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16 minutes ago, troph said:

Fuck it was the worst QB game in 10 fucking years out of the position. Sark doesn’t walk Scott free no way. 

Actually, I think your characterization vindicates Sark more than condemns him. The performance was so spectacularly bad (I agree with your description), that it's difficult to imagine what  a coach could have done about it. 

Manning did not belong on the field in the role of QB. I'm not hating. I want him to work out. 

Leaving Manning in the game was the only decisive choice, IMHO, that falls on Sark. I can't even name our second team QB, but he would have been better. If there were no other factors such as Manning's psychological strength and merciless public opinion, Manning should have been pulled.

The only reason you don't bench him is because you feel he is your best chance for a great season and that benching him would damage him and the hopes of a great season.

If we get into conference play and Manning plays nearly as poorly as yesterday, I say pull him. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

You'd think someone that gets paid millions to coach could fix it in a single offseason. 

Self reflection is difficult. And the higher up you get the more difficult it gets. And I guarantee you no one in his inner circle has told him he has a blind spot to red zone/goal line play calling, or even an issue juggling play calling and HC duties in general

Posted
1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

Actually, I think your characterization vindicates Sark more than condemns him. The performance was so spectacularly bad (I agree with your description), that it's difficult to imagine what  a coach could have done about it. 

Manning did not belong on the field in the role of QB. I'm not hating. I want him to work out. 

Leaving Manning in the game was the only decisive choice, IMHO, that falls on Sark. I can't even name our second team QB, but he would have been better. If there were no other factors such as Manning's psychological strength and merciless public opinion, Manning should have been pulled.

The only reason you don't bench him is because you feel he is your best chance for a great season and that benching him would damage him and the hopes of a great season.

If we get into conference play and Manning plays nearly as poorly as yesterday, I say pull him. 

I don’t think you pull him. Honestly I think you might run more and scheme easier routes but that’s about it. One of these threads has all of Manning’s passes back to back to back it’s a good quick review. I just watched it and have toned down my view of the game plan and what sark could have done. 

i actually think the game plan was fine. Sarks abysmal 4th and go for it and arch’s accuracy were the game. It’s hard to say fuck it we are going to run the ball because guys were open and sometimes arch made the throw and sometimes he didn’t. Again, maybe lean heavier on the run and curls and come backs for routes but In the end if arch can get accurate he had plenty of time and plenty of open receivers.

pressures off, get better and get to the swamp and show up as a different QB.

and kick the fucking field goal. 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, 6th Street said:

 

so when they line up where exactly is sark? is he in a place he can easily see this? Field visibility is one thing when the opposing team is lining up in 50 yard line, another thing when it's in the far end zone.

does his minion in the booth (milwee?) have the authority to change plays at a moments notice when he notices something like this?

is this where maybe having a real OC that calls in the booth will truly benefit?   or maybe a minion with a spine to go against his boss? 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

wtf are you even talking about? I never questioned our defense making goal line stands. I said other coaches didn’t have an issue with our great defense scoring points that helped them win a game. That doesn’t mean our defense sucked, our defense does their fucking job literally almost every game.
 

It’s sark not doing his and scoring when it matters most. His record in the biggest games we play shows that. Aggy isn’t Georgia or Ohio st and a stupid comparison. Matter of fact it backs up my statement of our limp dick offensive struggles. Our offense scored aggy only points. 

You literally fucking said “other teams didn’t have an issue scoring/converting short yardage situations on our awesome defense”, TO WHICH I SHOWED EXAMPLES WHERE THEY DID, and you said “YEAH BUT THOSE DONT COUNT BECAUSE REASONS”.

 

Am I typing in fucking Latin or something?

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Posted
1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

 

If we get into conference play and Manning plays nearly as poorly as yesterday, I say pull him. 

First road start against a top 3 team and you are talking about pulling the QB LOL.   JFC the idiocy on this board

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Posted
1 minute ago, Skipper said:

First road start against a top 3 team and you are talking about pulling the QB LOL.   JFC the idiocy on this board

Return to reading class. Then try reasoning class.

It would be idiocy to continue with a QB who played as poorly as Manning did Saturday. I'm neither suggesting he be pulled or that I expect him to be pulled, Skipper.

3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

 JFC the idiocy on this board

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Return to reading class. Then try reasoning class.

It would be idiocy to continue with a QB who played as poorly as Manning did Saturday. I'm neither suggesting he be pulled or that I expect him to be pulled, Skipper.

 

No its idiocy to talk about pulling your starting QB that has a grand total of 3 starts under his belt and only one of one of which was on the road against a defense with a pulse.  He's going to have growing pains.  Most people that understand football expect that.  Guess what.  He's going to miss more throws and throw more picks.  And "fans" like you will be calling for the backup just like you have the last 3 years I'm sure.   He's only going to get better if he plays through it.   Nothing more idiotic than fans that think QB2 is the answer to every loss year in and year out.

Posted
12 minutes ago, Skipper said:

No its idiocy to talk about pulling your starting QB that has a grand total of 3 starts under his belt and only one of one of which was on the road against a defense with a pulse.  He's going to have growing pains.  Most people that understand football expect that.  Guess what.  He's going to miss more throws and throw more picks.  And "fans" like you will be calling for the backup just like you have the last 3 years I'm sure.   He's only going to get better if he plays through it.   Nothing more idiotic than fans that think QB2 is the answer to every loss year in and year out.

The INT he threw didn’t bother me that much. Ball should have been further outside, but INTs happen.

 

 

the awful throws with bad foot placement with no one in his face should never happen.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

The INT he threw didn’t bother me that much. Ball should have been further outside, but INTs happen.

 

 

the awful throws with bad foot placement with no one in his face should never happen.

To your point - His mechanics on that throw were atrocious that’s why it ran out of gas and was an INT. 

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Posted (edited)

Here are the offense and defense points per game since Sark arrived.

2021

offense = 423 points / 35 per game

defense = 373 points / 31 per game

 

2022

offense = 448 points / 35 per game

defense = 28 points  /22 per game

 

2023

offense = 501 points / 36 per game

defense = 265 points / 19 per game

 

2024

offense = 528 points / 33  per game

defense = 245 points / 15 per game

 

2021-2024 TOTAL

offense = 34 per game

defense = 21 per game

KEY POINTS

-- Sark's offense has averaged 33-36 points per game all 4 years

-- Sark's points per game has not improved -- regardless of QB (whether it is Casey, Card, QE, Arch). 

-- Defense is the MAJOR improvement.

 

2021-2025 VS Top 12 (record is 3-10 ... 1-7 v Top 5)

offense = 24 per game

defense = 31 per game

-- Sark's offense drops 10 points per game, so he is not the play calling wizard against top teams.

-- defense gives up 10 more points per game.

-- not a title winning formula.

 

Offense VS Non Top 12  (record is 35-7)

2021 399/12 = 33

2022 365/9 = 41

2023 406/9 = 45

2024 410/12 = 35

-- Sark racks up point on lesser teams. No surprise.

 

CONCLUSION:

Sark is the constant on offense across all 4 seasons of 33-35 point averages.

Sark has serious trouble beating top teams. Offense scores less, has trouble in red zones, defense gives up more points. This has serious implications in the playoffs, as we have seen past two years. 

Unless, these patterns are changed, he will not win a national  title. 

That's the bottom line.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ryan Day did not plan for 8 months to have 200 yards of total offense and count on Texas bailing him out in the red zone in order to win a 14-7 game.

Let's be serious. 

Obviously not, but it's equally unserious to think Ohio State couldn't read the writing on the wall during the game. They turtled. It worked until Arch found a modicum of a pulse there in Q4 and it came back to bit them a bit. But they knew early on they were winning that game if they didn't hand it to Texas.

So in some sense I think the team stats and gap in total yardage are a bit of an illusion. That's not to say I don't think the Texas defense played a strong game because they obviously did.

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Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

bevoabyss plaintext

 

Here are the offense and defense points per game since Sark arrived.

2021

offense = 423 points / 35 per game

defense = 373 points / 31 per game

 

2022

offense = 448 points / 35 per game

defense = 28 points  /22 per game

 

2023

offense = 501 points / 36 per game

defense = 265 points / 19 per game

 

2024

offense = 528 points / 33  per game

defense = 245 points / 15 per game

 

2021-2024 TOTAL

offense = 34 per game

defense = 21 per game

KEY POINTS

-- Sark's offense has averaged 33-36 points per game all 4 years

-- Sark's points per game has not improved -- regardless of QB (whether it is Casey, Card, QE, Arch). 

-- Defense is the MAJOR improvement.

 

2021-2025 VS Top 12 (record is 3-10 ... 1-7 v Top 5)

offense = 24 per game

defense = 31 per game

-- Sark's offense drops 10 points per game, so he is not the play calling wizard against top teams.

-- defense gives up 10 more points per game.

-- not a title winning formula.

 

Offense VS Non Top 12  (record is 35-7)

2021 399/12 = 33

2022 365/9 = 41

2023 406/9 = 45

2024 410/12 = 35

-- Sark racks up point on lesser teams. No surprise.

 

CONCLUSION:

Sark is the constant on offense across all 4 seasons of 33-35 point averages.

Sark has serious trouble beating top teams. Offense scores less, has trouble in red zones, defense gives up more points. This has serious implications in the playoffs, as we have seen past two years. 

Unless, these patterns are changed, he will not win a national  title. 

That's the bottom line.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Here are the offense and defense points per game since Sark arrived.

2021

offense = 423 points / 35 per game

defense = 373 points / 31 per game

 

2022

offense = 448 points / 35 per game

defense = 28 points  /22 per game

 

2023

offense = 501 points / 36 per game

defense = 265 points / 19 per game

 

2024

offense = 528 points / 33  per game

defense = 245 points / 15 per game

 

2021-2024 TOTAL

offense = 34 per game

defense = 21 per game

KEY POINTS

-- Sark's offense has averaged 33-36 points per game all 4 years

-- Sark's points per game has not improved -- regardless of QB (whether it is Casey, Card, QE, Arch). 

-- Defense is the MAJOR improvement.

 

2021-2025 VS Top 12 (record is 3-10 ... 1-7 v Top 5)

offense = 24 per game

defense = 31 per game

-- Sark's offense drops 10 points per game, so he is not the play calling wizard against top teams.

-- defense gives up 10 more points per game.

-- not a title winning formula.

 

Offense VS Non Top 12  (record is 35-7)

2021 399/12 = 33

2022 365/9 = 41

2023 406/9 = 45

2024 410/12 = 35

-- Sark racks up point on lesser teams. No surprise.

 

CONCLUSION:

Sark is the constant on offense across all 4 seasons of 33-35 point averages.

Sark has serious trouble beating top teams. Offense scores less, has trouble in red zones, defense gives up more points. This has serious implications in the playoffs, as we have seen past two years. 

Unless, these patterns are changed, he will not win a national  title. 

That's the bottom line.

and there were a shitload of chucklefucks on this board that hated PK and wanted somebody else.  

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i plaintexted bevoabyss because his data paints and conclusion are compelling

unspoken is the measuring stick in this argument

in the world where stoops wins it all in year 2 is no more

smart made the title game in year 2 but took until year 6 to win a natty

dabo took 7.5 seasons to break through

saban won his 1st title in his 14th season as a head coach, year 3 at bama

tom landry had the albatross of "couldn't win the big one" for 5 years

it may take sark 10 years and i'm here for it

Posted
1 hour ago, BevoAbyss said:

Here are the offense and defense points per game since Sark arrived.

2021

offense = 423 points / 35 per game

defense = 373 points / 31 per game

 

2022

offense = 448 points / 35 per game

defense = 28 points  /22 per game

 

2023

offense = 501 points / 36 per game

defense = 265 points / 19 per game

 

2024

offense = 528 points / 33  per game

defense = 245 points / 15 per game

 

2021-2024 TOTAL

offense = 34 per game

defense = 21 per game

KEY POINTS

-- Sark's offense has averaged 33-36 points per game all 4 years

-- Sark's points per game has not improved -- regardless of QB (whether it is Casey, Card, QE, Arch). 

-- Defense is the MAJOR improvement.

 

2021-2025 VS Top 12 (record is 3-10 ... 1-7 v Top 5)

offense = 24 per game

defense = 31 per game

-- Sark's offense drops 10 points per game, so he is not the play calling wizard against top teams.

-- defense gives up 10 more points per game.

-- not a title winning formula.

 

Offense VS Non Top 12  (record is 35-7)

2021 399/12 = 33

2022 365/9 = 41

2023 406/9 = 45

2024 410/12 = 35

-- Sark racks up point on lesser teams. No surprise.

 

CONCLUSION:

Sark is the constant on offense across all 4 seasons of 33-35 point averages.

Sark has serious trouble beating top teams. Offense scores less, has trouble in red zones, defense gives up more points. This has serious implications in the playoffs, as we have seen past two years. 

Unless, these patterns are changed, he will not win a national  title. 

That's the bottom line.

I don't think it should be shocking that we score fewer points on elite teams.  Everyone scores fewer on elite teams.

There isn't a chasm between Texas and Ohio State.  It was a one score game and we didn't play well at the QB position.  Last year it was also close in so called "big" games, other than UGA1.  We're not losing due to systemic deficiencies, it's in the margins.  Flip 1-2 calls or plays and the result flips.  I believe Sark can get us there.

Posted
1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

if 4th quarter manning was there from the 1st series would you still say that?

The Manning who started and played most of the game is the only one I know how to judge. If he played great in the fourth quarter, obviously my condition would still apply: He wouldn't be playing badly, so there would be no need to bench him.

I'm surprised at the resistance to the notion that a QB who horribly misses easy passes should be replaced. That's my simple premise. Somehow that has been contorted into an advocacy that Manning should never play another down. I specify that if he continues to play as describe above, he should be benched as I think the guy under him can do better. Period.

Some moron took that to "I can't believe you're talking about benching after three bad quarters. Said moron doubles down. That suggests that the genius feels we should keep Manning on the field no matter what. 

I'm done with this topic. It's amusing that the moron referred to my post as "this board." I rarely post here. I'm hardly typical of it.

I want to see Manning succeed and believe that he will. Any player who doesn't should yield to one who can. Not exactly revoluitonary.

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My uninformed,  supremely confident hot take is, to one degree or another, Sark was sandbagging for the long haul

1! I remember somewhere or another Sark consulting with NFL coaches roster management over the extended course of an NFL season. He said he was going to play 100 players on defense at Ohio State. Did he? I DON'T KNOW but that doesn't matter and fuck Ewers.

2! There was some other place or podcast that said by the time the Cotton Bowl v OSU rolled around last year, Sark done run outta plays and everything was on tape. First and goal for a td but for other team lends a wallop to that. 

3! Here's the Blow Tha Fuck Outta Yer Brains prediction for y'all demanding an OC. 

Who would Sark bring in for an OC for an offense with a potentially impressive OL, big mobile qb whose forte' wasn't short timing routes but dropping deep dimes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frank Stallone

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Posted
1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Maybe The University of Texas dialing back the fascism would help. Bobby Burton welcoming some guy who just pardoned a convicted murderer onto his podcast was a below average day for me.

Wha??

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Maybe The University of Texas dialing back the fascism would help. Bobby Burton welcoming some guy who just pardoned a convicted murderer onto his podcast was a below average day for me.

What in the actual fuck are you jabbering about?

 

 

you know what? We don’t give a fuck. Take your political shit to CR… keep it out of this thread.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

He brought on Abbott before the game

 

Fuck your politics. Take that tripe to CR where it fucking belongs.

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Tonight’s College Football Enquirer podcast raked Sark over the coals about his play calling from inside the 25 - dating back to his Atlanta OC days.  It’s who he is. It isn’t changing.  

It’s a major problem that won’t be fixed 

Posted
Just now, lilMAC25 said:

Fuck your politics. Take that tripe to CR where it fucking belongs.

When politics tries to hold hands with sports, you can't just handwave it to another forum

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Posted
1 minute ago, troph said:

Politicians have no place on sports podcasts that’s just fucking stupid. 

 

Just now, chainsaw said:

Bobby had accepted a republican sheriff as a sponsor too

That Loewy dude is a huge fucking douche canoe

Posted
1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

When politics tries to hold hands with sports, you can't just handwave it to another forum

like crazy GIF
 

This isn’t even a fucking thread about Bobby Burton or who he had on his podcast.

 

This is about Five Star PhSteven.

 

 

start your own thread complaining about Bobby Burton.

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Posted
Just now, chainsaw said:

Bobby had accepted a republican sheriff as a sponsor too

Well I don’t watch his podcasts I think 9.95ers are fucking stupid. I do watch the national guys who are able to break shit down from time to time. Thankfully they don’t do gimmicky shit like pander to politicians for a buck they just talk X’s and O’s.

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God fucking damnit, quit CRing up my fucking thread. It was stupid enough when it was me bitching about his program early on at here at Texas.

 

fuck

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Posted
3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

That Loewy dude is a huge fucking douche canoe

He’s an okay guy in real life but a bit sanctimonious for sure. He lectures folks on LinkedIn and it’s a bit much.  We got it dude, you made a lot of money chasing ambulances good for you. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

The Manning who started and played most of the game is the only one I know how to judge. If he played great in the fourth quarter, obviously my condition would still apply: He wouldn't be playing badly, so there would be no need to bench him.

I'm surprised at the resistance to the notion that a QB who horribly misses easy passes should be replaced. That's my simple premise. Somehow that has been contorted into an advocacy that Manning should never play another down. I specify that if he continues to play as describe above, he should be benched as I think the guy under him can do better. Period.

Some moron took that to "I can't believe you're talking about benching after three bad quarters. Said moron doubles down. That suggests that the genius feels we should keep Manning on the field no matter what. 

I'm done with this topic. It's amusing that the moron referred to my post as "this board." I rarely post here. I'm hardly typical of it.

I want to see Manning succeed and believe that he will. Any player who doesn't should yield to one who can. Not exactly revoluitonary.

while I understand the premise, I will use the same argument for Manning that I did for Ewers.  Sark sees practice and Manning is his best chance to win.

who is the guy under him that you think can do better?

you also are discounting that this could be a Sark QB development problem.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Maybe The University of Texas dialing back the fascism would help. Bobby Burton welcoming some guy who just pardoned a convicted murderer onto his podcast was a below average day for me.

Gavin Newsom?

Posted
3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Gavin Newsom?

Dean Winchester Facepalm GIF

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

The delusion that sports won't Venn Diagram with politics and that people are expected to shut their mouths and sit on their hands when a guy that has fuck all to do with "the game" is brought on to bleat his shit.

The dude pardoned a convicted murderer.

THIS

THREAD

ISNT

ABOUT

POLITICS

OR

BOBBY

FUCKING

BURTON

 

START YOUR OWN THREAD BASHING BOBBY 

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