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35 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Sounds like we're brothers from another mother.

Fear of rejection was really high on the list...also fear that I'd suck at sex, and she'd tell everyone at school.  This was so strong that I mostly messed around with girls from other schools.  I was also oblivious to clues, so even the action I did get was when the girl made the first move.

I didn’t really mature emotionally until late college right around the time my now wife and I got serious. I was very introverted and lacked any semblance of self esteem in those early years. Fear of rejection was pretty high in the list for why I wasn’t dating or banging at that age. I also was quite traumatized looking back at my strict catholic upbringing. Like crying myself to sleep routinely because I gave in to jerking off. Pretty sure I’d have entered a guilt coma if I had actually had sex with girl. I hate that it’s probably still a major issue for millions of kids. At least I wasn’t molested by a priest, goddamn I hate that part of my life.

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6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Like crying myself to sleep routinely because I gave in to jerking off.

thats awful.  Legit sorry to hear that.

my mother walked in on me mid-stroke when I was about 15-16 ish.  Like look you in the eye, look at your hand full of penis, then look you in the eye, gasp turn around and slam door.  I swear I locked the bathroom door.   I spent 15 minutes cold sweating in the bathroom trying to figure out how it was going to be addressed when I exited the bathroom.  

Not a word has ever been said.  Thank you, Mom.

 

My wife doesn't have any brothers.  She goes pretty white when I describe to here what our son will be like from  something like 14-leaving for college.

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So should we track down those socially awkward people and bully pressure them on social media about getting laid, and tell them they aren’t a real man (or woman) if they aren’t having sex at least a few times a month year?

No. What we SHOULD do is just disable all social media. But we won’t.
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22 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Not to derail too far, but I think both of your experiences are fairly common.  I was similar.

High school was a series of sexual interactions that were frankly a bit awkward due to inexperience of both participants, plus my read was girls had significant slut-shaming pressure.   Summer post graduation all bets were off and I had fairly satisfying sex with a couple classmates that were obvious flirtations through school.  College reverted a bit in my experience, way different than high school, but there definitely was social brakes on freakiness. The couple of years post college was unleashed.  Zero fucks given on any social pressure to not get it on.   Then I got married( happily so) and kids which really fucks with the sexy time.   

First 3.5 years of college were my real "go" time.  Met my wife right at the start of 2nd semester senior year and we've been together since then.  I had a lot of fun in what was in retrospect a fairly short window.  And thankfully that window (2003-2007) was prior to constant videos of everything.

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1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

First 3.5 years of college were my real "go" time.  Met my wife right at the start of 2nd semester senior year and we've been together since then.  I had a lot of fun in what was in retrospect a fairly short window.  And thankfully that window (2003-2007) was prior to constant videos of everything.

I suspect you may have died as a single man post college, lol.  I look back on those days fondly, but I couldn't have kept it up.  The oats had been sewn.

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Sounds like we're brothers from another mother.

Fear of rejection was really high on the list...also fear that I'd suck at sex, and she'd tell everyone at school.  This was so strong that I mostly messed around with girls from other schools.  I was also oblivious to clues, so even the action I did get was when the girl made the first move.

I grew up in in a small town (10 people in my graduating class, 7 boys three girls)with only one "decent" looking girl in the class. The class that were seniors when I was a sophomore had some legitimate smoke shows, but they were dating guys a few years older. There were two really hot ones in the two classes below me, so pickings were slim. We also went to adjacent towns. I only got to smash one of the younger ones my senior year. College was like a kid in a candy store though. Somehow we managed to find attractive women to date and marry.

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23 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I suspect you may have died as a single man post college, lol.  I look back on those days fondly, but I couldn't have kept it up.  The oats had been sewn.

I absolutely would have died as a single man post college.  

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

So should we track down those socially awkward people and bully pressure them on social media about getting laid, and tell them they aren’t a real man (or woman) if they aren’t having sex at least a few times a month year?

They are all socially awkward. My daughter is one of those socially awkward people out there being courted by equally socially awkward boys. Her generation's idea of a date is sitting across from each other showing memes to one another for an extended period of time. They don't call, they text. They don't give each other phone numbers, they share instagram or snap accounts. Once they feel its "okay" they skip talking on the phone all together and facetime. Then they facetime with the phone pointed up at the ceiling.

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4 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Slumpbusters.

Also depends what time it is at the bar.  She's a 2 at 10 and a 10 at 2.

 

Also, personality can override looks. In both directions. For both sexes.

 

2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

This is describes my evolution from HS to college fairly well.  I guess I'm distinguishing between the guys who wear their horniness on their sleeve and the ones who don't.  I think internally nearly every teenage boy is a horn dog.  Some of them advertise it more blatantly than others.

 

I was one of those more blatant advertisers. What didn't occur to me until later was (1) that other guys might have been faking it to hide their real sexuality and (2) that other guys probably thought that I was faking it to hide my true sexuality.

I mean, it's high school. Who fuckin cares? I talk to literally two other people from my high school. Both of them post as much as I do on Surly.

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19 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

They are all socially awkward. My daughter is one of those socially awkward people out there being courted by equally socially awkward boys. Her generation's idea of a date is sitting across from each other showing memes to one another for an extended period of time. They don't call, they text. They don't give each other phone numbers, they share instagram or snap accounts. Once they feel its "okay" they skip talking on the phone all together and facetime. Then they facetime with the phone pointed up at the ceiling.

They just share memes with each other?  So, they're skipping forward all the way to being married for 10 years?

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

thats awful.  Legit sorry to hear that.

my mother walked in on me mid-stroke when I was about 15-16 ish.  Like look you in the eye, look at your hand full of penis, then look you in the eye, gasp turn around and slam door.  I swear I locked the bathroom door.   I spent 15 minutes cold sweating in the bathroom trying to figure out how it was going to be addressed when I exited the bathroom.  

Not a word has ever been said.  Thank you, Mom.

 

My wife doesn't have any brothers.  She goes pretty white when I describe to here what our son will be like from  something like 14-leaving for college.

Well, did you finish?

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Reading some of these stories makes me more thankful for how my teenage and college years played out.  I was a somewhat dorky HS kid in the 90's but my GF was kinda nerdy but DTF.  I literally had more sex than anyone in town but it was with one girl.  Wasn't with #2 until college.  As a result, I had a lot of sexual confidence both before and during.  As I got older and less dorky, it just becomes free and easy so I could never understand why all these dudes couldn't get laid.  It was confidence, or lack thereof.

Also, Team Pussy Hound here.  Didn't know there was a difference between horn dog and pussy hound but OK.

I'm also a big fan of sleeping around when you're younger.  You find what you like, what you don't like, what you can't live without, etc.  Same applies to women.  (Why wouldn't it?)  It's why I never understood the hang ups with body count.  You could easily sleep with 35 people by the time you're 30.  Just average 3 per year from 18-30 and there you go.  It's really not that many.

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34 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

They are all socially awkward. My daughter is one of those socially awkward people out there being courted by equally socially awkward boys. Her generation's idea of a date is sitting across from each other showing memes to one another for an extended period of time. They don't call, they text. They don't give each other phone numbers, they share instagram or snap accounts. Once they feel its "okay" they skip talking on the phone all together and facetime. Then they facetime with the phone pointed up at the ceiling.

I legit feel bad for teens these days.  Not that I don't love having a cell phone, but there's something special about having the meet up IRL.  And when you set a time and place to meet, you'd better be on time, or you were fucked...but not in the good way.

In Dallas, in the 80's, our "social media" was doing laps in our cars on Forest Lane between like Inwood and Marsh trying to pick up chicks.  

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

I also was quite traumatized looking back at my strict catholic upbringing. Like crying myself to sleep routinely because I gave in to jerking off. Pretty sure I’d have entered a guilt coma if I had actually had sex with girl. 

We had a family friend that died a few years back that was worth about $15M and never married or had a significant other. He was a really strict Catholic and ended up leaving all $15M to the church. When we went to help clean up his place after he passed there was gay porn everywhere and it made us really sad that he sat there with millions and millions all the while he never lived his best life because church. 

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34 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Well, did you finish?

I'm sure I did, but that detail isn't key in the memory.  Blue balls suck.

The eye to eye, then eye to my junk, then eye to eye are scorched into my cerebral cortex.

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2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

We had a family friend that died a few years back that was worth about $15M and never married or had a significant other. He was a really strict Catholic and ended up leaving all $15M to the church. When we went to help clean up his place after he passed there was gay porn everywhere and it made us really sad that he sat there with millions and millions all the while he never lived his best life because church. 

There are a lot of these guys around here.  You see any lifetime bachelor over the age of 40 and I guarantee that they're a closeted gay man.  Unless of course they've always had female companions and just been unwilling to marry them.  I mean 0 feminine companionship when I say "bachelor".

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35 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Reading some of these stories makes me more thankful for how my teenage and college years played out.  I was a somewhat dorky HS kid in the 90's but my GF was kinda nerdy but DTF.  I literally had more sex than anyone in town but it was with one girl.  Wasn't with #2 until college.  As a result, I had a lot of sexual confidence both before and during.  As I got older and less dorky, it just becomes free and easy so I could never understand why all these dudes couldn't get laid.  It was confidence, or lack thereof.

Also, Team Pussy Hound here.  Didn't know there was a difference between horn dog and pussy hound but OK.

I'm also a big fan of sleeping around when you're younger.  You find what you like, what you don't like, what you can't live without, etc.  Same applies to women.  (Why wouldn't it?)  It's why I never understood the hang ups with body count.  You could easily sleep with 35 people by the time you're 30.  Just average 3 per year from 18-30 and there you go.  It's really not that many.

Shit, if your girl has a high body count, and then insists you're the best she's ever had... that just means she knows what she's talking about. And that goes in the other direction: Because of her high body count, she knew what to do with me.

High body count is a plus. Virgins also a plus. Everything in between? Plus. *just like getting laid ok

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11 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

There are a lot of these guys around here.  You see any lifetime bachelor over the age of 40 and I guarantee that they're a closeted gay man.  Unless of course they've always had female companions and just been unwilling to marry them.  I mean 0 feminine companionship when I say "bachelor".

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44 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Reading some of these stories makes me more thankful for how my teenage and college years played out.  I was a somewhat dorky HS kid in the 90's but my GF was kinda nerdy but DTF.  I literally had more sex than anyone in town but it was with one girl.  Wasn't with #2 until college.  As a result, I had a lot of sexual confidence both before and during.  As I got older and less dorky, it just becomes free and easy so I could never understand why all these dudes couldn't get laid.  It was confidence, or lack thereof.

Also, Team Pussy Hound here.  Didn't know there was a difference between horn dog and pussy hound but OK.

I'm also a big fan of sleeping around when you're younger.  You find what you like, what you don't like, what you can't live without, etc.  Same applies to women.  (Why wouldn't it?)  It's why I never understood the hang ups with body count.  You could easily sleep with 35 people by the time you're 30.  Just average 3 per year from 18-30 and there you go.  It's really not that many.

I don't know that there is either, I was just riffing.  This isn't exactly settled science, but more what the terms conjure in my mind.

Agree on the body count thing.  I don't think I've ever taken anyone's virginity, and I'm kinda glad in hindsight.

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8 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Shit, if your girl has a high body count, and then insists you're the best she's ever had... that just means she knows what she's talking about. And that goes in the other direction: Because of her high body count, she knew what to do with me.

High body count is a plus. Virgins also a plus. Everything in between? Plus. *just like getting laid ok

I would not get serious with a woman with a low body count unless she had a LONG stretch of a long term relationship.  If she's 35 or something, never been married, and been with like 3 people, hard pass.  

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47 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I legit feel bad for teens these days.  Not that I don't love having a cell phone, but there's something special about having the meet up IRL.  And when you set a time and place to meet, you'd better be on time, or you were fucked...but not in the good way.

In Dallas, in the 80's, our "social media" was doing laps in our cars on Forest Lane between like Inwood and Marsh trying to pick up chicks.  

I absolutely will never miss trying to call a girl and not being able to get through because her dumbshit fugly band nerd stepsister is on the phone for 6 hours talking band nerd shit with her fugly band nerd buddies. Stepfather thought call waiting was a luxury they didn't need.

Once we started dating, she told her mom that if her stepsister was gonna hog the phone all fucking day, she was just gonna spend all her free time with me.

They somehow found the money for a 2nd phone line after we had been dating for a few months....in exchange for her spending as little time with me as possible.

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Just now, rage-a-holic said:

They somehow found the money for a 2nd phone line after we had been dating for a few months....in exchange for her spending as little time with me as possible.

They should use this example in Economics classes.

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2 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

I absolutely will never miss trying to call a girl and not being able to get through because her dumbshit fugly band nerd stepsister is on the phone for 6 hours talking band nerd shit with her fugly band nerd buddies. Stepfather thought call waiting was a luxury they didn't need.

Once we started dating, she told her mom that if her stepsister was gonna hog the phone all fucking day, she was just gonna spend all her free time with me.

They somehow found the money for a 2nd phone line after we had been dating for a few months....in exchange for her spending as little time with me as possible.

I remember checking the phone to see if it was working while expecting a call, and then immediately panicking, thinking they may have tried to call while I was checking to make sure the phone was working.  Having 2 lines was definitely a game changer.

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23 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

I absolutely will never miss trying to call a girl and not being able to get through because her dumbshit fugly band nerd stepsister is on the phone for 6 hours talking band nerd shit with her fugly band nerd buddies. Stepfather thought call waiting was a luxury they didn't need.

Once we started dating, she told her mom that if her stepsister was gonna hog the phone all fucking day, she was just gonna spend all her free time with me.

They somehow found the money for a 2nd phone line after we had been dating for a few months....in exchange for her spending as little time with me as possible.

A girlfriend that you couldn't talk to on the phone because it was busy all the time? I would've loved that shit.

 

"Oh sorry I tried calling but it was busy. Anyway, your place or mine on lunch break?"

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6 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

If this trend continues, I might just start hoping my daughter is a lesbian.

Probably not the right thread for this discussion, but my 12 year old daughter told us she thinks she has a crush on one of her girl friends. We know the other girl and her parents and apparently the other little girl has said the same thing. We said that we don't care and to not let anyone talk her into dating before she's ready or how to feel about other kids one way or another. So we're prepared if that's where she ends up. I'm so glad I came around on this issue 20 something years ago and not "oh I guess it's okay now because it might personally affect me and my family."

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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Probably not the right thread for this discussion, but my 12 year old daughter told us she thinks she has a crush on one of her girl friends. We know the other girl and her parents and apparently the other little girl has said the same thing. We said that we don't care and to not let anyone talk her into dating before she's ready or how to feel about other kids one way or another. So we're prepared if that's where she ends up. I'm so glad I came around on this issue 20 something years ago and not "oh I guess it's okay now because it might personally affect me and my family."

You're definitely doing the right thing there, IMO.  One of my best friends is pretty sure his daughter's gay, and I think he's probably right.  He and his wife have 0 hang ups with it so I'm sure that she'll be pretty comfortable coming out if that's actually the case.  She's also 12.  His older brother is gay, and his parents did not handle it well (Baby Boomer Czech/Irish Catholics from northeast Iowa, so no shit, right?), so he's kind of a got a model for what not to do.  Good luck and I hope you're daughter is comfortable in being her authentic self.

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11 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

A girlfriend that you couldn't talk to on the phone because it was busy all the time? I would've loved that shit.

 

"Oh sorry I tried calling but it was busy. Anyway, your place or mine on lunch break?"

It's pretty hard to arrange to pick her up and go have sex if you can't get her on the phone.

But maybe you weren't into that, no judgements here.

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I'm sure I did, but that detail isn't key in the memory.  Blue balls suck.

The eye to eye, then eye to my junk, then eye to eye are scorched into my cerebral cortex.

You should have kept stroking while you maintained eye contact.....

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8 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

You're definitely doing the right thing there, IMO.  One of my best friends is pretty sure his daughter's gay, and I think he's probably right.  He and his wife have 0 hang ups with it so I'm sure that she'll be pretty comfortable coming out if that's actually the case.  She's also 12.  His older brother is gay, and his parents did not handle it well (Baby Boomer Czech/Irish Catholics from northeast Iowa, so no shit, right?), so he's kind of a got a model for what not to do.  Good luck and I hope you're daughter is comfortable in being her authentic self.

I honestly think it's 50-50 at this point. She's never been comfortable when her girlfriends would hold hands with boys and call them their boyfriends. She also doesn't really act that way with this other girl, as far as we can tell, so she may just not be interested yet in romantic relationships. I think it's possible that with that mindset, she has more fun with this particular girl and considers it a romantic crush, or she might just be confusing emotions. or it could be genuine romantic attraction. She's 12 for crying out loud, we're just making sure to not try and persuade her one way or another. 

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Just now, 'stache said:

I honestly think it's 50-50 at this point. She's never been comfortable when her girlfriends would hold hands with boys and call them their boyfriends. She also doesn't really act that way with this other girl, as far as we can tell. so she may just not be interested yet in romantic relationships. I think it's possible that with that mindset, she has more fun with this particular girl and considers it a romantic crush, and might just be confusing emotions. Or it could be genuine romantic attraction. She's 12 for crying out loud, we're just making sure to not try and persuade her one way or another. 

Exactly.  Just get out of the way and let them be themselves.

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1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

We had a family friend that died a few years back that was worth about $15M and never married or had a significant other. He was a really strict Catholic and ended up leaving all $15M to the church. When we went to help clean up his place after he passed there was gay porn everywhere and it made us really sad that he sat there with millions and millions all the while he never lived his best life because church. 

The wife has an uncle.  He's prolly mid 60's and fairly effeminate but not over the top.  Never married.  Never dated.  He's a teacher but during the summer takes LONG extended vacations and sometimes even picks up a teaching assignment in another town.  (Like, this is really obvious.)

Her parents literally have no idea that he's gay.  It's the most obvious thing ever but they just can't see that and we've even suggested it and they get indignant.  It's to the point it's a running joke now.

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3 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

It's pretty hard to arrange to pick her up and go have sex if you can't get her on the phone.

But maybe you weren't into that, no judgements here.

Our HS made it easy with hour lunches and no restrictions on leaving campus. I lived .8 miles from school so it was like a dream my Junior and Senior year. 

 

I remember one time my parents were off work (unbeknownst to me) and had left to get lunch of their own and came back right when we were in the middle. Luckily we had locked the garage door so it wasn't too traumatizing on them. Well 3 minutes later I open the door and they're hot wondering why the door was locked and why she was wearing one of my old shirts.  They told me I was grounded indefinitely, well two days later was Friday night and I asked them if I could go out with her and they just said, "have fun."

 

I'm pretty sure they were just relieved that I had a gf at that point.

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1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

Our HS made it easy with hour lunches and no restrictions on leaving campus. I lived .8 miles from school so it was like a dream my Junior and Senior year. 

Late 80's in Dallas, no HS that I knew of allowed off-campus lunches unless you were in a work program.

My GF was busy as fuck with drill team and studying; if I didn't get her on the phone and arrange something, I wasn't getting any.

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18 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

It's pretty hard to arrange to pick her up and go have sex if you can't get her on the phone.

But maybe you weren't into that, no judgements here.

Duh

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16 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The wife has an uncle.  He's prolly mid 60's and fairly effeminate but not over the top.  Never married.  Never dated.  He's a teacher but during the summer takes LONG extended vacations and sometimes even picks up a teaching assignment in another town.  (Like, this is really obvious.)

Her parents literally have no idea that he's gay.  It's the most obvious thing ever but they just can't see that and we've even suggested it and they get indignant.  It's to the point it's a running joke now.

That was my high school history teacher. Lived in Section 8 housing in our small town for $90/month rent. Would rathole money all year for him and his mother to take long trips to Europe. He was a great guy, loved, and respected in our small farming community. Occasionally, there would be young men come and visit him and stay overnight. Everybody knew, but no one said a thing. Knowing that I was going to minor in history, and I was one of his best students, he came over and had many meals at my family's house. The second true passionate historian I ever knew. The first was my 7th grade Texas history teacher, in a larger town. He was also a 60 year old single man that kept to himself.

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26 minutes ago, 'stache said:

She's 12 for crying out loud, we're just making sure to not try and persuade her one way or another. 

By the time I was 12, and I was a late bloomer, I knew.

She knows, but middle school sucks enough if you're "normal."

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7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

By the time I was 12, and I was a late bloomer, I knew.

She knows, but middle school sucks enough if you're "normal."

Don't know when you were in middle school, but I think there's a lot more gender fluidity these days, so she may just have a crush, but may not be an actual lesbian.  

Either way, who cares, as long as she's happy. 

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41 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

You should have kept stroking while you maintained eye contact.....

Expressing sexual dominance over my mother was definitely NOT my thing.

Further, had I done that and my father found out there would have been little evidence left that I ever existed.

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1 hour ago, rage-a-holic said:

I absolutely will never miss trying to call a girl and not being able to get through because her dumbshit fugly band nerd stepsister is on the phone for 6 hours talking band nerd shit with her fugly band nerd buddies. Stepfather thought call waiting was a luxury they didn't need.

Once we started dating, she told her mom that if her stepsister was gonna hog the phone all fucking day, she was just gonna spend all her free time with me.

They somehow found the money for a 2nd phone line after we had been dating for a few months....in exchange for her spending as little time with me as possible.

now me, I'd go for the band nerd stepsister.

1. band chicks, especially low brass, are the best kissers

2. a nonzero chance that, two decades later, she's written a diss track about you and performed it

what's not to love?

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7 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Don't know when you were in middle school, but I think there's a lot more gender fluidity these days, so she may just have a crush, but may not be an actual lesbian.  

Either way, who cares, as long as she's happy. 

when I was in middle school/high school, this was a popular album

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it's not the fluidity/sexuality thing so much, it's the EVERYTHING about middle school

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11 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

now me, I'd go for the band nerd stepsister.

1. band chicks, especially low brass, are the best kissers

2. a nonzero chance that, two decades later, she's written a diss track about you and performed it

what's not to love?

she looked like shelley duvall with Downs

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1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I would not get serious with a woman with a low body count unless she had a LONG stretch of a long term relationship.  If she's 35 or something, never been married, and been with like 3 people, hard pass.  

I've done both. Both have advantages. There's no real disadvantages to either. You get laid either way.

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

I remember checking the phone to see if it was working while expecting a call, and then immediately panicking, thinking they may have tried to call while I was checking to make sure the phone was working.  Having 2 lines was definitely a game changer.

I have a very close female friend who was a super hot young thing - she grew up in bumfuck Mississippi where they had party lines.   She told me that she and her friends developed a literal codebook of words that meant different things - so they could talk about getting together on the party line with all the busy bodies listening to every word.  One of them tattled to her mother, who responded, “Why are you listening to my daughter’s conversation?”  

I can’t even imagine having to endure that.

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6 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I have a very close female friend who was a super hot young thing - she grew up in bumfuck Mississippi where they had party lines.   She told me that she and her friends developed a literal codebook of words that meant different things - so they could talk about getting together on the party line with all the busy bodies listening to every word.  One of them tattled to her mother, who responded, “Why are you listening to my daughter’s conversation?”  

I can’t even imagine having to endure that.

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

I didn’t really mature emotionally until late college right around the time my now wife and I got serious. I was very introverted and lacked any semblance of self esteem in those early years. Fear of rejection was pretty high in the list for why I wasn’t dating or banging at that age. I also was quite traumatized looking back at my strict catholic upbringing. Like crying myself to sleep routinely because I gave in to jerking off. Pretty sure I’d have entered a guilt coma if I had actually had sex with girl. I hate that it’s probably still a major issue for millions of kids. At least I wasn’t molested by a priest, goddamn I hate that part of my life.

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2 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

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Catholic guilt.

I knew a guy in high school that freaked out after having sex with his girlfriend. He dumped her and went all in on Catholicism and started talking about becoming a priest because of the guilt he was experiencing.

Looking back on his description of events, it sounded like he experienced post-coital tristesse that was combined with Catholic guilt which was a mind fuck for him. Religion has a lot of bad side effects.

 

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