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1 minute ago, Snake Diggity said:

I expect us to win 10 games next season.  The roster is on track to be stacked.

Ewers will need to take a pretty massive step forward for that to be a possibility next year. It’s not impossible, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

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3 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I expect us to win 10 games next season

We'll see. Have to assume we lose to Bama so that means we only lose 1 other game the rest of the season. Certainly a possibility but I'll need to see what the conference schedule looks like.

7-2 in conference play will get us in the title game, which would likely mean 9-3 overall. That would be another step forward and then if we won the conference championship I would obviously consider that a very successful year.

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2 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

"fatwa alert" for your coach that has yet to win double digits games at UW, USC, Texas in 8 tries

choke on a penix.

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Just now, troph said:

choke on a penix.

Pete K had a pretty good gameplan, but eventually he took the Penix just like every other DC does.

Difference between Sark and Pete K is that Kwat actually knows how to coach. You guys would be much better with him at HC and some other OC

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5 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

"fatwa alert" for your coach that has yet to win double digits games at UW, USC, Texas in 8 tries

We know. Now kindly fuck off.

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6 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

"fatwa alert" for your coach that has yet to win double digits games at UW, USC, Texas in 8 tries

Bro, do you really think you can shit on our coaches better than we can? Nobody hates our coaches more than we do, believe that. Hell, we fucking hated (and many still do) our HOF coach who won 85% of his games for over a decade. Come on now.

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5 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Pete K had a pretty good gameplan, but eventually he took the Penix just like every other DC does.

Difference between Sark and Pete K is that Kwat actually knows how to coach. You guys would be much better with him at HC and some other OC

Lol Penix played like warm dog shit last night.

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Just now, ATXhorn17 said:

Lol Penix played like warm dog shit last night.

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Penix and our OC stubbornly were looking for the big play pass all fucking night. The one thing Kwat excels at, is preventing that from happening.

So instead we took the checkdowns and converted on damn near every 2nd half 3rd down.

Penix played like shit in the first half, settled down, and did what he needed to do against a good defense playing with home field advantage

3 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Bro, do you really think you can shit on our coaches better than we can? Nobody hates our coaches more than we do, believe that. Hell, we fucking hated (and many still do) our HOF coach who won 85% of his games for over a decade. Come on now.

Just saying, not every good coach is chomping at the bit to come to Texas. 

 

IMO you guys shouldve kept Herman

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12 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

"fatwa alert" for your coach that has yet to win double digits games at UW, USC, Texas in 8 tries

24 minutes to noon in my timezone. Let's see if you can pay a visit to Purgatorio before then.

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10 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Pete K had a pretty good gameplan, but eventually he took the Penix just like every other DC does.

Difference between Sark and Pete K is that Kwat actually knows how to coach. You guys would be much better with him at HC and some other OC

You know, I used to live in Seattle and I have a very high opinion on UW fans because they're normally not mouth breathing couch burners who take the game too seriously.  Generally, a very respectful and gracious group who doesn't take the game too seriously.

 

But here you are, on an opposing fans message board, on a 107 (and counting) page thread, dogging our coach.  As @Hank Chinaski, we don't need your got damn help with that.  Buzz off.  

 

And yes, we can money whip any of your coaches if we choose to.

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When we hired Sark, I was immediately disappointed. Then my fan powers of rationalization kicked in and I worked to come up with the rationale for being optimistic to get me through the next few years. 
 

What I came up with was that Sark has shown he can put together some formidable offenses when he has a talent advantage over everyone else like he did at Bama. I thought, “Texas is always able to recruit a talent advantage relative to the rest of the Big 12,” so if he is able to recruit reasonably well and hires a competent DC, we could win a lot of games with that formula, even if we would likely lose a majority when the talent was even with our opponents. Basically, the Mack Brown, Phillip Fulmer, Mark Richt formula of winning 9-10 games a year by getting the best Jimmies and Joes on campus. You do that long enough, and every once in a while you get lucky and break through. 
 

Two years in, I think that optimistic scenario is still on the table. Sark has recruited better than I had expected, and is building the team the right way, by stacking up blue chips on the lines and at QB. These are also the positions that take the longest to mature and develop, so we should all expect (and insist upon) improvement next year and 2024. Sark seems to have the disposition that will serve him well in the portal era, his players seem to like him, and his approach should attract and retain talent in a way that a Harry Hard-Ass like Tom Herman would not. We are stepping up in competition going to the SEC, but with that comes access to better athletes in recruiting who want to play in that league. 
 

I don’t have much hope of consistently beating teams like UGA and Bama at their current levels, or LSU or Florida if those programs get things rolling again. But a Texas program winning 10 games a season will almost always make a 12 team playoff field, even if we don’t advance beyond the first or second round very often. Maybe Arch or some generational player down the road comes in and takes us further. 
 

IDK. TLDR: last night didn’t crush all my hopes and dreams, which weren’t stratospheric to begin with. 

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1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

You know, I used to live in Seattle and I have a very high opinion on UW fans because they're normally not mouth breathing couch burners who take the game too seriously.  Generally, a very respectful and gracious group who doesn't take the game too seriously.

 

But here you are, on an opposing fans message board, on a 107 (and counting) page thread, dogging our coach.  As @Hank Chinaski, we don't need your got damn help with that.  Buzz off.  

 

And yes, we can money whip any of your coaches if we choose to.

You guys are a sensitive bunch and wouldn't last a day at hardcorehusky.com

Go ahead and ban me for talking some shit. No one gives a fuck.

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Posted (edited)

Is a coach really a good coach if they win because they have a more talented roster than their opponents? Isn't the reason a coach is identified and hired because they excelled despite having an overwhelming talent advantage ala Gary Patterson, Mike Leach, etc. Sark had better players than anyone they played at Alabama and at Carroll's USC. But when he's the head man in charge he can't win because the culture was nuked by Herman despite him leaving the most talented RB on the roster that's been in Austin since probably Ricky. 

 

Then apparently this dude is a QB whisperer yet can't do anything with a guy that was only ranked behind Bryce Young as a DT QB. If you can only be successful as a coach running a system, doesn't that make you a system coach? Saban has succeeded in a pro-style, power run, and now a spread offense. He's clearly an elite coach. 

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1 minute ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

You guys are a sensitive bunch and wouldn't last a day at hardcorehusky.com

Go ahead and ban me for talking some shit. No one gives a fuck.

Hardcore Husky is my dom name

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1 minute ago, troph said:

Let’s be honest. 11-2 isn’t our style for money whipping UW coaches though, we like 7-9 wins. 

Serious question - when was the last time you guys money whipped someone not from USF or Houston?

If there is anyone you should money whip, it should be someone like Jonathan Smith over at Oregon State

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1 minute ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

You guys are a sensitive bunch and wouldn't last a day at hardcorehusky.com

Go ahead and ban me for talking some shit. No one gives a fuck.

Actually there are raging assholes on this board that can ruin your life. We just like real conversation not trolling bullshit. If you were worth a shit, even an ounce of chickenshit, you could stick around with the other dozens upon dozens of opposing team fans that prefer surly to their own god damned teams boards. Basically you lack quality, substance or merit to be allowed to stay here so.

go away gtfo GIF

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59 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Sure. Middling, fine, ok, average…whatever. Less than exceptional, greater than terrible. The meaty part of the bell curve. That’s our coach. 

Which honestly is probably doing okay considering his resume coming into this job. Things could certainly be worse.  I am still however baffled by the decision to hire him. 

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1 minute ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Is a coach really a good coach if they win because they have a more talented roster than their opponents? Isn't the reason a coach is identified and hired because they excelled despite having an overwhelming talent advantage ala Gary Patterson, Mike Leach, etc. Sark had better players than anyone they played at Alabama and at Carroll's USC. But when he's the head man in charge he can't win because the culture was nuked by Herman despite him leaving the most talented RB on the roster that's been in Austin since probably Ricky. 

 

Then apparently this dude is a QB whisperer yet can't do anything that was only ranked behind Bryce Young as a DT QB. If you can only be successful as a coach running a system, doesn't that make you a system coach? Saban has succeeded in a pro-style, power run, and now a spread offense. He's clearly an elite coach. 

There are only a few elite coaches in college football.

Hopefully we'll get lucky and hire one someday. Hell, I hope Steve Sarkisian becomes one.

Sigh.

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4 minutes ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

You guys are a sensitive bunch and wouldn't last a day at hardcorehusky.com

Go ahead and ban me for talking some shit. No one gives a fuck.

You're right.  We'd call ourselves hardcoresurly.com if we were hard core.  Or not.  

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

Actually there are raging assholes on this board that can ruin your life. We just like real conversation not trolling bullshit. If you were worth a shit, even an ounce of chickenshit, you could stick around with the other dozens upon dozens of opposing team fans that prefer surly to their own god damned teams boards. Basically you lack quality, substance or merit to be allowed to stay here so.

go away gtfo GIF

I see you're a little upset.

Maybe a walk along the beach for some perspective can help?

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I expect us to win 10 games next season.  The roster is on track to be stacked.

I don’t see it. We need immediate help at Edge, LB, S and WR.  Sorrel is an ok edge, Ford has played well prior to last night and we’re hoping Neyor makes it back from the ACL. 

All other option will either come from the portal or be frosh/underclassmen that we’re hoping do something. It’s the Texas way. 

And even if we address all of those we’re likely one deep at most of them.

Someone will likely step up and surprise, and we’ll probably snag at least one answer in the portal, but that’s some pretty big position groups to have no obvious solutions. Yes, there are some talented athletes waiting on playing time, but none of them pushed to start and looked ready to rock like Brooks did this year for example. 

And that’s not touching on the headsets issues. 

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1 minute ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Is a coach really a good coach if they win because they have a more talented roster than their opponents?

In college football? Yes. Getting and developing the talent is most of the job.

People always try to separate talent acquisition and roster construction from Xs and Os; me, I don’t give a shit, it all comes out in the wash.

It looks like Sark will need pretty sizable talent advantages to win consistently; he seems potentially able to create that. He will need to, because it doesn’t appear that he’ll outcoach (within games) many opponents. 

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Just now, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

I see you're a little upset.

Maybe a walk along the beach for some perspective can help?

Actually I just want you crowdsourced asap so you stop littering the beautiful beach I’m walking on. 

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Posted (edited)

1) The troll isn't saying anything that scores of our own fans don't already say

2) Why is anyone bothering to feed the troll? Y'all must be bored.

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1 minute ago, utee94 said:

1) The troll isn't saying anything that scores of our own fans already say

2) Why is anyone bothering to feed the troll? Y'all must be bored.

I'm not even trolling. I'd love nothing more than to see Texas run a train on the SEC 

Sark just aint it and it's bizarre your great program took a waiver on his third act

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2 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

In college football? Yes. Getting and developing the talent is most of the job.

People always try to separate talent acquisition and roster construction from Xs and Os; me, I don’t give a shit, it all comes out in the wash.

It looks like Sark will need pretty sizable talent advantages to win consistently; he seems potentially able to create that. He will need to, because it doesn’t appear that he’ll outcoach (within games) many opponents. 

Which really is the problem at Texas, since on paper it's only Oklahoma that has equal talent..... At least on paper. Even next year, our roster is the most talented than everyone in the Big 12. Yet, the expectation is 8 wins. Wtf is that? 

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1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

As i mentioned earlier, the battle continues between those with HOPE for Sark vs. those accepting our FATE with Sark. 

HOPE for Sark: saviors to come, excuses and extenuating circumstances, etc. Failsafe: attack Mack Brown or Tom Herman.

FATE: saviors won't matter, evidence of Sark's lousy record, list possible new coaches--all while knowing Sark is here for 2-4 more years at least (barring a 3-9 meltdown season) and will win nothing of significance. And Meyer ain't coming. 

Is there any doubt, CDC and the big money boosters are on the HOPE side? 

They are on the we have to have 4-5 years of stability either way side. There is an argument for that. You can’t coaching carousel 3 coaches in a row under 4 years each. I think the idea is if he builds something that underperforms the next coach can benefit from some of the stability. Plus if we bail on coaches even for good reason every 3-4 years the other programs will use it against us.

4 minutes ago, utee94 said:

1) The troll isn't saying anything that scores of our own fans don't already say

2) Why is anyone bothering to feed the troll? Y'all must be bored.

Well if crowdsourcing would commence we wouldn’t need more posts of his to send him on his way.

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Just now, troph said:

They are on the we have to have 4-5 years of stability either way side. There is an argument for that. You can’t coaching carousel 3 coaches in a row under 4 years each. I think the idea is if he builds something that underperforms the next coach can benefit from some of the stability. Plus if we bail on coaches even for good reason every 3-4 years the other programs will use it against us.

Barring a complete collapse, I think we are going to give Sark more time than many on this board are comfortable with or used to.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

We also fired Mack after 8-4 lol 


maybe saban and his agent will want to pinch Bama for a huge raise. They’ll need a pigeon /  ut board of regents to play along again

 

If only terry saban could find a house in Austin !!!

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16 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Which really is the problem at Texas, since on paper it's only Oklahoma that has equal talent..... At least on paper. Even next year, our roster is the most talented than everyone in the Big 12. Yet, the expectation is 8 wins. Wtf is that? 

I think it comes down to what we mean when we say “talent”. We throw it out there like it’s an objective thing, but I think it is nuanced and fuzzy and don’t know how to best quantify it.

Many people are really only referring to recruiting rankings from the roster. That’s an indicator, but experience also matters. QE may be more “talented” than Duggan, for example, but he was also a freshman who did a bunch of freshman shit. Worthy may seem more “talented” based on his speed, etc, but that means fuckall if he can’t catch.

We had zero players from last year’s team drafted, indicating a dearth of upper-classman talent - which you could think of as the intersection of talent and experience. Some on here act like this year’s roster was like one of Mack’s teams in terms of talent - IMO it’s not in the same galaxy as those 00s teams in terms of depth, experience, ability, etc.

Sark’s path to success depends on amassing a significant talent advantage. He can’t miss on many evals, his staff will need to develop players, and he’ll need good QB play. That’s his only shot, because he’s not going to consistently out-strategize opponents. It is doable but his margin for error isn’t wide.

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Posted
1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

DeBoer could be good.  Traylor over McGuire for me.  


Why traylor over mcguire ?

 

mcguire is building up a nice resume and is highly highly connected to Texas hs football coaches 

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6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


Why traylor over mcguire ?

 

mcguire is building up a nice resume and is highly highly connected to Texas hs football coaches 

At this point one has won 30 games and a conference championship at his school and the other beat Texas and won his only bowl game. Traylor is the obvious choice today. Maybe not the right one, but the obvious one. 

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22 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Which really is the problem at Texas, since on paper it's only Oklahoma that has equal talent..... At least on paper. Even next year, our roster is the most talented than everyone in the Big 12. Yet, the expectation is 8 wins. Wtf is that? 

Yeah, I’m not really sure about expecting 8 wins. Bijan covered up a lot of warts. 

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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

See, this is the type of shit that proves that this board just wants to bitch and moan without any understanding of how things really work.  Sark has personally recruited an elite swiss army knife in Keilan, arguably the top RB in Texas in Blue, and the best RB in the country in Baxter (not to mention holding on to Brooks right after getting hired).  There are conclusions to be drawn from last night, but "Sark has not recruited players talented enough to immediately resemble the two most talented football players on the roster" is... exactly what I would expect from you.

Keilan is not an 'elite' swiss army knife, and you might want to rewatch his plays this year if you're overrating him that highly. He's a pass-catcher out of the backfield and in the slot, good for not much more than 2-3 catches a game. Brooks, Blue and Baxter are the guys who will have to replace Bijan and Rojo next year, and last night wasn't much of an audition for any of them.

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Last year: this isn’t his roster just wait!

this year: he has a freshman qb and freshman lineman!!

next year: arch is having to start and wasn’t ready cut him some slack!

the following year: arch left him and that wasn’t nice so he has a transfer portal guy it’s not his fault!!!

 

he will be gone after year 4. Book it.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Barring a complete collapse, I think we are going to give Sark more time than many on this board are comfortable with or used to.

Yep.

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6 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Last year: this isn’t his roster just wait!

this year: he has a freshman qb and freshman lineman!!

next year: arch is having to start and wasn’t ready cut him some slack!

the following year: arch left him and that wasn’t nice so he has a transfer portal guy it’s not his fault!!!

 

he will be gone after year 4. Book it.

6-7 wins likely gives him year 4.  Maybe 5 wins does.  

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2 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

I shudder to think about a Sarkisian-led team playing in Tuscaloosa in primetime next year…

Why? His teams keep it close. All his losses are by 7 or less points this year. It’s why it’s so maddening. His ceiling will be right on the cusp. It’s why he likely gets more than 4 years because well, he’s on the cusp.

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1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

6-7 wins likely gives him year 4.  Maybe 5 wins does.  

Yeah I wouldn’t even think about hopes up for a termination at all next year. Theoretically at 4-5 wins it should be on the table but it’s a 0% chance unless maybe he is arrested for beating his wife. 

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