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10 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Yep. The whole purpose of 12 personnel is so you can have an advantage in the run game by putting bigger bodies on the field. The reason why 12 sucked so much here the last two years is because the interior O-line can't block. Someone was always getting beat. Either getting pushed in the backfield or beat so quickly that the back had to juke a defender a millisecond after getting the ball. So you have no running advantage and your second TE can't catch passes. So basically you just volunteered a receiving target off the field making it easier to defend you. That's why we were so much better in 11. We ran shitty out of 11 too, but at least we could throw it. Lol

That is only some of the advantage. It like 6 OL package that Sark used to run. That was one of the efficient passing formations for Texas that year. Its also been a killer for the Bears and the Rams this year. The idea is to force the defenses to go larger and then you can pass on them. McVay has stated that. The idea is not just to get larder and smash your head into the defense. The bad blocking part is just a fact of football. There is not a formation that works with bad blocking. This goes to the point that there are no bad formations, there is just bad personnel for particular formations. One of the key personnel requirements of 12 personnel is a true in-line TE.

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20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

That goes for any formation. If you cannot block, you cannot play offense, but that is obvious. Texas did lean on the 6 man OL package with a poor OL early in Sarks tenure. There is an advantage to asking the defense to cover more gaps.

Obviously. But if you can’t block, spread it out and get rid of the ball quickly to minimize such sins and atrocities. I’m glad he picked up a TE he thinks can help, but until the OL is fixed he needs to stay in a college friendly, spread it out, 4 and 5 wide sets, shot gun, and under three second release style offense. Mobile QB will put enough pressure on the D to create some semblance of a running game too. It’s pretty much the Colt 2009 offense when his OL was starting to crumble, though sark can leave out the pure zone read with arch. Given what it seems like we will have going into next year, Emphasize 12 personnel and we lose, spread it out with 11 or zero personnel and we can actually go really far if the skill players can do their thing with Arch getting them the ball in space.

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16 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

Obviously. But if you can’t block, spread it out and get rid of the ball quickly to minimize such sins and atrocities. I’m glad he picked up a TE he thinks can help, but until the OL is fixed he needs to stay in a college friendly, spread it out, 4 and 5 wide sets, shot gun, and under three second release style offense. Mobile QB will put enough pressure on the D to create some semblance of a running game too. It’s pretty much the Colt 2009 offense when his OL was starting to crumble, though sark can leave out the pure zone read with arch. Given what it seems like we will have going into next year, Emphasize 12 personnel and we lose, spread it out with 11 or zero personnel and we can actually go really far if the skill players can do their thing with Arch getting them the ball in space.

In the end nothing works with incompetent blocking. I do not necessarily disagree with you, but I dont think it will get Texas to a title. You can mitigate OL issues, but you are not winning titles just spreading it out in 10 personnel. That early 2000s style of offense will be shut down by competent defenses. There is a reason 12 personnel is the fastest growing formation in the NFL. We will have to wait until the roster is finalized to make a guess as to what offense fits the personnel.

8 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

In the end nothing works with incompetent blocking. I do not necessarily disagree with you, but I dont think it will get Texas to a title. You can mitigate OL issues, but you are not winning titles just spreading it out in 10 personnel. That early 2000s style of offense will be shut down by competent defenses. There is a reason 12 personnel is the fastest growing formation in the NFL. We will have to wait until the roster is finalized to make a guess as to what offense fits the personnel.

i understand, but it's inarguable that Texas became a bubble team for the playoffs moving to 0 or 11 and away from 12 as the predominate formation. it's not because that's the best, but because with the deficiencies Sark had no choice. in the playoff era, you're going to have to be the best team over a series of at least 3 games to win it all, maybe help with match ups (we've not lucked into those the two years we made it). Colt's 2009 team might not have survived a 3 game playoff run like they could have taken one from bama had he not been hurt. saying the same thing I think, but again, if we don't have the OL, he needs to spread it out - there really isn't a choice.

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Looked up Brandon Harris’ college stats. His last year at UNC he threw 1 TD and 8 INTs. Yeah that’s definitely a guy that knows football.

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as far as Harris/Sark I took this from the 9.95 forum bc I thought it explains a lot many of us not convinced that what has been going on with roster turnover and other issues is merely bc it’s the Wild West (and it is but no school is immune from it and every school is dealing with it.)

Harris sounds like a complete boob. It is concerning to me we have a staff comprised of Sark suck ups (most of whom could not be a waterboy on Cig’s staff) and buddies and one grown ass man in Muschamp. That guy is either going to stroke out or punch sark out.

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Damn, Suckeyes got LB Texas desperately wanted...

having a shitty GM will keep us from reaching our potential. we may win one, but we might not. but it's guaranteed we will win less than we can. in my opinion, GM should sit above the HC and be a CDC decision not a Sark one. doubt that will fly in this era of CFB, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up that way in 10+ years.

3 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

having a shitty GM will keep us from reaching our potential. we may win one, but we might not. but it's guaranteed we will win less than we can. in my opinion, GM should sit above the HC and be a CDC decision not a Sark one. doubt that will fly in this era of CFB, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up that way in 10+ years.

One way that might get Harris out of our “hair” and stop being a fly in the margarita machine is for our cigars to SEE schools like Indiana continue to rise and wonder why it’s not happening here. Two Wisconsin is on the rise. I called it. I got dibs. When schools like Indiana make fast strikes and hit on their dudes early it absolutely stands to reason we did not bc of Harris/Sark. There is no other way to see it. Particularly when you look at the schools that are hitting fast and early bc they have experience with the portal. This is no longer in P4 where you just out athlete the other schools. And when you whiff repeatedly on recruits OR don’t develop them or in our case our players met with Harris and determined they needed to leave based on the low dick energy Harris conveyed we have a sincere problem.

used to be portal opens and if we have a slot available kids wanted it. Now it’s the Wild West and they don’t care about the school (those just in it for a paycheck) but if our own players are left feeling from Harris that they need to go when he didn’t mean to convey that damn. This is concerning the type of bullshit we are building behind our team.

Just now, Nicole44 said:

One way that might get Harris out of our “hair” and stop being a fly in the margarita machine is for our cigars to SEE schools like Indiana continue to rise and wonder why it’s not happening here. Two Wisconsin is on the rise. I called it. I got dibs. When schools like Indiana make fast strikes and hit on their dudes early it absolutely stands to reason we did not bc of Harris/Sark. There is no other way to see it. Particularly when you look at the schools that are hitting fast and early bc they have experience with the portal. This is no longer in P4 where you just out athlete the other schools. And when you whiff repeatedly on recruits OR don’t develop them or in our case our players met with Harris and determined they needed to leave based on the low dick energy Harris conveyed we have a sincere problem.

used to be portal opens and if we have a slot available kids wanted it. Now it’s the Wild West and they don’t care about the school (those just in it for a paycheck) but if our own players are left feeling from Harris that they need to go when he didn’t mean to convey that damn. This is concerning the type of bullshit we are building behind our team.

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10 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

having a shitty GM will keep us from reaching our potential. we may win one, but we might not. but it's guaranteed we will win less than we can. in my opinion, GM should sit above the HC and be a CDC decision not a Sark one. doubt that will fly in this era of CFB, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up that way in 10+ years.

Harris is a problem. Confirmed. Sark’s inability to accept blame for anything is a problem. Confirmed. Sark surrounding himself with yes men and pals is a problem bc most of these coaches on his staff I expect to see at a mid tier that is about to get a complete overhaul. If players left here thinking their contributions were not appreciated that is on sark. He should be in the room not this hands off “let me focus on my play calling only please” management style bullshit. Players talk and given a chance to play behind a stable coaching staff with real bonafides and collect a paycheck our targets are opting to play elsewhere. That’s the reality.

7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

One way that might get Harris out of our “hair” and stop being a fly in the margarita machine is for our cigars to SEE schools like Indiana continue to rise and wonder why it’s not happening here. Two Wisconsin is on the rise. I called it. I got dibs. When schools like Indiana make fast strikes and hit on their dudes early it absolutely stands to reason we did not bc of Harris/Sark. There is no other way to see it. Particularly when you look at the schools that are hitting fast and early bc they have experience with the portal. This is no longer in P4 where you just out athlete the other schools. And when you whiff repeatedly on recruits OR don’t develop them or in our case our players met with Harris and determined they needed to leave based on the low dick energy Harris conveyed we have a sincere problem.

used to be portal opens and if we have a slot available kids wanted it. Now it’s the Wild West and they don’t care about the school (those just in it for a paycheck) but if our own players are left feeling from Harris that they need to go when he didn’t mean to convey that damn. This is concerning the type of bullshit we are building behind our team.

Specifically Tech, OU, and aggy continuing to have success while we underperform will definitely get the big cigars attention.

4 minutes ago, Stunns38 said:

Specifically Tech, OU, and aggy continuing to have success while we underperform will definitely get the big cigars attention.

yeah, but our upper management is shit (big donors, president, and regents). we've fucked up more hires than just about any top 5 program. Mark Richt (only slightly below mack brown) is the low point for Georgia the last 25 years. DeBoer makes the playoffs and is near being run off. tOSU doesn't even have a low point the last 25 years. getting their attention means jack shit when it comes to making good decisions at upper levels with respect to Texas football. it sucks, but it's the reality. we will have stellar seasons and stretches that we will tell our grand kids about, but we have always underachieved and we probably always will.

50 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

That is only some of the advantage. It like 6 OL package that Sark used to run. That was one of the efficient passing formations for Texas that year. Its also been a killer for the Bears and the Rams this year. The idea is to force the defenses to go larger and then you can pass on them. McVay has stated that. The idea is not just to get larder and smash your head into the defense. The bad blocking part is just a fact of football. There is not a formation that works with bad blocking. This goes to the point that there are no bad formations, there is just bad personnel for particular formations. One of the key personnel requirements of 12 personnel is a true in-line TE.

As you know Codaxx, 6 O-line and 12 personnel packages only work if you can force the defense to bring extra men into the box to handle the run. That means no 2 safeties over the top and 1v1 coverages on the outside. However, if teams ignore your big packages and simply sit back in coverage, it's all worthless, and might as well run more receivers.

Here is Gawga last year in the SEC Championship game sitting in two deep while we are in 12 personnel. Safeties 12 fucking yards off the ball, giving zero fucks about the run game.

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Here is Georgia this year with Arch still sitting back in coverage while we are in 12 personnel. Again, safeties 12 g-damned yards off the ball, caring as much about the run game as @Nicole44 cares about a relationship with anyone on Surly. Sorry fellas.

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What the Dawgs look like when they respect your 12 personnel. Safety walked up in the box creating space on the outside for receivers.

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Again, if there is no change in how they defend you when you line up with two tight ends on the field(12 personnel), and you are still going to run the football for 30 fucking yards, why would you hamstring your QB in the passing game with less targets? Sark is stubborn about his 12 personnel. That dude loves him some tight ends, but he doesn't have the personnel to run it. So dude runs it anyway, and we all blame the quarterback when dumb ass Sark has Juan Davis and Spencer Shannon in the game, instead of a 3rd receiver. "Why can't he find anyone open?".

That's the kind of shit I was pointing out last year with Quinn but people only wanna listen now that it's Arch, and "he has all the tools", so it can't be him. Yeah, for those that are just tuning in it's been going on for a couple seasons now.

Finally coach gave in and started running way more 11 personnel. That, and a big change in route concepts, is a lot of the reason Arch turned the corner. That said, you know Sark is salivating to go right back to 12 personnel heavy percentages as soon as he thinks we can run it.

@Nicole44 once said, "It's like he is auditioning for the NFL, and I think she is dead on.

Until we fix the interior O-line all of this is shit. Doesn't matter if you have two tight ends out there mauling people if your guard and center are getting ragdolled like Colt was by Ndomukong Suh in the 09 Big12 CCG.

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10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

As you know Codaxx, 6 O-line and 12 personnel packages only work if you can force the defense to bring extra men into the box to handle the run. That means no 2 safeties over the top and 1v1 coverages on the outside. However, if teams ignore your big packages and simply sit back in coverage, it's all worthless, and might as well run more receivers.

Here is Gawga last year in the SEC Championship game sitting in two deep while we are in 12 personnel. Safeties 12 fucking yards off the ball, giving zero fucks about the run game.

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Here is Georgia this year with Arch still sitting back in coverage while we are in 12 personnel. Again, safeties 12 g-damned yards off the ball, caring as much about the run game as @Nicole44 cares about a relationship with anyone on Surly. Sorry fellas.

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What the Dawgs look like when they respect your 12 personnel. Safety walked up in the box creating space on the outside for receivers.

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Again, if there is no change in how they defend you when you line up with two tight ends on the field(12 personnel), and you are still going to run the football for 30 fucking yards, why would you hamstring your QB in the passing game with less targets? Sark is stubborn about his 12 personnel. That dude loves him some tight ends, but he doesn't have the personnel to run it. So dude runs it anyway, and we all blame the quarterback when dumb ass Sark has Juan Davis and Spencer Shannon in the game, instead of a 3rd receiver. "Why can't he find anyone open?".

That's the kind of shit I was pointing out last year with Quinn but people only wanna listen now that it's Arch, and "he has all the tools", so it can't be him. Yeah, for those that are just tuning in it's been going on for a couple seasons now.

Finally coach gave in and started running way more 11 personnel. That, and a big change in route concepts, is a lot of the reason Arch turned the corner. That said, you know Sark is salivating to go right back to 12 personnel heavy percentages as soon as he thinks we can run it.

@Nicole44 once said, "It's like he is auditioning for the NFL, and I think she is dead on.

Until we fix the interior O-line all of this is shit. Doesn't matter if you have two tight ends out there mauling people if your guard and center are getting ragdolled like Colt was by Ndomukong Suh in the 09 Big12 CCG.

Using pre-snap photos of alignment is very 2005 and generally gives you a false idea of the defense. You know that. Your first photo is a 1st and 10 in the Championship game that resulted in a 13 yard pass from Ewers to Golden on an easy pitch and catch out where Golden was 1 on 1 with the NB in man.

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Using pre-snap photos of alignment is very 2005 and generally gives you a false idea of the defense. You know that. Your first photo is a 1st and 10 in the Championship game that resulted in a 13 yard pass from Ewers to Golden.

Geezus dude, you are always so argumentative. Whether or not a single play was successful or not is not important. It is a fact that both this year and last year we were far more effective out of 11 personnel than 12. That is not even up for debate. Go chart the game play by play yourself and you will see that what I am saying is correct.

I don't know what it is about you that when I post, no matter how true it is, you are going to instantly oppose it. I could say the sky is blue and you would say "well actually....".

Just now, Thatguy said:

Geezus dude, you are always so argumentative. Whether or not a single play was successful or not is not important. It is a fact that both this year and last year we were far more effective out of 11 personnel than 12. That is not even up for debate. Go chart the game play by play yourself and you will see that what I am saying is correct.

I don't know what it is about you that when I post, no matter how true it is, you are going to instantly oppose it. I could say the sky is blue and you would say "well actually....".

I am because you post things like a pre-snap look knowing most defenses are based on changing their pre-snap look to fool the QB. That is the basis of modern coverages. Then you do something ridiculous like hoe Georgia plays a GT offense vs the Texas offense, knowing full well the styles of the offenses are completely different. It is like you are looking for reps from people with 0 idea of Xs and Os.

You know for a fact that I was bitching all season to lose 12 personnel, but I am also not going to close my mind to the idea that it could be useful in 2026. That is a something nobody will have a clue on until the roster is complete and even then, it may take a couple games to get an idea. Texas went out in 12 personnel and kicked OU's ass. I did not see that coming and I was wrong on abotu Sark's gameplan there, because I would have called him an idiot for doing it. Going from an insane 20 yard aDot vs Florida to reasonable was an obvious benefit. Sark moved more to the quick game as the season progressed and it was a huge benefit to the offense, but it was a band aid. It was still a bad offense, and we learned that once it faced a real defense. You try to throw down absolutes and ignore that the effectiveness of personnel groupings can vary greatly year over year and even game to game. That was the point of my comment.

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11 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Geezus dude, you are always so argumentative. Whether or not a single play was successful or not is not important. It is a fact that both this year and last year we were far more effective out of 11 personnel than 12. That is not even up for debate. Go chart the game play by play yourself and you will see that what I am saying is correct.

I don't know what it is about you that when I post, no matter how true it is, you are going to instantly oppose it. I could say the sky is blue and you would say "well actually....".

The auditioning for the NFL is what is pissing me off. Treating the team like a half ass NFL franchise that’s loosely run by Harris and Sark and his buddies. I thought we were going to go all in and hit on our biggest targets in the portal. Swing with a mighty bat. Instead the teams that are trying to build a sustainable culture in a crazy landscape hit on their targets immediately and anything else they net is gravy. We did NOT hit on our targets and now are trying to figure out of the 2500 players left how to fill the holes we lost to understandable attrition and outright mismanagement by Harris. On top of which 2027 looks bleak. People ain’t sure if Sark is bolting to the NFL. Because his actions and not his words speak volumes on that. Firing PK and throwing him under the bus for the bulk of our problems while retaining asshat pals who don’t inspire confidence didn’t help. Muschamp isn’t the issue but he was set up to be the HC so sark can retain the title and call the plays with personnel he didn’t target.

The most glaring issue of all was and is OLINE and if we had hit on 3 lineman on day one or two of the portal I would be happy. I’d shut the fuck up. Instead it appears our targets were all shiny weapons that we WHIFFED on while pushing players out the door who may not have understood bc chucklefuck Harris sucks that we wanted them to stay. This sucks and it will take 💯 focus by Sark as a HC to fix. And he doesn’t want to focus on being head coach so you see where this is a fucking problem.

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The auditioning for the NFL is what is pissing me off. Treating the team like a half ass NFL franchise that’s loosely run by Harris and Sark and his buddies. I thought we were going to go all in and hit on our biggest targets in the portal. Swing with a mighty bat. Instead the teams that are trying to build a sustainable culture in a crazy landscape hit on their targets immediately and anything else they net is gravy. We did NOT hit on our targets and now are trying to figure out of the 2500 players left how to fill the holes we lost to understandable attrition and outright mismanagement by Harris. On top of which 2027 looks bleak. People ain’t sure if Sark is bolting to the NFL. Because his actions and not his words speak volumes on that. Firing PK and throwing him under the bus for the bulk of our problems while retaining asshat pals who don’t inspire confidence didn’t help. Muschamp isn’t the issue but he was set up to be the HC so sark can retain the title and call the plays with personnel he didn’t target.

The most glaring issue of all was and is OLINE and if we had hit on 3 lineman on day one or two of the portal I would be happy. I’d shut the fuck up. Instead it appears our targets were all shiny weapons that we WHIFFED on while pushing players out the door who may not have understood bc chucklefuck Harris sucks that we wanted them to stay. This sucks and it will take 💯 focus by Sark as a HC to fix. And he doesn’t want to focus on being head coach so you see where this is a fucking problem.

Don’t explain yourself, so many posters are content with making the playoffs and almost making the playoffs, lol. The late Mack, Charlie, and Herman shit years really made casual fans content with Sark’s performance. lol

5 minutes ago, Stunns38 said:

Don’t explain yourself, so many posters are content with making the playoffs and almost making the playoffs, lol. The late Mack, Charlie, and Herman shit years really made casual fans content with Sark’s performance. lol

That’s cool. We have had two amazing years and scratched the surface of a good one towards the end this year. I’m more concerned about the present and the future and people need to fire that asshole in their heads stat that tells them things are fine based on 2023 and 2024. 2025 is what it looks like when you give Sark the keys to the kingdom with no oversight. 2026 is a work in progress. I went from thinking MNC bc of Arch and the pieces we were building around him to thinking 8-4 in a matter of a few days and possibly 8-4 next year and it doesn’t sit well with me. I cannot predict the future any better than anyone else but I can base it on past results. And had we done the same things we were doing in 2024 to prepare for 2025 I’d have a different outlook and my posts would not be a redundant pissed rant on a loop. I’d see the hope. Instead we retained Flood and Banks and brought in Nansen and fired PK and yes Muschamp is back but he’s one of the only NET positives outside of Arch I can see right now. And I hope to shit I’m wrong but you do not crown a HC until he has won an MNC. Especially one who only wants to play HC while just being a glorified play caller. It totally shows how disorganized the whole outfit is when the HC doesn’t want to do anything else than audition for the NfL with play calls for personnel we don’t have bc he won’t take an active role in keeping the players he recruited. Fuck my life.

3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I am because you post things like a pre-snap look knowing most defenses are based on changing their pre-snap look to fool the QB. That is the basis of modern coverages. Then you do something ridiculous like hoe Georgia plays a GT offense vs the Texas offense, knowing full well the styles of the offenses are completely different. It is like you are looking for reps from people with 0 idea of Xs and Os.

You know for a fact that I was bitching all season to lose 12 personnel, but I am also not going to close my mind to the idea that it could be useful in 2026. That is a something nobody will have a clue on until the roster is complete and even then, it may take a couple games to get an idea. Texas went out in 12 personnel and kicked OU's ass. I did not see that coming and I was wrong on abotu Sark's gameplan there, because I would have called him an idiot for doing it. Going from an insane 20 yard aDot vs Florida to reasonable was an obvious benefit. Sark moved more to the quick game as the season progressed and it was a huge benefit to the offense, but it was a band aid. It was still a bad offense, and we learned that once it faced a real defense. You try to throw down absolutes and ignore that the effectiveness of personnel groupings can vary greatly year over year and even game to game. That was the point of my comment.

Look dude, you are losing focus. The point of the still was to show how they were lining up vs 12 personnel. What does rolling coverages from Cover 2 to 3 or 4 to confuse the QB have to do with anything about the run game? Answer- Nothing.

If a team respects your running game they are going to add a man to the box. Simple as that. Last year ND ran the ball primarily out of 11 personnel. As the game wore on Georgia started walking down a safety to deal with ND's running game.

If you are getting killed in the running game you are not going to keep lining up 12 yards off the ball at the snap. Why are we even having this discussion? Again, in 2026 I am not going to waste time arguing with you. Good running game = more guys in the box. More guys in the box = less guys against the pass. = what makes 12 personnel effective. Unless you are us and can't run the ball no matter what you are in.

I am not "ignoring the effectiveness of personnel groupings". I am saying if you don't have the roster to run what you want run what you can to the best of your ability. Flawed or not.

3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Look dude, you are losing focus. The point of the still was to show how they were lining up vs 12 personnel. What does rolling coverages from Cover 2 to 3 or 4 to confuse the QB have to do with anything about the run game? Answer- Nothing.

If a team respects your running game they are going to add a man to the box. Simple as that. Last year ND ran the ball primarily out of 11 personnel. As the game wore on Georgia started walking down a safety to deal with ND's running game.

If you are getting killed in the running game you are not going to keep lining up 12 yards off the ball at the snap. Why are we even having this discussion? Again, in 2026 I am not going to waste time arguing with you. Good running game = more guys in the box. More guys in the box = less guys against the pass. = what makes 12 personnel effective. Unless you are us and can't run the ball no matter what you are in.

I am not "ignoring the effectiveness of personnel groupings". I am saying if you don't have the roster to run what you want run what you can to the best of your ability. Flawed or not.

Rolling your safety down into the box from a 2 shell certainly affects the run game. You need to stop. I am done with this nonsense

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Rolling your safety down into the box from a 2 shell certainly affects the run game. You need to stop. I am done with this nonsense

And that's exactly what they weren't doing. Did you get hit on the head? What is wrong with you? At no point was Georgia worrying about our running game. You are arguing hypotheticals that didn't happen. Geezus dude everyone and their momma knows we were better out of 11 than 12. Stop.

Motion to have @Codaxx and @Thatguy move their pissing contest out of the thread where we are looking for roster updates and news. Come on guys, let’s try and keep on topic until the portal is closed then you can go back to arguing

1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Motion to have @Codaxx and @Thatguy move their pissing contest out of the thread where we are looking for roster updates and news. Come on guys, let’s try and keep on topic until the portal is closed then you can go back to arguing

100% agreed.

I am never trying to have a pissing contest with him. That dude comes and finds me wherever I post. There are certain posters who just look at the name of the poster and start arguing just because its you.

51 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

And I hope to shit I’m wrong but you do not crown a HC until he has won an MNC.

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37 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The auditioning for the NFL is what is pissing me off. Treating the team like a half ass NFL franchise that’s loosely run by Harris and Sark and his buddies. I thought we were going to go all in and hit on our biggest targets in the portal. Swing with a mighty bat. Instead the teams that are trying to build a sustainable culture in a crazy landscape hit on their targets immediately and anything else they net is gravy. We did NOT hit on our targets and now are trying to figure out of the 2500 players left how to fill the holes we lost to understandable attrition and outright mismanagement by Harris. On top of which 2027 looks bleak. People ain’t sure if Sark is bolting to the NFL. Because his actions and not his words speak volumes on that. Firing PK and throwing him under the bus for the bulk of our problems while retaining asshat pals who don’t inspire confidence didn’t help. Muschamp isn’t the issue but he was set up to be the HC so sark can retain the title and call the plays with personnel he didn’t target.

The most glaring issue of all was and is OLINE and if we had hit on 3 lineman on day one or two of the portal I would be happy. I’d shut the fuck up. Instead it appears our targets were all shiny weapons that we WHIFFED on while pushing players out the door who may not have understood bc chucklefuck Harris sucks that we wanted them to stay. This sucks and it will take 💯 focus by Sark as a HC to fix. And he doesn’t want to focus on being head coach so you see where this is a fucking problem.

Agreed and i will take it one step further-

The O-line has been a problem for Sark's entire tenure here. Bijan masked a lot of the problems at first as well as the general weakness of the Big12. People like to bring up that they got drafted but the problem wasn't if they did or did not have talent. It was that they were a mismatch and therefore struggled against strong opponents. Here is what I mean from left to right. Banks could do both pass pro and run block. Conner was great at pass pro but was getting pushed in the backfield on run plays. Majors struggled handling someone solo in the run game. Campbell was mauling people in the run game but struggled with simple line stunts and such in pass pro. Williams was one of if not the most penalized players in college football and, as we know, prone to whiffing on his assignment in pass pro.

When you build a team you start with a concept. Then you recruit O-linemen that fit your ideology. Michigan says we are going to run the football. So they pick linemen who above all can move people in the run game. As such Michigan has rushed for at least 100 yards vs Ohio State 5 out of 5 times the last 5 years, with a 252 yard performance, and a 297 yard performance in there.

We don't build to an identity. We just grab guys. We had enough in the passing game but Sark can't help but chase shiny objects. We really really really need help on the O-line but here we are. We will likely grab guys just like the old guys and end up struggling to run again this year. We let a couple guys go that we know for a couple hundred thousand to chase a dude that will cost a couple million and we don't know will work out in our system.

We have to fix the interior O-line. It's a must in order to make a deep run.

We have an Olineman visiting for Oregon State that has played for 6 games/444 snaps in total. We are losing dudes who have at least a full year of snaps under their belt for dudes who haven’t played a full season. I think everyone in our portal room is drunk high on crack. Wtf?

Also according to Vogel

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28 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Agreed and i will take it one step further-

The O-line has been a problem for Sark's entire tenure here. Bijan masked a lot of the problems at first as well as the general weakness of the Big12. People like to bring up that they got drafted but the problem wasn't if they did or did not have talent. It was that they were a mismatch and therefore struggled against strong opponents. Here is what I mean from left to right. Banks could do both pass pro and run block. Conner was great at pass pro but was getting pushed in the backfield on run plays. Majors struggled handling someone solo in the run game. Campbell was mauling people in the run game but struggled with simple line stunts and such in pass pro. Williams was one of if not the most penalized players in college football and, as we know, prone to whiffing on his assignment in pass pro.

When you build a team you start with a concept. Then you recruit O-linemen that fit your ideology. Michigan says we are going to run the football. So they pick linemen who above all can move people in the run game. As such Michigan has rushed for at least 100 yards vs Ohio State 5 out of 5 times the last 5 years, with a 252 yard performance, and a 297 yard performance in there.

We don't build to an identity. We just grab guys. We had enough in the passing game but Sark can't help but chase shiny objects. We really really really need help on the O-line but here we are. We will likely grab guys just like the old guys and end up struggling to run again this year. We let a couple guys go that we know for a couple hundred thousand to chase a dude that will cost a couple million and we don't know will work out in our system.

We have to fix the interior O-line. It's a must in order to make a deep run.

We won’t fix it with guys who have barely played a full season. Guys that we didn’t want to recruit and now have to fill holes with.

Question for the peanut gallery: if building a team the right way is thru recruiting and using the portal to fill gaps why in year six are we doing a complete overhaul of dudes we recruited? This isn’t simply dudes wanting a paycheck, we are pushing fuckers out that we selected. And not only that we are a day late and a dollar short on getting the primary olineman we needed to make a deep run. 🏃‍♀️ the fuck?

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I don’t understand the exodus. Are we poor?

Part of it is a Harris/Sark combination. The other part of this is yes most schools are dealing with this shit. The difference is the schools that routinely use the portal to build on and survive got in and out clean exit with their targets and we are caught flat footed bc we focused on 3 or so big names that are not oline dudes with experience and we whiffed on those names because we do not have a competent oline nor a competent oline coach. Say you are a bad ass WR or TE or RB. And lots of schools can afford you. You see Arch and think cool I can play with that guy and I will get a lot of NFL attention and sark is calling the plays. Cool. Then you see our Oline or lack there of and realize you may get killed. No amount of money is worth that if you are mortally wounded before you can even be drafted.

37 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Agreed and i will take it one step further-

The O-line has been a problem for Sark's entire tenure here. Bijan masked a lot of the problems at first as well as the general weakness of the Big12. People like to bring up that they got drafted but the problem wasn't if they did or did not have talent. It was that they were a mismatch and therefore struggled against strong opponents. Here is what I mean from left to right. Banks could do both pass pro and run block. Conner was great at pass pro but was getting pushed in the backfield on run plays. Majors struggled handling someone solo in the run game. Campbell was mauling people in the run game but struggled with simple line stunts and such in pass pro. Williams was one of if not the most penalized players in college football and, as we know, prone to whiffing on his assignment in pass pro.

When you build a team you start with a concept. Then you recruit O-linemen that fit your ideology. Michigan says we are going to run the football. So they pick linemen who above all can move people in the run game. As such Michigan has rushed for at least 100 yards vs Ohio State 5 out of 5 times the last 5 years, with a 252 yard performance, and a 297 yard performance in there.

We don't build to an identity. We just grab guys. We had enough in the passing game but Sark can't help but chase shiny objects. We really really really need help on the O-line but here we are. We will likely grab guys just like the old guys and end up struggling to run again this year. We let a couple guys go that we know for a couple hundred thousand to chase a dude that will cost a couple million and we don't know will work out in our system.

We have to fix the interior O-line. It's a must in order to make a deep run.

No doubt about it but how?? Unless Flood thinks he can convert a T to G. Even Connor "fing" Stroh is ranked higher than any G Texas has a legitimate shot at. Texas better get dirty and start calling players not in the portal.

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2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Geezus dude, you are always so argumentative. Whether or not a single play was successful or not is not important. It is a fact that both this year and last year we were far more effective out of 11 personnel than 12. That is not even up for debate. Go chart the game play by play yourself and you will see that what I am saying is correct.

I don't know what it is about you that when I post, no matter how true it is, you are going to instantly oppose it. I could say the sky is blue and you would say "well actually....".

He’s an autistic number cruncher

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I mean most people don’t buy into rankings of anything (recruits, the portal, regular weekly rankings) unless it’s the poll/rankings that we need to make the CFP but…

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Sadly the transfer portal UT list is going to have more players added to the OUT category by the end of the day.

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The Nicole Post Frequency on Thread Quality Impact theory continues to gain supporting data.

4 hours ago, Stunns38 said:

Specifically Tech, OU, and aggy continuing to have success while we underperform will definitely get the big cigars attention.

All 3 got bounced from the playoffs round one and we beat two of them soooooo

Surprising Lefau to Colorado.

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I don’t understand the exodus. Are we poor?

It’s happening at a lot of programs. People need to open up their field of vision and realize it’s a systemic issue.

1 minute ago, NBHorn7 said:

Surprising Lefau to Colorado.

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No doubt he'll portal somewhere else in 2027. Going to BYU, I get. There is no future at CU.

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

All 3 got bounced from the playoffs round one and we beat two of them soooooo

Soooooo, our big cigars know their big cigars. It’s a pissing contest. Doesn’t matter if they lost, they made it to the playoffs, we didn’t. To them, they need to up their $$ games. To us non casual fans, we know we’re better than those teams and don’t give a fuck about them making the playoffs. You must be poor

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I don’t understand the exodus. Are we poor?

It's a business now, and how you manage that business and the quality of your product or service you offer determines your success.

We aren't poor, but it's like Texas doesn't know how to manage the business.

We will see how it all shakes out.

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

No doubt he'll portal somewhere else in 2027. Going to BYU, I get. There is no future at CU.

Yeah this is an insane move from him, no idea why he would want to step down in competition and in program that big. Maybe just wants to chill and smoke weed in college then not go pro?

All the talk about personal, to me it comes down to the offensive line. I just don’t understand heavy run sets with a dog shit OL. You got to go quick passing and screen game with 00, 10, or 20 personnel and get speed all over the field so you can spread the defense out. Unless your TE is an awesome pass catcher I wouldn’t even bother trying to get numbers and run all the time when the OL can’t block for shit.

Our best RB last year was Arch. That needs to change as well, but a big part of it is because we’re running draw or he’s scrambling. This team with this shitty OL isn’t lining up and running power on people.

6 minutes ago, Stunns38 said:

Soooooo, our big cigars know their big cigars. It’s a pissing contest. Doesn’t matter if they lost, they made it to the playoffs, we didn’t. To them, they need to up their $$ games. To us non casual fans, we know we’re better than those teams and don’t give a fuck about them making the playoffs. You must be poor

They are not envious of teams that we dominated and then embarrassed themselves in the playoffs. You must be retarded.

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