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3 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

Goddamn. I go to trial for two weeks, come back, and you motherfuckers have added more than 80 pages to this thread? Is there any reason to go back and try to read through all of it?

Go grab yourself a McRib and settle down for a nice story....

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3 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

Goddamn. I go to trial for two weeks, come back, and you motherfuckers have added more than 80 pages to this thread? Is there any reason to go back and try to read through all of it?

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16 minutes ago, BigDHornfan said:

 

What happens to the 9-3 thread? Sark said it. Everyone needs to accept it, move along, season over, fuck aggy, hope we end on a high note and kick their ass. And get some practice in also. Which we appear to need. Imagine needing practice. Maybe we should have a similar offseason like what top teams do that made the playoffs next year? Maybe we should have someone tour top college teams instead of NFL teams to see what they do to get ready for spring and summer and how they practice to get better, identify weaknesses, evaluate talent, determine what plays their QBs can and cannot do, and so on. starting the year with raiding the portal to plug in holes would be nice. Showing up for Junior Day, and you know basically doing the shit elite teams do. Instead of employing things that have been proven not to work in college, that would be nice. You cannot wing success. You either practice like the elite teams do or you miss the playoffs and blow money BMDs donated, there is NO in between. For us, because we are Texas, our fans will never accept MID. 

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Something is wrong with Williams. That knee injury has robbed him of his elite athleticism. He’s the safety version of Baxter to me until proven otherwise. We need multiple veterans brought in to the secondary next year. 

And what’s crazy, he looks lost about half the time. I seem to remember him being pretty good before he got hurt.
All three of our losses followed a bye week (or longer)... what were we doing during the week(s) off?
 

A lot of fucking, not much practicing.
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But seriously, what you missed is:
We hired a recovering alcoholic to be our head football coach, hoping that he would meet his potential if he stayed sober, and knowing the absolute shitshow that would happen if he didn't. 
Sometime before this calendar year, he fell off the wagon, and we have yet to hear the entirety of the shitshow that has followed.
The only reason we have 8 wins and not fewer this year (so far) is because we have high end talent, a pretty great staff of assistant coaches, and a great support staff and athletic department that have tried to keep boat afloat. We have won this year in spite of our talented head coach, not because of him.
 

You think this is a great staff of assistants?
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Posted
2 hours ago, Newy25 said:


Cognitive dissonance is one of the most powerful human conditions.  I just do not know how you convinced yourself that Sark, a former addict/alcoholic is incapable of falling off the wagon. 

I did no such thing.

But, as a former alcoholic, I know what falling off the wagon looks like for a guy who was fired for publicly being drunk on the job.

The nature of the disease is such that once control is lost, it's never regained, by long abstinence or human intervention.  If he had fallen off the wagon in a way that interfered substantially with his coaching duties, it wouldn't be the subject of rumors, and as mentioned previously, his football woes would be the least of them.

There are plenty of explanations for Sark's shortcomings that do not involve that.

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14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I did no such thing.

But, as a former alcoholic, I know what falling off the wagon looks like for a guy who was fired for publicly being drunk on the job.

The nature of the disease is such that once control is lost, it's never regained, by long abstinence or human intervention.  If he had fallen off the wagon in a way that interfered substantially with his coaching duties, it wouldn't be the subject of rumors, and as mentioned previously, his football woes would be the least of them.

There are plenty of explanations for Sark's shortcomings that do not involve that.

Hard to fall off when you were never on….

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Hard to fall off when you were never on….

That doesn't fly either.

Sark was publicly drunk and humiliating himself at UW and USC ten years ago.

If he never stopped drinking, he'd couldn't hold a press conference today without puking.  Or go three hours on Saturday without a twelve-pack or the equivalent.

An alcoholic like that doesn't get control of his drinking for a $10M/year job or an unlimited NIL budget.

It. Just. Gets. Worse.

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

What happens to the 9-3 thread? Sark said it. Everyone needs to accept it, move along, season over, fuck aggy, hope we end on a high note and kick their ass. And get some practice in also. Which we appear to need. Imagine needing practice. Maybe we should have a similar offseason like what top teams do that made the playoffs next year? Maybe we should have someone tour top college teams instead of NFL teams to see what they do to get ready for spring and summer and how they practice to get better, identify weaknesses, evaluate talent, determine what plays their QBs can and cannot do, and so on. starting the year with raiding the portal to plug in holes would be nice. Showing up for Junior Day, and you know basically doing the shit elite teams do. Instead of employing things that have been proven not to work in college, that would be nice. You cannot wing success. You either practice like the elite teams do or you miss the playoffs and blow money BMDs donated, there is NO in between. For us, because we are Texas, our fans will never accept MID. 

The 9-3 thread might be prophetic if we beat the snot out of aggy and things break our way.

Stranger things have happened.

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Imagine needing practice. Maybe we should have a similar offseason like what top teams do that made the playoffs next year? Maybe we should have someone tour top college teams instead of NFL teams to see what they do to get ready for spring and summer and how they practice to get better, identify weaknesses, evaluate talent, determine what plays their QBs can and cannot do, and so on. starting the year with raiding the portal to plug in holes would be nice. You either practice like the elite teams do or you miss the playoffs...

Sark should already know how elite teams practice, having spent two years under Saban on Bama's staff.

His NFL-like experience failed this year.

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57 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


You think this is a great staff of assistants?

No, only pretty great. 

Imagine how good they'd be if their boss actually did his job.

40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

his football woes would be the least of them

i have news for you

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

What happens to the 9-3 thread? Sark said it. Everyone needs to accept it, move along, season over, fuck aggy, hope we end on a high note and kick their ass. And get some practice in also. Which we appear to need. Imagine needing practice. Maybe we should have a similar offseason like what top teams do that made the playoffs next year? Maybe we should have someone tour top college teams instead of NFL teams to see what they do to get ready for spring and summer and how they practice to get better, identify weaknesses, evaluate talent, determine what plays their QBs can and cannot do, and so on. starting the year with raiding the portal to plug in holes would be nice. Showing up for Junior Day, and you know basically doing the shit elite teams do. Instead of employing things that have been proven not to work in college, that would be nice. You cannot wing success. You either practice like the elite teams do or you miss the playoffs and blow money BMDs donated, there is NO in between. For us, because we are Texas, our fans will never accept MID. 

I’m assuming you didn’t watch the video.

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1 minute ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

There’s no such thing as a “former alcoholic” by the way. The disease doesn’t really work like that. 

I'm 30 years sober.  Former, recovered, recovering, whatever.

It's true that you never a) completely get over it b) if you start up again you're gonna be right where you left off in a goddamn hurry.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm 30 years sober.  Former, recovered, recovering, whatever.

It's true that you never a) completely get over it b) if you start up again you're gonna be right where you left off in a goddamn hurry.

Fair enough. Sorry for being an ass. Congrats man. 

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

But, as a former alcoholic, I know what falling off the wagon looks like for a guy who was fired for publicly being drunk on the job.

The nature of the disease is such that once control is lost, it's never regained, by long abstinence or human intervention.  If he had fallen off the wagon in a way that interfered substantially with his coaching duties, it wouldn't be the subject of rumors, and as mentioned previously, his football woes would be the least of them.

This idea is taken as fact by many people. It was thought up by some alcoholic in the 1930's and is now ingrained in the big business of addiction recovery. I can't think of a more counterproductive way to think of an addiction - or any problem you're facing, than to proclaim that you have absolutely no control over it. Many psychiatrists dispute the idea of "once an addict, always an addict," and feel that it that it hinders recovery. We let murderers rehabilitate and rejoin society, but if you get addicted it's a life sentence. 

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15 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

I like sark, I defended him for a while. The end of the 2nd quarter against a terrible arky defense with an explosive offense in year 5 is the last straw. Their punter gave you a TD. Young football team, some struggles with a chance to emphatically slam the mother fucking door and give yourself some breathing room. Sark took the FG. That’s why he will never beat day, smart, lanning etc. You have to practice those moments against shitty teams so you can execute them against good teams. He needs to move on. The undisciplined nature of his teams, the inability to evaluate talent (recruiting and portal misses) and the lack of game day awareness is too much to overcome. Lanning or freeman, Texas needs one of those guys. 

The last straw should’ve been last week against UGA when at halftime, the Reporter chic asked Sark his thoughts and he noted our running game looked great.   When in reality as it’s been most of the season, it’s was dog diarrhea.    

Beam me up!   

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22 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

This idea is taken as fact by many people. It was thought up by some alcoholic in the 1930's and is now ingrained in the big business of addiction recovery. I can't think of a more counterproductive way to think of an addiction - or any problem you're facing, than to proclaim that you have absolutely no control over it. Many psychiatrists dispute the idea of "once an addict, always an addict," and feel that it that it hinders recovery. We let murderers rehabilitate and rejoin society, but if you get addicted it's a life sentence. 

I didn't say you have no control over it.  Every addict that recovers and achieves abstinence exercises some control, some choice.  But it's not a simple choice of "don't drink" or "drink less."

But the top science in the field is that addicts brains essentially "overreact" to the introduction of substances in a way that others don't.  And that never goes away.  And it gets worse the more you feed it.

Corollary to that is, the only cure is complete abstinence, and secondarily, if you resume, your brain is in approximately the same state you left it, so, if you were a bad drunk when you quit, you're gonna be a bad drunk in a hurry if you start back up, even if it's 20 years later.

A guy like Sark that has a demonstrated history of bad decisions relating to alcohol.  Alcohol doesn't help anyone's decisions, but most people are in control enough as adults not to show up to work-related events shiftfaced.

An adult with a high-responsibility job that shows up shiftfaced on the regular has a problem, a lack of control that evinces an addiction.  A guy like that is going to have to remain abstinent.  If he doesn't, the wheels are going to come completely off.

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I get that Sark likes to party too much and has an addiction. But whoever shared the UW party bus story where Sark, Nansen, Wilcox, and Sirmon showed up shitfaced to an alumni event, thinking it would make me lower my opinion of him is sorely mistaken. I WISH I WAS ON THE BUS.  

 

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16 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

The end of the 2nd quarter against a terrible arky defense with an explosive offense in year 5 is the last straw. Their punter gave you a TD. Young football team, some struggles with a chance to emphatically slam the mother fucking door and give yourself some breathing room. Sark took the FG.

Lol I've seen so many posts saying "Boo hoo Sark played for the field goal, he's such a pussy, wah wah wah"

Anyone who actually thinks that watches this game way too emotionally and doesn't know what they are actually watching and everything is filtered through your own confirmation bias.

Just to remind you of the sequence. With two time outs left. 

First down-shot at the end zone, incomplete. 

Second down - 7 yard rush, time out. If Sark was playing for the field goal, you let the clock run down here. But they took a time out expecting that they would be able to convert on 3rd and 3. I guarantee you that if this second down run gets stuffed and it's a 3rd and long, then it would've been a shot at the end zone. But since it was third and short, now you're thinking, we have a chance to get a first and get extra chances.

At this point, Wisener is averaging about 4 yards per carry. Not great, but he just got a 7 yard run. You expect him to be able to pick up 3 yards. In fact, watching the game back, Sark calls the exact same run play with just a slightly different motion because Arky is playing the exact same defense. He's expecting to get the first down there. If Tre gets the first down, clock stops, now you've got THREE shots at the end zone with 30 seconds left instead of one shot on a 3rd and 3, which is apparently what many of you wanted instead. That run had just gone for 7 yards...Sark was playing for the first down, not for the field goal. Again, get the first down, now you've got 3 shots at the end zone with 30 seconds left and a time out.

Third down - Alas, Tre does not get the first down. Penetration in the right A gap forces him to improvise. Not getting the first down there screwed up the plan. 

Now it's 4th down, in FG range, and you get the ball back coming out of halftime. Take the points.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I didn't say you have no control over it.

You deny saying that but then give a detailed explanation of why these people have no control over it. There are many psychiatrists that disagree even if the "top science in the field" says that. Yes there are people that are better off never touching alcohol again, but many people are able to conquer the problem and learn to drink in moderation.

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This thread is entertaining, but the lagniappe is people dealing with absolutes with one of the best posters on the board sharing his experience with alcoholism, as if he just read a pamphlet about the conditions and recovery.

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4 hours ago, Iceman said:

This thread is entertaining, but the lagniappe is people dealing with absolutes with one of the best posters on the board sharing his experience with alcoholism, as if he just read a pamphlet about the conditions and recovery.

I don’t agree with Twice about everything, but when he writes on the recovery thread, I listen.

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5 hours ago, Farmer Vincent said:

You deny saying that but then give a detailed explanation of why these people have no control over it. There are many psychiatrists that disagree even if the "top science in the field" says that. Yes there are people that are better off never touching alcohol again, but many people are able to conquer the problem and learn to drink in moderation.

I've watched a lot of things come and go even in my relatively brief time on earth and they mostly go.  For example the Sinclair method with naltrexone.

The AA model sticks around for a reason.  Because the "model" I describe is far more common than anything else.

https://nida.nih.gov/about-nida/noras-blog/2025/03/advancing-reduction-drug-use-endpoint-in-addiction-treatment-trials  Nora Volkow is the top scientist in the field.  Here she acknowledges that moderation in substance abuse might be nice and explores possible reasons for the common catastrophic relapse.  And calls for further study.

And, if it's so easy for a guy like Sark to just moderate his drinking, well then why are we even speculating that he's off the wagon?

And it has been made clear to me that people don't understand what I mean by Sark's problems.  I don't mean divorce, baby-mama-drama and an underachieving football team.

I mean drunken public appearances, DUIs, face-down-in-the-gutter type shit.  Police involvement.  That would be pretty independently verifiable and obvious.

I don't claim and can't claim all the medical answers, but I have extensive personal experience dealing with addicts and addiction and follow the science out of personal interest.  

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5 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Lol I've seen so many posts saying "Boo hoo Sark played for the field goal, he's such a pussy, wah wah wah"

Anyone who actually thinks that watches this game way too emotionally and doesn't know what they are actually watching and everything is filtered through your own confirmation bias.

Just to remind you of the sequence. With two time outs left. 

First down-shot at the end zone, incomplete. 

Second down - 7 yard rush, time out. If Sark was playing for the field goal, you let the clock run down here. But they took a time out expecting that they would be able to convert on 3rd and 3. I guarantee you that if this second down run gets stuffed and it's a 3rd and long, then it would've been a shot at the end zone. But since it was third and short, now you're thinking, we have a chance to get a first and get extra chances.

At this point, Wisener is averaging about 4 yards per carry. Not great, but he just got a 7 yard run. You expect him to be able to pick up 3 yards. In fact, watching the game back, Sark calls the exact same run play with just a slightly different motion because Arky is playing the exact same defense. He's expecting to get the first down there. If Tre gets the first down, clock stops, now you've got THREE shots at the end zone with 30 seconds left instead of one shot on a 3rd and 3, which is apparently what many of you wanted instead. That run had just gone for 7 yards...Sark was playing for the first down, not for the field goal. Again, get the first down, now you've got 3 shots at the end zone with 30 seconds left and a time out.

Third down - Alas, Tre does not get the first down. Penetration in the right A gap forces him to improvise. Not getting the first down there screwed up the plan. 

Now it's 4th down, in FG range, and you get the ball back coming out of halftime. Take the points.

From their 35 you’d throw once THEN run twice in a row in an effort to score a TD with two time outs? Texas has a young Superman at qb, not Vince young with his feet but capable of moving the pocket and pushing the arky defense to make a play. I feel like with 3 losses and basically all the sports world talking shit it’s a good moment to remind people Texas is still Texas. Instead we were nervous Arkansas might get the ball back and score. Mack brown played not to lose instead of playing to win plenty of times and it cost Texas several big 12 title appearances and national championship games. To each their own I reckon. 

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I really hope we don’t reach this level in Sark’s journey.

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How about we just hire a ball coach next go round? 
For once I’d like to hire a guy the eats, drinks, shits football, married to the game not the fame or the dame. 

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