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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

Defense is still trash. Pickens checked out after the bullshit OPI earlier in the game.

I'll agree that he disappeared, but isn't it possible that Detroit took him out of the game by double teaming him? Dak couldn't or wouldn't pass to him. in any case, he needed to make a full effort, but was nowhere to be found

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1 hour ago, perfectchaos007 said:

That bullshit OPI against Ferguson effectively ended the game. Thats a Defensive PI 50% of the time and a no-call 49% of the time


The lions declined the OPI so the result was the same as a no call. Cowboys decided to kick on 4th and 3. Not sure it mattered in the end with as trash as the defense was. 

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Maybe we shouldn't blame some of these players. Maybe they were simply out partying too hard last night. Maybe, just like Vegas, they were at it til 7 in the morning and just became too sleepy for a night game. Can't blame them. Life's complicated for people making $10mil or $20mil a year.

Wasn't Pickens the one with Lamb at that Vegas Hotel at 7AM? Just asking.

It's the league's fault for scheduling a late game. Guess the search goes on for a coach who can handle these types. A Jimmy Johnson type, say. And a owner who can sniff out problem players. 

Too early to blame Clottenschotter. He's learning on the fly, and defense doesn't seem to be his bag, although I've always wondered why an offensive genius doesn't seem to understand how a good defense works.

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It’s over.

Losing to a good Detroit team at their place isn’t the cardinal sin, though. Let us not forget that Jerry “built” one of the worst defenses in league history coming into the season and that’s the reason we’re not going to be in the playoffs. 

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the team was never making the playoffs.  they’re not that good.  every fucking year they win some great games that make idiots puff out their chests.  it’s all smoke and mirrors; this is a bad organization in charge of a spineless team with a clown at quarterback.  it’s been this way.  don’t worry, I won’t gloat.  just know that I always have been and always will be right. 

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This team would have gotten shredded in the playoffs anyways. Any team they faced would have had a good offense.

They should have bottomed out after the Arizona debacle but nope, had to win 3 games before showing their true colors last night. I'm sure they'll win the rest of their games and still miss the playoffs. It's the Cowboys way.

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Pickens shitty effort last night was why Pittsburgh let him go, that and he is a basket case.  The first INT if he just extends his hands to the ball the defender can't deflect it like he did.  I wouldn't lose any sleep if he went elsewhere in the offseason.   All the talent in the world, but a complete nutjob.  

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2 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

Pickens shitty effort last night was why Pittsburgh let him go, that and he is a basket case.  The first INT if he just extends his hands to the ball the defender can't deflect it like he did.  I wouldn't lose any sleep if he went elsewhere in the offseason.   All the talent in the world, but a complete nutjob.  

Yet he’s still way better than Cee Dee. 
 

Get rid of them both and Dak and tank to start over. Let Jerry ride off into the sunset on a 2 win season. 

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1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

They should have bottomed out after the Arizona debacle but nope, had to win 3 games before showing their true colors last night. I'm sure they'll win the rest of their games and still miss the playoffs. It's the Cowboys way.

don’t forget that these garbage time wins (the dak special) will drop our 1st round draft pick about a dozen spots.  not that we need young talent or anything. 

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37 minutes ago, futureman said:

don’t forget that these garbage time wins (the dak special) will drop our 1st round draft pick about a dozen spots.  not that we need young talent or anything. 

I mean the players are playing to win. They don't care about draft picks. I don't fault them for winning and they played damn good and won 2 games most gave them no shot to win. Always fun to beat the Eagles. 

Also not sure how many garbage wins Dak has throughout his career, I'm sure you are referring to wins that mean nothing to making the playoffs? Last year he was hurt early. 2021-2023 made the playoffs, none there. 2020 he was hurt early on. 2016 and 2018 made the playoffs, none there. That leaves 2017 and 2019. Both those years, Dallas melted down in the later part of the year and lost a lot of games. They didn't have a terrible record to start and won a bunch of pointless games that meant nothing. Quite the opposite actually. 

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It's a shame they couldn't' have beaten the shitass Cardinals or they would still be alive. That was a horrible loss. I'm OK not making the playoffs, because it was highly unlikely anyway. But they now look like a borderline playoff team quality wise. 

Cowboys are currently sitting at 13 and 27 with their first round picks. They need to keep refining their game and competing, but they also should be developing young players as much as possible.  Don't risk a worse injury with Ceedee if he's cleared. Start Flournoy next week and keep polishing him and even get Mingo more time, though his Cowboys future is almost certainly coming to an end. What a wasted pick that was. Activate Blue and have him return kicks to see if he can replace Turpin and his contract. The young defensive guys are already getting more time, so hopefully they can avoid injury and keep getting better.

It has been fun for the last few weeks. I keep thinking if they had just squeaked into the playoffs, maybe won a first round game, it would be a classic NFL Films kind of year for a comeback story. Shame they couldn't pull it off, but it's OK. 

It's gonna be tough to fill remaining needs going into next year. I doubt if they kick efferpus to the curb and get a higher end DC. So it will probably go back to being the usual first round playoff choke kick in the balls, or a major injury or two that shits all over the season.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

I mean the players are playing to win. They don't care about draft picks. I don't fault them for winning and they played damn good and won 2 games most gave them no shot to win. Always fun to beat the Eagles. 

Also not sure how many garbage wins Dak has throughout his career, I'm sure you are referring to wins that mean nothing to making the playoffs? Last year he was hurt early. 2021-2023 made the playoffs, none there. 2020 he was hurt early on. 2016 and 2018 made the playoffs, none there. That leaves 2017 and 2019. Both those years, Dallas melted down in the later part of the year and lost a lot of games. They didn't have a terrible record to start and won a bunch of pointless games that meant nothing. Quite the opposite actually. 

I know the players try to win every week.  it’s just funny that they play with their hair on fire and win some big games that ultimately don’t matter while losing to arizona and other shit teams.  and then I also take any chance I can get to shit on dak because he’s a fake superstar and useless choking untalented sack of horseshit. 

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4 hours ago, futureman said:

the team was never making the playoffs.  they’re not that good.  every fucking year they win some great games that make idiots puff out their chests.  it’s all smoke and mirrors; this is a bad organization in charge of a spineless team with a clown at quarterback.  it’s been this way.  don’t worry, I won’t gloat.  just know that I always have been and always will be right. 

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5 hours ago, Bill Brasky said:

Pickens shitty effort last night was why Pittsburgh let him go, that and he is a basket case.  The first INT if he just extends his hands to the ball the defender can't deflect it like he did.  I wouldn't lose any sleep if he went elsewhere in the offseason.   All the talent in the world, but a complete nutjob.  

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^^^ "much love.." lol

 

i think pickens might have been hurt last night. he was questionable earlier this week and then he took a funny shot to his left arm in the first quarter.

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On 12/5/2025 at 12:09 AM, Firemans4Horn said:


The lions declined the OPI so the result was the same as a no call. Cowboys decided to kick on 4th and 3. Not sure it mattered in the end with as trash as the defense was. 

It was a terrible call and should have given Dallas a new set of downs, but the bigger issue is it highlights Schotty's shitty game management in always being conservative and not understanding he was bringing his rubber knife to a gun fight.  The end of the first half was another great example of this.  I'm not always a "go for every 4th down" guy but sometimes you get in a game and it's obvious you need TDs and TOP and the risk is worth the return.  Schotty is hardwired by his Dad and manages the game like it.  Like he's still in the late 80's.  Either he'll need to evolve this offseason, or we simply have another Jason Garrett on our hands.

On 12/5/2025 at 7:18 AM, tokamak said:

It’s over.

Losing to a good Detroit team at their place isn’t the cardinal sin, though. Let us not forget that Jerry “built” one of the worst defenses in league history coming into the season and that’s the reason we’re not going to be in the playoffs. 

Pretty much.  The back 7 is historically bad.  The LB corp is historically bad.  Williams is hoss, but he can only do so much.  This defense is really like 6 players away from being good or good enough to be ship level.  Their 3 top players are DT's.  You'll have to convince Clark to bring down his cap number which probably means guaranteeing a later year on this contract.  But beyond the 3 DT's, Overshown (who badly needs a better DC), and the rookie edge, the Cowboys don't have anything.  Years of missing in the draft has come back to bite them.  Maybe the rookie CB is something.  Maybe Bland gets better with another offseason of health.  Maybe we can keep Houston as a situational pass rusher, but that leaves the team needing 2 more LBs (at least), 2 CBs (at least), 2 more DEs (at least), and a couple of safeties.  All of this is predicated on firing a terrible DC and getting a 4th DC in 4 years and changing schemes once again.  Zimmer was a unbelievably stupid choice last year because of his age and ambitions.  

On 12/5/2025 at 8:25 AM, Zeus said:

Yet he’s still way better than Cee Dee. 
 

Get rid of them both and Dak and tank to start over. Let Jerry ride off into the sunset on a 2 win season. 

He can be better than CeeDee but that's like top 5-6 in the league when Lamb is healthy playing well.  It's been shown that Jerrah without backing ass into a good QB to lead the franchise is lost at sea.  What you posit here is for the Cowboys to pretty much be a bottom 10 team for a half dozen years.  We've seen it before.  The only reset which will matter is Jerrah dies and Stephen either surprises us and just does finances or he does shortly after and the family decides to sell.  Otherwise, it's very difficult to want a hard reset because the Cowboys are so bad at so many things.... drafting included.  I do think maybe letting Dak go so he can win elsewhere may be the biggest solid they could do for him. 

The good news on Pickens is he just brought down his contract value by like 3-5m a year this week if you do want to bring him back.

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