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3 hours ago, Quagmire said:


I did enjoy the crowd shots post game they were in disbelief they thought they had it in the bag.

So did I. (think they had it in the bag)

The dumbasses with Horns Down painted on their bodies was particularly sweet to see. Their fans seem to have bought into the Horns down as something that devastates us.

 

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At least we didn't eat it, fuckwads.

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

The thing we circle around is: we know Sark is capable of doing what he did in the 4th quarter all the time if he wants to…but yet he will revert to his default mode. The defensive coordinators he faced as HC at Washington all knew he would not take what a defense gives him. He wants to run what he wants to run like he’s auditioning for something. It’s maddening. When I first learned we had hired sark I read old articles about him in which DC’s he faced offered the harshest criticisms of him about refusing to essentially adapt to the abilities of his offense and to what a defense is giving him. We all know he can do it. But he reverts back to his “I want to run what I want to run with my dudes” default mode. 
 

 

This... 👆

He's done this since his time in Washington. Drove my friends up there nuts. 

I remember thinking on the day he was hired here that maybe the leopard had learned to or was at least willing to change his spots, which unfortunately he hasn't. 

Now he drives us nuts.

No doubt this Saturday he'll start out with 12 personnel. 

Frustrated Fuck My Life GIF

 

 

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4 hours ago, mdmost said:

The defense held MS St to -21 yards on 17 plays on their final 4 drives. The comeback doesn't happen if the defense doesn't play great in the 4th quarter and OT. 

Have to tip the cap to vintage Blake Shape in crunch time. Missed an easy TD on the slant that would have tied it in OT. Then on the final play he just drops the football and takes the sack to seal the game 

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2 hours ago, BillyGoatHill said:

 

This... 👆

He's done this since his time in Washington. Drove my friends up there nuts. 

I remember thinking on the day he was hired here that maybe the leopard had learned to or was at least willing to change his spots, which unfortunately he hasn't. 

Now he drives us nuts.

No doubt this Saturday he'll start out with 12 personnel. 

Frustrated Fuck My Life GIF

 

 

That’s why he should only be an OC. It’s not that he cannot be a HC and OC because he isn’t talented. We know he’s talented. But if he’s also the HC there is NO ONE to rein his ass in on play calling. And that’s the issue. He won’t stop himself from going into Tin Cup mode. There ain’t no one on the field like Saban to say “cut that shit out and get a first down,” 

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20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Have to tip the cap to vintage Blake Shape in crunch time. Missed an easy TD on the slant that would have tied it in OT. Then on the final play he just drops the football and takes the sack to seal the game 

They abandoned the offense that worked pretty good to be overcautious and be devoured. "Victory" offense.

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

I don't blame Endries. I feel he's been good when called upon which is not as often as he should be. He's also wide open at times and Arch is locked into his #1 target. 

the play upthread where Arch throws it OOB to over Wisner's head is a perfect example.  the alignment of the D before the play shows you either Endries or Wingo is gonna be wide open.

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That’s why he should only be an OC. It’s not that he cannot be a HC and OC because he isn’t talented. We know he’s talented. But if he’s also the HC there is NO ONE to reign his ass in on play calling. And that’s the issue. He won’t stop himself from going into Tin Cup mode. There ain’t no one on the field like Saban to say “cut that shit out and get a first down,” 

So he needs someone to be Romeo and tell him if he gets this ball wet, he can’t turn in his card. But they gotta tell him with a sackful of balls next time.

I may watch Tin Cup tomorrow.
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2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

I’ve wondered why Sark didn’t go to a more spread type offense with Quinn as well.

I honestly don't know. For fun I charted us just to see how we produced when in 12 personnel. We ran 35 plays out of the 79 total in 12 personnel. Here is each one

Manning 3 yard run for TD

Wisner 4 yard run

Wisner 4 yard run

Pass 3 yard loss

Screen pass 1 yard loss

Baxter 10 yard run

Baxter 5 yard run

 Shannon 5 yard penalty

Baxter 1 yard run

Manning 5 yard run

Baxter 3 yard run

Baxter 1 yard loss

Livingstone 3 yard TD catch

Wisner fumble 6 yard loss

Wisner 4 yard run

 Wingo 1 yard catch

Wisner 6 yard run

Manning run 1 yard loss

Manning incomplete pass

Mosely 8 yard catch

Wisner run for 0 yards

Manning sacked 8 yard loss

Townsend 5 yard penalty

Livingstone 6 yard TD catch

Manning incomplete pass

Moore 21 yard TD catch

Manning incomplete pass

Livingstone 14 yard catch

Arch incomplete pass

Manning sacked 3 yard loss

Manning 1 yard rush

Manning run for 12 yards injured

Baxter 9 yard run

Mosley 10 yard TD catch

So we gained 92 net yards in 12 personnel. The other 336 yards were gained in 11 or 10 personnel. Now this isn't to say 12 personnel doesn't have it's effectiveness. It does, but in my opinion we need to dial it back a bit. 

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Saturday was a pretty big lesson in the philosophy. Let's wait and see.

I’m not optimistic. This isn’t new. He’s had a QB for 2.5 seasons now that clearly demonstrates greater effectiveness with the spread concept stuff.
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3 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

 

Yep. Hence why Sark needs to pull his head out of his ass, dumb down the playbook for the frosh WR's so they can get valuable playing time, not go into next year shell shocked against Ohio State, or in conference against LSU, aggy, Ole Miss, ou, etc, in case Wingo drops more passes, etc. They need real time against guys on their level. You don't sign the #1 class for mostly the defensive players to get time. It's a travesty that we have Lockett (better, stronger hands than Wingo), Ffrech who has good hands, and McCutcheon (who has yet to drop a pass and can line up next to Moore/Moseley, or even Ffrench can do the same, and also leave your freak of nature TE Nick Townsend on the bench. It's unbelievable. Is this really how he wants to start next season? With 3 new WR's with almost no experience, and a TE with zero experience to go along with Washington who will have had 1 year of experience? I don't get that line of thinking. It's dumb af. 
 

 

 

You may be right but you can’t know this if they haven’t been playing. 

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14 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

You may be right but you can’t know this if they haven’t been playing. 

True, and really it's just projection (although I did see Lockett make 2 catches early in the year, and Ffrench once). Wingo is just so lazy, and I don't get it. He drops easy passes. He had 12 passes thrown to him and he caught 5 for 184 yards. Imagine just catching 8 what that could have done. I know I only saw Lockett catch 2 passes, but the difference in how the two catch passes is almost night and day. But you are right, we won't know until we see them both play meaningful minutes. But imo I just think it's negligent to bring in the #2 overall WR behind Dakorian Moore and just sit him on the bench. No real prep or game time. This circle of trust crap has run its course. Every team we have played have had zero qualms with playing younger guys, whether it be WR or RB, they at least want to get them out there for real game experience, instead of holding on to their RS for whatever reason when we, the fans, and boosters would like to see how these guys match up with their peers in a real game. Only McCutcheon has played in more than 2 games, and that was the first 4 and he caught every ball, and I guess now he's a RS guy, too. 

Sark acts like it's blasphemous if you have more than 4 WR's who can play, and 2 TEs. What happens if  Wingo or Livingstone get hurt? Just toss out those frosh and hooe for the best? That's why these guys should have been rotating at least until conference play to separate them on who's ready and who's not. Moseley had been injured for most of fall camp and early in the season, but Sark plugged him right in. Like, how about giving some of these guys a rest and send out a few new WR's to throw off their DC? Every year since 2022 our PPG have gone down from. 35 to now 26. 

Sorry for the ramble, it's just an annoyance because of preferential treatment for portal guys, but if you're a freshman not named Wingo, enjoy your RS. I thought we might throw in a wrinkle yesterday with Terry taking some snaps, but nope. Those went to Niblett for 1 carry for -2 yds. He doesn't belong at RB, it's  obvious. He can't bruise the DL, he can't cut like Wisner. The best scenario is to use him in 21 personnel or move him out wide before snapping the ball, but even then he has trouble gaining yards. 

I was happy to see Baxter back, but I didn't expect much, which came to fruition, so they just stick with Wisner instead of giving him help all season once Baxter got hurt again. Terry should have been taking snaps anyway just to use as an advantage in the RZ if nothing else. 

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I don't blame Endries. I feel he's been good when called upon which is not as often as he should be. He's also wide open at times and Arch is locked into his #1 target. 

We need to motion him out more.
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11 hours ago, Thatguy said:

You are 100% correct. CFB was never better offensively than when teams were spreading the ball around in my opinion. I think what happened was some players got drafted off spread teams and had to adapt to the NFL style making them look like busts. So highly touted recruits started looking for CFB teams with more NFL concepts and here we are. What is your take on that Slacks? Why are we making offense difficult?

It's weird because the QBs that are running the league RIGHT NOW are all spread offense QBs that have talent. 

Mahommes, Mayfield, Hurts, Maye, Rogers, Love, Prescott, Stroud, Jackson, Allen, Williams... All came from a spread of some sort in college. 

There are plenty of players that come from pro-style college offenses that can't play in the league.

The pro-style College QBs are fading. 

But, yes, The Manning fam picked Sark to train Arch on pro style and to get Arch out of what he likes to do, which is run. Yesterday is a example of exactly why.

If you can QB, imo, you go where you have the chance to make throws. 

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13 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Eh, GDGD was running 3 wides/1TE or 4/5 wides in the 2000s (different routes, similar formations)

GD was ahead of his time. Everyone hated his 'horizontal passing game' that is now a staple in almost every system. He understood the math before most. 

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