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The Beatles - Get Back (by Peter Jackson)


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12 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Holy shit this sounds SO good.  It’s crazy this was recorded 50+ years ago.

Well, the microphones and recording consoles were state of the art back then . . . and now.  "Advances" in the meantime are more or less limited to recording media (analog tape --> various digital formats) and loudspeaker technology.  The latter really doesn't come into play when doing a remix, other than whatever went to tape might have not be judged as accurately as possible given the rather lower-performance monitors of the day.  (Not that some of those monitors aren't classics.)

Really, I think the main issue is whatever noise floor might exist in the original tracks, given the lower signal-to-noise ratio of analog tape relative to digital recording gear.  Even so, the "fat" nature of tape is something that can only be emulated in a digital chain, sometimes for better, sometimes not.

Long story short:  they had some great audio to work with.  All they had to do was dig in and uncover it.

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39 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, the microphones and recording consoles were state of the art back then . . . and now.  "Advances" in the meantime are more or less limited to recording media (analog tape --> various digital formats) and loudspeaker technology.  The latter really doesn't come into play when doing a remix, other than whatever went to tape might have not be judged as accurately as possible given the rather lower-performance monitors of the day.  (Not that some of those monitors aren't classics.)

Really, I think the main issue is whatever noise floor might exist in the original tracks, given the lower signal-to-noise ratio of analog tape relative to digital recording gear.  Even so, the "fat" nature of tape is something that can only be emulated in a digital chain, sometimes for better, sometimes not.

Long story short:  they had some great audio to work with.  All they had to do was dig in and uncover it.

Related subject, I unearthed some cassette tapes from live shows my bands in the mid 90s did. I picked up a cheap player to listen to them and save as digital.

I don't think noise floor accurately captures what cassettes were like, it's practically a noise attic.

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On 11/2/2022 at 11:23 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Well, the microphones and recording consoles were state of the art back then . . . and now.  "Advances" in the meantime are more or less limited to recording media (analog tape --> various digital formats) and loudspeaker technology.  The latter really doesn't come into play when doing a remix, other than whatever went to tape might have not be judged as accurately as possible given the rather lower-performance monitors of the day.  (Not that some of those monitors aren't classics.)

Really, I think the main issue is whatever noise floor might exist in the original tracks, given the lower signal-to-noise ratio of analog tape relative to digital recording gear.  Even so, the "fat" nature of tape is something that can only be emulated in a digital chain, sometimes for better, sometimes not.

Long story short:  they had some great audio to work with.  All they had to do was dig in and uncover it.

Don’t they also have to have been kept cool, dry and out of the light? And the vast majority of recordings were not preserved properly?

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32 minutes ago, JohnnyRage said:

Don’t they also have to have been kept cool, dry and out of the light? And the vast majority of recordings were not preserved properly?

It's possible the tapes degraded, although I doubt that would be true for a band as iconic as The Beatles.  Tapes can often be restored by baking them, too.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's possible the tapes degraded, although I doubt that would be true for a band as iconic as The Beatles.  Tapes can often be restored by baking them, too.

EMI also used better tape than quite a few contemporary studios at the time.

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My understanding of what they did that was a big step up, was the new AI tech that was able to separate each instrument and voice. When they recorded back in their day, all in the same room, each mic had some spill from other sources. They weren't able to isolate each thing to its own signal. Now they can clean those up, separate everything cleanly as if it were recorded on limitless different tracks, and then remix theml like a more modern digital production.

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I'm 60 and a life long Beatles fan--at least since I was 12, and I just got around to ordering Disney+ to watch this.  I finished it last night and It was very interesting.  

Episode 1 was a little boring at first.  Creating songs from scratch must be hard and watching the sausage get made was a little tedious to me.  Episodes 2 and 3 were very interesting and the ending was about perfect.  Paul has always been my favorite and the first episode and half of episode 2 he came across as a prick.  But he is a master at creating hit songs.  Seemed like Ringo was a good guy that just wanted to keep things going.  It was very interesting that the producers were planning for something of a live TV performance after three weeks or so of rehearsals (with songs that were yet to be created), and the band wasn't even sure where they would be playing.  They were thinking of going to Libya at one point which sounded crazy to me.  

Maybe this is not surprising to anyone, but for the entire last half of the show it seemed obvious that they all knew that their time as The Beatles was soon coming to an end.  Sure, they got together in the studio to record Abbey Road later in the year but there were several not so subtle hints that they were about done as a group even after they got George to come back.  Some of the songs that ended up on Abbey Road were played in Get Back.  

As for the roof top concert it was by far my favorite part of Get Back.  The public's reaction to what they viewed as an impromptu concert was very cool.  I'm probably the most pro-law enforcement guy on this site, but those cops needed to GTFO.  

Oh, I'm still pissed at Yoko.  I could never understand John's attraction.  I can't believe they had to include some of her awful screeching--because she was a co-producer I suppose she insisted.

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