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16 minutes ago, Derka said:
15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Noem keeps talking about how the ICE agents were stuck in the snow. In the videos there is barely any snow on the ground. What is the purpose of this bizarre lie?

14 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Because they know there are no repercussions for it.

Theologically, we really need to start calling the members of the regime what they are: demons. Actual, literal demons. Because their most precious currency is lies. It is their essence. Lying is a religious rite to them.

And what do the literal gospels tell us about lies as sacraments? You know, Christians -- the Gospels. The actual books of the bible that are key to creating the distinction between Christianity and judaism. Let's go to John 8:44.

44"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

Yep. That's this regime. To the fucking letter.

There is no truth in them. When they lie, they speak their native language, for they are liars and servants of the father of lies.

If any of you actually believe in demons, and wonder what they would look like if they walked among us, they aren't red-skinned beasts with horns. They are Kristi Noem, JD Vance, Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, and an army of their lesser minions in ICE, DHS, and everywhere else they have infiltrated and festered. If you have ever longed to battle against pure evil....well, it's right here in front of us. Fucking fight.

53 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You're over thinking it. Peter Thiel is the reason. Go look at Vance's time in Silicon Valley.

Yep. JD was a fat dork that probably got shoved in lockers in HS. His motivation is simply power and doesn't care what kind of chameleon suit he has to wear to get it.

23 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Noem keeps talking about how the ICE agents were stuck in the snow. In the videos there is barely any snow on the ground. What is the purpose of this bizarre lie?

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ICE…“allowed to arrest immigrant children. Court-prohibited from seeing their own children”

Catholic Paper Calls JD Vance a Moral Stain for ICE Victim Smear

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A leading Catholic paper has branded JD Vance a “moral stain” and accused the vice president of having a “twisted and wrongheaded view of Christianity” for his comments on a woman killed by ICE. Renee

On one hand, who gives a fuck what a Catholic paper thinks of the couch fucker? OTOH, I'm a believer in there's no "bad" press when it comes to shit like this. It all adds up. If this opens one idiot's eyes up to the uphauling government we have in place today, then it worked.

Vance does this really fucking annoying thing where he says "The woman was obviously trying to kill the ICE agent, and no one is arguing that". Um, 1) No she wasn't, and 2) The entire country is arguing that.

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Vance does this really fucking annoying thing where he says "The woman was obviously trying to kill the ICE agent, and no one is arguing that". Um, 1) No she wasn't, and 2) The entire country is arguing that.

If the govenment kills you, they no longer have to prove you committed a crime. They can just declare you guilty. No need to prove shit, no due process. Unlimited government power.

As I have said it is becoming clear we have no rights as citizens of this country. The Constitution is a lie. We have temporary privileges they can remove whenever convenient.

8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Haven’t seen this posted.

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TLDR.

I prefer this version, as a powerful poetic metaphor:

"Time to raise the black flag and start slitting throats."

The current iteration of our government, which is a lawless regime, must be resisted by all non-violent means possible. We aren't going to convince evil people to stop being evil. That never, ever works. You have to fight them, overwhelm them, defeat them, and either drive them from the land or lock them in a cage.

Here is an interesting opinion. I agree with parts, but not others. Good didn't deserve to die. She may have hit the gas, but she barely swiped the agent and the car was past him when he started shooting. No car I've ever driven can all of the sudden go sideways. I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either. What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they should die. Look at all the gooners that go to Dallas every year, most make it back to OK fine.

Minnesota shooting was preventable. Let ICE do their job | Opinion

14 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Vance does this really fucking annoying thing where he says "The woman was obviously trying to kill the ICE agent, and no one is arguing that". Um, 1) No she wasn't, and 2) The entire country is arguing that.

And then reporters hit him with a followup question: "How do you know this?"

Vance: "Well, we're just going to have to figure that out."

(end scene)

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1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

Here is an interesting opinion. I agree with parts, but not others. Good didn't deserve to die. She may have hit the gas, but she barely swiped the agent and the car was past him when he started shooting. No car I've ever driven can all of the sudden go sideways. I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either. What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they should die. Look at all the gooners that go to Dallas every year, most make it back to OK fine.

Minnesota shooting was preventable. Let ICE do their job | Opinion

you fucking serious? ashli babbitt was trying to stop the transfer of power and participating in a coup attempt. Good was trying to drop her kid off at school and go home. fuck the both sides on this.

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2 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Here is an interesting opinion. I agree with parts, but not others. Good didn't deserve to die. She may have hit the gas, but she barely swiped the agent and the car was past him when he started shooting. No car I've ever driven can all of the sudden go sideways. I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either. What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they should die. Look at all the gooners that go to Dallas every year, most make it back to OK fine.

Minnesota shooting was preventable. Let ICE do their job | Opinion

Fuck that article and fuck everything you said about Babbitt. She was crawling through broken glass trying to get to congresspeople who were in hiding from the mob trying to find them.

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3 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Here is an interesting opinion. I agree with parts, but not others. Good didn't deserve to die. She may have hit the gas, but she barely swiped the agent and the car was past him when he started shooting. No car I've ever driven can all of the sudden go sideways. I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either. What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they should die. Look at all the gooners that go to Dallas every year, most make it back to OK fine.

Minnesota shooting was preventable. Let ICE do their job | Opinion

Several comprehensive analyses of the various videos prove that she didn't swipe the agent. She hit the gas after she'd been shot in the fucking face and her foot fell on it.

Ashley Babbit was trying to murder elected representatives to prevent them from certifying the results of a Democratic election.

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

you fucking serious? ashli babbitt was trying to stop the transfer of power and participating in a coup attempt. Good was trying to drop her kid off at school and go home. fuck the both sides on this.

Only a fucking idiot would think there was going to be any type of coup. The US isn't a 3rd world country. And WTF was she going to do with a pocket knife against guns?

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Just now, Red Five said:

Fuck that article and fuck everything you said about Babbitt. She was crawling through broken glass trying to get to congresspeople who were in hiding from the mob trying to find them.

Fucking seriously. What the fuck do you think she was doing? Because in no fucking way was it "peacefully protesting." She was ordered -- repeatedly -- NOT to come any further, as it was a secured area in which federal officers were trying to protect members of congress who the crowd HAD ACTUALLY AND UNDENIABLY THREATENED TO HANG.

None of us here are of the opinion that "there's no such thing as a good law enforcement use of force." There absolutely can be. And the situation of "I am protecting people who the crowd is openly threatening to kill, and someone is continuing to force entry into our last stand when I have told them repeatedly to turn back" is about as clean as it fucking gets.

Just now, Hard Times said:

And WTF was she going to do with a pocket knife against guns?

Turns out, not much. BECAUSE THAT'S FUCKING WHY THE GOOD GUYS HAVE GUNS. Guns shoot bullets. At attackers. It's literally the whole purpose of "guns."

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Several comprehensive analyses of the various videos prove that she didn't swipe the agent. She hit the gas after she'd been shot in the fucking face and her foot fell on it.

Ashley Babbit was trying to murder elected representatives to prevent them from certifying the results of a Democratic election.

With a pocket knife? Please tell me you IQ is lower than that of a farm animal. It was a bunch of losers trying to be cool, that's all.

2 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Only a fucking idiot would think there was going to be any type of coup. The US isn't a 3rd world country. And WTF was she going to do with a pocket knife against guns?

So in your world, she should have been allowed to go on her way, with the rest of the mob, and been allowed to access the congresspeople in hiding? And just hope they don't hurt/kill too many of them?

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Fucking seriously. What the fuck do you think she was doing? Because in no fucking way was it "peacefully protesting." She was ordered -- repeatedly -- NOT to come any further, as it was a secured area in which federal officers were trying to protect members of congress who the crowd HAD ACTUALLY AND UNDENIABLY THREATENED TO HANG.

None of us here are of the opinion that "there's no such thing as a good law enforcement use of force." There absolutely can be. And the situation of "I am protecting people who the crowd is openly threatening to kill, and someone is continuing to force entry into our last stand when I have told them repeatedly to turn back" is about as clean as it fucking gets.

Turns out, not much. BECAUSE THAT'S FUCKING WHY THE GOOD GUYS HAVE GUNS. Guns shoot bullets. At attackers. It's literally the whole purpose of "guns."

I woulda fired a warning shot first. If she kept coming at me with a knife then I woulda filled her full of holes.

1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

With a pocket knife? Please tell me you IQ is lower than that of a farm animal. It was a bunch of losers trying to be cool, that's all.

I bet you've fantasized about being a member of a lynch mob.

9 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Here is an interesting opinion. I agree with parts, but not others. Good didn't deserve to die. She may have hit the gas, but she barely swiped the agent and the car was past him when he started shooting. No car I've ever driven can all of the sudden go sideways. I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either. What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they should die. Look at all the gooners that go to Dallas every year, most make it back to OK fine.

Minnesota shooting was preventable. Let ICE do their job | Opinion

Finally! Thank you! Someone is willing to speak up for the masked agents that shoot young mothers! Won't someone think of the brownshirts?

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3 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Only a fucking idiot would think there was going to be any type of coup. The US isn't a 3rd world country. And WTF was she going to do with a pocket knife against guns?

Have you watched ANY footage from J6? Did you see what they did to police who tried to stop them?

"Hmm, looking out the window I see cops on the ground getting beaten with weapons, but surely once they break down this door they will come in peace."

GTFO

1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

With a pocket knife? Please tell me you IQ is lower than that of a farm animal. It was a bunch of losers trying to be cool, that's all.

Yea, they definitely didn't assault police officers prior to that. The congresspeople were hiding for fun. And that security guard who lured the mob away had nothing to fear from dozens of angry goons chasing him through the Capitol. Fuck off.

Just now, Red Five said:

So in your world, she should have been allowed to go on her way, with the rest of the mob, and been allowed to access the congresspeople in hiding? And just hope they don't hurt/kill too many of them?

She shoulda been handcuffed and put in jail, just like any protest were people get out of line and break the law.

Just now, Hard Times said:

I woulda fired a warning shot first. If she kept coming at me with a knife then I woulda filled her full of holes.

There is no such thing as a warning shot. Seriously, in any law enforcement engagement protocols, it is not a thing.

There WAS A FUCKING "WARNING." It was verbal. And repeated, loudly and urgently. With a gun pointing at her. She disregarded multiple warnings. There is no basis or protocol for issuing an ADDITIONAL "warning" that goes "bang" really loud.

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6 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

With a pocket knife? Please tell me you IQ is lower than that of a farm animal. It was a bunch of losers trying to be cool, that's all.

And in retrospect they should have all been shot on site.

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

There is no such thing as a warning shot. Seriously, in any law enforcement engagement protocols, it is not a thing.

There WAS A FUCKING "WARNING." It was verbal. And repeated, loudly and urgently. With a gun pointing at her. She disregarded multiple warnings. There is no basis or protocol for issuing an ADDITIONAL "warning" that goes "bang" really loud.

Is that any different than Good? She disobeyed multiple warnings according to pretty much every witness present. That doesn't mean she deserved to be shot.

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Just now, Hard Times said:

She shoulda been handcuffed and put in jail, just like any protest were people get out of line and break the law.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit. The authorities were outnumbered literally hundreds to one. How the fuck do you arrest and handcuff all of these people if you're the cop there?

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3 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

She shoulda been handcuffed and put in jail, just like any protest were people get out of line and break the law.

"protest, "out of line".

You are clearly a resident of Earth 2 where up is down and down is up.

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1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

Is that any different than Good? She disobeyed multiple warnings according to pretty much every witness present. That doesn't mean she deserved to be shot.

This is a lie.

Just now, Hard Times said:

Is that any different than Good? She disobeyed multiple warnings according to pretty much every witness present. That doesn't mean she deserved to be shot.

The bar for using force isn't "a cop shouted a warning." If that were the case, any cop walking down the street could yell "stop or I'll shoot," and if you take another step, he shoots you and it's legally good. Which, by the way, looks to be what happened with Good -- with no basis to do so, he stepped near the front of the vehicle, shouted at her (with contradictory orders being given by others on the scene), and fired an instant later.

The bar is "warned in connection with a lawful order with a reasonable basis to protect others or self." She was attempting to breach a secure area to fucking kill people. The cops behind that door were VASTLY outnumbered. They ordered the people at the door to stop and get back, in the direct context of protecting members of Congress. Seriously. The Babbit shooting is actually one of the most legally justified cop shootings that has ever happened.

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7 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

She shoulda been handcuffed and put in jail, just like any protest were people get out of line and break the law.

by who? the cops being beaten by the mob she was a part of? fuck all the way off, moron.

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Hard Times is very obviously a Republican who realizes his side has overstepped from "fun and games cruelty against brown people" to "oh shit they're going to want vengeance for the evil we've done and they outnumber us about 10,000 to 1" and is trying to defuse our anger. And his best idea of how to do so is to equate the woman who was murdered in her own neighborhood by the masked gestapo he's supported to a woman who traveled more than 2,600 miles to commit insurrection.

If the average MAGA dipshit him himself in the head with the hammer, it'd probably make him smarter.

7 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

She shoulda been handcuffed and put in jail, just like any protest were people get out of line and break the law.

Tell us, why hadn’t she gotten handcuffed prior? Could it be because they violently assaulted the officers trying to stop the mob?

You’re a fucking moron.

I’m sure most cops carry thousands of handcuffs on their person at all times

I saw a question why Vance, Neom, etc lie so blatantly when video shows otherwise. This is why, it gives the bootlickers their talking points so they never have to acknowledge that they are full blown supporters of fascism. Some of them are stupid and actually believe the lies, the rest know they’re lies, they just take sick pleasure in saying the same shit over and over for “lib tears.”

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

I saw a question why Vance, Neom, etc lie so blatantly when video shows otherwise. This is why, it gives the bootlickers their talking points so they never have to acknowledge that they are full blown supporters of fascism. Some of them are stupid and actually believe the lies, the rest know they’re lies, they just take sick pleasure in saying the same shit over and over for “lib tears.”

It's fine. It's good when it's easy to spot the collaborators.

17 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

The US isn't a 3rd world country.

It certainly is headed in that direction.

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I saw a question why Vance, Neom, etc lie so blatantly when video shows otherwise. This is why, it gives the bootlickers their talking points so they never have to acknowledge that they are full blown supporters of fascism. Some of them are stupid and actually believe the lies, the rest know they’re lies, they just take sick pleasure in saying the same shit over and over for “lib tears.”

This is from that shitty USA Today opinion piece posted above:

"And Good appears to have purposefully driven into officers, violating the law by obstructing a federal enforcement operation, and faced an immediate, fatal consequence."

6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

This is a lie.

I can't hear what the shooter and the hoodie guy said, but I certainly heard the other guy say I told you to stop over there and get out of the fucking car. I had a cop do that to me once only because I had an out of state plate and if I hadn't complied I would be dead. That's all I did, have an out of state plate.

Bluesky Libs on X: "It is clear from this second angle that the ICE agent who used force was directly in the path of the car when he defended himself. https://t.co/UtNQx78Yhv" / X

38 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Vance does this really fucking annoying thing where he says "The woman was obviously trying to kill the ICE agent, and no one is arguing that". Um, 1) No she wasn't, and 2) The entire country is arguing that.

the insane and depressing part is that a giant swath of this country sees him say that, nods their head, and takes it as gospel truth. it’s mostly old, racist ass baby boomers, but those fuck heads vote, and the fact that they eat shit up like it’s god’s truth is so fucking disheartening.

4 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

I’m sure most cops carry thousands of handcuffs on their person at all times

You know who WAS carrying a shitload of handcuffs at the terrorist attack on the Capitol?

The terrorists:

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But of course, he just had those because he was a "peaceful protestor," and he had them in his hand because.....uhh, plastic makes his combat gloves feel nicer. That's it. NOT because he had imminent intent to use them EXACTLY AS THE CROWD THREATENED IN PLAIN WORDS: to capture and execute members of Congress.

Hard Times is a disingenuous liar. In other words, a perfect Republican.

20 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

What was she going to do, carve her initials into the wall? The punishment for destruction of property is not death.

Fuck off with that bullshit. Babbitt was shot because there was a huge crowd of people breaking into the Capitol with the intent of causing harm and she was at the front. She broke a window in an attempt to get through a barricaded door.

1 minute ago, Hard Times said:

I had a cop do that to me once only because I had an out of state plate and if I hadn't complied I would be dead. That's all I did, have an out of state plate.

THEN THAT COP WAS VIOLATING THE FUCKING LAW. JUST BECAUSE NUMEROUS COPS ARE SHITTY AND ACT OUTSIDE THE LAW DOES NOT MAKE OTHER EXAMPLES OF SHITTINESS LEGAL.

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28 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

I don't believe Ashley Babbit had to die either.

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ICE aren't cops either. he has no reason to stop her car or tell her to "get the fuck out."

6 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

It certainly is headed in that direction.

Headed? We’ve been there. We are a 3rd world country living on the remnants of the worlds greatest empire.

11 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

Is that any different than Good? She disobeyed multiple warnings according to pretty much every witness present. That doesn't mean she deserved to be shot.

I'm going to be as kind as possible here. There are a million reasons you can't both sides this, but I'll just stick with one simple thing.

Ashley Babbitt traveled from California to Washington DC to protest at the Capitol. Renee Good was driving on a neighborhood street in Minnesota after dropping off her kid at school.

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