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11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I think we're getting somewhere now with a Simms vs. Ewers debate. Continue. 

Believe me, I get the snark.  That said, I'm up for the debate, because well, I'm up and waiting on family. 

The idea that Ewers "literally cannot make those throws" is ridiculous.  Did their styles look different?  Sure.  Simms threw flat bullets, Ewers threw lofted passes to various degrees that were often easier to catch.  The implication is that Ewers can't throw those 15-30 yard downfield passes, and it's simply not true.  One can easily find dozens of examples in just 2024 alone.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

“god forbid”, give me a break. the two aren’t even close. simms choked in some big games, with plenty of help from mack and gdgd, but on a week to week/overall basis it’s truly not close. size, strength, accuracy, the ability to fire the ball into tight windows, the ability to make progressions, and a general lack of abject fear of the pass rush- simms >>> quinn. it’s truly not close. you really think that chris simms, surrounded by the 2024 offense + coaching staff gets shit down by the likes of kentucky, arkansas, and asu? i don’t think so.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The idea that Ewers "literally cannot make those throws" is ridiculous.

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

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you’re quoting stats comparing different eras, different offenses, and wildly different supporting casts. i’m talking about what each qb was capable of and how he performed week to week. QE and Simms are nowhere near the same player. 

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

Next is QE played with crap teammates

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

Quinn Ewers was a far better runner than Colt McCoy.

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2 minutes ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

You should really go back and watch the 2003 cotton bowl.  Your memory isn’t as good as you think.  Simms in the first half went 3 and out twice.  Threw a fucking bullet at Brock Edwards on a routine dump off.  Missed an open corner route to BJ Johnson and threw a bullet behind Williams on a slant that Roy nearly housed.  It was a fucking awful pass by Simms.  You’ve got some real hate for Quinn.  Why is that?

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Quinn Ewers was a far better runner than Colt McCoy.

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holy shit, can you imagine QE playing in gdgd’s offense behind the 2009 o line? he would not have survived half the season.

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My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

I absolutely remember that game, and I saw it pretty much as you did.  I never felt like Simms let us down that day.

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19 minutes ago, Derka said:

holy shit, can you imagine QE playing in gdgd’s offense behind the 2009 o line? he would not have survived half the season.

I'm with you there.

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15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

they should have been caught, especially the pass to roy.

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Yes, this is a highlight reel, but I think it should put to rest the idea that Ewers CAN'T make most of the throws many other NFL caliber QBs make.  The better question in my mind is "why doesn't he make some of those throws more often?".  Like many, I think lingering injuries hampered him.

 

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chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

Correction. Roy Williams dominated that team.
Simms choked a Big 12 title and Quinn set a record…
You guys are mentally ill lol.

Let’s not act like the competition in those two games was even close though.
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I had forgotten the 0 TDs and 8 INTs deal with Simms and OU. Jesus.
Neither Simms nor Roy Williams scored a TD against OU. Take a bow, Greg Davis. 

Did they call that a fumble or pick 6 on the evil Roy Superman play? Thanks a lot Brett Robin.
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56 minutes ago, Derka said:

you’re quoting stats comparing different eras, different offenses, and wildly different supporting casts. i’m talking about what each qb was capable of and how he performed week to week. QE and Simms are nowhere near the same player. 

Lol. This dude has completely jumped the Shark!

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41 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Correction. Roy Williams dominated that team.
Let’s not act like the competition in those two games was even close though.

10-4 Oklahoma State was slightly worse than 10-3 Colorado.  Simms fuckstomped them once that season then had a nuclear meltdown.  Quinn set a record and won the title with a comparable talent advantage.

Oli Gordon is at least equal to Chris Brown.  Purify and Brown gives a slight edge.  Both teams had a few NFL defenders and trash QB’s.  It’s not the gulf that you think.

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1 hour ago, Fondren & Main said:

10-4 Oklahoma State was slightly worse than 10-3 Colorado.  Simms fuckstomped them once that season then had a nuclear meltdown.  Quinn set a record and won the title with a comparable talent advantage.

Oli Gordon is at least equal to Chris Brown.  Purify and Brown gives a slight edge.  Both teams had a few NFL defenders and trash QB’s.  It’s not the gulf that you think.

But then you see Ollie Gordon this year and I don’t think so. Had he built off that season then sure. 

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