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  2. Lando is the new Sharon Moore. Good for him. Hope that's a decent chunk of change in his pocket.
  3. 10 years of the dehumanization of those you disagree with makes it ok to murder them for the lunatic fringe. Two failed presidential assassinations and one successful political assassination bear that out. Evil is real. Simple as that
  4. Yep. I've already heard from multiple people I know/am related to, all about Kirk and what this all means and how this is bad or good for whichever side they are on or oppose. Two days ago, if I said the name "Charlie Kirk" to these people, they, knowing I like Star Trek, would have asked if that was Captain Kirk's brother (that's George "Samuel" Kirk Jr you simpletons) or dad (George Samuel Kirk Sr). But, social media makes them experts on somebody they didn't know existed or who had only heard about in passing 24 hours before. Charlie Strong was absolutely right about social media being the downfall of society.
  5. I wish Charlie Kirk were alive. I wish he was less divisive when he was alive. I wish people would eschew being radicalized to political violence, whether they are drawn to it from the left or right. I wish there wasn't a machine that has been erected to mass produce them. I wish we had leaders who were more intent on fixing vs exploiting -- maybe even engineering -- our problems. I wish the people who are using this sad event as a platform for moral or ideological oneupmanship could see they are part of the problem, again, whether they are drawn to it from the right or left. I wish everyone would calm the fuck down, focus on their proximal lives and concentrate on the shit they can directly control, affect and make better. I wish I had taken my own advice sooner. I wish Charlie Kirk had, too. I wish Charlie Kirk's daughters had their dad. I wish the dad's of the kids shot at the Catholic school in Minneapolis 2 weeks ago and the public school in Evergreen, CO yesterday had their kids. I wish this world was worthy of my own kids. That is all.
  6. My “Yeah for Sure,” was a response to, “He’s not going to make it.” Not the “Man of God,” comment. But yes, I’m sure we do have different views on a few things.
  7. The Majority Report has been covering the divisive, incendiary, idiotic shit Charlie Kirk has said for years and Sam Seder has debated Kirk previously in public and embarrassed him. This segment from four years ago in which they talk about a Kirk event in Boise in 2021 when a member of Kirk's own audience asks "when do we get to use the guns?" is very relevant today. The Kirk defenders and the pearl-clutching @Frank Hammer crying about the way we treat each ought to watch this clip.
  8. Well the old saying about “if you think everyone in the room is an asshole………..”
  9. So Hell means being with all of those who "thought" they were Christians? Damn, maybe I do believe in Heaven now.
  10. Hell is not about dispensing man's retribution for what other men did on earth. It’s eternal separation from God because of failure to accept Jesus‘s sacrifice for our sins, and the only unforgivable sin is knowingly rejecting that sacrifice. Knowing that God forgives what I consider to be unforgivable is the toughest thing about being a Christian in my opinion.
  11. Idaho is a quick 3 hour drive away and within its state lines live some real nutbars. Beautiful natural resources though....
  12. mackholm was definitely an internet troll
  13. I don’t know why but this comment made me think of that veep episode where Gary’s dad says “Jesus, Mary, and Robert E Lee, Gary!” They’ll replace Lee with Kirk.
  14. My bottom line is not to trust those who support a convicted criminal that tries to overturn a legal election and appoints incompetent morons to positions of power. Simple as that, like it or not.
  15. Well lucky for you we got our top men on it... Top...Men...
  16. So if we have no real physical description at this point, the break is going to have to come from the shooter either being a real loud mouth about intentions online or in person, or have failed in keeping traceable electronics off their person, right?
  17. That's likely an artifact from your browser. The favicon for all of the forum is the same and the favicon for the admin/other surly properties is the other. Helps me identify tabs when doing admin stuff.
  18. For the most part, I've stayed away from the two threads pertaining to Kirk. They've gone the way I expected them to go, pretty much as you've succinctly stated above. One of the things noticed, both here and elsewhere in media (social and otherwise) are the number of people who talk about how angry they are, one described it as 'seething.' The term one uses after the loss of someone one cares about is mourning. We mourn the loss of whatever connection we had with them--right down to the most basic: they were a human being akin to us through the birth of one of our own species. The *Sandy Hook parents who lost their children; they mourned all that was and all that would never be. If the feeling one has right after this event is rage and revenge and hate, then perhaps some reflection is in order so that one might examine exactly what this person meant to oneself. If this person was essentially an agent for beliefs in which one shared, then looking around for the opposite in which to unleash those baser instincts will be easy enough, but therein is the paradox. Mourning requires that one treat death with respect. Looking for ways in which to perpetrate more of it is the direct opposite. *Sandy Hook was obviously one of many such tragedies, but there were so so many deaths...until the next one came along.
  19. We have different ideas of what merits the man of God descriptor. He was peaceful while he spoke. His message was not. What was that about political violence being the sole province of the left?
  20. Goddamn, even the UK is taking the Epstein files more seriously than the Party https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/11/uk/peter-mandelson-uk-ambassador-fired-intl London — Peter Mandelson was fired as Britain’s ambassador to the United States on Thursday after his ties to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein became another unwelcome problem for the embattled Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Mandelson had been under mounting pressure over his relationship with Epstein after US lawmakers on Monday released a “birthday book,” compiled for Epstein’s 50th birthday in 2003, in which the veteran Labour party politician had penned a handwritten note describing Epstein as “my best pal.” Despite the revelation, Starmer forcefully defended his ambassador on Wednesday, telling parliament that Mandelson had his “full confidence.” Hours later, the scandal snowballed after Bloomberg published a trove of emails between Mandelson and Epstein, in which Mandelson expressed support for his friend and offered to discuss his infamous 2008 Florida case with his political contacts. Epstein pleaded guilty to two state prostitution charges and served 13 months in prison after a controversial plea deal. But the emails obtained by Bloomberg showed that Mandelson continued to support Epstein after that conviction.
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