know if you ever spent a day in your life /pacino.  There's pool time, there's changing for an evening event time.  There's pre-premenopausal time where they need to change several times a day because it's unpredictable flow.  Then there's "I'm having my period but I'll blow you" but then things get outta hand and you end up fucking and she needs yet another one she didn't count on.  

    Between no pussy getting Abbott and Dan Patrick probably using more tampons per month than all the female posters on this site combined, we are failing women at every turn in Texas.  And the worst part is, millions of Texas women are going with it because reasons...

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    9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

    Well I see this has been addressed earlier, in perhaps a different way. This board loves them some Twitter propaganda. 

    We see your dishonesty in framing the Medicare spending by the Texas government debate, and know you are an ass clown.

    Edited to add: who masturbates to Tiktok

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    3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

    couple things here.  A per annum increase in tampon costs of $30 is not worthy of a national debate, granted.  But it's a leading indicator of the higher costs past along to women in the form of hygiene products to Rx drugs.  Kinda like how we erroneously pin economic indicators on a President like Automobile Fuel prices.  We all know that oil & gas are global commodities traded on open markets which are Adam Smith designed so that no one person can control the prices.  So just like tampons are about much more than just the cost of the box, so too is are global energy markets about much more than Biden or Trump.  

    Second-most women use way more than 12 in a cycle.  There's heavy days, there's days where you drop one in the toilet or it falls out of your purse.  There's light days at the start, and days at the end when ovulation is taking over and the wife is horny as hell and they get gooey wet just from a backrub so they gotta use a new one just minutes after sex.  You'd know if you ever spent a day in your life /pacino.  There's pool time, there's changing for an evening event time.  There's pre-premenopausal time where they need to change several times a day because it's unpredictable flow.  Then there's "I'm having my period but I'll blow you" but then things get outta hand and you end up fucking and she needs yet another one she didn't count on.  

    Between no pussy getting Abbott and Dan Patrick probably using more tampons per month than all the female posters on this site combined, we are failing women at every turn in Texas.  And the worst part is, millions of Texas women are going with it because reasons...

    This right fucking here.  This is the point.  

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    16 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

    This is @DalTxHornFan@DalTxHornFan asks for honest discourse and debate, but has ZERO intention of that.  Rather, he is a Trump/GQP fan boy who doesn't understand why we just neg and move on.  Your shit is old and tired just like you are.  TexAgs is much more your speed.  Go post there.

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    Thank you, Penelope, for letting the board know that I am polite and respectful to other Surlyites that I may disagree with in my (supposedly/anticipated/expected) private conversations.

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    If as Jamie Dimon suggests that Texas is no longer a business friendly state, then what the hell is it, since it has a well earned reputation of being anti consumer?

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