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13 minutes ago, Drew said:

Needed it. That carolina loss is haunting. 

Looking at the schedule, I feel like that one is going to bite us. 

If we can get this effort from D in most games, we are going to be surprised with the results. 

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2 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Looking at the schedule, I feel like that one is going to bite us. 

If we can get this effort from D in most games, we are going to be surprised with the results. 

will have to beat 2 of philly, chiefs, Lions.  they have to have the toughest schedule left.  It would be a miracle if they make it to even 9-7-1 IMO.

only 5 teams in NFC have losing records.

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31 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

it's so fucking dumb.  no way they were clever enough to do it on purpose when the place was built to get more attention for it.   but they keep it there because it gets more attention.  it should have been fixed year 1 with curtains or a shitload of tin foil 

From what I understand there are curtains/blinds but skeletor refuses to close it. Yet another great decision 

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33 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

they will have to go 7-3 to finish to have a chance at playoffs.  just don't see it with this D and the schedule we have left.

I think a 9-7-1 team has a chance. But that still means going 6-4 

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Turd Ferguson is on pace to set the all-time NFL record for single-season catches by a TE. He’s on pace for 123 receptions (but only 812 yards — lol). The record was set by Zach Ertz (116 in 2018).

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4 hours ago, Dilligas said:

From what I understand there are curtains/blinds but skeletor refuses to close it. Yet another great decision 

This is correct. There are curtains but Jerry won’t use them for football games. 

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9 hours ago, C-Man said:

Turd Ferguson is on pace to set the all-time NFL record for single-season catches by a TE. He’s on pace for 123 receptions (but only 812 yards — lol). The record was set by Zach Ertz (116 in 2018).

All he does is catch the ball and TD's for 2 yards.

 

Also I know this season probably is a lost cause in the end due to the defense and a rough schedule coming up. But I really wouldn't mind them making a trade or two...even if it's one of those extra first or a high 2nd/3rd rounder.

Not for a "Rental" who you're not going keep...not for a guy for just this year.

But for like a Max Crosby type?  He's not as good as Micah, but is only 28, and signed through 2029?  I'd do that.  Even if it's a guy on with 1 year left like Pickens who you could seriously consider resigning.  A good player who can truly help.

They definitely need a Pass rusher, a LB, and a DB/Safety.  They got the assets...and hell they want Diggs gone, see what you can get for him.  A middle round pick or a starting caliber LB or some shit.

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32 minutes ago, Drew said:

All he does is catch the ball and TD's for 2 yards.

 

Also I know this season probably is a lost cause in the end due to the defense and a rough schedule coming up. But I really wouldn't mind them making a trade or two...even if it's one of those extra first or a high 2nd/3rd rounder.

Not for a "Rental" who you're not going keep...not for a guy for just this year.

But for like a Max Crosby type?  He's not as good as Micah, but is only 28, and signed through 2029?  I'd do that.  Even if it's a guy on with 1 year left like Pickens who you could seriously consider resigning.  A good player who can truly help.

They definitely need a Pass rusher, a LB, and a DB/Safety.  They got the assets...and hell they want Diggs gone, see what you can get for him.  A middle round pick or a starting caliber LB or some shit.

I’d rather they use those assets in the draft.

 

IMHO, this season is lost due to the D.

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Starting to see a lot of clamoring among fans for Jerry to sign Pickens ASAP. Pickens has been great and I'm not against it, but have we learned nothing? Jerry is gonna pay him like $70mm/year.

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29 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Starting to see a lot of clamoring among fans for Jerry to sign Pickens ASAP. Pickens has been great and I'm not against it, but have we learned nothing? Jerry is gonna pay him like $70mm/year.

Pickens is better than CeeDee but he's a complete wild card on and off the field. You can't pay him the money he's going to command. But damn that offense is fun to watch so far. Schottenheimer has absolutely blown me away as a playcaller to this point.

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1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’d rather they use those assets in the draft.

 

IMHO, this season is lost due to the D.

Which is what I said...I'd ONLY be down for it if it was a long term piece and NOT a Rental, even if it were a Pickens impactful rental.

I would gladly take a 1st-3rd on a real proven player who's locked up for 2-3 more years than hoping a rookie hits.  and you KNOW our track record wtih 2nd rounders being tossed for "first rounders if healthy" type players.

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Clarence Hill was on with Newy after the SNF game last night and said something interesting about Schottenheimer vs McCarthy. He said Schottenheimer is way less uptight than McCarthy and that IF this team were to sneak into the playoffs he didn't think you'd see the team play with puckered buttholes like they did vs San Fran and Green Bay under McCarthy. Gives a lot of credit for Dak's fantastic season to this point to the new team atmosphere under Schottenheimer.

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6 hours ago, C-Man said:

Clarence Hill was on with Newy after the SNF game last night and said something interesting about Schottenheimer vs McCarthy. He said Schottenheimer is way less uptight than McCarthy and that IF this team were to sneak into the playoffs he didn't think you'd see the team play with puckered buttholes like they did vs San Fran and Green Bay under McCarthy. Gives a lot of credit for Dak's fantastic season to this point to the new team atmosphere under Schottenheimer.

Right now, though too small a sample, I would rate Shottenheimer the best Cowboys head coach since at least Wade Phillips. He already seems like a considerable upgrade over McCarthy. But none of that is really saying much. But I am hopeful for the potential of him being pretty good in the long run. 

 

 

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I really thought Pickens had that potential to be a badass number 1b type receiver when he was at shitsburgh, just totally wasted there. So I'm not shocked he's getting a lot of love.

If he keeps putting on shows like he has so far he's not going to be cheap.

But Jerry loves his flashy offensive players. Maybe he's affordable enough as long as Lamb outshines him as the clear number 1.

That Ferguson extension seems like a bargain, now. 

Javonte could pose a similar cap problem, but he looks really good. Too good to see him busting ass for a conference rival. 

You get all those guys wrapped up, then you saturation draft the defensive side, get them pretty cheap for a few years. 

 

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I see some people asking if we should dangle the 2 first round picks we got from Green Bay to try and get some defensive help this season. I wouldn't do this. For one, we aren't getting some top tier talent at the trade deadline that will get us over the hump. And then we'd probably be getting an older player the trade partner's team doesn't want to extend, and he would be due a lot of money. I'd rather go find defensive help in the draft, someone who will be younger, cheaper and we get  their rights longer. 

Really need to find a way to beat Denver this week, although not seeing it. We always lose to Denver, especially on the road. Dak plays poor vs Denver. Losing that Carolina game will probably hurt come finding a way into the playoffs. Have to find a way to win that game.

This team is pretty much what we had in 2011-2013 but I think our offense is better but the defense might be worse. But the point being, defense is too bad to get us anywhere and they can't bail our offense out in the games where they aren't scoring a lot. Years where very rarely both sides of the ball are in sync.

 

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22 hours ago, dcar00 said:

will have to beat 2 of philly, chiefs, Lions.  they have to have the toughest schedule left.  It would be a miracle if they make it to even 9-7-1 IMO.

only 5 teams in NFC have losing records.

I think we can beat Philly at home. When Dak is playing, Dallas plays Philly very well. Dak does very well against them. KC will be at home, too. By then, I'd anticipate KC will be in full gear and healthy. They are already getting there now and starting to show they will once again be a contender in the AFC.

Our offense can win against anyone but the main question is, will the defense do enough where the offense doesn't have to score TDs on almost every drive? Need them to come up with key stops, turnovers and even score themselves (like yesterday). I am just surprised this team is still in the playoff mix this long into the season, I had zero expectations and really only thought they'd win 5 games this year, which seemed true after the Bears game.

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44 minutes ago, DougO said:

Right now, though too small a sample, I would rate Shottenheimer the best Cowboys head coach since at least Wade Phillips. He already seems like a considerable upgrade over McCarthy. But none of that is really saying much. But I am hopeful for the potential of him being pretty good in the long run. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

I see some people asking if we should dangle the 2 first round picks we got from Green Bay to try and get some defensive help this season. I wouldn't do this. For one, we aren't getting some top tier talent at the trade deadline that will get us over the hump. And then we'd probably be getting an older player the trade partner's team doesn't want to extend, and he would be due a lot of money. I'd rather go find defensive help in the draft, someone who will be younger, cheaper and we get  their rights longer. 

Really need to find a way to beat Denver this week, although not seeing it. We always lose to Denver, especially on the road. Dak plays poor vs Denver. Losing that Carolina game will probably hurt come finding a way into the playoffs. Have to find a way to win that game.

This team is pretty much what we had in 2011-2013 but I think our offense is better but the defense might be worse. But the point being, defense is too bad to get us anywhere and they can't bail our offense out in the games where they aren't scoring a lot. Years where very rarely both sides of the ball are in sync.

 

Agreed.

Maybe dangle a later pick for an upgrade somewhere in defense without a hug salary, and locked up for another year or two. But that's not terribly likely.

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16 hours ago, DougO said:

I really thought Pickens had that potential to be a badass number 1b type receiver when he was at shitsburgh, just totally wasted there. So I'm not shocked he's getting a lot of love.

If he keeps putting on shows like he has so far he's not going to be cheap.

But Jerry loves his flashy offensive players. Maybe he's affordable enough as long as Lamb outshines him as the clear number 1.

That Ferguson extension seems like a bargain, now. 

Javonte could pose a similar cap problem, but he looks really good. Too good to see him busting ass for a conference rival. 

You get all those guys wrapped up, then you saturation draft the defensive side, get them pretty cheap for a few years. 

 

Javonte could be kept if his number stays around 10.  If he gets above that there's no way they would keep him, and probably shouldn't.  The OL should be better by the end of the year with more experience and they can find another guy.  But I do hope they keep him if he keeps this up.

15 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

I see some people asking if we should dangle the 2 first round picks we got from Green Bay to try and get some defensive help this season. I wouldn't do this. For one, we aren't getting some top tier talent at the trade deadline that will get us over the hump. And then we'd probably be getting an older player the trade partner's team doesn't want to extend, and he would be due a lot of money. I'd rather go find defensive help in the draft, someone who will be younger, cheaper and we get  their rights longer. 

Really need to find a way to beat Denver this week, although not seeing it. We always lose to Denver, especially on the road. Dak plays poor vs Denver. Losing that Carolina game will probably hurt come finding a way into the playoffs. Have to find a way to win that game.

This team is pretty much what we had in 2011-2013 but I think our offense is better but the defense might be worse. But the point being, defense is too bad to get us anywhere and they can't bail our offense out in the games where they aren't scoring a lot. Years where very rarely both sides of the ball are in sync.

 

I would agree in principle to not trading for "win now" players...especially Rentals.

but if they were to say, use one of those 1st on a Max Crosby type...a guy who could be "win now" AND is under 30 and under contract till 2029, that would make sense. 

In that case you're getting a PROVEN player, where they need  him, and have him under control for much less than Micah for a little bit less of a player.

You guys know I'm usually higher on Dallas drafting than anyone...but I think getting a proven commodity would be just as useful as using a high pick on a rookie who could be hit or miss.  

I just wouldn't do it for a mercenary type rental.

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I say trade to help the defense and try to win now. We’ll never be in full tank mode and this is the best the offense has looked in a long time. I’d be happy to eat crow about Schotty if it gets Dak and co. some real success. Wish we had gotten more future picks for Micah to use in trade but I also don’t think he’d make that big of a difference in this shitty defense.

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It all depends on if you think one or two guys can completely rehaul the defense. I don't really see it. If we were truly just one or two guys away, sure. I think the defenses from 2021-2023 was the time to do it, as they were in better shape than this. This is probably the best Dallas offense we have had under Dak, at least in terms of scoring and big plays. I think the 2016 offense was the most efficient and dominating in how they could control the games with their OL/run game. But Lamb/Pickens/Ferguson >>> Dez/Cole/Witten. If our defense was even just average, Dallas would have a real shot at contending this year.

Still a long way to go in this season but I don't see the defense turning this around. The amount of wide open guys week after week, no matter who we play. Washington was playing bottom of the depth chart WRs and they were still constantly open. Luckily, they didn't make us pay and the defense helped out with a score of their own.

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There may be a few guys out there on bottom dwelling teams that need a total reset. But I'm not looking to part with 1st-4th round picks. I would be all for getting a player with another year left that could possibly transform the team from bottom 3 defense to bottom third, maybe. 

One thing that frustrates me still is how many running backs drafted from mid rounds all the way to 7th are looking really good. Imagine Javonte rotating with one of those guys drafted for a throwaway pick. But they Cowboys tend to just throw those picks away instead of drafting value where the most value exists.

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On 10/20/2025 at 11:44 AM, Bill Brasky said:

seeing rumors that the 21 day practice window has been opened for Overshown 

Saw Overshown at Baylor (The Star) yesterday. He's hilarious and quite the personality. Everyone loves him there, obviously he's a known commodity.

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