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1 hour ago, Dirk X West said:

Have any of these "high profile former NBA player/former player for the school in question with relatively limited coaching experience" college head coach hires ever actually worked out well?

Maybe not as high profile as you want, but Fred Hoiberg comes to mind.

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1 hour ago, Dirk X West said:

Have any of these "high profile former NBA player/former player for the school in question with relatively limited coaching experience" college head coach hires ever actually worked out well?

Clyde Drexler beat Rick Barnes in a season opener, pretty much the best day in Cougar High hoops in forever

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1 hour ago, Dirk X West said:

Have any of these "high profile former NBA player/former player for the school in question with relatively limited coaching experience" college head coach hires ever actually worked out well?

Mullen

Drexler

Ewing

Avery johnson

Sid Lowe to an extent

Very rarely does this work out.  Penny and Mike Miller should be interesting for a year or two.  They both are heavily connected into AAU so they will get players early being fresh out of the circuit.  But at some point you have to win.  If they don't win then the pipeline will dry up quickly just like it did or is for the guys above.  I can't see Penny being there longer than 3-5 years.  He's probably hoping for a shot at the NBA.

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3 minutes ago, Dirk X West said:

Wasn't Avery Johnson was an NBA head coach for 7 years before he went to Bama?

Correct.  I thought he was asking about former standout players becoming coaches at the college level in general.  That being said, you could probably make the argument that avery wasn't a great NBA coach either, just had Dirk and jason terry in their prime when the west was basically the spurs or lakers.  Dantoni was selling his fools gold in phoenix so Dallas only had to beat the spurs. Before Shaq and Wade won it in 6.

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And he’s terrible while also scheduling one of the easiest schedules in all of college basketball. It’s incredible that Georgetown can be as bad as they are given their history. Truly something to behold. 

2018 - raked 96 by kenpom. 351 noncon SOS. 

2019 - ranked 100 with a 292 noncon

He went 15-15 and 19-14. Even JT3 is laughing. 

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11 hours ago, Jhawk said:

And he’s terrible while also scheduling one of the easiest schedules in all of college basketball. It’s incredible that Georgetown can be as bad as they are given their history. Truly something to behold. 

2018 - raked 96 by kenpom. 351 noncon SOS. 

2019 - ranked 100 with a 292 noncon

He went 15-15 and 19-14. Even JT3 is laughing. 

You cited him above as a former player who is "working out well" as a college coach.

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4 minutes ago, Dirk X West said:

You cited him above as a former player who is "working out well" as a college coach.

I fucked that post up badly.  The list I put down were just examples of former players to coach and then I say "rarely does this work out" which I meant to say "look at all these fucking idiots."

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Beard isn't going anywhere unless it is a blue blood and even that might be in question.  Jay Wright is never leaving Nova, even for a blue blood.  He made that program a better job FOR HIM than any other job in the country.  Beard is on the same track, the difference is he hasn't gotten over the hump like Jay did.  If he doesn't get over the hump he will be ripe when the blue bloods start to look for a new coach.  But until then Tech is as good a job as any.  He'll be at tech for at least 5 more years.

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22 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

Beard isn't going anywhere unless it is a blue blood and even that might be in question.  Jay Wright is never leaving Nova, even for a blue blood.  He made that program a better job FOR HIM than any other job in the country.  Beard is on the same track, the difference is he hasn't gotten over the hump like Jay did.  If he doesn't get over the hump he will be ripe when the blue bloods start to look for a new coach.  But until then Tech is as good a job as any.  He'll be at tech for at least 5 more years.

Beard will consider Texas when his youngest daughter gets older.  Texas divorce/custody law impelled him to back out of the UNLV agreement and take the Tech job.  Austin isn't within the custody zone for where his daughters reside.  Lubbock does.  The fact that Beard's girlfriend is a Tech alum and coaches in the Lubbock area also helps Tech.  But don't kid yourself that Beard won't entertain the Texas job at some point.  You're whistling past the graveyard.

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42 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

Beard isn't going anywhere unless it is a blue blood and even that might be in question.  Jay Wright is never leaving Nova, even for a blue blood.  He made that program a better job FOR HIM than any other job in the country.  Beard is on the same track, the difference is he hasn't gotten over the hump like Jay did.  If he doesn't get over the hump he will be ripe when the blue bloods start to look for a new coach.  But until then Tech is as good a job as any.  He'll be at tech for at least 5 more years.

Considering that it took Jay 15 years to get over the hump at Villanova, Beard will have about 12 more years at Tech before he's "ripe".

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Mick Cronin's job just got shittier:

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The malaise afflicting the Pac-12’s major sports cannot be traced exclusively to missteps and miscalculations at the conference office.

USC and UCLA are dragging everyone into their shared morass of losing on the field, underperforming on the court, mid-season coaching dismissals, 5-star attrition, federal bribery charges, pay-for-admissions scandals and much more — some of which zooms past embarrassing and into the realm of heinous.

 
 

And now, folks, there’s a simmering academic problem in Westwood.

The UCLA basketball team is in danger of being ruled ineligible for the NCAA Tournament in coming seasons under new coach Mick Cronin.

Yep, just when it seemed like nothing else could go wrong for the conference — like it had encountered every form of woe imaginable, from the cupcakes on the sideline in Seattle to the federal courtroom in New York to the Louis Vuitton outlet in Hangzhou— the marquee basketball program at one of the finest public universities in the world is struggling in the classroom.

Last week, the NCAA released the Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores for the 2017-18 school year.

The APRs are the best judge of academic performance in major college sports, a close-to-real-time means of holding head coaches accountable.

Each team receives a single-year APR score, which is then grouped with prior results to form a multi-year score that determines postseason eligibility.

Pac-12 basketball multi-year scores announced last week:

Stanford: 997
Washington: 986
Utah: 980
Arizona State: 974
Oregon State: 973
USC: 973
Colorado: 971
Washington State: 970
Cal: 961
Arizona: 960
Oregon: 958
UCLA: 933

Not only did the Bruins post the lowest multi-year score in the conference by a significant amount, they’re just three points above the cutoff line.

If the multi-year score unveiled next spring drops below 930, the Bruins seemingly would be ineligible for March Madness in the 2020-21 season, according to an explanation of the process by NCAA spokesperson Michelle Brutlag Hosick.

“The (Committee on Academics) has set the achievement of 930 APR as a requirement for participation in championships, similar to a winning record,” Hosick wrote in an email.

“Unless the postseason ban is waived or avoided through the use of a filter (more information on that here), teams that don’t achieve the 930 will not participate in the postseason from the first time their multi-year APR falls below that benchmark.”

(She declined to discuss UCLA’s situation specifically.)

The Bruins’ football program is also struggling with the APR, which awards points for the eligibility and retention of each athlete.

The attrition caused by the coaching change — from Jim Mora to Chip Kelly — drove UCLA’s single-year score all the way down to 881, which undercut what had been a solid multi-year score.

The football program’s multi-year APR stands at 948, which is also the worst in the Pac-12but impressive  compared to the basketball number.

On both fronts, the scores are fairly stunning for an institution of UCLA’s stature, with so many academically-inclined players and so many support resources at their disposal.

The school issued the following statement to the Hotline:

“The APR numbers for football and men’s basketball in no way reflect the commitment to academic excellence that has always defined UCLA. We are disappointed in where our teams currently stand, and are proactively working with our coaches and student-athletes to move in the right direction.”

There is a significant obstacle for men’s basketball, at last in the short term:

The multi-year score that determines postseason eligibility is based on a rolling four-year average of the single-year scores.

UCLA’s past four single-year scores under former coach Steve Alford:

2015: 942
2016: 907
2017: 977
2018: 905
Four-year average: 933

In the multi-year score announced next spring, UCLA’s 942 will drop out of the calculation and be replaced by the Bruins’ single-year score for the 2018-19 academic year.

Based on the Hotline’s rudimentary math skills, the Bruins would drop below the postseason cutoff (930) if their single-year score is 928 or lower.

And because the dreadful 907 and 905 scores are carried together through the 2019-20 APR window, as well, the precarious position isn’t a one-time issue.

How in the name of the U.S. News rankings did UCLA slide into this APR quagmire?

The APR measures eligibility and retention: Athletes must remain in school and in good academic standing for each academic term in order to receive the maximum point value for the full academic year.

Undergraduate transfers and early-entry draft prospects (NBA or NFL) put teams at risk of losing points.

The challenge is more daunting for schools on the quarter system, where winter quarter exams typically overlap with the conference basketball tournaments and the start of the NCAAs, thereby increasing the risk that poor grades will impact eligibility.

What’s more, the NBA Draft process — when players are mulling their options and working out for teams — transpires during the spring quarter.

But for semester schools, much of the early-entry process, including the critical NBA Draft Combine in the middle of May, unfolds after the conclusion of the academic year.

The NCAA has tweaked the APR scoring system to account for the difference.

• Each player at a semester school can earn a maximum of four points for the academic year: Two points for eligibility/retention in the fall semester; two points for the spring semester.

• But each player at a quarter-system school can earn a maximum of eight points: Two points for eligibility/retention in the fall quarter; two points in the winter quarter; and four points in the spring quarter (or whichever is the last quarter for enrollment).

Not only do players at quarter-system schools have more opportunities during the year to earn points — or lose them — but the weighted scoring places more emphasis on the quarter in which the draft process peaks.

Because of the small sample size in basketball, it only takes one or two players losing points in the spring quarter to send a team’s single-year APR into treacherous territory.

(The number of points earned is divided by the total points possible, then multiplied by 1,000 to determine the team’s score.)

All that said, UCLA is hardly the only school that must navigate the draft process against the backdrop of the quarter-system scoring process.

Oregon is on the quarter system and has a multi-year basketball APR of 958.

Washington is on the quarter system and has a multi-year score of 986.

In fact, the Huskies achieved perfect scores (1,000) in back-to-back years when they had players leave school for the draft.

Bottom line: The Bruins must do better, and they must do better right now.

We might not have to wait for the release of the APRs next spring for a resolution. The university will have an accurate picture of the basketball program’s single-year score at the close of the academic year in mid-June.

The key questions to be answered at that point:

Exactly when did Kris Wilkes stop attending school and was he in good academic standing at the time?

Exactly when did Jaylen Hands stop attending school and was he in good academic standing at the time?

Did Moses Brown enter the draft and what was his academic standing in the spring quarter?

Did any other players lose points at any time during the academic year?

Based on the Hotline’s very rough estimate, the Bruins are headed to the wire in a game they should never have played in the first place.

 

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Beard will consider Texas when his youngest daughter gets older.  Texas divorce/custody law impelled him to back out of the UNLV agreement and take the Tech job.  Austin isn't within the custody zone for where his daughters reside.  Lubbock does.  The fact that Beard's girlfriend is a Tech alum and coaches in the Lubbock area also helps Tech.  But don't kid yourself that Beard won't entertain the Texas job at some point.  You're whistling past the graveyard.


He could live in Austin and be almost as close to his daughters. Custody zones vary. No one on this board knows or should know the specifics of his divorce agreement or if there is even a custody zone involved. There often isn’t when the potential for a very high income comes into play.

His daughters have gone to every NCAA tournament game in which Tech has played over the last two seasons. He clearly has a pretty favorable agreement that allows him to travel with his girls. And the oldest is a Freshman at Columbia and is already an adult so for one kid, it doesn’t matter anyway.

He spent only a few years in Austin but 14 and counting in Lubbock and longer than that in West Texas. If he loves Austin do much, why doesn’t he live there now? Actions speak louder than words and every action of his for two decades has indicated that living in Lubbock and coaching at Tech are his desire.

Texas basketball isn’t Duke or Kentucky. He’s already shown that he can have success at Tech and remember that even after the new arena opens, his facility situation at Tech will still be better. Unlike the UT basketball coach, he’ll have first call on time and events there because it is owned by the school, not investors. And then there’s his new 29 M $ practice facility that opens late this year.

I don’t know that Red Raiders are “whistling past the graveyard”, but a lot of Longhorns have plugged their ears and covered their eyes because they are confusing Texas Tech with North Texas or UTEP.
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On 4/25/2019 at 7:33 PM, LTtxfan said:

Here' an Article on Tony Benford hiring as asst coach at TCU....

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_8164225c-66f4-11e9-8eb5-570d5e0c757f.html

Not the first time an LSU assistant has bailed for TCU.

Consider that when LSU lost a key recruiting assistant for TCU (David Patrick), it resulted in Johnny Jones' eventual firing in 2017 and David Patrick was able to parlay his experience at TCU into a Head Coaching job.

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I'm skeptical of Howard. If I were Michigan, I'd go with Cooley or Yaklich and keep an eye on how Hardaway works out at Memphis. I'm not saying Howard and Hardaway are automatically identical-- they're individuals, unique snowflakes, all that shit. I just think they have enough in common that you could learn a bit about the pros and cons of having a millionaire ex-NBA player in that role are versus hiring a college basketball lifer. 

So far, the downsides aren't obvious. Hardaway's recruiting has been stellar. Maybe you don't care if the players learn anything in the classroom or at the practice facility, you're just running an AAU team with a college's imprimatur on it.

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Hardaway and Howard have vastly different experience levels. While Howard has dealt with nothing but pros since his career ended.  Hardaway not only coached on the AAU circuit,  but he coached high school ball as well for a few years. He even won a state championship in Tennessee.

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1 hour ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Hardaway and Howard have vastly different experience levels. While Howard has dealt with nothing but pros since his career ended.  Hardaway not only coached on the AAU circuit,  but he coached high school ball as well for a few years. He even won a state championship in Tennessee.

nothing in your post changes anything about mine

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5 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

I'm skeptical of Howard. If I were Michigan, I'd go with Cooley or Yaklich and keep an eye on how Hardaway works out at Memphis. I'm not saying Howard and Hardaway are automatically identical-- they're individuals, unique snowflakes, all that shit. I just think they have enough in common that you could learn a bit about the pros and cons of having a millionaire ex-NBA player in that role are versus hiring a college basketball lifer. 

So far, the downsides aren't obvious. Hardaway's recruiting has been stellar. Maybe you don't care if the players learn anything in the classroom or at the practice facility, you're just running an AAU team with a college's imprimatur on it.

I think that Howard is going to have a lot of recruiting work to do.  Hardaway stepped into the roll with everything he needed for recruiting and that buys him time to learn the XO aspect of the college game while on the job (he has a good base but hasn't coached in college).  HIs name recognition is off the charts right now and he was a "star" even if it was short lived.  Howard was never a star like Penny.  Howard needs to learn both recruiting and college game coaching real quick or be a 3-4 years and out situation.  I think Hardaway is set up for faster success (obviously) and thus longer term success.  Howard is going to have to work damn hard to prove his isn't just another player who is there to "save" his university.

 

Just looked..  hard to believe that penny is older than juwan (47 nearly 48 vs. 46). Also, Juwan out earned Penny $149M to $120M.

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Regular season has drawn to a close, which means it's carousel time. A couple articles previewing potential coaching changes (no, Shaka and Texas aren't mentioned)

(Jeff Borzello - ESPN) Your comprehensive guide to the 2021 college basketball coaching hot seat

Spoiler

The coaching carousel started spinning earlier than usual this season, with jobs at Penn State and Wichita State opening before the season even began and Boston College and Fordham making moves with more than a month left in the season. Wichita State has since promoted interim head coach Isaac Brown to the permanent job, but the other three positions are still open -- and they aren't the only ones.

After last year's coaching carousel saw fewer than 30 changes in a cycle impacted by the coronavirus pandemic -- as opposed to the usual 50-60 -- we're expecting a busier carousel this season. But how busy?

To get you prepared for the next two months of coaching changes, here's a look at the biggest storylines, jobs and names to watch.

Big-picture storylines to watch
1. Will it be a busy carousel?

Had you asked this question at the start of the season, I would have said no. Last spring saw the fewest coaching changes in a decade, and the financial and other challenges posed by the coronavirus pandemic haven't gone away.

That said, take note of what happened in college football, where Auburn paid Gus Malzahn more than $21 million to leave and South Carolina paid Will Muschamp nearly $13 million to make a change. Granted, football is a bigger money-driver to SEC schools than basketball is at most places, but it showed that the money is there. Universities might have lost money during the past year, but many wealthy donors didn't. Some schools might give their head coaches a pass for slight underperformance during a pandemic-impacted season, but I don't expect the cycle to be as quiet as a year ago.

2. NCAA/FBI investigations

We've been discussing how the FBI and NCAA investigations into college basketball corruption might affect the coaching carousel for three-and-a-half years now, and it hasn't really made much of an impact. So it doesn't make a ton of sense to delve here into whether LSU and Will Wade or Kansas and Bill Self or anyone else will be hit with penalties this offseason. It's impossible to predict the timeline of the NCAA's investigations, and since the affected schools have backed their coaches since the initial FBI investigation was made public in September 2017, we'll continue to assume they're not going anywhere. There's one name connected to the scandal that we will discuss, but more on that later.

3. NBA opportunities

Will any college coaches leave for the NBA, or vice versa? The NBA-to-college route hasn't worked out for most schools, but the success of Juwan Howard at Michigan this season could make it an attractive option for athletic directors. On the other side, the last college-to-NBA move was John Beilein going from Michigan to the Cleveland Cavaliers, and that didn't work out. But Brad Stevens has done well with the Boston Celtics -- this season's struggles notwithstanding -- so it's not an idea that's completely off the table. Given that the NBA season isn't ending until the summer, the possibility of a late move is something to keep in mind.

Jobs already open

Boston College: The Eagles got a jump start when they fired Jim Christian in mid-February. Since then, there have been a number of names linked to the job, although Richmond's Chris Mooney, Purdue assistant Micah Shrewsberry, Cleveland State's Dennis Gates and St. Bonaventure's Mark Schmidt have been mentioned consistently. The expectation is the Eagles would take a big swing at someone like John Beilein, Seton Hall's Kevin Willard or maybe Dayton's Anthony Grant before moving on to the next group. People began connecting dots to Loyola Chicago's Porter Moser, whose time with the Ramblers overlapped with that of current BC athletic director Pat Kraft, but my understanding is Moser is not interested in the job at this point.


Penn State: Pat Chambers resigned in October following an investigation into his conduct, and the Nittany Lions appointed Jim Ferry as the interim boss. It sounds like they've recently started to dive into the search, with some emerging names including Gates, Shrewsberry, Michigan assistant coach Saddi Washington and Vermont's John Becker. One interesting name mentioned by sources was Montana's Travis DeCuire, whose time as an assistant coach at Cal overlapped with the Berkeley leadership of Penn State athletic director Sandy Barbour. The Nittany Lions also reached out to former Ohio State coach Thad Matta, but that didn't gather much steam. Keep an eye on Shrewsberry here.


Fordham: The Rams moved on from Jeff Neubauer in late January and are set to begin a long list of interviews this week. Part of the delay had to do with athletic director Ed Kull recently being elevated from interim athletic director to the permanent job. There's some talk that Kull's preference is to hire a sitting head coach, but interviews won't be limited to that pool. Some names mentioned with the Rams job include Siena's Carmen Maciariello, Bryant's Jared Grasso, St. Peter's Shaheen Holloway, Vermont's John Becker, Bowling Green's Michael Huger, Colgate's Matt Langel, Louisville assistant Luke Murray, Villanova assistant Kyle Neptune and Kentucky assistant Tony Barbee.


New Mexico: This one opened last week, with the school announcing Paul Weir was out at the end of the season. It's a destination with past success and a passionate fan base, but also one that's going on seven years without an NCAA tournament appearance and questions regarding the salary pool. Frank Martin's name has been linked to the job because of his relationship with athletic director Eddie Nunez, but I don't see it happening. Two more practical names I heard are former Nebraska head coach Tim Miles and Pacific head coach Damon Stoudamire, and another intriguing one emerging is Richard Pitino, should he part ways with Minnesota. Illinois assistant Orlando Antigua is another name.

Others currently open: Albany, Denver, Northern Illinois, Portland, Tennessee-Martin, Texas State, UC Riverside, UTRGV

Jobs I'm watching

DePaul: Dave Leitao signed an extension last spring through 2024, but the school has since hired a new athletic director and the extension reportedly includes no buyout. The Blue Demons are going to finish last in the Big East for the fifth straight season, and the expectation is that DePaul opens in the next few weeks. This is a job that generates mixed reviews within the industry: It has the infrastructure (facilities, location) in place to be a good job, but DePaul hasn't made the NCAA tournament since 2004.

Iowa State: The Cyclones are two losses away from a winless Big 12 campaign, and they're headed for their fourth straight .500 or worse conference season. Steve Prohm went to the NCAA tournament in three of his first four seasons in Ames -- including a Sweet 16 run in 2016 -- but a potential 0-18 conference campaign with just two wins over Division I teams all season tends to be frowned upon at the Power 5 level. There are resource challenges that were amplified by the pandemic but it's not a bad job at all: passionate fan base, a history of quality coaches. Prohm is signed through 2025 and is owed at least $5 million.


South Carolina: This one is interesting. Frank Martin took South Carolina to the Final Four just five seasons ago, and finished above .500 in the SEC in four of his last five seasons before the 2020-21 campaign. But Martin has been linked to a number of high-major openings in recent years, and that Final Four was also his only NCAA tournament appearance since arriving in Columbia back in 2012. He's owed around $6 million, but could both sides just decide to part ways and move on?


Minnesota: Richard Pitino's seat has grown warmer over the last few weeks, as the Golden Gophers went from a likely NCAA tournament team to one on a five-game losing streak with back-to-back defeats to Northwestern and Nebraska. Pitino has had seasons of success at Minnesota, but hasn't been able to do it on a consistent basis and has really struggled to keep the best in-state talent home for college. His buyout is $1.75 million. This job would be perhaps the most attractive one on the market should it open (and others stay closed).


Arizona: As mentioned, digging too deeply into whether schools will part ways with coaches due to the NCAA investigation is a fool's errand. But Sean Miller is different -- because he has just one year left on his contract. Miller has been asked about it in press conferences, and hasn't offered much insight aside from saying he's not focused on it. Will Arizona offer him an extension in the next few months? That seems unlikely. And neither side would be eager to go into next season with only one year left on Miller's deal. There will need to be either an extension or a parting of ways this offseason.


Kansas State: It's been fairly quiet in Manhattan the last couple months, since a December loss to Division II Fort Hays State started the rumblings about Bruce Weber's future. The Wildcats won two in a row over TCU and Oklahoma last week, but they're just 7-19 overall and 3-14 in the league -- after going 11-21 overall and 3-15 last season. Weber has guided Kansas State to five NCAA tournaments, a Big 12 title (2019) and an Elite Eight appearance (2018) since taking over in 2012, and there doesn't seem to be a strong appetite to outright fire him. Could the two sides come to an agreement and have Weber step down on his own? He's owed $2 million.


Miami: The Hurricanes have been ravaged by injuries this season, with preseason NCAA tournament hopes falling by the wayside rather quickly. It will be the school's third consecutive season without an NCAA tournament appearance, and its third straight season finishing considerably below .500 in the ACC. But Jim Larranaga -- who has all three of the program's 25-win seasons and two of its three Sweet 16 appearances -- still has three years remaining on his deal, three quality recruits entering the program and would be owed more than $6 million should Miami decide to move on. I'm told the 71-year old has no desire to retire, either.


Indiana: Maybe the biggest elephant in the room entering this spring's coaching carousel. The Hoosiers, who were headed to their first NCAA tournament appearance under Miller when the pandemic occurred, have now lost four in a row and are likely going to be on the outside looking in at the 2021 NCAA tournament. That means Indiana will not have played in a tourney game -- with pandemic caveats, of course -- since Archie Miller took over in 2017, and that just doesn't fly in Bloomington. With that said, he's owed around $10 million, and it's unlikely the school would pay his buyout without a clear upgrade at the ready. And I'm just not sure IU's top options would be interested right now.


Utah: The Utes had a huge win over USC over the weekend, but they're going to finish below .500 in the Pac-12 for the second straight season. Prior to that, they finished .500 or better in the league six straight seasons under Larry Krystkowiak and went to two NCAA tournaments -- including a Sweet 16 run in 2015. Krystkowiak reportedly makes $3.76 million per year with two years left on his deal. I don't see a move happening yet, but multiple industry sources have brought it up in recent days.

I'd be surprised ...

Notre Dame: Mike Brey has been in South Bend for 21 seasons, is the school's all-time winningest coach and has guided the Fighting Irish to 12 NCAA tournament appearances. This will be their fourth straight year without dancing, but he has five juniors set to return plus the addition of Yale transfer Paul Atkinson. I think Brey gets one more year.


Vanderbilt: Jerry Stackhouse dug his heels in in February, when he told The Athletic: "They could fire me. But I ain't giving money back." It's only year two of a six-year deal, and while the Commodores aren't winning a lot of games, opposing coaches have been impressed by the stuff they run. I don't see them paying Stackhouse to leave after just two seasons.


Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.


Washington: The Huskies are awful this season, sitting at 5-20 overall and 4-16 in the Pac-12, and Mike Hopkins has only been to one NCAA tournament in four seasons. But he has a fully guaranteed contract through 2025 and the school isn't likely to pay him eight figures to depart. Hopkins is also bringing in McDonald's All-American Jackson Grant.


Oregon State: Wayne Tinkle and the Beavers have shown signs of progress the last couple seasons, winning 18 games in 2019 and 2020 and sitting at 9-9 in conference play this season. Plus, he's owed more than $4 million over the next two years.


Northwestern: Remember when Northwestern was the talk of college basketball? The Wildcats started 6-1 with a win over Ohio State -- but they promptly lost 13 straight games before winning at Minnesota last week. Chris Collins has been in charge in Evanston since 2013 and has only been to one NCAA tournament in 2017, but that was the program's first tourney appearance and Collins immediately received an extension through 2025 after engineering it.


South Florida: It's only year four of the Brian Gregory era with the Bulls, but they have seven Division I wins this year and were just 14-17 last season. In fact, Gregory hasn't had a winning conference record since 2009 -- two jobs ago at Dayton. The buyout is also reportedly very low, but again, it's only year four. This might be the one job in this section worth keeping an eye on, though.


SMU: SMU is going to be a sought-after job whenever it opens, due to its location, money and facilities -- but I can't see it being this year. Tim Jankovich had a couple down years after going 30-5 in his first season at the helm, but won 19 games last season and has the Mustangs on the back-end of the bubble this season.


Stanford: It's been a disappointing campaign for Jerod Haase and the Cardinal, given they have elite freshman Ziaire Williams and maybe the best player in the Pac-12 in Oscar da Silva. But they were also displaced for three-quarters of the season due to the pandemic and it's not a school that has shown a quick trigger in the past. Haase is also once again bringing in a top-25 recruiting class led by five-star Harrison Ingram. It's a job that's only barely on my radar.


George Washington: It's only Year 2, but it hasn't worked so far with Jamion Christian in the nation's capital. There have been staff changes, player departures and just general tumult within the program over the last couple seasons. The Colonials went 12-20 last season and are just 4-11 this season entering the conference tournament. But again, it's just year two.

Three more to keep an eye on

George Mason: I don't see any changes being made this season after the Patriots won four in a row to end the season to finish 12-8 overall and 8-6 in the Atlantic 10 entering the conference tournament. Dave Paulsen is well-liked in the community, but this will make it six years without GMU coming close to a conference title. That said, I don't see a move being made.


Indiana State: This one is very likely to happen, despite ISU's on-court performance not being all that bad. Greg Lansing's team has been terrific to close out this season, winning 10 of their last 12 games to finish 11-7 in Missouri Valley, a year after they went 18-12 overall and 11-7 in the league. Lansing took over in 2010 and hasn't been to the NCAA tournament since his first season, but still, it seems harsh to make a move. Athletic director Sherard Clinkscales has strong ties to Matt Painter and Purdue, so if a move is made, keep an eye on coaches with a link to the Boilermakers.


Illinois State: It seems like just yesterday that Dan Muller and Illinois State went 17-1 in the Missouri Valley and won 28 games, but that was 2017. The Redbirds are about to finish at the bottom of the standings, but I don't see a move being made; Muller's buyout is $1.5 million.

Others: Eastern Michigan, The Citadel, Lamar, Rider, Jacksonville, Central Connecticut State, San Jose State

Big names to watch

Eric Musselman, Arkansas: If Minnesota opens, Musselman will likely be one of the first calls. He grew up in Minneapolis and his father, Bill, coached both the Gophers and Timberwolves. The question is whether Minnesota could offer enough money to get Musselman to leave what he's building in Fayetteville.


Richard Pitino, Minnesota: As mentioned, Pitino's future in the Twin Cities is tenuous. Could he pursue another job on his own? He's been linked to New Mexico a bit since it opened, and it wouldn't be a surprise to see him sniff around Boston College.


Nate Oats, Alabama: I'm only including Oats to mention that he likely shouldn't be listed as a candidate for any job that opens, even if it's Indiana or Arizona. Oats' new contract from February set his buyout at north of $12 million.


Bobby Hurley, Arizona State: Hurley has been listed as a potential candidate at Boston College, and it's also likely that DePaul will reach out to him to gauge interest. The Sun Devils have struggled this season, but he's done a terrific job getting talent to Tempe and would have made his fourth NCAA tournament (third straight with ASU) had the plug not been pulled in 2020.


Frank Martin, South Carolina: New Mexico likely won't happen, but could Martin try to get involved at DePaul or Boston College? The Miami native would also be a logical candidate should the Hurricanes job open.


Mike Boynton, Oklahoma State: Should South Carolina open, Boynton will be the candidate immediately linked to the job. He played there in the early 2000s and also spent five seasons in Columbia as an assistant coach. He is headed to the NCAA tournament this season and also has the likely No. 1 draft pick on his roster in Cade Cunningham.

Mid-major names

Porter Moser, Loyola Chicago: No mid-major coach on this list will be able to match Moser's résumé over the past four years. The Ramblers went to the Final Four in 2018, won the Missouri Valley in 2019 and again this year, while also ranked near the top 10 in both NET and KenPom. Moser was pursued by St. John's a couple years ago, but ultimately decided to stay at Loyola. He's in a great spot right now, so he can be selective with the jobs he does chase. I'd imagine he would be very interested in DePaul or Minnesota if either opens.


Dennis Gates, Cleveland State: No coach has raised his stock more than this season than Gates, who won a share of the Horizon League regular-season title and his second straight Horizon League Coach of the Year award. He took over a really difficult job in the summer of 2019, but has the Vikings with a chance at their first NCAA tournament appearance since 2009. Gates was a longtime Leonard Hamilton assistant at Florida State, and also has experience at Nevada and California. He's considered a prime candidate at Penn State and Boston College, and the Chicago native would undoubtedly be in the mix at DePaul as well.


Wes Miller, UNC Greensboro: Miller was in the mix for Wake Forest last season and could find himself on some high-major shortlists again. UNCG won the SoCon title for the third time in five years, and Miller is pushing for his second NCAA tournament appearance.


Pat Kelsey, Winthrop: Kelsey has now won two straight -- and four of the last six -- Big South regular-season titles. The Eagles went 20-1 in the regular season, with the lone loss coming by two points. Kelsey also has plenty of experience as a high-major assistant. But are there any obvious jobs for him to take this spring?


Mark Pope, BYU: Pope is going to be on the radar for most available high-major jobs until he takes one. He checks a lot of boxes: played in the NBA, high-major experience as an assistant coach, has had success at two spots as a head coach. He had BYU in the mix for a top-four seed last season and will have the Cougars dancing again this season. I could see him getting a call if Arizona opens -- but he could also opt to wait and see what else comes open the next couple seasons.


Craig Smith, Utah State: I could see the Minnesota native Smith getting in the mix for any Midwest job that opens, and I think he would be one of the top two candidates for Iowa State along with UNLV's T.J. Otzelberger. USU earned back-to-back NCAA tournament berths the last two seasons and is only a half-game out of first this season.


Brian Dutcher, San Diego State: Dutcher would undoubtedly be on the list at Minnesota, but would he leave San Diego? His Aztecs won 30 games last season and are leading the Mountain West. Perhaps relevant to note that the 61-year-old Dutcher attended Minnesota and his father, Jim, coached the Golden Gophers from 1975-86 (the elder Dutcher succeeded Eric Musselman's dad, Bill).


Niko Medved, Colorado State: There will be plenty of momentum for Medved if Minnesota opens. He's a Minneapolis native, attended Minnesota and was an assistant coach for the Golden Gophers for a season in 2006-07. He's done well at Furman, Drake and now has Colorado State on the precipice of the NCAA tournament.


Darian DeVries, Drake: DeVries had Drake off to an 18-0 start, one of the final three unbeaten teams in college basketball, and it was an NCAA tournament lock before recent injuries. He has won at least 20 games in all three seasons with the Bulldogs. DeVries would be a locked-in candidate if Kansas State opened.


Mark Schmidt, St. Bonaventure: Schmidt has been successful for more than a decade at St. Bonaventure, one of the more difficult jobs at the mid-major-plus level. He has the Bonnies in position to make the NCAA tournament this season, and he's in the mix at Penn State and his alma mater, Boston College.


Chris Mooney, Richmond: Mooney has been buzzing a bit for Boston College, but would he take it? He's turned down better jobs in the past, most notably Georgia Tech and Miami. Perhaps Mooney feels it's time for a change, but I'm not completely sold he makes a move.


James Jones, Yale: Jones and the rest of the Ivy League has had the 2020-21 season off, but his recent résumé speaks for itself. He's won at least a share of the regular-season title in four of the last six years, going to two NCAA tournaments during that time. Had strong momentum early in the process at Penn State.


John Becker, Vermont: Becker is going to be offered a better job at some point; it just remains to be seen whether it will be this year. He's been linked to Boston College and Penn State. Becker has won five straight America East regular-season titles and been to three NCAA tournaments.


T.J. Otzelberger, UNLV: Otzelberger hasn't quite gotten it rolling in his two seasons in Vegas, but he would be one of the two favorites at Iowa State if it opened. He spent eight years as an assistant coach in Ames under Greg McDermott and Fred Hoiberg.


Damon Stoudamire, Pacific: It's been a difficult year for the Tigers due to COVID pauses, but they've finished with wins in three of their final four games -- after finishing tied for third in the standings last season. He's in the mix at New Mexico and I think he would be one of the favorites for Arizona (his alma mater) if it opened.


Mike Rhoades, VCU: Rhoades has VCU back in the mix for the NCAA tournament after leading the Rams to 25 wins and a tournament appearance back in 2019. I could see him getting on the list at Boston College or Penn State, but I'm not sure either of those is a better job than VCU.


Casey Alexander, Belmont: Had the Bruins off to a 24-1 start with a 21-game winning streak and has won at least 23 games in four straight seasons -- but there's not a logical move for him. Perhaps Vanderbilt if it opened.


Ryan Odom, UMBC: Odom has the biggest trump card of any mid-major candidate outside of maybe Moser -- a 16-over-1 upset in the NCAA tournament. He's now backed that up with a share of the America East title this season. If South Carolina opened, could he get in the mix at the place his father, Dave, coached?


Scott Nagy, Wright State: It's a surprise Nagy isn't mentioned more for Midwest openings. He's won at least a share of the Horizon League title in three straight seasons and he's won at least 19 games 11 straight seasons dating back to his days at South Dakota State. I don't know if there's an obvious big job for him, but one could emerge once dominoes start falling.

Getting back in?
John Beilein: The X factor in most searches, Beilein is going to be a prime candidate for any big jobs. But will he be interested? There's long been talk he didn't enjoy recruiting all that much and he just turned 68 last month. Whether he wants to take over a two- or three-year rebuild or wait for a ready-made job is the question.

Thad Matta: Matta has been pursued by several schools since parting ways with Ohio State back in 2017 -- including by Penn State this year -- but hasn't shown much interest. Should the right job open, though, my understanding is Matta would be interested in getting back into college coaching. Will that happen this spring?

John Thompson III: Led Georgetown to eight NCAA tournament appearances -- including a Final Four in 2007 -- before being fired in 2017. Did some television work for ESPN and now works for the Washington Wizards. Was a consistent winner with both the Hoyas and at Princeton.

Tim Miles: Was briefly linked to Wyoming last year, but could be a real candidate at New Mexico this spring. Led Nebraska to one NCAA tournament and two NIT appearances during his seven years in Lincoln before being fired, and spent five years in the Mountain West at Colorado State.

 

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(Seth Davis - The Athletic) Sean Miller, Archie Miller, Scott Drew and more: Who to watch on the college basketball coaching carousel

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With all the disruptions, uncertainties and financial hardships that pockmarked the 2020-21 college basketball season as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, the thinking for most of the winter from industry insiders was that the coaching carousel would be uneventful when the off-season drew nigh.

Perhaps it’s time to think again.

It’s too soon to tell whether this will be a wild and woolly carousel season, or whether it will be relatively mild, but it certainly won’t be boring. The pace of change will be dictated, as usual, by how many big jobs come open, and whether those schools fill their vacancies with head coaches from other schools, which starts the dominos tipping. There are already two vacancies at power conference schools, Boston College and Penn State, as well as one at New Mexico. The regular season wrapped up last weekend, which means the carousel is about to squeak to life. Here are 20 names to watch once the coming and going gets going:

John Beilein, former Michigan and Cleveland Cavaliers head coach. Hiring Beilein is a sure way to win the press conference, despite his spectacular flameout with the Cavs. Beilein is 68, but he is still a Hall of Fame caliber coach, and if he persuades someone he has plenty of fire left, he would have his pick. One wrinkle with Beilein is he most likely will want to bring along as an assistant his son, Patrick, who in 2019 resigned as the coach at Niagara after just seven months for personal reasons.

Mike Brey, head coach, Notre Dame. Brey’s contract expires in 2025, and he has said he does not expect to be coaching in South Bend beyond that. The Irish last played in the NCAA Tournament in 2017, and with this year’s team finishing 11th in the ACC, there has been much speculation that perhaps Brey, 61, is ready to step down voluntarily. “Absolutely not. No way,” Brey told me when I asked him about that possibility. “We’ve got a great group coming back and a former co-Ivy League Player of the Year (Paul Atkinson, a 6-10 grad transfer from Yale). I feel really strongly we could get back in the hunt, and I know our guys feel that way too.” With Brey’s intentions made clear, the only question is whether Notre Dame’s athletic director Jack Swarbrick will force him out. It’s not impossible, but it would be a pretty big surprise.

Travis DeCuire, head coach, Montana. Now in his sixth season as the coach at his alma mater, DeCuire, 50, has led the Grizzlies to three Big Sky regular-season titles and two tournament titles, and he was named the league’s coach of the year in 2018. He is expected to be considered at New Mexico and any other jobs that open up out west.

Scott Drew, head coach, Baylor. Drew is everybody’s home run hire. He has done a remarkable job during his 18 years in Waco, taking the Bears from the depths of controversy to championship contender. He could have all the financial and job security he wants there, so the only question is whether, at the age of 50, he’s OK with the possibility of finishing his career at Baylor. If a job comes open in his native Indiana, or at some other elite program, will he want to take a swing at something new? It seems highly doubtful, but someone will ask him that question, just like it gets asked of Tony Bennett and Mark Few most every year.

Brian Dutcher, head coach, San Diego State. Dutcher is in a great situation at SDSU, where he makes good money, can consistently coach in the NCAA Tournament, and live in blissful weather. If another school wants to hire him, it will owe SDSU $6.9 million. The exception is Minnesota, where his father, Jim, coached from 1975 to ’85, and which most likely will have a vacancy in the coming days. Dutcher’s contract at SDSU has a clause that lowers that buyout to $1 million if he leaves for Minnesota. Dutcher could also be a candidate at Arizona if that job comes open and the school looks outside the family of former Arizona players for a replacement.

Dennis Gates, head coach, Cleveland State. Next to Loyola Chicago’s Porter Moser, Gates is the hottest mid-major coach in the country. He grew up in Chicago and became a two-time All-Academic Pac-10 selection at Cal, where he graduated in three years and played his senior season as a master’s degree candidate. Gates later spent eight years as an assistant to Leonard Hamilton at Florida State, and after being hired at Cleveland State in 2019 he was named Horizon League Coach of the Year in his first season. Gates led the Vikings to a share of the league title this season. He is deep in the mix at Penn State, whose athletic director, Sandy Barbour, worked previously at Cal. Gates could become a leading candidate at DePaul.

Dave Leitao, head coach, DePaul. It looks like this is finally the end of the road for Leitao, who is in his second stint at DePaul and has been unable in six years to lead the Blue Demons to anything higher than an eighth-place finish in the Big East. The school hired a new athletic director, DeWayne Peevy, last summer, and this season DePaul went 4-13 (2-13 Big East).

Frank Martin, head coach, South Carolina. It has only been four years since Martin, 54, took South Carolina to its first Final Four, but he has done nothing to squelch the widespread belief he very much wants out of Columbia. Now there is added speculation that even if he doesn’t leave for another job, the school might show him the door anyway. The rub here is that Martin makes around $3 million in salary, which will be tough for another school to match. If South Carolina fires him, it reportedly will owe him about $6.5 million, which is especially problematic considering South Carolina just made an expensive coaching change in football. An intriguing option for Martin could be New Mexico, whose athletic director, Eddie Nunez, once played for Martin at Miami (Fla.) High School, but that would require a massive pay cut.

Thad Matta, former head coach, Ohio State. Matta is only 53, so he should have plenty of good years left if he wants to return to coaching. But does he? Matta has been approached by plenty of schools since he was fired by Ohio State in 2017 — including UCLA, which flew to Matta’s home to interview him after the school cut Steve Alford loose. Boston College recently reached out to gauge Matta’s interest in the job. He said he wanted to talk it over with his wife, and then called back the next day to say they didn’t want to live in Boston. Matta has expressed his disdain for the scandalous activities revealed by the FBI’s investigation. He has spent the last four years hanging on the beach in Florida, where he has a second home, taking cooking lessons and traveling with his wife. It would take an ideal situation to lure Matta back, and he would still have to answer questions about his health. But his phone will keep ringing.

Tim Miles, former head coach, Nebraska. Miles was let go in 2019 after seven years at Nebraska, but he still has a solid reputation after taking the school to its first NCAA Tournament in 16 years in 2014. He makes no secret of his eagerness to get back on the sideline. “Being out for two years, sitting through COVID, I’m just really excited about the prospect of getting back into college basketball,” he told me. Miles’ coaching pedigree and outgoing personality would play very well at New Mexico, where he is on a short list of candidates to replace Paul Weir. He has experience in the Mountain West, having coached at Colorado State for five years. It’s unlikely Miles could get a major Power 6 job such as Minnesota or Iowa State, but if New Mexico hires someone else he will probably still have some decent options.

Archie Miller, head coach, Indiana. Hoosiers fans are understandably frustrated that in all probability Miller is about to complete his fourth season without having gotten IU into the NCAA Tournament. During that time Indiana is 33-44 in the Big Ten. For the school, however, the operative numbers are 10 and 3. It would cost Indiana $10.35 million to pay Miller’s buyout this year, but next year that number goes down to $3.475 million. Some mitigating factors could reduce those numbers, and Indiana would not have to pay them in one lump sum. Still, given the pandemic-related budget challenges, it is hard to justify spending that kind of money — and that’s before the school pays the replacement coach’s buyout and/or salary. Plus, it just bumped football coach Tom Allen up to $4.9 million a year. Miller has a good relationship with athletic director Scott Dolson, and he is well thought of as a coach and person. The smart money says he gets another year.

Sean Miller, head coach, Arizona. The NCAA’s Notice of Allegations was made public on Friday, but the school has had the document since last fall. That’s a big reason why university president Robert Robbins has so far declined to extend Miller’s contract. Miller only has one year remaining, and there is no way he can coach another season in Tucson without an extension. Because Arizona self-imposed a postseason ban, the Wildcats’ season is over, which means Miller is officially on the clock. A decision could be made this week. Robbins is keeping things close to the vest, but the widespread expectation around the industry is that Miller has coached his last game at Arizona.

Porter Moser, head coach, Loyola Chicago. One source told me, “There’s a 2 percent chance Porter Moser is the coach at Loyola next year.” In other words … there’s a chance! Three years after taking the Ramblers to the Final Four, Moser has led them to another Missouri Valley Conference championship and is heading back to the NCAA Tournament. He should have his pick of several high-quality jobs in the Midwest, including in his native Chicago at DePaul. Moser could also be an attractive option at BC, which, like Loyola, is a private Catholic school in a big city.

Kenny Payne, assistant coach, New York Knicks. Payne, 54, was an assistant at Oregon for five years and then worked for John Calipari at Kentucky from 2010 to ’20. Yet he never got a serious look for a high-quality college job, so he left to be an assistant with the New York Knicks. The Knicks are enjoying a renaissance (thanks to the arrival of former Kentucky forward Julius Randle), but Payne could be tempted to return to college to work at DePaul for DeWayne Peevy, the former deputy AD at Kentucky who became DePaul’s AD last summer. Now that Payne has some NBA coaching experience he could be attractive to other colleges as well.

Richard Pitino, head coach, Minnesota. Pitino’s eight-year run will almost certainly come to an end as soon as the Golden Gophers lose in the Big Ten tournament this week. Pitino was hired in 2013 at the age of 30 despite having just one year of head coaching experience at FIU. He won an NIT championship during his first season at Minnesota and he took the Golden Gophers to the NCAA Tournament twice, but this season’s team fell into a nasty spiral the last six weeks and finished the regular season in 13th place in the Big Ten. There has been speculation that Pitino could be a candidate at Boston College, but a well-placed source tells me that is extremely unlikely to happen.

Steve Prohm, head coach, Iowa State. This was expected to be a rebuilding year for Iowa State, and the team was hit hard by COVID-19 and other issues. Still, a winless conference season is hard to overcome, particularly in Year 6. (Just ask Bryce Drew, who was cut loose following his third season at Vanderbilt after going winless in the SEC.) Still, Iowa State would owe Prohm $5 million if it terminated him now. That’s a big number for an athletic department that recently reported it was facing a $25 million budget shortfall because of the pandemic.

Mark Schmidt, head coach, St. Bonaventure. Schmidt has two really good things going for him. First, his team had a great season. The Bonnies won the Atlantic 10 regular-season title, and even if they lose to VCU in the tournament final Sunday, they will probably make the NCAA Tournament for the third time in Schmidt’s 14 years there and just the eighth time in school history. Second, there’s an ACC job opening in that part of the country at Boston College. Schmidt, who played at BC, is going to be a leading candidate for that job and will also be considered at Penn State.

Micah Shrewsberry, assistant coach, Purdue. Shrewsberry’s rising stock is tied to his connection to two highly respected head coaches — Matt Painter, his current boss, and Brad Stevens, his former boss at Butler and the Celtics. Shrewsberry is on the short list at Penn State and could become a candidate at DePaul. Otherwise, he’ll probably be interviewed for several mid-major jobs.

Damon Stoudamire, head coach, Pacific. Stoudamire has the pedigree of a former Pac-10 player of the year, NBA first-round draft pick, rookie of the year and 13-year veteran. He served an assistant with the Memphis Grizzlies and three colleges before getting his first head coaching job at Pacific in 2016. Although the Tigers are under .500 in the WCC under Stoudamire and finished 5-7 this season (8-8 overall), Stoudamire is considered a rising star. He is a candidate at New Mexico, and he assuredly will get a chance to interview if the job at his alma mater, Arizona, comes open.

Bruce Weber, head coach, Kansas State. In their fifth game of the season, the Wildcats lost by 13 points at home to Division II Fort Hays State. Things never got much better as Kansas State ended up 4-14 in the Big 12 (8-19 overall). Coming on the heels of last year’s 3-15 Big 12 mark, that could spell trouble, but not a lot of insiders believe that Weber, who is wrapping up his ninth season in Manhattan, is going to be fired. That said, Weber’s buyout is not expensive. It would cost the school $2 million if he’s terminated before April 30, and $1 million afterward.

 

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13 minutes ago, Go Pokes said:

Also, do yourself a favor and read the previous 20 posts for some dead on analysis about the UM coaching change a few years ago.

Doesn't matter what site it is, any thread about coaches shows that most of us don't know jack about them.

The problem is that a lot of people getting 6- and 7-digit salaries to figure out the good coaching candidates don't know much either.

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They'd be crazy not to at least call up Scott Drew and offer some huge compensation package and spin tales of reviving a blue blood in the BEST conference in America (as that is the new narrative of the B1G) since Arizona seems to be sticking with Sean Miller.

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