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17 minutes ago, elfenix said:

One of my cousins lived in Altadena right near Fair Oaks and Altadena. He left back in 2020 to move closer to home and get some family assistance raising his daughters. There was nothing left of his old house except the fireplace. I sent him the first series Marketplace did on the fires back in April. I'm sure he knew many of these businesses.

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Fair Oaks north of Washington is a wasteland.  So sad.

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  • OK so we’re good.  At the Dena (old Sheraton) in Pasadena.  The whole hotel is full of Altadenaeans and their animals.  Shit is fucking crazy.  We’ve got 2 cats and a dog in our room. Cats are out of

  • Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will neve

  • So we scored, in a way.  We met with ServPro today, and our place is so much more trashed than we thought.  The outside air smells perfectly fine, but our house smells like a campfire.  He went around

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Gonna dump tonight.  Big concern about mudslides.  Not where we are but a little further up, with no vegetation on the hillside.  I just went up in the dark with a headlamp to clear leaves from my downspouts.  Good thing I did.  They were fairly plugged .  We've had major leaks when that's happened despite having a relatively new roof. 

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@Sbbruin I'm reading about bear activity  up your way.  No, not the big, hairy gay dudes.  The actual bear-type bears with claws and teeth.  Some poor bastard in Alta Dena has a bear in his crawlspace.   Anything in your neighborhood?

12 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

@Sbbruin I'm reading about bear activity  up your way.  No, not the big, hairy gay dudes.  The actual bear-type bears with claws and teeth.  Some poor bastard in Alta Dena has a bear in his crawlspace.   Anything in your neighborhood?

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On 12/2/2025 at 7:07 AM, Gil Bang said:

@Sbbruin I'm reading about bear activity  up your way.  No, not the big, hairy gay dudes.  The actual bear-type bears with claws and teeth.  Some poor bastard in Alta Dena has a bear in his crawlspace.   Anything in your neighborhood?

Ha just seeing this.  Dude, we’ve lived here for 23 years and never used to see bears.  Now we have them on our block multiple times a week.  They’ve knocked over our trash cans several times.  The night after Halloween my daughter’s friend was picking her up.  My daughter walked out the front door and there was a bear 4 feet away on our porch, eating leftover ribs I had thrown in the trash.  
 

Not sure if the vid will load, but that is my house he’s in front of.

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What is this "leftover rib" you speak of?

1 hour ago, Agent 13 said:

What is this "leftover rib" you speak of?

Ashamedly I left them in the fridge too long and they were questionable.  Yogi thought they were ahight though.

18 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Ashamedly I left them in the fridge too long and they were questionable

Is this some liberal California theory?

Rains from Tuesday through Friday may be 6”-10”.  These hills could be a REAL problem.

5 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Rains from Tuesday through Friday may be 6”-10”.  These hills could be a REAL problem.

but the missus will be happy

rain hasn't been so bad (yet) but it was blowing like a mofo earlier.  I have a palm tree...I'm guessing it's 25' or so...snapped the top 8' or so off of it.  Fortunately, the part that dropped fell in a perfect place, and didn't really damage anything, except the string lights that were attached to the tree. 4 feet either way would have damaged structures. 

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Denver dodged a bullet this weekend!

largest fire in city in decades

if the record setting winds from a couple weeks ago had been blowing this could have quickly turned catastrophic...this is a densely populated residential and commercial area and we haven't had any measurable precipitation in months.

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about 2 miles from us, pic is from yesterday, it's still smoldering today, they are making damn sure it doesn't reignite.

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One year ago tonight, as we're already packing up my wife and daughter to send them to a hotel while I planned to man the fort at home with no power and the animals. My wife tells me "x just texted that there's a fire in Eaton Canyon." I sort of shrug and continue to help get stuff put together. Then I hear her scream. I run outside and look up on the hill. It wasn't this yet, but damn, that did NOT look good. "OK, let's get you guys packed and out of here." Fortunately I had made a hotel reservation already just because of the power outage that we were sure was going to last a couple of days. I head back in a grab some bags, and not 5 minutes later look up and see this. Uh, shit. This thing is blowing up. We gotta go. Got the 2 cats in a big dog carrier and get the dog in the car. Wife takes off, and I follow a few minutes later. Still, we had absolutely NO idea that it would become what it did. We wouldn't move back for a few months. But our home did survive. So much of our town did not.

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2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

One year ago tonight, as we're already packing up my wife and daughter to send them to a hotel while I planned to man the fort at home with no power and the animals. My wife tells me "x just texted that there's a fire in Eaton Canyon." I sort of shrug and continue to help get stuff put together. Then I hear her scream. I run outside and look up on the hill. It wasn't this yet, but damn, that did NOT look good. "OK, let's get you guys packed and out of here." Fortunately I had made a hotel reservation already just because of the power outage that we were sure was going to last a couple of days. I head back in a grab some bags, and not 5 minutes later look up and see this. Uh, shit. This thing is blowing up. We gotta go. Got the 2 cats in a big dog carrier and get the dog in the car. Wife takes off, and I follow a few minutes later. Still, we had absolutely NO idea that it would become what it did. We wouldn't move back for a few months. But our home did survive. So much of our town did not.

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We weren't so lucky, but I hope to be neighbors again by 2027. Hopefully pouring foundation in April!

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Went to visit a "friend" last weekend who lives off Glenrose, looks so empty up there. Her brother lived across the street, and he lost his house. I can't imagine what it was like for you guys. So sorry man

36 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

We weren't so lucky, but I hope to be neighbors again by 2027. Hopefully pouring foundation in April!

where did you relocate?

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Los Angeles Fire Commission President Genethia Hudley Hayes said a draft report had been sent to Mayor Karen Bass’ office for "refinements," raising concerns about outside influence

Earlier Tuesday, Fire Chief Jaime Moore, responding to the findings of a Times investigation, acknowledged that the after-action report had been edited to soften criticism of the LAFD leadership’s handling of the Palisades fire.

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

We weren't so lucky, but I hope to be neighbors again by 2027. Hopefully pouring foundation in April!

Brutal. So sorry. 7 homes are now complete. Hope yours is soon to follow.

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

where did you relocate?

We were fortunate with our insurance coverage (unbeknowst to us) and ended up in Pasadena. Disruptive for the kids since they had to change schools, but we have it so much better than many of our neighbors.

2 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

We were fortunate with our insurance coverage (unbeknowst to us) and ended up in Pasadena. Disruptive for the kids since they had to change schools, but we have it so much better than many of our neighbors.

PUSD?

26 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

We were fortunate with our insurance coverage (unbeknowst to us) and ended up in Pasadena. Disruptive for the kids since they had to change schools, but we have it so much better than many of our neighbors.

Where was your house?

35 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Just south of the Waldorf School.

Rough. That area got worked. We're just east of the golf course b/w Allen and Sinaloa about 4 blocks south of Medocino.

Marketplace on NPR had had some interesting segments this week on people trying to rebuild businesses in Altadena. The Morning Report has some on homeowners trying to rebuild.

5 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

Went to visit a "friend" last weekend who lives off Glenrose, looks so empty up there. Her brother lived across the street, and he lost his house. I can't imagine what it was like for you guys. So sorry man

The In-N-Out's on Camrose.

PBS Austin has some shows on tonight about the fire issues

On 10/9/2025 at 9:52 PM, Nicole44 said:

I get it. But It’s a holdover fire. a zombie fire.  It went deep into the vegetation and underground. Scary shit. They usually only happen in the Arctic tundra and Alaska. Like fire gets put out. Snow happens and somehow the fire reignites after the snow melts. Crazy shit. 
 

it is not common at all. There is no way for them to know it would fucking reignite. Later. Fire and arson investigators are the best there is. They found the source. Crazy to believe but it really happened that way and fuck that firebug idiot, arsonist. 
 

 

Not necessarily. I grew up clearing brush, and have burned dozens of brush piles. I would say 15% or so would smolder for weeks. You did your best to clear anything that would burn from the hotspot, and check it a few times a day. We always burned after a heavy rain, but the sap would burn forever. Green cedars are the worst.

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After a sleepless night in the hotel, watching news reports of our neighborhood ablaze, I finally couldn't take it anymore and jumped in the car around 7 am to drive up there and see if a) we still had a home, and b) if it was there, what could I do to save it or any of our neighbors' homes. While I was more than relieved to find our home still standing, the destruction on our street was gut wrenching. After hosing down every square inch of our house, I went up the street (along with a few others) and helplessly, hopelessly tried to put water on those houses that were adjacent to blazes but hadn't yet caught. At this point, we were on our own as the firefighters were a few hundred yards away doing what they could to knock down the countless blazes consuming EVERYTHING. It was a surreal experience. We raised our kids on this street. It means the world to us. And to watch it burn was something I'll never forget.

We finally convinced the firefighters that they could save at least one or two homes if they got there quickly. There was a downed powerline running across the street (as the power poles had burned down), so they had to circle the block. But they got there and definitely saved one. Another we thought could be saved, but the fire had reached the attic, and within minutes it was engulfed. January 8, 2025, was a day.

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3 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

After a sleepless night in the hotel, watching news reports of our neighborhood ablaze, I finally couldn't take it anymore and jumped in the car around 7 am to drive up there and see if a) we still had a home, and b) if it was there, what could I do to save it or any of our neighbors' homes. While I was more than relieved to find our home still standing, the destruction on our street was gut wrenching. After hosing down every square inch of our house, I went up the street (along with a few others) and helplessly, hopelessly tried to put water on those houses that were adjacent to blazes but hadn't yet caught. At this point, we were on our own as the firefighters were a few hundred yards away doing what they could to knock down the countless blazes consuming EVERYTHING. It was a surreal experience. We raised our kids on this street. It means the world to us. And to watch it burn was something I'll never forget.

We finally convinced the firefighters that they could save at least one or two homes if they got there quickly. There was a downed powerline running across the street (as the power poles had burned down), so they had to circle the block. But they got there and definitely saved one. Another we thought could be saved, but the fire had reached the attic, and within minutes it was engulfed. January 8, 2025, was a day.

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I'm still shocked at how a community can just get leveled overnight. My first thoughts were, "I hope my house is still standing," but I've come to realize that the proper sentiment is, "I hope anyone and everyone's house is still standing even if mine is gone." It's easier to rebuild here and there, but when entire blocks are obliterated, it's just a different level of loss because the community vanishes.

24 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

I'm still shocked at how a community can just get leveled overnight. My first thoughts were, "I hope my house is still standing," but I've come to realize that the proper sentiment is, "I hope anyone and everyone's house is still standing even if mine is gone." It's easier to rebuild here and there, but when entire blocks are obliterated, it's just a different level of loss because the community vanishes.

Exactly. It's a loss so much greater than just a house. It's a loss of the identity of an entire community. The elementary school where my kids spent collectively 11 years at, where they did pageants, plays, performances, where my son did Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, and where he received his Eagle Scout, gone. The country club, which not only was the largest employer in all of Altadena, but where we made friendships, my kids competed in the swim program, where they both got their first jobs, gone. Our favorite breakfast spot. Gone. And so much more.

Whatever rises from the ashes will be something new. Something potentially exciting. But something very different than what we lost. And much of that will never come back.

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