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The debunking/verifying of aggy-esque political urban legends/email chains


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I received the email posted below from a fishing buddy of mine.  He is in his early 70's, a Vietnam vet, voted for Trump etc.

He is in the habit of forwarding these types of emails every few months.  We are all aware of the olds propensity to forward urban legend type email chains of all stripes, and while my friend is not as bad as some of my relatives, I feel like I should respond but I don't really want to do the research or end up being a dick about it.

So I am starting this thread for the surly time wasters to posts their own encounters and provide their debunking evidence-try to keep it in the political arena to remain relevant to the board.

The email below is obviously of the right wing variety but I am sure just as many are out there from the left-I guess.

As for the below email-without doing any research whatsoever, I am willing to bet most if not all of these stories are completely false and never happened and even if they did, some of the responses seem pretty stupid and kind of ass hole-ish.  This particular email made me think of the aggy "good sport" nonsense that spews forth on the regular.

So take break from the intense political scene and enjoy the low hanging fruit. Because facts matter.

These are good





JFK'S 


Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when 


DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaulle said he wanted all US 


military out of France as soon as possible. 



Rusk responded,
"Does that include those who are buried here?" 



DeGaulle 


did not respond.
You 


could have heard a pin drop.







When in England ,
at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the 




Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of 


'empire building' by George Bush.. 




He answered by saying,
"Over the years, the United States has sent many of 




its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom 


beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for 


in return is enough to bury those that did not 


return."
You 


could have heard a pin drop.
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There was a conference in France
where a number of international engineers 


were taking part, including French and American. During a break, 


one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you 


heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft 


carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he 


intend to do, bomb them?" 



A Boeing engineer
stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three 




hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are 


nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to 


shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to 


feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand 


gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a 


dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and 


from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships;
how many does France have?"
You 


could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


A U.S. Navy Admiral
was attending a naval conference that included 


Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French 


Navies At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large 


group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries. 


Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a 


French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many 


languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, "Why is it that 


we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than 


speaking French?" 



Without hesitating,
the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the 




Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't 


have to speak German."
You 


could have heard a pin drop.
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AND 


THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE.. 


Robert Whiting,
an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport
in his carry on. 


"You 


have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked 


sarcastically. 



Mr. Whiting
admitted that he had been to France 


previously. 


"Then 


you should know enough to have your passport ready." 


The American said,
"The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it." 




"Impossible.. 


Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France !" 


The American senior
gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he 


quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 


1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen 


to show a passport to." 


You 


could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If 


you are proud to be an American, pass this on! If not, delete it.
I am proud to be of this land, AMERICA
 
 
 
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All of them are most likely false. A D-day vet would have never said that shit himself.  However, a 30 year old aggy would for sure say something like "my grandpa didn't have to show a passport when he landed here on D-day."  And if I was a French customs officer, I'd reply "tell your grandfather he's always welcome here" as I deny aggy entry and put him on the next flight back.

Most of these just show how assholish Americans can/could even in stories we make up ourselves.  You never hear a made up story about some Frenchman telling an American "you'd still be British if it wasn't for us."

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14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Terrific layout.  Super readable.

lol there's this magic button that people seem to miss "convert to normal text".

 

But maybe in the spirit of "e-mail chains" this should be

 

comic sans baby blue 18 pt triple spacing between paragraphs.💘

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My recommendation to the OP would be that any effort spent trying to convince the olds that their world view is incorrect would be better spent educating 18-30 year olds on the importance of voting.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

My recommendation to the OP would be that any effort spent trying to convince the olds that their world view is incorrect would be better spent educating 18-30 year olds on the importance of voting.

 

 

I agree. I just want the olds to think about what they are forwarding before they do it.

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1 hour ago, DaysOff said:
2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:
Terrific layout.  Super readable.

I guess your folks aren't elderly or they don't fwd:fwd:fwd emails to you because that's exactly what they look like.

Shit, I turned 55 on Tuesday.  I'm AARP all the way now.  I couldn't hardly read it.  Maybe my mind just hasn't quite atrophied enough yet.

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Check this shit.  A place all of these were posted, masquerading as a CNN site.  http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-760536

 

Edit:  apparently that is CNN, but some user-content section.  I'd never heard of it and it looks fishy as hell.

Edit2:  it also appears that the DeGaulle one is largely true, which isn't surprising because he was such a prick.

And happy birthday, old man (I'm right behind ya).

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Check this shit.  A place all of these were posted, masquerading as a CNN site.  http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-760536

 

And happy birthday, old man (I'm right behind ya).

I saw that...and I turned 51 in January.

Here are a couple of clean links with actual debunking/editorializing going on, which of course, cite snopes etc.

http://www.eclectica.org/v14n4/dooley_salon.html

http://freethoughtalmanac.com/?p=4152 

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