Jump to content

Arch Manning: Doing his best JAG impression to fool scouts


Recommended Posts

Posted
I still can't decide if that TD throw was a bad throw that got lucky to be caught or purposely put in that location to avoid the defender.

It was poor fundamentals. Flat footed, no anticipation. He aimed it there and probably made it harder than it needed to.

I have very little confidence he’ll overcome this during this year. He’s not learning with more reps, he’s regressing. And SEC play he’ll regress a lot if he’s not able to throw a football.
Posted
1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

What kind of pillow does Arch have? There's your problem. The fucking pillow. And that's Sark's fault all the way. If Sark wasn't calling the plays, he could notice things like pillows.

 

tenor-3196113894.gif

  • Haha 1
Posted
2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

In amongst this Wild Speculation Thread was this important post above. I never would have guessed that Arch is under more pressure than any other SEC QB. 

Just  anecdotally, it seemed like he’s had plenty of time to throw quite a bit. We all know the OL is shaky, but this stat shows it’s way more shaky than I realized. Arch has missed guys badly with plenty of time to throw, but maybe the poor OL play is making him look worse than he is. 

OR, we design a number of plays to get Arch out of a shaky pocket, on the move, or misdirection plays to expose an over pursuing defense.  Can I get one GD bootleg.  Can we get receivers in the flat.  Screens.  Something to get the ball out quickly, gain a few yards, and set up a few 3rd and shorts.  

Posted

At this point if feels so clear he has the yips. I'd guess that his family would think the same. 

I expect everyone around him to be proactive on this, whether it's having him talk to a sports psychologist or other athletes that have gone through something similar. The question will be how long it takes to get him right. 

 

  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted
Wait until you find out that every game Texas has lost ever was because the refs screwed up or were getting paid or were told by the league office or the tv networks to make certain calls. 
 
Also any team we don’t like that wins a game against any other opponent not named Texas only won because of the refs.  
 
These are the facts.  And they are undisputed. 

Our games are much better officiated without Big12 interference. It’s night and day and backed up by statistically significant numbers between 2013-2023. The last year and a half has been a revelation. It’s a myth that the anti-UT bias during this time is a myth.
  • Hook 'Em 4
Posted
11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I'm assuming that is another PFF number, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The OL ain't great, but it has been adequate in pass protection, and I rarely see Arch running for his life. If anything, he has created some self-pressure by bailing too early on reads.

  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted
12 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


Our games are much better officiated without Big12 interference. It’s night and day and backed up by statistically significant numbers between 2013-2023. The last year and a half has been a revelation. It’s a myth that the anti-UT bias during this time is a myth.

You said myth twice. 

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I'm assuming that is another PFF number, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The OL ain't great, but it has been adequate in pass protection, and I rarely see Arch running for his life. If anything, he has created some self-pressure by bailing too early on reads.

 

sure but in the portal / nil age, UT having even an average OL is a red flag. staff / gm failure to identify need and talent 

 

Edited by tx 3 putt
  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Like 2
Posted (edited)
53 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Has anyone suggested bringing in Cheech and Rene Russo to unfuck his brain?

Goddamn how old are you? Gotta update those references. 

Try bringing in Seth Rogan and Sydney Sweeney to unfuck his brain. 

Edited by Park Gothic
FTR, I agree that Rene Russo was an absolute dime back in the day.
  • Like 1
Posted

I think he has the "yips". Check out this story about former Wisconsin QB Joel Stave and his case of the yips. I could totally see this being the case. 

Quote

"Maybe it begins the next morning, with the simplest drill at a summer practice. No helmets, no pads, no spectators in the crowd. Receivers lined up, running simple 10- to 12-yard outs. The bullet you're used to firing wobbles toward the target. A second pass, and the ball smacks the turf a few feet in front of a different receiver. You shake it off. Everyone has bad days."

 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

Three google quickies:

Why don't quarterbacks bench press?
 
 
The reason the barbell bench press has been labelled a “dangerous” exercise for quarterbacks is because the barbell locks you into an 'internally rotated' position (pronated grip) and your hands cannot move freely (like they can with dumbells).Feb 22, 2012
 
 
Why does Tom Brady not lift weights?
 
Tom Brady doesn't run, block, or tackle so he doesn't need the strength of other players. His exercises are for flexibility. Since he only thinks and throws he has been able to avoid serious injury. Clearly, a person can be in good shape without weight lifting and not everyone needs it.Oct 27, 2021
What exercises should quarterbacks not do?
 
 
What Exercises Should Quarterbacks Avoid?
  • The Barbell Bench Press. While it's true than any athlete with restricted shoulder mobility or stability can get an injury while benching, quarterbacks are particularly at risk since they throw so often. ...
  • Biceps Curls. ...

 

 

  • Drool 1
Posted
37 minutes ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

You said myth twice


IMG_8656.gif.eb79dfb739f1b6e0ecc8f22ccf874949.gif

 

 

32 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Goddamn how old are you? Gotta update those references. 

Try bringing in Seth Rogan and Sydney Sweeney to unfuck his brain. 

If you are referencing a specific movie, you tend to name the actors/actresses from that actual movie. 
Rene Russo & Cheech Marin were in the fucking movie, not Seth Rogan and Tits McGee.

  • Haha 1
Posted
25 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Three google quickies:

Why don't quarterbacks bench press?
 
 
The reason the barbell bench press has been labelled a “dangerous” exercise for quarterbacks is because the barbell locks you into an 'internally rotated' position (pronated grip) and your hands cannot move freely (like they can with dumbells).Feb 22, 2012
 
 
Why does Tom Brady not lift weights?
 
Tom Brady doesn't run, block, or tackle so he doesn't need the strength of other players. His exercises are for flexibility. Since he only thinks and throws he has been able to avoid serious injury. Clearly, a person can be in good shape without weight lifting and not everyone needs it.Oct 27, 2021
What exercises should quarterbacks not do?
 
 
What Exercises Should Quarterbacks Avoid?
  • The Barbell Bench Press. While it's true than any athlete with restricted shoulder mobility or stability can get an injury while benching, quarterbacks are particularly at risk since they throw so often. ...
  • Biceps Curls. ...

 

 

that's really interesting. I wouldn't have though it.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted (edited)

Remember, these kids are really into their bodies, as well as their girlfriend's bodies. They want to look good, and at that age they can bulk up fast. The real problem with the wrong kind of lifting is not that it can screw up your agility for a few hours, which it definitely can, but in trying to do what you're used to doing effortlessly, say throw a deep pass... you do that with tightened, bulked up muscles, and you can tear and permanently injure tissue, especially tendons. Things just won't work like they should and there may be no going back.

I was a little surprised to read that Brady apparently never lifted weights, but it makes sense. Almost never injured.

Then again, why do you think players "stretch" before a game - to avoid injuries. Do QBs stretch? Hope so, but if they decide to skip the slow warm up and let one fly...

Edited by Irish Wrist Watch
Posted
17 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Remember, these kids are really into their bodies, as well as their girlfriend's bodies. They want to look good, and at that age they can bulk up fast. The real problem with the wrong kind of lifting is not that it can screw up your agility for a few hours, which it definitely can, but in trying to do what you're used to doing effortlessly, say throw a deep pass... you do that with tightened, bulked up muscles, and you can tear and permanently injure tissue, especially tendons. Things just won't work like they should and there may be no going back.

I was a little surprised to read that Brady apparently never lifted weights, but it makes sense. Almost never injured.

Then again, why do you think players "stretch" before a game - to avoid injuries. Do QBs stretch? Hope so, but if they decide to skip the slow warm up and let one fly...

Arch apparently stretches out both shoulders 18,000 times a day.

Posted

We are stating to blame this on his weightlifting regiment? Which presumably hasn't changed since he got here? 

We saw that he has all the tools last year, live action, against the same talent he has seen in the last two games. I won't pretend to know why, but I can officially rule out some barbell lifts. 

 

  • Like 2
Posted
42 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Remember, these kids are really into their bodies, as well as their girlfriend's bodies. They want to look good, and at that age they can bulk up fast. The real problem with the wrong kind of lifting is not that it can screw up your agility for a few hours, which it definitely can, but in trying to do what you're used to doing effortlessly, say throw a deep pass... you do that with tightened, bulked up muscles, and you can tear and permanently injure tissue, especially tendons. Things just won't work like they should and there may be no going back.

I was a little surprised to read that Brady apparently never lifted weights, but it makes sense. Almost never injured.

Then again, why do you think players "stretch" before a game - to avoid injuries. Do QBs stretch? Hope so, but if they decide to skip the slow warm up and let one fly...

Dude is a starting QB for a helmet school, is on tv and all over social media constantly, has a legendary last name, and millions in NIL money. 
 

He can look like the kid from Goonies that was locked in the basement.  He’s still going to date 10’s. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


Our games are much better officiated without Big12 interference. It’s night and day and backed up by statistically significant numbers between 2013-2023. The last year and a half has been a revelation. It’s a myth that the anti-UT bias during this time is a myth.

If the Peach Bowl refs had been XII, Taaffe gets called for targetting and we likely lose. I'm not saying that was clearly not targetting, but if any call was "controversial" we got the short end with XII refs.

Posted

The why doesn't matter. it really doesn't. If it was fixable, Sark would have fixed it after Arch missed a slew of open recevers in Columbus. It has only gotten worse.

We all know if he wasn't named Manning, he wouldn't start against SHSU. This would be the tune-up game for Caldwell, then he would have 2 weeks of practice with the ones before UF.

The Arch/Lagway suckfest in Gainesville will be legendary for all the wrong reasons.

 

Posted

It feels like we dont use the middle of the field. We constantly have WR open in the middle but rarly go there except on seam routes and deep posts.  I dont think this is an Arch thing, same thing happened with Ewers.  We don't like to use the middle and defenses we play know that.  

Posted
8 hours ago, Derka said:

he’s worse this year than he was last year, so no, “he’s just not that good” isn’t the answer. he has regressed, majorly, and his throwing motion is awkward and different from what it was last year. the “maybe he’s just not that good” crowd sound like some really really hopeful quinn apologists.

Get help

Posted
51 minutes ago, Pound Town said:

We are stating to blame this on his weightlifting regiment? Which presumably hasn't changed since he got here? 

We saw that he has all the tools last year, live action, against the same talent he has seen in the last two games. I won't pretend to know why, but I can officially rule out some barbell lifts. 

 

I’ll take it over creating alcoholism rumors I guess

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



×
×
  • Create New...