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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Don't you dare drag me and my misfit maidens into this abomination of a thread.

I was just defending your honor, man. I'm not going to allow some schlub on the internet with no receipts claim to be the broken woman fixer. 

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5 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Quinn recently said in an interview that he thought his game was better suited for the NFL than college. If he means a clean pocket most of the times and no need to scramble for yards, I guess that makes sense. 

He’s got a game best suited for 7 on 7 drills.

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

feel free to counter it.

oh, and when i saw you’d quoted me, i said, “of course thatguy somehow has a problem with the least controversial take ive ever given. can’t wait to see what he has to say about it.” turns out- not much.

I’ll add my two cents.  Trust me when I say my response is more to keep treaty oak on my side rather than thatguy.

Obviously the NFL is not an easier game, but success is measured a bit differently.  The Dolphins fans to a point would be satisfied with year over year playoff appearances and a win here or there.

However, what thatguy suggested in regards to Quinn and 5 wides is really not an option at the NFL level, at least not as a base offense.  I would say the series of repetitions he’s had to date with heavy play action with two wides and a tight or two gives a better building block than what Gabriel has done to date for example.  Maybe Dart, award, Shedeur too.

He may not be a guy to carry his team.  He may not be one to win shootouts.  While the defenses may be better, the craziness and variations are less chaotic from week to week.  There aIRR opportunities for success staying within the framework and getting Hill and Waddle the ball.

There isn’t pressure to win every week to the same extent.  Expectations have been reset.  He only has to study the playbook and the defense.

He is ready for challenge.  Maybe.  We will see.

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

feel free to counter it.

oh, and when i saw you’d quoted me, i said, “of course thatguy somehow has a problem with the least controversial take ive ever given. can’t wait to see what he has to say about it.” turns out- not much.

Phil Simms, Tom Brady, Brad Johnson, Matt Cassell, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers, Rich Gannon, Dave Krieg, Kurt Warner, and Peyton Manning to name a few.

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1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

She ain't no Farrah, but she is a hot UT alumn blonde

She's a sweetheart.  I got to know her circa 1994 when I was recording her boyfriend Sims Ellison's band Pariah.  She hung out all the time, and was just getting going in her acting career.  Goofy but really sweet.

 

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

She ain't no Farrah, but she is a hot UT alumn blonde

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She tried to pick me up once (in LA) and I blew it by talking about everybody in Dobie being Jewish (like her when she was there, and my then roommate), totally awkward.

Ragrats.

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50 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

She tried to pick me up once (in LA) and I blew it by talking about everybody in Dobie being Jewish (like her when she was there, and my then roommate), totally awkward.

Ragrats.

I mean, at the time, Dobie was like the Jewish Student Center of campus, same way as how the PCL was the Predominantly Chinese Library.

It was a thing. Then.

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7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, at the time, Dobie was like the Jewish Student Center of campus, same way as how the PCL was the Predominantly Chinese Library.

It was a thing. Then.

Totally, I just clammed up after I said it, shocked by the situation, which made it sound vaguely anti-semitic, and then she went okaaay and got up and walked away, lol.

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3 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Totally, I just clammed up after I said it, shocked by the situation, which made it sound vaguely anti-semitic, and then she went okaaay and got up and walked away, lol.

Man, if a nickel shot out of my ass for every time I fucked up an obvious opportunity with a chick... I'd have myself a bagful of shit-coated nickels.

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2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

She ain't no Farrah, but she is a hot UT alumn blonde

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I can’t look at her without thinking of the time that dumbfuck Tim Brando thought her “who am I?” silhouette was a guy named Chris Mohr. I wish I had the link to the video to give us all a good laugh. 

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17 hours ago, Had Enough said:

I’ll add my two cents.  Trust me when I say my response is more to keep treaty oak on my side rather than thatguy.

Obviously the NFL is not an easier game, but success is measured a bit differently.  The Dolphins fans to a point would be satisfied with year over year playoff appearances and a win here or there.

However, what thatguy suggested in regards to Quinn and 5 wides is really not an option at the NFL level, at least not as a base offense.  I would say the series of repetitions he’s had to date with heavy play action with two wides and a tight or two gives a better building block than what Gabriel has done to date for example.  Maybe Dart, award, Shedeur too.

He may not be a guy to carry his team.  He may not be one to win shootouts.  While the defenses may be better, the craziness and variations are less chaotic from week to week.  There aIRR opportunities for success staying within the framework and getting Hill and Waddle the ball.

There isn’t pressure to win every week to the same extent.  Expectations have been reset.  He only has to study the playbook and the defense.

He is ready for challenge.  Maybe.  We will see.

Ewers always seemed to play better when he had more time to prep. I know everyone plays better with prep time, but it seemed particularly important to Ewers. I'm hoping that as a backup QB in the NFL he'll have the time he needs and will be better set up for success. 

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1 minute ago, Park Gothic said:

Ewers always seemed to play better when he had more time to prep. I know everyone plays better with prep time, but it seemed particularly important to Ewers. I'm hoping that as a backup QB in the NFL he'll have the time he needs and will be better set up for success. 

That is all well and good and works out for a game or two, then what happens? It's back to the means

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i think that was more due to sark having more prep time than it was quinn. same as how quinn always looked his best when sark’s game script was in play. it would be very interesting to see quinn’s splits from when the game script was in play vs after. QE’s biggest struggles always happened as the game went on and we got further and further away from the script.

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On 5/14/2025 at 3:23 PM, immamac said:

I won't stand for the Sam Ehlinger blasphemy. Sam was universally loved except for some brain broken idiots who just hate him for no reason. He was an OU CCG game away from making the CFP in 2018 and there's a real chance they win the whole thing if they go. They absolutely fucking murdered Georgia. 

Sam actually played for a dogshit team with a dogshit coach and still came out with the "decent" reviews because he way overperformed and is still on a roster now (Denver). He doesn't suck and has outlasted a lot of other people who were drafted and are just not on rosters. 

I love Sam to death. But if they beat OU in CCG they still don’t make the playoff as a 3 loss team. 

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13 minutes ago, immamac said:

And derka thinks sam is a retard. 

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

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2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 

Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 

Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, immamac said:

And derka thinks sam is a retard. 

lol i like him a lot more than most people realize, i just felt like most here overrated him because he was from westlake and inherently likable.

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38 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

FWIW Derka absolutely hated Sam. Well maybe not hate but he definitely didn’t like Sam. It was a huge debate years ago

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 

Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 

Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 

 

 

Make no mistake I was early on Sark being a solid coach. My point is the revisionist history. Same thing with Sam. He played his ass off vs LSU, but people forget those ugly games. 2019 OU, TCU, and Baylor come to mind. All the years Sark has been here we have had a history of taking our foot off the gas pedal once we got a lead. This was just as much a problem before Quinn as it was during his time here.

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

FWIW Derka absolutely hated Sam. Well maybe not hate but he definitely didn’t like Sam. It was a huge debate years ago

FWIW it's always a huge debate.

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Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 
Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 
Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 
 
 

Hell yeah what an awesome loss
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2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

Did someone say “Seven-win phteven”?IMG_7624.jpeg.7b9c08650c9a9f94947f7e61012f6617.jpeg

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re: sam-

when he was still in HS and committed to Texas i went to the recruiting board and posted that, imo, sam was good at everything but great at nothing, that he wasn’t good enough to qb a title winning team, and that, again, imo, he’d never pass beuchele on the depth chart, and that i foresaw him transferring before he ever got the starting job. as someone who’d never previously visited the recruiting forum, i was wildly unaware of the hornets nest i had just walked into. from that point forward, a metric shit ton of westlake/Texas fans swore up and down that i hated sam ehlinger, and thus made me the target of their indefatigable ire.

after sam won the starting job, the vitriol was flying at me from every direction. people just spiking the ball in my face left and right. fair enough. but me being me (and i stand by this to this day), i still maintained that, “he’s not as good as y’all think he is.” and he wasn’t. two offseasons in a row there was heisman talk, and when i scoffed, you guessed it-more vitriol.

then, his senior year, i said that sam would never lock down an nfl starting qb job, which again, made a lot of people react hysterically, as if their child had just been shot or something equally tragic. the bombastic and emotional reactions to my takes on sam never accurately reflected anything that i said or felt about him, but good luck convincing the hive mind otherwise.

that’s just the way it is: 90% of the “derka’d” threads on this site take place in this forum (a place i hardly visit), and 100% of those “derka’d” threads involve people becoming incensed because i say and feel, “darling qb ‘x’ isn’t as good as y’all think he is.” and, ftr, 100% of the time i’ve been right. same with shaka, GoT, ted lasso, rick and morty, etc. you name it. when people here like something, they by and large cannot handle a dissenting opinion. anyone who doesn’t parrot the party line “hates” the player, the coach, the tv show, etc. this feeling is pervasive throughout this site.

in conclusion: i’ve always liked sam; i will always root for him; people here are by and large insanely blinded through burnt orange tinted glasses, and they handle opposing opinions as well as chris farley handles being lied to about the coffee he’s drinking. in never going to back down when the crowd hates my opinion, and the crowd is going to hate every dissenting opinion i have. the cycle will repeat. i am at peace with this. 

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On 5/14/2025 at 8:39 PM, Derka said:

also, as i said in that very post, it’s impossible to give QE the benefit of the doubt considering his comically terrible footwork and consistently inaccurate throws. but don’t let that stop you from fellating the most underachieving qb we’ve ever had while patting yourself on the back for doing so. 

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

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3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

Given his 1.000 ranking, draft position and such Quinn is definitely a bigger under achiever than him. Quinn is closer to Simms and Applewhite than he is Colt or Vince 

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17 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

yeah, he’s up there, but at his best he was so much better than QE ever was. go back and watch that A&M game Roy’s freshman year. Simms looked like the biggest lock for no.1 overall pick ever in that game. big, strong, accurate, *huge* arm, just firing missiles all over the field. he also no doubt had a toughness about him that QE just doesn’t have. 

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Given his 1.000 ranking, draft position and such Quinn is definitely a bigger under achiever than him. Quinn is closer to Simms and Applewhite than he is Colt or Vince 

Simms coming here was a big deal, he wasnt some unknown. I think he won some national HS player of the year awards. In three appearances against OU, he had 0Td's and 8 Ints. Thats as bad as it gets for a Texas QB. I cant look past that dogshit. And then there was Colorado....

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chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

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6 hours ago, Blotto said:

Simms coming here was a big deal, he wasnt some unknown. I think he won some national HS player of the year awards. In three appearances against OU, he had 0Td's and 8 Ints. Thats as bad as it gets for a Texas QB. I cant look past that dogshit. And then there was Colorado....

I’m sure Simms would have been 2-1 or 3-0 vs the dog shit OU teams Quinn had the luxury of playing. 

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Be fair... Sark came in with a "Seven wins and Drunk" rep, a coupla Saban years and a recommendation from the GOAT.

Like (I suspect) a lot of the rest of us, I have a certain amount of life experience dealing with Recovering Alcoholics - some of them are, but some are not, actually recovering.

Early Sark did himself no favors in Year One, starting afire and flaming out in a six-consecutive-loss disaster. That performance absolutely deserved a label of Six Loss Steve, along with suspicions of Not Recovering.

These last two seasons have seen us - well, Sark -with a good, but not transcendent, Quarterback, a much improved Defense, and a team needing only a little more running game to have been repeat national champions. Either a QB with more ability as a runner or a Bijan-alike prolly woulda given us that bit of boost.

Good work, Sark.

And Thank You, Quinn.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Derka said:

chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

Chris Simms dominated?  That was the Roy Williams show that day…

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8 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Chris Simms dominated?  That was the Roy Williams show that day…

Yeah, I was definitely team Simms in the Simms V Applewhite debate, but on that day Roy did most of the heavy lifting.  He scored on an end around, turned some very short receptions into tens of yards after the catch, and in general showed why he might (still) be the greatest receiver in Texas history.  We also scored on a fumble recovery.

And, that was hardly a great LSU team.  Good, not great.  They wouldn't have sniffed even a 12-team playoff.

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Simms and Applewhite are equally mid QBs but for different reasons. Quinn is closer to those guys than he is Vince or Colt. 

Yeah I think if I'm ranking Texas QBs, Quinn is in that group along with James Brown. I suppose Ehlinger but I probably slot him higher. 

It's tough because they all had their ups and downs, great moments and horrific ones, played for different coaches, different offenses, etc.

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