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23 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

I am just saying that if Penn St. fires Franklin for not beating top teams and then hires Cignetti, who also has had trouble with top teams, and in fact has lost to Penn St. and Franklin, then they are pretty dumb.  Cignetti has done great, is an entertaining asshole. He reminds me of McGuire over at Tech. Cignetti has one big game win on his resume. I believe Mcguire beat Iowa St. and OU , but not sure either were top 10 team.  Anyway , no big shakes, will see how Cig does against tOSU this year. McGuire will play BYU soon enough, they should be a top ten team by then.

He's coached 3 games against top 5 teams and has won 1. That's not bad for anyone, let alone Indiana. Never played PSU. McGuire has never lost fewer than 5 games until this season (where he has one of the most expensive rosters in CFB). And BYU? We talkin bout BYU???

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I've been to State College.  It's the kinda dump you imagine an insular college town in Appalachia would be.  "Penn-tucky."

I've also been to Bloomington.  A college town nestled in the hills of the Midwest.  Norman Rockwell painting.

If Cig stays at IU and can keep it together for a few years, he'll be a goddang LEGEND there.  PSU BMD $$$ can't buy something like that.

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13 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I've been to State College.  It's the kinda dump you imagine an insular college town in Appalachia would be.  "Penn-tucky."

I've also been to Bloomington.  A college town nestled in the hills of the Midwest.  Norman Rockwell painting.

If Cig stays at IU and can keep it together for a few years, he'll be a goddang LEGEND there.  PSU BMD $$$ can't buy something like that.

That’s weird to me, google says the enrollment is 88,000. That number along with the faculty and staff required for that operation makes for a sizable population and would expect a genuine city to have developed. I’ve never been.

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37 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Looks like he didn’t get the Jimbo exemption. These mitigation clauses are usually why these things settle, each side wants a clean beak and to not have to track this stuff. My guess is that they’ll settle for $25-$30M. I wonder who of the other hot seat coaches have the Jimbo exemption? I think Gundy did not have the mitigation clause because it was negotiated down to $15M even after last season.

 

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On 10/13/2025 at 9:13 AM, WBT said:

No one tell him about the buyout they gave Mel Tugger.

Sparty actually started the trend of fully guaranteed contracts that every mindless A.D. fell over themselves to copy.

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Didn't Sparty get out of having to pay Tucker's buyout because he was naughty or something?

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3 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

Ridiculous.  Freeman is not going to be associated with an institution that actively covers up its senior members diddling boys ...

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

That’s weird to me, google says the enrollment is 88,000. That number along with the faculty and staff required for that operation makes for a sizable population and would expect a genuine city to have developed. I’ve never been.

It’s College Station in PA. 

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3 hours ago, ztejas said:

You don't even know what fucking games they played in last season. They didn't play in the B10 title game - Oregon beat PSU. 

Their two losses last season were against the two teams that played in the National Title Game. Wow what an indictment.

Oh excuse me, they lost to tOSU 15-38 to get knocked out of the championship... YOu still angry about the blow comment about suck ass SMU I see. GFY

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3 hours ago, TXpride said:

He's coached 3 games against top 5 teams and has won 1. That's not bad for anyone, let alone Indiana. Never played PSU. McGuire has never lost fewer than 5 games until this season (where he has one of the most expensive rosters in CFB). And BYU? We talkin bout BYU???

The "record against top 10 teams" narratives drive me crazy. Nearly any coach will have a losing record if you only consider those games. There are a few (very few) who have winning records, with Steve Spurrier being an example at 22-15. Nick Saban is another at 37-15. But guess what? Many (most?) of those wins came when their teams were also likely top 10 teams. MOST coaches don't have top 10 quality rosters through their whole careers.


For reference: 

- Darrel Royal's record against top 10 opponents is 19-21-2. 45% wins.
- Mack Brown's record is 10-18 against top 10 opponents. 36% wins.
- Steve Sarkesian's record is 2-8 against top 10 opponents. 20% wins.

What Cignetti has done is remarkable. Can he continue it? I don't know.

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21 minutes ago, SurlyORama said:

- Steve Sarkesian's record is 2-8 against top 10 opponents. 20% wins.

Sark has at least 4 top 10 wins at Texas. I don't think I'm missing any. 

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'24 Michigan, ASU

'25 OU

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3 hours ago, TXpride said:

He's coached 3 games against top 5 teams and has won 1. That's not bad for anyone, let alone Indiana. Never played PSU. McGuire has never lost fewer than 5 games until this season (where he has one of the most expensive rosters in CFB). And BYU? We talkin bout BYU???

BYU is pretty successful in past 50 years. Let's see if they knock off Utah this weekend. Will Probably catapult them into the top 10.

Indiana is paying $20 mm for their roster if not more. They poached 19 players through the portal to reload. They have $13.6 mm in NIL, the 12th largest in the NCAA so they are not exactly the sisters of the poor.  Reports have them spending $62 mm on football. And I'll say it again, Cignetti has beat 1 top ten team. He is a loudmouth blowhard just like Mcguire that is the only comparison I have made between the two. That said we can see how both produced with big buck spending.

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6 hours ago, Alien Octopus said:

What big games besides Oregon has Cignetti won? I don't think the win against that fat retard will be considered a great win by the end of the year.

Indiana looks rugged and physical, or at least they did against Oregon and Illinois. I don't know anything about Indiana or what moves Cignetti, whose name I didn't know until this season, has made, but I'm impressed by what I see.

His team belongs where they are in the rankings this wild, wonderful year. 

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43 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

BYU is pretty successful in past 50 years. Let's see if they knock off Utah this weekend. Will Probably catapult them into the top 10.

Indiana is paying $20 mm for their roster if not more. They poached 19 players through the portal to reload. They have $13.6 mm in NIL, the 12th largest in the NCAA so they are not exactly the sisters of the poor.  Reports have them spending $62 mm on football. And I'll say it again, Cignetti has beat 1 top ten team. He is a loudmouth blowhard just like Mcguire that is the only comparison I have made between the two. That said we can see how both produced with big buck spending.

I don't care what Tech does against BYU, they aren't an elite team. I have no idea what Indiana's NIL situation is, but their highest ranked recruiting class in the last 5 years was #25 in 2022. Their highest ranked portal class since 2022 (the first year of the rankings) was #19 in 2023. Maybe they're throwing around all kinds of money, but none of the rankings reflect that. I don't like Cignetti either, but the guy clearly knows how to fucking coach.

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1 hour ago, TXpride said:

I don't care what Tech does against BYU, they aren't an elite team. I have no idea what Indiana's NIL situation is, but their highest ranked recruiting class in the last 5 years was #25 in 2022. Their highest ranked portal class since 2022 (the first year of the rankings) was #19 in 2023. Maybe they're throwing around all kinds of money, but none of the rankings reflect that. I don't like Cignetti either, but the guy clearly knows how to fucking coach.

He knows how to coach no doubt. 

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2 hours ago, SurlyORama said:

The "record against top 10 teams" narratives drive me crazy. Nearly any coach will have a losing record if you only consider those games. There are a few (very few) who have winning records, with Steve Spurrier being an example at 22-15. Nick Saban is another at 37-15. But guess what? Many (most?) of those wins came when their teams were also likely top 10 teams. MOST coaches don't have top 10 quality rosters through their whole careers.


For reference: 

- Darrel Royal's record against top 10 opponents is 19-21-2. 45% wins.
- Mack Brown's record is 10-18 against top 10 opponents. 36% wins.
- Steve Sarkesian's record is 2-8 against top 10 opponents. 20% wins.

What Cignetti has done is remarkable. Can he continue it? I don't know.

That narrative is why Franklin is unemployed, after being in the playoffs last year. Glad the $2B private equity money has emboldened the Big X. Guess the SEC will have to go bigger.

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25 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

That narrative is why Franklin is unemployed, after being in the playoffs last year. Glad the $2B private equity money has emboldened the Big X. Guess the SEC will have to go bigger.

No. It isn't. He's unemployed because he just lost to UCLA and Northwestern in b2b weeks. I don't think Indiana beating Oregon helped, either. 

His record in big games and ineptitude against top teams was a contributing factor. 

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3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

No. It isn't. He's unemployed because he just lost to UCLA and Northwestern in b2b weeks. I don't think Indiana beating Oregon helped, either. 

His record in big games and ineptitude against top teams was a contributing factor. 

They also broke the bank to steal the DC from Ohio State and brought back a ton from last year’s team including their starting QB.

Now they are 3-3, winless in conference, and it’s impossible for them to meet any of their goals.

The season couldn’t have been teed up better for a national title run and he blew it.

This was a well deserved firing.

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7 hours ago, 'stache said:

That’s weird to me, google says the enrollment is 88,000. That number along with the faculty and staff required for that operation makes for a sizable population and would expect a genuine city to have developed. I’ve never been.

I did a wireless project from Chicago to NYC and basically just lived along I70 and 76 I think. Took a detour one day and thought wow I’ve never seen state college but I feel like I should check it out. Just a dump of a town and the campus was ugly as hell. It was 15 or so years ago though

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8 hours ago, 'stache said:

That’s weird to me, google says the enrollment is 88,000. That number along with the faculty and staff required for that operation makes for a sizable population and would expect a genuine city to have developed. I’ve never been.

Campus-specific enrollment

University Park: 46,723 students, with 6,281 graduate students.

Commonwealth Campuses: Declined to 23,257 students between 2020 and 2024.

Penn State World Campus: Increased to 14,601 students in fall 2024. 

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