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This is the kind of training that NATO and the US needs.

 

For the first time in NATO's history, the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine led, planned, coordinated, and managed the opposing force (OPFOR) during the REPMUS/Dynamic Messenger 25 exercises held in Portugal.

The training incorporated modern trends in naval warfare, particularly the use of unmanned systems for coordinated strikes and rapid response to emerging threats.

This year's exercises combined REPMUS - the world's leading event in maritime robotics and unmanned technologies - with Dynamic Messenger (DYMS), which is part of NATO's series of operational exercises.

During the exercises, unmanned platforms were integrated into the DELTA combat system used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The integration was carried out according to the new NATO standard STANAG 4817, the testing of which was also one of the key goals of the exercise - namely, to verify interoperability, test unmanned systems under various conditions (including electronic warfare), and train operators.

Alongside Ukraine, the REPMUS/DYMS 2025 exercises involved naval forces, enterprises, and research centers from 26 partner nations, as well as representatives from NATO's Maritime Command (MARCOM) in Northwood, the NATO Centre for Maritime Research and Experimentation (CMRE), the Laboratory of Underwater Systems and Technologies at the University of Porto (LSTS), and the NATO Maritime Unmanned Systems Initiative (MUSI).

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

King Of The Hill No GIF

[Q]: Have you made a decision on whether to supply Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine or sell them to NATO and let them sell them to Ukraine?

President Trump: Yeah, I've sort of made a decision, pretty much. I think I want to find out what they're doing with them. You know, where are they sending them. I guess I'd have to ask that question.

I don't know if to use the Rage or Laughing emoji for your rep on this one. 

JFC. 

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7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

King Of The Hill No GIF

[Q]: Have you made a decision on whether to supply Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine or sell them to NATO and let them sell them to Ukraine?

President Trump: Yeah, I've sort of made a decision, pretty much. I think I want to find out what they're doing with them. You know, where are they sending them. I guess I'd have to ask that question.

Just when I thought I knew how dumb that sumbitch is, I see this post that proves me wrong.

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33 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I don't know if to use the Rage or Laughing emoji for your rep on this one. 

JFC. 

If he had said something like "well, you know, Tomahawks are not the ideal missile for Ukraine because of the normal launch platforms, so maybe we can sell Tomahawks to our allies who have the capability to use them, and could use them to replace other systems that are better suited for Ukraine, and send those systems to Ukraine" I would have been slightly impressed that he thought that far ahead.

But if Ukraine ends up with them and he finds out where they are going to use them, I could see him telling some reporter "Well you know, Ukraine has those Tomahawks, and they figured out how to use them and they are going to launch them from these locations, and they plan on targeting these targets in Russia so any Russians living there better be careful."

edit: These are the kinds of systems that would be used to launch them on land:

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

I don't know if to use the Rage or Laughing emoji for your rep on this one. 

JFC. 

all posrep is worth the same so use one that hasn't already been done.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

You could give them a fully equipped carrier with no instructions and they’d be bombing the fuck out out Crimea within a few weeks.

Crimea is a weird way to spell Moscow.

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Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

If there’s any military on earth where your could drop off a bunch of equipment on the border and say “figure it out” It’s the Ukrainians.

You could give them a fully equipped carrier with no instructions and they’d be bombing the fuck out out Crimea within a few weeks.

Weren't the Russians gonna sell their shitbox carrier?  A willing middleman/weapons trader could do the funniest thing...

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10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Weren't the Russians gonna sell their shitbox carrier?  A willing middleman/weapons trader could do the funniest thing...

I bet we could find one. I would look in Malta or Athens. Maybe Dubai. 

Name it the BevoSki. 

Can someone make the UT BEVO flag into a Pirate emblem? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Weren't the Russians gonna sell their shitbox carrier?  A willing middleman/weapons trader could do the funniest thing...

It’s gonna get scrapped. They had too many problems with it.  I don’t think they could really move it anywhere. Hell, the crew is fighting as infantry in Ukraine.

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The fire at the Feodosia oil depot, struck by Ukrainian drones on the night of October 6, remains active. Flames have spread to additional storage tanks, with four large ones now at risk. Tanks marked in red were hit in previous strikes, while those in yellow are threatened as the fire risks spreading to two more.

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This will hopefully piss off Trump since it's a jab at the US.

A “Moscow Format” meeting is underway in Moscow with Afghan Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in attendance, his first visit since Russia officially recognized the Taliban government in July. Lavrov stated that any foreign military infrastructure in Afghanistan is unacceptable and discussed prospects for bilateral relations.

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37 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So what percent of Russia's refinery capacity is within Ukrainian range?  How many drones and missiles would it take to visit ALL of those refinerles?

@PTINS may have the numbers, but it's a lot.  And the two refineries on this map below Moscow, and the two near Sochi may have been hit since since this article came out in August.

Ukraine Is Systematically Striking All Major russian Refineries At Distance of Up to 1000 km (Map) | Defense Express

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And the Ukrainians are putting pressure all across the oil & gas infrastructure - pipelines, pumping stations, fuel depots (Russia doesn't have as much static storage I believe), refineries, etc., so it's a lot of chaos- even if a refinery is up and running, it may not be able to receive enough to stay running 24/7 or it may not be able to push much downstream if the pumping stations or fuel depots are offline.

And they will fall back to rail, but damage to railways/engines has been happening here and there and Russia can't get their trains too close to Ukraine these days.

 

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Posted (edited)

Fuck your birthday fuck you

Here's a cruise missile, fuck you

Blowing up a refinery, "president" Putin

Fuck your birthday, and fuck you

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15 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

I don't know if to use the Rage or Laughing emoji for your rep on this one. 

JFC. 

I went with the drool one, because he is so fucking stupid.

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Konstantin says that he spoke with a Russian acquaintance who owns a freight company who confirmed that they are not shipping anything right now - - because his trucks can’t buy enough fuel to ship the contracted goods - - and even if they have enough gas to go on a delivery, they may not be able to buy gas to get back.

Is that good? Because that doesn’t seem like it’s a good thing. 

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6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I went with the drool one, because he is so fucking stupid.

Hopefully Russia keeps clowning him.

For whatever reason, he actually understands that wrecking Russia’s oil & gas infrastructure is actually a winning strategy.

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10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’s gonna get scrapped. They had too many problems with it.  I don’t think they could really move it anywhere. Hell, the crew is fighting as infantry in Ukraine.

Correction. They were fighting as infantry in Ukraine. It's doubtful many are alive today.

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This was absolutely brilliant. Ukes knew boot up and target acquisition time on Russian AA, even knew exactly where to hit, and the time it took valves to close. This was Russia's big chemical plant that makes the propellent for rocket engines, and ammonium nitrate for artillery shells.

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45 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

This was absolutely brilliant. Ukes knew boot up and target acquisition time on Russian AA, even knew exactly where to hit, and the time it took valves to close. This was Russia's big chemical plant that makes the propellent for rocket engines, and ammonium nitrate for artillery shells.

CHIEF

I saw another recent video describing how Russia is getting a large amount of their artillery shells from North Korea due to Russian inability to manufacture enough on their own, and this is before the destruction of the ammonia facility.

Just like NATO providing older kit to Ukraine, it turns out that North Korea is not willing to give Putin their good stuff, but are instead giving them their older artillery shells.   Apparently 50% of fired Nork shells are duds, rather significantly impacting the effectiveness of Russian artillery.

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49 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

This was absolutely brilliant. Ukes knew boot up and target acquisition time on Russian AA, even knew exactly where to hit, and the time it took valves to close. This was Russia's big chemical plant that makes the propellent for rocket engines, and ammonium nitrate for artillery shells.

CHIEF

the content is interesting, but goddamn I cannot stand the AI voiceover that has become endemic to YT

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On 10/5/2025 at 7:50 PM, atomheartbevo said:

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Ukraine doing work tonight, multiple power plants inside of Russia, one of the largest fuel depots in Crimea, air base in Crimea.

This is the second thermal power plant - Klintsy

This is the first - Luch Thermal Power Plant

 

 

Why does Russia call them "Thermal Power Plants"? Do they also generate electricity by freezing things?

I must of missed forgot most of those lectures.  I remember as you approach Absolute Zero, theoretically the coldest possible temperature, molecular motion essentially stops and a system reaches its lowest energy state. Kind of how I felt after watching the Florida game.

The Klintsy Power Plant is actually in Bryansk Oblast, not Belgorod Oblast. Bryansk is adjacent to Ukraine and Belarus, further to the northwest.

The Belgorod "Luch substation" includes a smallish gas fired power plant, along with the necessary electrical switchgear to connect to the grid.  This would be the definition of a surgical strike in the middle of the city. Somebody had good intel to know the places where to hit them that would black-out the whole city, or they got lucky.

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Belgorod is kind of the logistics hub of the wagon wheel for Russia fucking around with Kharkiv and supplying Luhansk and  Donetsk.  The more damage Ukraine causes in Belgorod, the better.

 

16 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is better than any thing I've seen elsewhere on the subject.

Crazy that 3 of the top 4 refineries have been hit multiple times - where air defense at?

Hey @PTINS 2,000 miles from the Ukrainian border

 

Thanks!

Atomheartbevo, you get the Gold Star.

My earlier posts were not 100% accurate. The Socar Antipinsky Refinery near Tyumen, actually had in accident in January 2022, before Russia invaded Ukraine. As it was prewar, is was a big "who cares?" It is the icon on the screenshot below, about halfway of the red line.

Shit happens fast around here.

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Can’t believe Su-25s are still around.  
 

 

That's a bad ass paint job on the helmet.

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:


The fire at the Feodosia oil depot, struck by Ukrainian drones on the night of October 6, remains active. Flames have spread to additional storage tanks, with four large ones now at risk. Tanks marked in red were hit in previous strikes, while those in yellow are threatened as the fire risks spreading to two more.

The tanks in yellow in the post above are what is burning now.

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Nausea, Headaches and Coughing: Locals Complain Amid Crimean Oil Refinery Fire Caused By Ukrainian Strike

A major fire at an oil refinery [terminal/depot] n Russian-annexed Crimea has sparked complaints from local residents, raising concerns over safety and environmental impact. Kyiv's forces reported a “successful strike” on an offshore oil terminal near the Black Sea port town of Feodosia on Monday, sparking a fire that prompted local authorities to evacuate over 1,100 people.

But while local officials claimed that “no harmful substances were detected in repeated air samples,” residents continue to complain about air quality.
“Nausea, headaches, coughing in the morning — was that all just a dream? Only the rain helped us today,
” Irina Kapeka, a resident of Feodosia, posted on Thursday in the local VKontakte group Podslushano Feodosia, referring to the authorities' assurances that the air was safe to breathe.
Another woman, Inna Radchenko, commented on VKontakte: “It’s strange they [the authorities] haven’t declared this air to be beneficial.

The town has implemented a municipal-level state of emergency. As of Wednesday, traffic around the oil depot was restricted, with vehicles being diverted to alternate routes, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency said. 

3 hours ago, Parliament said:

So what percent of Russia's refinery capacity is within Ukrainian range?  How many drones and missiles would it take to visit ALL of those refinerles?

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 I'm glad I played Risk. Russia is fucking Huge?Screenshot of Russian refineries, 21 have been hit (orange) and 3 have not been hit (yellow), yet.
 

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 The red line is 2,700 miles, about the distance from Los Angeles to New York, or from Ukraine to the Rosneft Angarsk Refinery, north of central Mongolia. My guess is Ukraine smuggled troops and drones into eastern Russia and attacked from there, their "Doolittle '30 seconds over Tokyo' Raid."

There was a story on the Kerch Bridge attack after it happened; Ukraine routing a truck with fake manifests, full of explosives, through multiple countries, timed to be on the bridge at the same time as a Unit Train of oil tank cars, and boom! 

The combination of Ukraine targeting and hitting specific process towers within the refinery, and the lack of Russian air defences proximate to the refineries, my guess is it would not take that many drones and missiles to cripple the motor fuel capabilities.   

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but Ukraine has flipped the switch ... destroying the invaders capacity to make war.

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The Blue and Yellow in kind of symbolic, don't you think?

Ukraine has been very deliberate, and systematic in their approach to attacking refineries the past few months.  I really enjoy seeing smart people thinking, and analyzing, and extrapolating outcomes, before they do something.

Ukraine's ingenuity has been pegging the meter for a long time.

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2 hours ago, CHIEF said:

This was absolutely brilliant. Ukes knew boot up and target acquisition time on Russian AA, even knew exactly where to hit, and the time it took valves to close. This was Russia's big chemical plant that makes the propellent for rocket engines, and ammonium nitrate for artillery shells.

CHIEF

40 sec in they say the Ukrainians have some kinda "electric refueler drone" that can somehow beam electricity into attack drones on the go?  Good Lord, Man.

And all the brilliant tactical/strategic hits suggest to me the US is doing all they can to provide satellite intel and mission planning help?

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2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

40 sec in they say the Ukrainians have some kinda "electric refueler drone" that can somehow beam electricity into attack drones on the go?  Good Lord, Man.

And all the brilliant tactical/strategic hits suggest to me the US is doing all they can to provide satellite intel and mission planning help?

Does anyone know what facility(s) process Ivan’s aviation fuel?   For that matter, that electronic refueling capability should be used on drone missions to destroy fighter bombers dropping the glide bombs that destroy apartments and hospitals and utility targets.

I haven’t heard about an airfield strike on modern fighter bombers recently.  So many targets, so little time.   But I would think with winter approaching Ukraine needs to focus on protecting it’s power plant and grid assets, just as it seeks to degrade Russia’s.  

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47 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Why does Russia call them "Thermal Power Plants"?

In some places they produce steam that is piped around the city for heat.

Steam->Heat is more efficient than steam->turbine->electricity->wire->heater

The US Navy seems to like doing this on bases as well.

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1 minute ago, blacklab said:

In some places they produce steam that is piped around the city for heat.

Steam->Heat is more efficient than steam->turbine->electricity->wire->heater

The US Navy seems to like doing this on bases as well.

Yes, and smaller microgrids to augment specific sections of bases. Army is doing it as well. 

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I haven’t heard about an airfield strike on modern fighter bombers recently.  So many targets, so little time.   But I would think with winter approaching Ukraine needs to focus on protecting it’s power plant and grid assets, just as it seeks to degrade Russia’s.  

True, but it feels like Ukraine has somewhat more attack capacity now.  Might be able to do both.

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1 minute ago, Parliament said:

True, but it feels like Ukraine has somewhat more attack capacity now.  Might be able to do both.

I still think a flight of 30 flamingos at each of St. Petersburg and Moscow largest power generation facilities and grids would overload any air defenses, and make for a freezing winter.   Power plants knocked out before the snow comes down is better for PR, as Russia says it can replace everything and nothing was hurt in the first place.

I know that fuel restrictions in the two major elite cities is having some effect, but it took starving the rural territories of gas before it wound up impacting the major population centers.   I know nothing, but it seems to me the direct route of making St. Petersburg and Moscow as unlivable as possible would have the greatest effect in the shortest period of time to topple Putin.

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23 minutes ago, blacklab said:

In some places they produce steam that is piped around the city for heat.

Steam->Heat is more efficient than steam->turbine->electricity->wire->heater

The US Navy seems to like doing this on bases as well.

using the power plant for steam heat in other buildings is something that can drive the efficiency of a combined cycle gas plant efficiency above 60%. something you really can't do much with nuke plants because they're out in the sticks. nukes tend to be much less efficient than gas plants for that reason (and waste heat is a serious problem with nuke plants).

 

but anything that uses heat as the primary source of energy is a thermal power plant. coal, gas, nuke, even molten salt solar are all thermal. so the reference here is probably just cultural usage. 

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4 hours ago, CHIEF said:

This was absolutely brilliant. Ukes knew boot up and target acquisition time on Russian AA, even knew exactly where to hit, and the time it took valves to close. This was Russia's big chemical plant that makes the propellent for rocket engines, and ammonium nitrate for artillery shells.

CHIEF

Doesn't this seem like a lot of inside information really quickly?  Does that strike anyone else as odd?  

Why would they want to drag their balls across Russia's face with this, unless all this was compromised already?  

 

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1 hour ago, elfenix said:

using the power plant for steam heat in other buildings is something that can drive the efficiency of a combined cycle gas plant efficiency above 60%. something you really can't do much with nuke plants because they're out in the sticks. nukes tend to be much less efficient than gas plants for that reason (and waste heat is a serious problem with nuke plants).

 

but anything that uses heat as the primary source of energy is a thermal power plant. coal, gas, nuke, even molten salt solar are all thermal. so the reference here is probably just cultural usage. 

I think it's fairly common in Eastern Europe/Former USSR and Republics. 

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I still think a flight of 30 flamingos at each of St. Petersburg and Moscow largest power generation facilities and grids would overload any air defenses, and make for a freezing winter.   Power plants knocked out before the snow comes down is better for PR, as Russia says it can replace everything and nothing was hurt in the first place.

I know that fuel restrictions in the two major elite cities is having some effect, but it took starving the rural territories of gas before it wound up impacting the major population centers.   I know nothing, but it seems to me the direct route of making St. Petersburg and Moscow as unlivable as possible would have the greatest effect in the shortest period of time to topple Putin.

Moscow and St. Petersburg are locked up pretty tightly with anti-aircraft (which is why so many other Russian sites are getting  hammered). All they have to do is shut down pipelines/pumping facilities that are sending fuel to Moscow and St. Petersburg and they can accomplish shutting down the cities.

It would be sexier to hit the power plants within the two major cities, but gradually bringing a lot of their grid to a crawl makes Putin look worse in some ways - a slow-moving trainwreck he couldn't stop.

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Moscow and St. Petersburg are locked up pretty tightly with anti-aircraft (which is why so many other Russian sites are getting  hammered).

Yup. True.  But I think there is a certain psychological aspect to having ICBMs launched at your city with the best result, being a flamingo being shut down by your local missile defense.

Moscow residents need to hear air raid warning sirens as well.

mostly, I want to see if they can knock down 30 of them at once or slightly staggered.

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2 hours ago, Parliament said:

40 sec in they say the Ukrainians have some kinda "electric refueler drone" that can somehow beam electricity into attack drones on the go?  Good Lord, Man.

And all the brilliant tactical/strategic hits suggest to me the US is doing all they can to provide satellite intel and mission planning help?

That video is someone’s audition for writing movies. I read sci-fi that is more believable than that video. 

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Yup. True.  But I think there is a certain psychological aspect to having ICBMs launched at your city with the best result, being a flamingo being shut down by your local missile defense.
Moscow residents need to hear air raid warning sirens as well.
mostly, I want to see if they can knock down 30 of them at once or slightly staggered.
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38 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Yup. True.  But I think there is a certain psychological aspect to having ICBMs launched at your city with the best result, being a flamingo being shut down by your local missile defense.

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