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2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 

Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 

Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, immamac said:

And derka thinks sam is a retard. 

lol i like him a lot more than most people realize, i just felt like most here overrated him because he was from westlake and inherently likable.

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38 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

FWIW Derka absolutely hated Sam. Well maybe not hate but he definitely didn’t like Sam. It was a huge debate years ago

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 

Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 

Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 

 

 

Make no mistake I was early on Sark being a solid coach. My point is the revisionist history. Same thing with Sam. He played his ass off vs LSU, but people forget those ugly games. 2019 OU, TCU, and Baylor come to mind. All the years Sark has been here we have had a history of taking our foot off the gas pedal once we got a lead. This was just as much a problem before Quinn as it was during his time here.

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

FWIW Derka absolutely hated Sam. Well maybe not hate but he definitely didn’t like Sam. It was a huge debate years ago

FWIW it's always a huge debate.

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Sark has done an exceptional job at letting people around him within the program and in his network help him. I think when he takes over and does too much, that's when the wheels start to come off now. 
Quinn was a lot of things, but clutch wasn't really one of them. 
Sam legitimately took over a game against the future national championship LSU team to the degree that the ogre not only acknowledged it but praised Sam. 
 
 

Hell yeah what an awesome loss
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1 minute ago, Drifterwood said:


Hell yeah what an awesome loss

That loss sucked bad and kinda derailed the season. It wasn't Sam who fucked it though. 

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2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Just a few years ago these same people were yelling Seven Win Steve and talking about how he would never win here and didn't develop players at his previous stops as a head coach. Now all the sudden Tyrone Swoopes would've been 14-0 with this team, and that same Seven Win Steve is the greatest developer of talent in the country. Lol. Never quit Surly.

Did someone say “Seven-win phteven”?IMG_7624.jpeg.7b9c08650c9a9f94947f7e61012f6617.jpeg

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re: sam-

when he was still in HS and committed to Texas i went to the recruiting board and posted that, imo, sam was good at everything but great at nothing, that he wasn’t good enough to qb a title winning team, and that, again, imo, he’d never pass beuchele on the depth chart, and that i foresaw him transferring before he ever got the starting job. as someone who’d never previously visited the recruiting forum, i was wildly unaware of the hornets nest i had just walked into. from that point forward, a metric shit ton of westlake/Texas fans swore up and down that i hated sam ehlinger, and thus made me the target of their indefatigable ire.

after sam won the starting job, the vitriol was flying at me from every direction. people just spiking the ball in my face left and right. fair enough. but me being me (and i stand by this to this day), i still maintained that, “he’s not as good as y’all think he is.” and he wasn’t. two offseasons in a row there was heisman talk, and when i scoffed, you guessed it-more vitriol.

then, his senior year, i said that sam would never lock down an nfl starting qb job, which again, made a lot of people react hysterically, as if their child had just been shot or something equally tragic. the bombastic and emotional reactions to my takes on sam never accurately reflected anything that i said or felt about him, but good luck convincing the hive mind otherwise.

that’s just the way it is: 90% of the “derka’d” threads on this site take place in this forum (a place i hardly visit), and 100% of those “derka’d” threads involve people becoming incensed because i say and feel, “darling qb ‘x’ isn’t as good as y’all think he is.” and, ftr, 100% of the time i’ve been right. same with shaka, GoT, ted lasso, rick and morty, etc. you name it. when people here like something, they by and large cannot handle a dissenting opinion. anyone who doesn’t parrot the party line “hates” the player, the coach, the tv show, etc. this feeling is pervasive throughout this site.

in conclusion: i’ve always liked sam; i will always root for him; people here are by and large insanely blinded through burnt orange tinted glasses, and they handle opposing opinions as well as chris farley handles being lied to about the coffee he’s drinking. in never going to back down when the crowd hates my opinion, and the crowd is going to hate every dissenting opinion i have. the cycle will repeat. i am at peace with this. 

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On 5/14/2025 at 8:39 PM, Derka said:

also, as i said in that very post, it’s impossible to give QE the benefit of the doubt considering his comically terrible footwork and consistently inaccurate throws. but don’t let that stop you from fellating the most underachieving qb we’ve ever had while patting yourself on the back for doing so. 

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

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3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

Given his 1.000 ranking, draft position and such Quinn is definitely a bigger under achiever than him. Quinn is closer to Simms and Applewhite than he is Colt or Vince 

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17 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Former UT quarterback Chris Simms admits he took money from boosters

yeah, he’s up there, but at his best he was so much better than QE ever was. go back and watch that A&M game Roy’s freshman year. Simms looked like the biggest lock for no.1 overall pick ever in that game. big, strong, accurate, *huge* arm, just firing missiles all over the field. he also no doubt had a toughness about him that QE just doesn’t have. 

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Given his 1.000 ranking, draft position and such Quinn is definitely a bigger under achiever than him. Quinn is closer to Simms and Applewhite than he is Colt or Vince 

Simms coming here was a big deal, he wasnt some unknown. I think he won some national HS player of the year awards. In three appearances against OU, he had 0Td's and 8 Ints. Thats as bad as it gets for a Texas QB. I cant look past that dogshit. And then there was Colorado....

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chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

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6 hours ago, Blotto said:

Simms coming here was a big deal, he wasnt some unknown. I think he won some national HS player of the year awards. In three appearances against OU, he had 0Td's and 8 Ints. Thats as bad as it gets for a Texas QB. I cant look past that dogshit. And then there was Colorado....

I’m sure Simms would have been 2-1 or 3-0 vs the dog shit OU teams Quinn had the luxury of playing. 

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Be fair... Sark came in with a "Seven wins and Drunk" rep, a coupla Saban years and a recommendation from the GOAT.

Like (I suspect) a lot of the rest of us, I have a certain amount of life experience dealing with Recovering Alcoholics - some of them are, but some are not, actually recovering.

Early Sark did himself no favors in Year One, starting afire and flaming out in a six-consecutive-loss disaster. That performance absolutely deserved a label of Six Loss Steve, along with suspicions of Not Recovering.

These last two seasons have seen us - well, Sark -with a good, but not transcendent, Quarterback, a much improved Defense, and a team needing only a little more running game to have been repeat national champions. Either a QB with more ability as a runner or a Bijan-alike prolly woulda given us that bit of boost.

Good work, Sark.

And Thank You, Quinn.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Derka said:

chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

Chris Simms dominated?  That was the Roy Williams show that day…

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8 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Chris Simms dominated?  That was the Roy Williams show that day…

Yeah, I was definitely team Simms in the Simms V Applewhite debate, but on that day Roy did most of the heavy lifting.  He scored on an end around, turned some very short receptions into tens of yards after the catch, and in general showed why he might (still) be the greatest receiver in Texas history.  We also scored on a fumble recovery.

And, that was hardly a great LSU team.  Good, not great.  They wouldn't have sniffed even a 12-team playoff.

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Simms and Applewhite are equally mid QBs but for different reasons. Quinn is closer to those guys than he is Vince or Colt. 

Yeah I think if I'm ranking Texas QBs, Quinn is in that group along with James Brown. I suppose Ehlinger but I probably slot him higher. 

It's tough because they all had their ups and downs, great moments and horrific ones, played for different coaches, different offenses, etc.

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27 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Chris Simms dominated?  That was the Roy Williams show that day…

lol, go watch roy’s highlights from that game. quinn ewers literally cannot make those throws.

amyome here who thinks that QE is even close to as good as chris simms either wasn’t around back then or is drunk off the kool-aid. switch QE and quinn and simms has at least one national title while quinn makes sure we get low here near that terrible 2001 big xii title game.

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God forbid someone have a different opinion.  In my opinion both were good college QBs with clear flaws who didn't match the hype.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

God forbid someone have a different opinion.  In my opinion both were good college QBs with clear flaws who didn't match the hype.

 

 

“god forbid”, give me a break. the two aren’t even close. simms choked in some big games, with plenty of help from mack and gdgd, but on a week to week/overall basis it’s truly not close. size, strength, accuracy, the ability to fire the ball into tight windows, the ability to make progressions, and a general lack of abject fear of the pass rush- simms >>> quinn. it’s truly not close. you really think that chris simms, surrounded by the 2024 offense + coaching staff gets shut down by the likes of kentucky, arkansas, and asu? i don’t think so. simms was a well above average qb who choked in some big games. QE was a below average QB despite having the best surrounding cast in america. this ain’t even a debate.

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I had forgotten the 0 TDs and 8 INTs deal with Simms and OU. Jesus.

Neither Simms nor Roy Williams scored a TD against OU. Take a bow, Greg Davis. 

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11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I think we're getting somewhere now with a Simms vs. Ewers debate. Continue. 

Believe me, I get the snark.  That said, I'm up for the debate, because well, I'm up and waiting on family. 

The idea that Ewers "literally cannot make those throws" is ridiculous.  Did their styles look different?  Sure.  Simms threw flat bullets, Ewers threw lofted passes to various degrees that were often easier to catch.  The implication is that Ewers can't throw those 15-30 yard downfield passes, and it's simply not true.  One can easily find dozens of examples in just 2024 alone.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

“god forbid”, give me a break. the two aren’t even close. simms choked in some big games, with plenty of help from mack and gdgd, but on a week to week/overall basis it’s truly not close. size, strength, accuracy, the ability to fire the ball into tight windows, the ability to make progressions, and a general lack of abject fear of the pass rush- simms >>> quinn. it’s truly not close. you really think that chris simms, surrounded by the 2024 offense + coaching staff gets shit down by the likes of kentucky, arkansas, and asu? i don’t think so.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The idea that Ewers "literally cannot make those throws" is ridiculous.

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

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you’re quoting stats comparing different eras, different offenses, and wildly different supporting casts. i’m talking about what each qb was capable of and how he performed week to week. QE and Simms are nowhere near the same player. 

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

Next is QE played with crap teammates

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

Quinn Ewers was a far better runner than Colt McCoy.

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2 minutes ago, Derka said:

you misspelled “100% correct.” simms was firing the ball into roy on timing routes, one of QE’s most glaring weaknesses. what’s next, QE was just as good with his legs as colt was? stop it.

You should really go back and watch the 2003 cotton bowl.  Your memory isn’t as good as you think.  Simms in the first half went 3 and out twice.  Threw a fucking bullet at Brock Edwards on a routine dump off.  Missed an open corner route to BJ Johnson and threw a bullet behind Williams on a slant that Roy nearly housed.  It was a fucking awful pass by Simms.  You’ve got some real hate for Quinn.  Why is that?

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Quinn Ewers was a far better runner than Colt McCoy.

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holy shit, can you imagine QE playing in gdgd’s offense behind the 2009 o line? he would not have survived half the season.

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My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

I absolutely remember that game, and I saw it pretty much as you did.  I never felt like Simms let us down that day.

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19 minutes ago, Derka said:

holy shit, can you imagine QE playing in gdgd’s offense behind the 2009 o line? he would not have survived half the season.

I'm with you there.

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15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My biggest Simms memory: 

Was at the Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon with @henrygandorf.  We're driving at end of game. Simms throws three passes into the endzone, one each to Roy, BJ, and Sloan. All incomplete, from my view it looked like all three could have been caught. Feel free to correct me for anyone who remembers those plays, I never watched the TV broadcast. Always felt that could have been a turning point for Simms if we won that game. Bummer. 

 

they should have been caught, especially the pass to roy.

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Yes, this is a highlight reel, but I think it should put to rest the idea that Ewers CAN'T make most of the throws many other NFL caliber QBs make.  The better question in my mind is "why doesn't he make some of those throws more often?".  Like many, I think lingering injuries hampered him.

 

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chris simms (coached by mack and gdgd) dominated a team coached by nick saban (hc), jimbo fisher (oc), will muschamp (dc), and kirby smart (st). simms at his best >>>>>>>>> QE.

Correction. Roy Williams dominated that team.
Simms choked a Big 12 title and Quinn set a record…
You guys are mentally ill lol.

Let’s not act like the competition in those two games was even close though.
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I had forgotten the 0 TDs and 8 INTs deal with Simms and OU. Jesus.
Neither Simms nor Roy Williams scored a TD against OU. Take a bow, Greg Davis. 

Did they call that a fumble or pick 6 on the evil Roy Superman play? Thanks a lot Brett Robin.
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56 minutes ago, Derka said:

you’re quoting stats comparing different eras, different offenses, and wildly different supporting casts. i’m talking about what each qb was capable of and how he performed week to week. QE and Simms are nowhere near the same player. 

Lol. This dude has completely jumped the Shark!

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41 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Correction. Roy Williams dominated that team.
Let’s not act like the competition in those two games was even close though.

10-4 Oklahoma State was slightly worse than 10-3 Colorado.  Simms fuckstomped them once that season then had a nuclear meltdown.  Quinn set a record and won the title with a comparable talent advantage.

Oli Gordon is at least equal to Chris Brown.  Purify and Brown gives a slight edge.  Both teams had a few NFL defenders and trash QB’s.  It’s not the gulf that you think.

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1 hour ago, Fondren & Main said:

10-4 Oklahoma State was slightly worse than 10-3 Colorado.  Simms fuckstomped them once that season then had a nuclear meltdown.  Quinn set a record and won the title with a comparable talent advantage.

Oli Gordon is at least equal to Chris Brown.  Purify and Brown gives a slight edge.  Both teams had a few NFL defenders and trash QB’s.  It’s not the gulf that you think.

But then you see Ollie Gordon this year and I don’t think so. Had he built off that season then sure. 

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