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I want to LOL that 3 people in a row basically said the exact same thing in 3 very different ways...

But sadly, I don't find it amusing cause truth hurts.

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24 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

My problem with the UGA front 4 performance is that they weren't putting up great numbers ahead of the game last year and then they lit Texas up.

Sounds a lot like the scouting reports before the UF and MSU games as well, and both those teams abused our OL and clobbered Arch. Maybe we figured something out with Hutson/Robertson and 11 personnel. Maybe. 

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9 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Sounds a lot like the scouting reports before the UF and MSU games as well, and both those teams abused our OL and clobbered Arch. Maybe we figured something out with Hutson/Robertson and 11 personnel. Maybe. 

2 people above and in this very post you quoted already figured it out, except apparently Sark. The solution is simple and it really all depends on whether or not Sark finally accepts what many here and elsewhere have been pointing out since OU. (And some prior)

 

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9 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

2 people above and in this very post you quoted already figured it out, except apparently Sark. The solution is simple and it really all depends on whether or not Sark finally accepts what many here and elsewhere have been pointing out since OU. (And some prior)

 

Thanks for your reply. My post was primarily aimed at pointing out that several teams with terrible pass rushes got right by playing us. Whether these are actual “fixes” to that pattern remains to be seen, and not meant to imply I know more than Sarkisian. They are just the slim thread by which any hopes I have for the season currently hang. 

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4 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

If BYU loses a second time to Tech in the CCG, they don't have a compelling argument to be included in the playoffs. In other words, they've definitively and emphatically proven they're not the best team in the country if they lose to the same team twice and, therefore, should not be stealing another team's spot.

I could see that as being the committee's reasoning for excluding them when it comes to selection time.

Or BYU could have 2 losses to a top 10( top 5?) team. 
That's hardly damning in the big picture. 
 

They also would be penalized for making their Conference Championship Game. 

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Or BYU could have 2 losses to a top 10( top 5?) team. 
That's hardly damning in the big picture. 
 

They also would be penalized for making their Conference Championship Game. 

 

I've retreated from that earlier stance.

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All that being said, it's almost impossible to ignore that Texas passes the eye test and absolutely is a draw. 
 

That Florida game is a bitch to explain. Winning is the solution. 

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18 minutes ago, Iceman said:

All that being said, it's almost impossible to ignore that Texas passes the eye test and absolutely is a draw. 
 

That Florida game is a bitch to explain. Winning is the solution. 

The whole season is hard to explain. The Ohio State game was extremely winnable if Arch plays decent. We outgained them something like 330 to 200. And then we were utter dog shit against UTEP, Kentucky, and most of the MSU game.

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26 minutes ago, Iceman said:

That Florida game is a bitch to explain

The media will spin it however they want and so will the committee.  It has happened before and it will happen again.

If they want someone in, they will justify it. 

2014 Ohio State lost to VT (finished 7-6)
2015 OU lost to Texas (5-7)
2018 Ohio State lost to Purdue (6-7)
2024 Notre Dame lost to NIU (8-5, but a MAC team) 

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26 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The media will spin it however they want and so will the committee.  It has happened before and it will happen again.

If they want someone in, they will justify it. 

2014 Ohio State lost to VT (finished 7-6)
2015 OU lost to Texas (5-7)
2018 Ohio State lost to Purdue (6-7)
2024 Notre Dame lost to NIU (8-5, but a MAC team) 

I mean Alabama lost to FSU which is just as, if not more, confusing. 
 

the thing that will be frustrating is if 9-3 gets held out for a second Big XII team as it would be punishing teams for actually trying to schedule big OOC schedules. BYU, Tech and Utah all had joke of OOC and the Big XII as a whole really did nothing OOC. 

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31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I see the discussion about BYU and I just don't see those guys closing out 11-1. They look like a team with at least another loss in them, maybe two. 

We could definitely drop another game or two (TCU and Cinci are not gimmes), but no one we play has the defense that Tech has. We are fully capable of winning out and I expect us to. 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

The media will spin it however they want and so will the committee.  It has happened before and it will happen again.

If they want someone in, they will justify it. 

2014 Ohio State lost to VT (finished 7-6)
2015 OU lost to Texas (5-7)
2018 Ohio State lost to Purdue (6-7)
2024 Notre Dame lost to NIU (8-5, but a MAC team) 

I still don't understand how ND lost AT HOME to NIU last year. 

32 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

I mean Alabama lost to FSU which is just as, if not more, confusing. 
 

the thing that will be frustrating is if 9-3 gets held out for a second Big XII team as it would be punishing teams for actually trying to schedule big OOC schedules. BYU, Tech and Utah all had joke of OOC and the Big XII as a whole really did nothing OOC. 

Utah's win at 3-6 UCLA is the best win for those three according to Massey. 

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By every metric I've found the SEC is the best conference in football.  Here are head-to-head records among the P4 conferences:

SEC:  10-3

B12:  10-6

B1G:  7-5

ACC:  7-12

 

Combine our overall record with that interconference data and I'd say a 9-3 Texas team should be considered 10-2 (ish), especially if tOSU wins out.

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39 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

By every metric I've found the SEC is the best conference in football.  Here are head-to-head records among the P4 conferences:

SEC:  10-3

B12:  10-6

B1G:  7-5

ACC:  7-12

 

Combine our overall record with that interconference data and I'd say a 9-3 Texas team should be considered 10-2 (ish), especially if tOSU wins out.

11-1 against tech or BYU’s schedule. 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

By every metric I've found the SEC is the best conference in football.  Here are head-to-head records among the P4 conferences:

SEC:  10-3

B12:  10-6

B1G:  7-5

ACC:  7-12

 

Combine our overall record with that interconference data and I'd say a 9-3 Texas team should be considered 10-2 (ish), especially if tOSU wins out.

this has been my thought for a while. 10-2.5.  I am sure our failures with UGA and tOSU over the last year creep into the committee's heads.  A victory over UGA on the road at night would be massive for changing the narrative.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

By every metric I've found the SEC is the best conference in football.  Here are head-to-head records among the P4 conferences:

SEC:  10-3

B12:  10-6

B1G:  7-5

ACC:  7-12

 

Combine our overall record with that interconference data and I'd say a 9-3 Texas team should be considered 10-2 (ish), especially if tOSU wins out.

Functionally Texas will be. With another loss Texas would go into a bucket with 10-2 teams from other conferences for the last CFP spot. 

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6 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

Thanks for your reply. My post was primarily aimed at pointing out that several teams with terrible pass rushes got right by playing us. Whether these are actual “fixes” to that pattern remains to be seen, and not meant to imply I know more than Sarkisian. They are just the slim thread by which any hopes I have for the season currently hang. 

Well if we both poop in one hand and wish in the other, one of us can avoid a shitty hand if we both poop in the same person's hand. 

Don't kink shame me, I'm just spit balling here.

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10 hours ago, blutow said:

Lots of teams have dropped silly games like our florida loss and gone on to win NC's.

Lots?  Name 3.

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5 hours ago, GabrielsHorn said:

the thing that will be frustrating is if 9-3 gets held out for a second Big XII team as it would be punishing teams for actually trying to schedule big OOC schedules. BYU, Tech and Utah all had joke of OOC and the Big XII as a whole really did nothing OOC. 

We'd be punished for losing to Florida and going to OT against Kentucky and Miss St.  That along with another loss would be plenty to show we don't deserve to be there even if we're given the pass for losing to OSU again that all of you seem to think we deserve.

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5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

By every metric I've found the SEC is the best conference in football.  Here are head-to-head records among the P4 conferences:

SEC:  10-3

B12:  10-6

B1G:  7-5

ACC:  7-12

Combine our overall record with that interconference data and I'd say a 9-3 Texas team should be considered 10-2 (ish), especially if tOSU wins out.

There' still some OOC and bowl games left, but the SEC is on schedule for the best year for a conference since the Big 8 in the 80s.  I think some of it has to do with NIL evening the field (in the SEC at least) but also all the P4 "minor" teams lost their covid super-seniors (except Pavia) and have holes unfilled from the covid fallout.

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34 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Ohio state last year , and in 2014 with a bad vtech loss . 2007 lsu . 

2007 Kentucky and Arkansas were both 8-5.

2014 VT was 7-6.

2024 Michigan was 8-5 with a bowl win over Bama.

2025 Florida is probably going to finish 3-9 or 4-8 and just lost by 31 to Kentucky.

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2007 Kentucky and Arkansas were both 8-5.
2014 VT was 7-6.
2024 Michigan was 8-5 with a bowl win over Bama.
2025 Florida is probably going to finish 3-9 or 4-8 and just lost by 31 to Kentucky.
Exactly. That Florida loss was so bad. They are a god awful team. Playoff teams should not be losing to garbage like that.
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I won’t say it will “never” happen because on a long enough timeline it will, but: the teams ranked from 10-12 (really more like 8-12, but I’ll be generous) are really unlikely to win a title. They may upset a team or two that could, but they won’t make a four game slog. 
 

Go back and look at past AP or Coaches polls and find a team with that ranking that really belonged on the field with the winner. 10-12 is talented teams with visible flaws. 

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On 11/9/2025 at 9:36 PM, Brian Fantana said:

They won't fall that far, also getting blown out doesn't help.

True. But the blowout was to a legit team in the top 10 with them, so if they drop like a turd in a trucker stop bathroom it will be shameful. Getting blownout at that cursed field is nothing new. That place is buried in monkey paws, and everyone knows this. On a neutral site, I can see this game being much closer. Imo. 

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9 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Exactly. That Florida loss was so bad. They are a god awful team. Playoff teams should not be losing to garbage like that.

And yet, ND lost to NIU last year and made it to the Championship game.

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Just now, TxEx84 said:

And yet, ND lost to NIU last year and made it to the Championship game.

Because.............................................

The Committee will ignore whatever they want to get the teams they want in.  ND brings eyeballs.  Texas brings eyeballs. 

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Joseph Goodman: The Big Ten is the biggest fraud in college football

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The Big Ten’s war of northern aggression isn’t going so well these days. That’s what happens when most of the teams are trash and the conference is a forgery. The Big Ten is so bad, in fact, that Indiana — historically the worst power conference team in the history of the sport — can rise to the top of the league in two short years thanks to money and a good coach.

We call it the war of northern aggression in jest, of course. We got nothing but love for the Big Ten, bless its heart, even after it declared all out hostilities against the SEC this summer. But the College Football Playoff selection committee has a problem on its hands going into Week 12 of the season and the second installment of its dubious rankings.

There are too many good teams in the SEC this season and the Big Ten is a fraud. In the SEC, a strong case can be made for six teams to make the playoff. That would be half the field of a 12-team playoff. Now let’s do the Big Ten, which is always scheming behind the scenes. In no way should more than two teams from the Big Ten make the College Football Playoff.

Pencil Ohio State and Indiana into the field, and that’s it. Everyone else, including Oregon, can spend the offseason figuring out how to reinvent the Pac-12. Here’s the dirty truth about college football. The Big Ten’s coast-to-coast power play is not working, and it is destroying the sport out West. Now the Big Ten wants to ruin the playoff by expanding the field to 24 teams and giving four auto bids to all the so-called Power conferences.

Why? It’s almost like the Big Ten knows that its conference’s depth is an ankle-deep kitty pool for the kids who never learned how to swim.

A deadline is approaching for the commissioners of college football. They have to agree to the playoff format for 2026 by Dec. 1. The Big Ten is talking expansion in the 11th hour. The SEC isn’t on board. Based on the temperature of both super conferences, it looks like the College Football Playoff is going to remain at 12 teams for at least the 2026 season.

It should be 16, but the Big Ten is going to try to win the board room because we know the conference can’t win anything on the field. The Big Ten has won the last two national championships, true, but Michigan cheated and Ohio State will always be Ohio State. The Buckeyes spent enormous amounts of money buying players for its 2024 title run, so congrats to the Buckeyes for raiding the rosters of Alabama and Ole Miss for their best players.

Let’s look at this season. We’re a couple weeks away from the finish line. Trends have emerged. There are three really good teams outside of the SEC. They are, in order, Ohio State, Indiana and Texas Tech. The CFP selection committee should put those three teams in the playoff and fill out the rest of the field with the best of the SEC, the ACC champion, Notre Dame and maybe Utah.

That means six teams from the SEC should make the 12-team playoff this season, and I could make an argument for seven before the Big Ten gets three. The Big Ten is a mess of mediocrity and gets worse and worse with every week. The SEC, meanwhile, resembles a miniature version of the NFL this season. Auburn, for example, is one of the worst teams in the conference, but the Tigers look just as good as the Oregon Ducks after last week’s set of games.

Oregon’s struggle win at Iowa was another pathetic display. The Ducks received a major boost in the polls after defeating Penn State back in September, but the Nittany Lions have literally lost every single game since then and fired their coach. Indiana came from behind against Penn State. Who cares? Penn State is terrible. Who has Indiana even played? It’s one cupcake after another up north. Vanderbilt would destroy the Hoosiers, and no one can convince me otherwise.

To his credit, SEC commissioner Greg Sankey saw this coming before the season even started. Sankey and the SEC want to expand the College Football Playoff to 16 teams without any automatic qualifiers beyond the conference champions. That would make it a true competition, the best vs. the best. Notre Dame wants the same. The Big Ten, meanwhile, wants guarantees because the conference’s ultimate plan is to continue raiding the South for top-tier talent.

Yes, that’s right. The Big Ten’s war of northern aggression includes outspending the SEC for all of the South’s best players. With four auto bids to the CFP, it makes the Big Ten’s recruiting pitch that much sweeter. Here’s the thing, though. Kids are not stupid. No one wants to sit on a flight from USC to Rutgers or Oregon to Penn State before and after a football game when they can just go to any school in the SEC and enjoy the best atmospheres in college football and easy travel for their families on game day.

Strength of schedule matters. It will be a crime against the sport of college football if Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia is left out of the College Football Playoff. Vandy has wins against South Carolina, LSU, Missouri and Auburn. Those are all quality teams. Oregon’s best win is … Iowa? Should the Ducks get in over Oklahoma or Alabama? If Alabama loses to the Sooners on Saturday and then Auburn at Jordan-Hare Stadium (very possible) then the Tide might be watching the playoffs from home.

The College Football Playoff selection committee already has a tough enough job convincing the public that it’s not just some kind of cheap marketing gimmick to sell ads on TV. One league is making that job harder. It’s the Big Ten, a flimsy con artist masquerading in a muscle suit.

 

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7 minutes ago, satyanash said:

It will be a crime against the sport of college football if Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia is left out of the College Football Playoff.

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12 hours ago, WBT said:

We'd be punished for losing to Florida and going to OT against Kentucky and Miss St.  That along with another loss would be plenty to show we don't deserve to be there even if we're given the pass for losing to OSU again that all of you seem to think we deserve.

This is such a bad line of reasoning. Yes the Florida loss is an anchor, no denying that.  But those "close wins" don't matter because "wins"

We are ABSOLUTELY being punished for playing OSU, as in...if we had played Rice instead we'd be 8-1 and there's no fucking debate about us being worthy, the loss to Florida and those bad wins taken into account.

The fact is teams like Oregon, Tech/BYU/UTAH and even ND for their joke of a schedule overall, are being rewarded for not playing a tougher schedule, and/or not scheduling tough OOC games.

You can piss and moan about how they've looked against Kentucky(which has been pretty damned good since we beat them, and Miss St) and a loss to a talented if disappointing Florida team, while not also ignoring that Texas is being downplayed because they also lost week one on the road to the best team in the nation.

Something the Committee said it would favorably in .

So yes, they should look at Texas more like a 2 loss team, than a 3 loss when it comes down to it IMO.

33 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Because.............................................

The Committee will ignore whatever they want to get the teams they want in.  ND brings eyeballs.  Texas brings eyeballs. 

And this is a salient point.  In the end if it's between 2 loss Utah/BYU and Texas, they probably will select Texas.  They couldn't do that last year with Bama over SMU because they made HUGE spectacle about any teams already in the top 10 before the CCG's would not lose a spot just for losing that game, or it would make them worthless games(which they are, and I suspect will be done away with soon).

I think the reason they're so down on ACC/Big 12 teams this year overall, is because they don't want the same thing to happen, and have a ACC or Big 12 loser guaranteed a spot.  Might still happen for BYU(and a case could be made to them being worthy with just 2 losses and one in the CCG, but not Utah).

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6 minutes ago, Drew said:

This is such a bad line of reasoning. Yes the Florida loss is an anchor, no denying that.  But those "close wins" don't matter because "wins"

We are ABSOLUTELY being punished for playing OSU, as in...if we had played Rice instead we'd be 8-1 and there's no fucking debate about us being worthy, the loss to Florida and those bad wins taken into account.

The fact is teams like Oregon, Tech/BYU/UTAH and even ND for their joke of a schedule overall, are being rewarded for not playing a tougher schedule, and/or not scheduling tough OOC games.

You can piss and moan about how they've looked against Kentucky(which has been pretty damned good since we beat them, and Miss St) and a loss to a talented if disappointing Florida team, while not also ignoring that Texas is being downplayed because they also lost week one on the road to the best team in the nation.

Something the Committee said it would favorably in .

So yes, they should look at Texas more like a 2 loss team, than a 3 loss when it comes down to it IMO.

And this is a salient point.  In the end if it's between 2 loss Utah/BYU and Texas, they probably will select Texas.  They couldn't do that last year with Bama over SMU because they made HUGE spectacle about any teams already in the top 10 before the CCG's would not lose a spot just for losing that game, or it would make them worthless games(which they are, and I suspect will be done away with soon).

I think the reason they're so down on ACC/Big 12 teams this year overall, is because they don't want the same thing to happen, and have a ACC or Big 12 loser guaranteed a spot.  Might still happen for BYU(and a case could be made to them being worthy with just 2 losses and one in the CCG, but not Utah).

#10 ranked Texas is being punished for losing to dogshit Florida. #1 Texas going to the swamp and losing to unranked Florida drops them and then beyond that they get leapfrogged by everyone else who has performed well. I don't think there's much of a difference in 8-1 Texas and 7-2 Texas from a ranking perspective maybe ahead of ND with only 1 loss, but still not ahead of TTU Georgia etc.

Texas isn't being punished for OSU loss and if they drop 2 in the SEC they will be the first in with 2 losses. 

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

#10 ranked Texas is being punished for losing to dogshit Florida. #1 Texas going to the swamp and losing to unranked Florida drops them and then beyond that they get leapfrogged by everyone else who has performed well. I don't think there's much of a difference in 8-1 Texas and 7-2 Texas from a ranking perspective maybe ahead of ND with only 1 loss, but still not ahead of TTU Georgia etc.

Texas isn't being punished for OSU loss and if they drop 2 in the SEC they will be the first in with 2 losses. 

Never said they aren't.  I was more indignant about the "close wins" BS.  I said they are ALSO being punished for the OSU loss and shouldn't be.  Or not as much.  If it comes down to a 2 loss BYU/UTAH or even a USC being compared to Texas, that OSU loss with be the one they have that kills them, because they "did not have to play them"  That was my point.

I'm not ignoring the Florida loss...just the Florida loss would not be hurting them as much if they hadn't also loss to OSU in the grand scheme of things.

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Just now, Drew said:

Never said they aren't.  I was more indignant about the "close wins" BS.  I said they are ALSO being punished for the OSU loss and shouldn't be.  Or not as much.  If it comes down to a 2 loss BYU/UTAH or even a USC being compared to Texas, that OSU loss with be the one they have that kills them, because they "did not have to play them"  That was my point.

I'm not ignoring the Florida loss...just the Florida loss would not be hurting them as much if they hadn't also loss to OSU in the grand scheme of things.

It would. It's a very very bad loss. 

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If they lose to Florida and Georgia why wouldn't you put OU in if they beat bama? 

Why would you bump ole miss? 

Why would you leave out TAMU even with a loss to Texas? 

Why wouldn't georgia make it? They lost to Alabama. 

Vandy would have an argument if they also didn't have their shit kicked in by Texas. 

2 SEC loss Texas with 1 really bad loss to Florida when everyone else only lost to other playoff teams is fucking bad my dude. 

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Just now, immamac said:

It would. It's a very very bad loss. 

Once again, I said it wouldn't hurt them as much if they didn't have a loss to OSU. That's my whole point.  They didn't have to play that game, they did and the comittee made a point of saying they won't hold that against teams for scheduling high profile OOC games.

Feel like we're saying similar things.

1 loss Texas, even to Florida, would be a shoe in to the playoffs, even if they lose to Georgia and beat aggy.  They are NOT a lock now because of the OSU loss that didn't have to be played, than the Florida loss.  

That's not saying they should have beat Florida and it's not a black eye. Of course it is.

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Just now, Drew said:

Once again, I said it wouldn't hurt them as much if they didn't have a loss to OSU. That's my whole point.  They didn't have to play that game, they did and the comittee made a point of saying they won't hold that against teams for scheduling high profile OOC games.

Feel like we're saying similar things.

1 loss Texas, even to Florida, would be a shoe in to the playoffs, even if they lose to Georgia and beat aggy.  They are NOT a lock now because of the OSU loss that didn't have to be played, than the Florida loss.  

That's not saying they should have beat Florida and it's not a black eye. Of course it is.

They are not a lock with a loss to Florida and Georgia. They are a bubble team just like now. 

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Just now, immamac said:

If they lose to Florida and Georgia why wouldn't you put OU in if they beat bama? 

Why would you bump ole miss? 

Why would you leave out TAMU even with a loss to Texas? 

Why wouldn't georgia make it? They lost to Alabama. 

Vandy would have an argument if they also didn't have their shit kicked in by Texas. 

2 SEC loss Texas with 1 really bad loss to Florida when everyone else only lost to other playoff teams is fucking bad my dude. 

That's assuming a 2 loss OU, which in THAT scenario I wouldn't argue against.  Why are you assuming I'm saying otherwise?

I clearly said a BYU/Utah and maybe USC scenario comparing to them.  Not an OU team that has wins over Michigan, and Tennessee/Bama on the road.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

They are not a lock with a loss to Florida and Georgia. They are a bubble team just like now. 

Oh you're kidding yourself that a 10-2 Texas this year would not be a lock. They absolutely would be. That still means wins over OU/Vandy/Aggy.  C'mon on immamac that's silly.   A loss to Florida and Georgia would not even make it questionable.

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