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1 hour ago, krevo said:

The 365 line of guns is amazing.  Whats the born on date on yours?  (should be on the box)  The first gen had some firing pin issues and possibly trigger/safety issues but I believe the recent models are all good.  My XL was built around March of 2020.  They are damn near impossible to find but you can get one if you dont mind ordering online and waiting. 

Holster recommedations...I bought a cheapy on Amazon because it had a good clip and was molded kydex instead of injection molded plastic.  There are probably 20 different options available for the 365 on Amazon with prime shipping.  For the XL - I carry mine appendix but the 365 I would honestly carry in the pocket.  They make some nice pocket holsters for the 365 as well.

23-NOV, 2019

So what specifically do I need to watch out for?  It's going to the range this weekend and every weekend after.  I disassembled it last night.  Minor oiling.  Nothing too crazy.  Then sat down with both kids.  Let them handle.  Dry fire.  Get acquainted with, etc.  Daughter (12yr) holds pistols higher on the slide, so the 2-tone helps visually to keep her hands lower and off the slide.  

I think I want to go with kydex to start, especially in the hotter months with less clothing.  Then pocket/jacket carry when cooler.  Thanks for the feedback.  I want to be comfortable with each option.  

Cell phone - check

Keys - check

Concealed carry - check

Ironically, none of my friends have been told.  I don't want anyone to know and keep it that way.  Just you old farts! 

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3 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

@krevo, dammit you got me.  So I went to three different places in the Metroplex searching for the XL.  No luck.  But I did come home with a two-tone P365.  S&W Shield will either become a truck gun or just a safe queen backup.

Got it at Scheels in The Colony.  It's so small I was messing with my wife.  Sales guy knew my angle and played along to his credit.  Had on jeans from church and took my over-sized cell phone out, turned around, put the gun in pocket and the cell in the other, turned back around and asked her to tell me which pocket had the gun and which the phone.  They print the same.  I"m still trying to wrap my head around 10 rounds.  Read online the mag was designed first, and three patents later, they then built the gun around it.  

Now I need holster reqs if anyone has any suggestions?

*internet pic below, but mine is identical*

 

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I have a Desantis Nemesis for pocket carry. Can carry in jeans, cargo shorts, whatever. And like you found out, it prints the same as a phone. 

https://www.amazon.com/Gunhide-Nemesis-Pocket-Holster-Ambidextrous/dp/B07PMTTH71

Vedder LighTuck for IWB carry. 

https://www.vedderholsters.com/lighttuck/

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3 minutes ago, Fuck Tim Beck said:

I have a Desantis Nemesis for pocket carry. Can carry in jeans, cargo shorts, whatever. And like you found out, it prints the same as a phone. 

https://www.amazon.com/Gunhide-Nemesis-Pocket-Holster-Ambidextrous/dp/B07PMTTH71

Vedder LighTuck for IWB carry. 

https://www.vedderholsters.com/lighttuck/

OK, those are 2 outstanding options.  That Vedder was exactly what I had in mind.  Thanks!

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17 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

23-NOV, 2019

So what specifically do I need to watch out for?  It's going to the range this weekend and every weekend after.  I disassembled it last night.  Minor oiling.  Nothing too crazy.  Then sat down with both kids.  Let them handle.  Dry fire.  Get acquainted with, etc.  Daughter (12yr) holds pistols higher on the slide, so the 2-tone helps visually to keep her hands lower and off the slide.  

I think I want to go with kydex to start, especially in the hotter months with less clothing.  Then pocket/jacket carry when cooler.  Thanks for the feedback.  I want to be comfortable with each option.  

Cell phone - check

Keys - check

Concealed carry - check

Ironically, none of my friends have been told.  I don't want anyone to know and keep it that way.  Just you old farts! 

nov 2019 means your pistol should be clear of any of the original issues/recalls.  

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15 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

After having camped and hiked with my 9mm at my side this weekend as bear protection, I’ve come to the conclusion that I need to buy a Glock 40 10mm. 
ive also seen where people put harder barrels in them and fire hot loads. Not sure how necessary that might be. Also not sure that the double stacked mag is necessary. Bear won’t be giving me a chance to shoot 15(16). 

I love my G40.  I have the MOS system with a Vortex sight attached, but only because I hunt with it.  It's very comfortable to shoot once you pick the right back strap to fit your hand.

If you want something a little more carry friendly, look at the G20 - Smaller but good capacity.  

Even the G29 would be better than a 9mm for your application.  You'd loose some velocity b/c of the shorter barrel but its still a formidable option.

Unless you are handloading and pushing the edges, the standard barrel is fine.  You can can get relatively hot penetrating / dangerous game rounds from Buffalo Bore or Underwood and feel good about them. 

I also have 10mm revolvers - None of the above suggested by other posters would be a bad choice. 

Hell, buy one of each!

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Yeah, but I have only averaged 1 firearm each year there for 6 or 7 years, plus some magazine orders in between.

Am on the notification list for a 9mm Ruger PC Carbine though.

Do you get the e-mails?  You’re a preferred customer trust me.

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49 minutes ago, Reagan1k said:

I love my G40.  I have the MOS system with a Vortex sight attached, but only because I hunt with it.  It's very comfortable to shoot once you pick the right back strap to fit your hand.

If you want something a little more carry friendly, look at the G20 - Smaller but good capacity.  

Even the G29 would be better than a 9mm for your application.  You'd loose some velocity b/c of the shorter barrel but its still a formidable option.

Unless you are handloading and pushing the edges, the standard barrel is fine.  You can can get relatively hot penetrating / dangerous game rounds from Buffalo Bore or Underwood and feel good about them. 

I also have 10mm revolvers - None of the above suggested by other posters would be a bad choice. 

Hell, buy one of each!

 

 

I think the bigger, heavier g40 would handle something like this best. 
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001484052

and since it would be a camp gun and owb carry on a belt, the larger profile shouldn’t matter. 
 

then maybe look at a kkm barrel to handle the rounds. 

Edited by Pato del Muerto

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8 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Do you get the e-mails?  You’re a preferred customer trust me.

Used to get email notifications when I put a Colt SAA on my wishlist, but was always too late to snag one.

just signed up this past week for the Ruger Carbine, but otherwise no emails from them.

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7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I think the bigger, heavier g40 would handle something like this best. 
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001484052

and since it would be a camp gun and owb carry on a belt, the larger profile shouldn’t matter. 
 

then maybe look at a kkm barrel to handle the rounds. 

I’m all for extra barrels and more gear if you just want it but read up on Buffalo Bore’s founder’s comments on their hard cast bullets, hot loads, and factory barrels vs. after market barrels.  I think his articles are in their FAQs, if not it’s easy to google.

I shoot BB and Underwood hot loads and have zero issues.

Buy and enjoy!!!!!

 

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On 6/28/2020 at 7:18 PM, Armybrat said:

The 10mm certainly would be a much better choice for black bear than 9mm.

But for grizzly.... .44 Magnum at the minimum.

(not from experience, just from reading)

454 Casull Ruger Alaskan is my bear gun of choice. Shoots a 45 colt when not in bear land. Took it fishing last year on the Kenai Penninsula.

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4 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

454 Casull Ruger Alaskan is my bear gun of choice. Shoots a 45 colt when not in bear land. Took it fishing last year on the Kenai Penninsula.

That’s based on the Bigger Super Redhawk frame and comes in .480 Ruger too, right?

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The Casull is a great round.  Sort of mainstreamed the bigger bore handguns in the late 90's after it had been simmering for a few decades......when Ruger adopted it in the late 90's it took off and lead to other developments like the .480 and the .500 S&W. 

Perfect choice for bear country and your Ruger Alaskan is carried by tons of guides up there.

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12 hours ago, Alien Octopus said:

454 Casull Ruger Alaskan is my bear gun of choice. Shoots a 45 colt when not in bear land. Took it fishing last year on the Kenai Penninsula.

Seems like it checks all the boxes

 

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On 6/24/2020 at 5:46 PM, 4th and 5 said:

That sure is a pretty set up you have there. I need to get an XL with optic to go with my usual every day carry P365. 
 
Somedays it stays home and I go old school though. Today was one of those days. 
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On 6/25/2020 at 8:58 PM, davidg said:

It’s a 44-40, about on par with a 45 Long Colt.  Not much recoil in a rifle

Now if it was a 45-70, there would be a little recoil involved.

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1 hour ago, 4th and 5 said:

Seems like it checks all the boxes

 

He seems very reluctant to fire it. How many accurate shots can you get in like 3 seconds with it?  I’d want to shoot one before buying. 

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Agreed. After I watched it, I think I'd rather have a big Glock 40 or 10mm with +P ammo. More, faster, and practiced rounds downrange when the SHTF. And a capacity for a warning shot or two without feeling like you're compromising safety.

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You have to fire a lot of rounds to get comfortable. Those big round guns can get away from you even if you have practice. They exhaust lots of little muscles in your arms and if your not paying attention your arm can give out an you’ll get a good wack to the face. 

i had a performance center SW 500 4” and the thing that helped me was getting a Nill-Griffe two handed grip. Made an incredible difference. In fact, if you have an HK or S&W you should definitely give them a look. They are the best out there imho. 
 

https://www.nill-griffe.com/Products_23.html

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2 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

You have to fire a lot of rounds to get comfortable. Those big round guns can get away from you even if you have practice. They exhaust lots of little muscles in your arms and if your not paying attention your arm can give out an you’ll get a good wack to the face. 

i had a performance center SW 500 4” and the thing that helped me was getting a Nill-Griffe two handed grip. Made an incredible difference. In fact, if you have an HK or S&W you should definitely give them a look. They are the best out there imho. 
 

https://www.nill-griffe.com/Products_23.html

That’s why I have “downsized” to 9mm. Gifted all my .44 Magnums & .45ACPs to my kids. Still have a couple of .357s, but am just shooting .38 Specials through those.
Also have two Rugers in .327 Federal Magnum that are pretty harsh to shoot... mainly because of the noise. Sumbitches are loud.

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1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

Send yours to Jim Martin or Dave Lanara to get that trigger fixed.

I know -we discussed that trigger before. I did send pictures to Dave so I am thinking of it

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Those guys do not work cheap. I still should send mine for repair to correct the end shake rattle, even if it is minimal. Still bugs me though.
Am surprised Jim Martin is still in business. He must be pushing 85.

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21 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He seems very reluctant to fire it. How many accurate shots can you get in like 3 seconds with it?  I’d want to shoot one before buying. 

Probably because it will perforate his steel targets. You can get two shots off in three seconds, depends if you practice, and how much you like spending on ammo. I believe the point of this caliber is to only need one shot.

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33 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

Probably because it will perforate his steel targets. You can get two shots off in three seconds, depends if you practice, and how much you like spending on ammo. I believe the point of this caliber is to only need one shot.

Friend of mine, his FIL has one.  Had it at the ranch earlier this year.  Honestly, not that bad.  We have a big pile of RR-tie plates we use.  Dented a few slightly, but that's about it.  Big pile of them, similar in size to this.  They work great.  9mm & 5.56mm just bounce off.  

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1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

Nice leather too!

 

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I'm a total idiot.  I sold a Talo limited Ruger Vaq in .45acp a few years back.  It wasn't my most used, or carried - but it was the most fun gun I owned.  I reload 45acp so it was nice to shoot with some soft shooting reloads.  I need to buy another one asap.

 

Ruger Talo Edition Vaquero 45ACP 5152 Revolver Buy Online ...

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26 minutes ago, krevo said:

I'm a total idiot.  I sold a Talo limited Ruger Vaq in .45acp a few years back.  It wasn't my most used, or carried - but it was the most fun gun I owned.  I reload 45acp so it was nice to shoot with some soft shooting reloads.  I need to buy another one asap.

 

Ruger Talo Edition Vaquero 45ACP 5152 Revolver Buy Online ...

You can get on the wait list at Grabagun for one of those.

$705 - stainless,

$661 - blued.

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I have the older framed (larger) Ruger Bird’s Head Vaquero in .45 LC. Mine has the faux-ivory grips. Supposedly Ruger only made about 1600 of that model, which I purchased around 2004-2005.

I have a shoulder / chest rig for it - like Doc Holliday in Tombstone.

Ruger’s larger frames/cylinder combinations allowed them to have some of the few brands that allowed one to shoot “hot” loads like Buffalo Bore or others that would be considered +P or ++P. Only Ruger’s (Old-Vaquero, Red Hawk, and Black Hawks) and Freedom Arms could safely handle the “hot” rounds back in those days. Something like a 240+gr. bullet combined with max pressure on the powder load.

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So, I just bought a couple of Glocks (45 and 43x) for the wife and I... I keep hearing how bad the sights are, but as a novice shooter will I really notice much of a difference?  I took them to the range the other day and could see how people would have issues but since I haven't tried any nicer sights, I am not sure how important they are.

Also, I also bought 1000 rounds of range ammo, 15 round magazines and catch mod for the 43x, and I plan on getting training and holsters and such, so I am mostly just interested in a discussion of the sights...

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1 hour ago, Richter said:

So, I just bought a couple of Glocks (45 and 43x) for the wife and I... I keep hearing how bad the sights are, but as a novice shooter will I really notice much of a difference?  I took them to the range the other day and could see how people would have issues but since I haven't tried any nicer sights, I am not sure how important they are.

Also, I also bought 1000 rounds of range ammo, 15 round magazines and catch mod for the 43x, and I plan on getting training and holsters and such, so I am mostly just interested in a discussion of the sights...

There’s nothing wrong with Glocks functionally.  I think they’re great pistols, but I don’t like the look so I wouldn’t buy one.  To me they are ugly and aesthetically they anger me.  Great guns though even if they are ugly looking.

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1 hour ago, Richter said:

So, I just bought a couple of Glocks (45 and 43x) for the wife and I... I keep hearing how bad the sights are, but as a novice shooter will I really notice much of a difference?  I took them to the range the other day and could see how people would have issues but since I haven't tried any nicer sights, I am not sure how important they are.

Also, I also bought 1000 rounds of range ammo, 15 round magazines and catch mod for the 43x, and I plan on getting training and holsters and such, so I am mostly just interested in a discussion of the sights...

If they don't have night-sights, then to me, this is critical.  Can't hit what you can't see.  As a novice, no - you are fine.  Better than fine in fact, as you have no baseline to compare them to, so will learn and become proficient with them.  Same with the stock triggers.  

It's the Indian, not the arrow....

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There’s nothing wrong with Glocks functionally.  I think they’re great pistols, but I don’t like the look so I wouldn’t buy one.  To me they are ugly and aesthetically they anger me.  Great guns though even if they are ugly looking.

They’re ugly as shit and the first 3 generations feel like ass. They are the ak of the pistol world. Plentiful, cheap for the most part, and pretty reliable.

Do they still have an unsupported chamber? I remember when I was getting brass to start reloading I was told to keep an eye out for that.

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1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

If they don't have night-sights, then to me, this is critical.  Can't hit what you can't see.  As a novice, no - you are fine.  Better than fine in fact, as you have no baseline to compare them to, so will learn and become proficient with them.  Same with the stock triggers.  

It's the Indian, not the arrow....

Very true....

 

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On 6/29/2020 at 9:13 PM, Armybrat said:

That’s based on the Bigger Super Redhawk frame and comes in .480 Ruger too, right?

Yeah also comes in a 44 mag, very accurate. Used it recently to put down a sick bull.

 

 

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On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 11:28 PM, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

So I started watching AMC's The Son on Hulu, which I definitely recommend if you like history and old guns. It follows the McCullogh family in south Texas switching back and forth between 1849 when the patriarch of the family was abducted by Apaches and the early 1900's when he has established a large ranch in South Texas. Anyhow, it's got me jonesing for a winchester 1907.

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Lost out on an auction bid this week for a Winchester 1910 in .401 WSL .  Really wanted it but it was being sold with no magazine and the cost of the gun plus a mag from another seller online just got too rich considering the receiver had been tapped for a scope which reduced the desirability somewhat.

The .401 WSL never took off but it had interesting ballistics in a carbine.  I'll find one soon enough.

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Interesting conversation about bear protection.  I've lived in Denali Borough Alaska going on 13 years now, here is my 2 cents...

 

If you can handle the .454 Casull, that would be the caliber of choice.  It's a lot of recoil though and most folks can't handle it.  Shoot one first.  Stay away from the Glock.  Go with a revolver, and buy a Ruger.  In a bear charge you are only going to have enough time to get off one shot.  Two if you are lucky.  They don't come at you from 50 or 100 feet away, they come at you from 20 or 30.  They charge when you surprise them or when a sow is protecting her cubs.  A bear raiding your camp for food will usually turn tail and run when you make yourself known. I carry a Ruger New Model Black Hawk .44 Magnum. I prefer the single action black hawk to the double action red hawk for two reasons:  Firstly, the single action makes you slow down.  That first shot has to count.  Secondly, the single action can fire hotter loads.  My buddy reloads and makes me my bear rounds.  320 grain hard cast lead at the maximum pressure safety will allow.  More than likely you will never be charged.  I see bears on a weekly basis and they are always running away from me when I finally do see them.  They want nothing to do with humans.  That being said, when venturing into bear country you need to be prepared to protect yourself and your family.     

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13 minutes ago, mooseoutfront said:

Interesting conversation about bear protection.  I've lived in Denali Borough Alaska going on 13 years now, here is my 2 cents...

 

If you can handle the .454 Casull, that would be the caliber of choice.  It's a lot of recoil though and most folks can't handle it.  Shoot one first.  Stay away from the Glock.  Go with a revolver, and buy a Ruger.  In a bear charge you are only going to have enough time to get off one shot.  Two if you are lucky.  They don't come at you from 50 or 100 feet away, they come at you from 20 or 30.  They charge when you surprise them or when a sow is protecting her cubs.  A bear raiding your camp for food will usually turn tail and run when you make yourself known. I carry a Ruger New Model Black Hawk .44 Magnum. I prefer the single action black hawk to the double action red hawk for two reasons:  Firstly, the single action makes you slow down.  That first shot has to count.  Secondly, the single action can fire hotter loads.  My buddy reloads and makes me my bear rounds.  320 grain hard cast lead at the maximum pressure safety will allow.  More than likely you will never be charged.  I see bears on a weekly basis and they are always running away from me when I finally do see them.  They want nothing to do with humans.  That being said, when venturing into bear country you need to be prepared to protect yourself and your family.     

Gave my Super BH to my son last year because he takes his two boys camping in New Mexico & Colorado sometimes:

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, bigshark88 said:


 

 


Any details on this? I bought a New Vaquero up thread. Wouldn't mind something to tote it in.

 

I could make you something, but it'd be pricey compared to factory stuff. It would outlast anything machine sewn you can buy off the rack, however.for reference, all the gunleather I have posted in this thread is my own work.

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