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6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

The fuck are you talking about? We were at the 1. We ran and failed. Then we toss sweep. What would you have done differently?

Not run a toss sweep

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When your QB is zero threat to run the ball and can't stretch defenses with a deep ball you are limited out of the gate. That's been Ewers his entire career. 


This is it in a nutshell.

Sark is absolutely to blame for the playcalling when it was 1st and 1 from the 1 yard line. That was horrendous and worthy of discussion elsewhere.

But we scored 14 points and our QB overthrew balls, underthrew balls, and has a knack for stepping into a collapsing pocket to self sack. He scrambles once or twice a game only because it is so completely unexpected, but he is not a threat on the ground and has no ability to scramble outside the pocket and make a pass or a play with his legs. On 95% of plays he moves a total of 2 yds from where he initially receives the snap. The comparisons to Chris Simms are true only if you put Chris Simms in ski boots.
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Just now, Thatguy said:

We were on the 1. That's where the story starts. Tell me where Ewers held us back from there?

It was shitty playcalling but again that doesn't deny the other parts of the game where Ewers once again showed major limitations. 

I.e. not taking the free yards in the run game, self-sacking himself, and missing open WRs. Ewers wasn't terrible tonight and he also wasn't good. That's who Ewers is but somehow you keep defending him like he's Tom Brady. 

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Hopefully that Quinn sack fumble on 4th down doesn't linger with fans.


Why does that one play have to linger when he did that repeatedly even in his 3rd year? Have you already forgotten how unnecessarily close the aggy game was after back-to-back Quinn blunders? That’s who he is.
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9 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

No he did not. You cannot believe that right?

Oh my god, STFU. Sark gives Quinn a bunch of short, easy throws because he's rarely accurate down the field. We barely use the middle of the field because half of those get batted down, and that's not all on the OL. It will be nice when we have a QB who can reliably hit a receiver more than 15 yards down the field. I hope you defend Arch as much as you've defended Quinn over the years, but something tells me you'll throw him under the bus just like you have with every other player not named Quinn.

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Just now, wild_turkey said:

 


Why does that one play have to linger when he did that repeatedly even in his 3rd year? Have you already forgotten how unnecessarily close the aggy game was after back-to-back Quinn blunders? That’s who he is.

 

I've been plenty critical of Quinn on this thread. Sark fucked this game up at the end and deserves most of the criticism. 

 

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Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

It was shitty playcalling but again that doesn't deny the other parts of the game where Ewers once again showed major limitations. 

I.e. not taking the free yards in the run game, self-sacking himself, and missing open WRs. Ewers wasn't terrible tonight and he also wasn't good. That's who Ewers is but somehow you keep defending him like he's Tom Brady. 

Every QB does the things you are bitching about. Every. Single. One. The QB next year is going to do all those same things too. That's why there is a completion percentage. The fact that you don't understand that is borderline regarded. We were right there. Ewers had played a clean game. Just run the fucking ball from the 1 until you get in. All season you guys can't see the issue even if someone rubs your face in it. You are going to be disappointed AGAIN next year if you expect your QB to make every throw and hit on every play.

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7 minutes ago, Gravy Train said:

Now I can see him portaling for 2025.  Who's giving him $4MM, Oregon?

I think the last 3 games coupled with meh QB play in the playoffs and Beck having one arm have set him up with a pretty nice draft spot actually. 

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3 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

Oh my god, STFU. Sark gives Quinn a bunch of short, easy throws because he's rarely accurate down the field. It will be nice when we have a QB who can reliably hit a receiver more than 15 yards down the field. I hope you defend Arch as much as you've defended Quinn over the years, but something tells me you'll throw him under the bus just like you have with every other player not named Quinn.

If we were building this offense for Quinn it would be a wide open, sideline to sideline spread. Not this power offense that we cannot run because our O-line is underwhelming.

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Every QB does the things you are bitching about. Every. Single. One. The QB next year is going to do all those same things too. That's why there is a completion percentage. The fact that you don't understand that is borderline regarded. We were right there. Ewers had played a clean game. Just run the fucking ball from the 1 until you get in. All season you guys can't see the issue even if someone rubs your face in it. You are going to be disappointed AGAIN next year if you expect your QB to make every throw and hit on every play.

It's like talking to a wall.

We were right there because our defense once again played well and held Ohio State to 21 points. Our offense shit the bed because of injuries, Sark's shitty playcalling, Ewers limitations, etc. 

The fact you can't recognize (or admit) that Ewers has limitations is actually incredible. He can't move and he can't throw the ball downfield. Again, that doesn't mean he was solely to blame for tonight's loss. 

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4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I think the last 3 games coupled with meh QB play in the playoffs and Beck having one arm have set him up with a pretty nice draft spot actually. 

I saw a mock draft grid today that placed DJ Ukulele at the top QB draft pick.  I guess he has a chance.

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4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

If we were building this offense for Quinn it would be a wide open, sideline to sideline spread. Not this power offense that we cannot run because our O-line is underwhelming.

So Quinn is in fact a nothing more than a glorified leach system QB who can only throw slants and curls on predetermined reads? That makes Quinn a good quarterback and a mediocre football player which is exactly what most of us are accusing him of.

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After the fumble return at 28-14, Quinn on 2nd down rolled out right after feeling pressure and threw an incompletion. I think that was the first time he moved out of the pocket? Or did I miss things earlier? 

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Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

It's like talking to a wall.

We were right there because our defense once again played well and held Ohio State to 21 points. Our offense shit the bed because of injuries, Sark's shitty playcalling, Ewers limitations, etc. 

The fact you can't recognize (or admit) that Ewers has limitations is actually incredible. He can't move and he can't throw the ball downfield. Again, that doesn't mean he was solely to blame for tonight's loss. 

Shut...the.....fuck....up! Dude threw had thrown for 280 and no turnovers and had us on the 1 yard line against the other best defense in college football. Show some got-damned respect! Mark my words. You are going to come back and apologize in this thread in the near future when you realize who the problem really is.

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3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

If beck can get 4m Quinn can get 5. That being said he already said he’s leaving 

 

not sure about walking around from $5mil guaranteed vs non first round nfl contract 

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5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

If beck can get 4m Quinn can get 5. That being said he already said he’s leaving 

I thank him for his service.

 

But it's time to see if it is Sark or the QB.

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Shut...the.....fuck....up! Dude threw had thrown for 280 and no turnovers and had us on the 1 yard line against the other best defense in college football. Show some got-damned respect! Mark my words. You are going to come back and apologize in this thread in the near future when you realize who the problem really is.

Who’s the problem?

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Fuck Quinn. I hope that pussy never comes back to Texas. Him and Simms can suck each others dicks On CBS. 

You're being a massive cunt. 

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Just now, Thatguy said:

Shut...the.....fuck....up! Dude threw had thrown for 280 and no turnovers and had us on the 1 yard line against the other best defense in college football. Show some got-damned respect! Mark my words. You are going to come back and apologize in this thread in the near future when you realize who the problem really is.

You are biased.

You are in some way connected to Ewers because it's the only rational explanation. If you're too stubborn to recognize Ewers has limitations that held this offense back I don't know what to tell ya. 

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14 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Every QB does the things you are bitching about. Every. Single. One. The QB next year is going to do all those same things too. That's why there is a completion percentage. The fact that you don't understand that is borderline regarded. We were right there. Ewers had played a clean game. Just run the fucking ball from the 1 until you get in. All season you guys can't see the issue even if someone rubs your face in it. You are going to be disappointed AGAIN next year if you expect your QB to make every throw and hit on every play.

I don’t think it’s too much to ask your quarterback to not turnover the ball every single game. What is it 5 games in a row now throwing a pick?

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Just now, closetohumping said:

Who’s the problem?

Toss sweep on the 1 against the other fastest defense in CFB is the problem. If Arch was in there and we ran that I wouldn't blame Arch for that shit either. We get too cute instead of just playing football.

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

After the fumble return at 28-14, Quinn on 2nd down rolled out right after feeling pressure and threw an incompletion. I think that was the first time he moved out of the pocket? Or did I miss things earlier? 

This was a major issue all year. 

Sark is probably partly to blame for it but Ewers also has zero mobility. Teams just tee off at the LOS because they know Ewers is no threat to move the pocket with his legs. It's part of the reason our run game also struggled. 

 

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1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

You are biased.

You are in some way connected to Ewers because it's the only rational explanation. If you're too stubborn to recognize Ewers has limitations that held this offense back I don't know what to tell ya. 

And you are stupid. Dude played a clean game until we went full regard on the 1. You can't see what's in your face. Our line is awful and we call plays like we are scared. Bring Arch in and watch us do the same thing.

 

2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

This was a major issue all year. 

Sark is probably partly to blame for it but Ewers also has zero mobility. Teams just tee off at the LOS because they know Ewers is no threat to move the pocket with his legs. It's part of the reason our run game also struggled. 

 

Again, another retarded post. When we have rolled the pocket things have worked out right? We don't roll the pocket because Sark doesn't call it. Use your TE to wash the DE inside and let Quinn roll out and throw. Not hard. We did it to Golden last game. Quinn was plenty good enough to win that game. Don't put your worst pass blocker on an island vs one of the best DE's in CFB when you have to absolutely have it on 4th down.

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9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I don’t think it’s too much to ask your quarterback to not turnover the ball every single game. What is it 5 games in a row now throwing a pick?

Cam Williams literally just let Saywer walk past him and barely got a hand on him. Go back and rewatch the play. Count one one thousand. This will be the last thing I am going to say about all this. All year we ran ineffectively when we played anyone with a pulse defensively. Then we asked the QB to bail us out on pass rush downs all year long. The last series was a microcosm of the season. Ineffective running caused by a combination of bad execution and bad playcalling. Followed by asking your immobile QB to bail you out while doing nothing to slow the pass rush. We deserved to lose there.

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18 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Shut...the.....fuck....up! Dude threw had thrown for 280 and no turnovers and had us on the 1 yard line against the other best defense in college football. Show some got-damned respect! Mark my words. You are going to come back and apologize in this thread in the near future when you realize who the problem really is.

We should get that OTHER top 3 play caller to help Quinn.

"Self-sack QE" can take his talents elsewhere.  Hook 'em and good luck.!!!

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5 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

We don't roll the pocket because Sark doesn't call it. Use your TE to wash the DE inside and let Quinn roll out and throw. Not hard. We did it to Golden last game. Quinn was plenty good enough to win that game. Don't put your worst pass blocker on an island vs one of the best DE's in CFB when you have to absolutely have it on 4th down.

Sark rolled the pocket a ton with QBs at Alabama. 

It's almost like he recognized Ewers can't move and stuff happens like the end of this game. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Cam Williams literally just let Saywer walk past him and barely got a hand on him. Go back and rewatch the play. Count one one thousand. This will be the last thing I am going to say about all this. All year we ran ineffectively when we played anyone with a pulse defensively. Then we asked the QB to bail us out on pass rush downs all year long. The last series was a microcosm of the season. Ineffective running caused by a combination of bad execution and bad playcalling. Followed by asking your immobile QB to bail you out while doing nothing to slow the pass rush. We deserved to lose there.

Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

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Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

Sark rolled the pocket a ton with QBs at Alabama. 

It's almost like he recognized Ewers can't move and stuff happens like the end of this game. 

Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

By making a decision to do something with the football before you’re being hit. You can tuck it, you can throw it, you can roll it outta bounds for all I care. What you can’t do is get caught with the ball unsecured. 
This ain’t about one play. It’s about what he has done consistently which is turn the ball over. He doesn’t play clean games. 

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

Somebody has forgotten the Charlie Strong and Tom Herman years.  Many of you posting critically of him are pathetic. 

We used to be bad so we should be thankful to be almost good enough. Loser mentality 

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7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

2 things are not possible at the same time if one of them is a negative against Quinn. 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn throws well on the move, well too fucking bad he doesn’t move well. 

Exactly. 

Those last two plays on the goal line is why we don't move the pocket with Ewers. His mobility is fucking terrible. There were obviously other issues on those plays but Ewers cannot move. 

When he moves laterally it often looks like he's going to trip over is own feet. 

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While Quinn wasn't horrible, I have no idea how he got that #1 recruit overall ranking back in high school. Watching this guy for 3 years and none of his tools jump out. Thank you for bringing us back to relevance though Quinn, don't win that Alabama game without you

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2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

We used to be bad so we should be thankful to be almost good enough. Loser mentality 

Well, we beat aggie who played ND really close, we also beat Michigan who beat OSU and they are both playing for the NC so that means Sark and Quinn are amazing. It's a sign.

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

He’ll finish his Texas career as 3rd in yards and TDs, lowest in INTs of the Top 10 passers in Texas history, 2nd lowest INT rate behind Sam, and 2nd in QB rating behind Colt - ahead of VY and Sam.

Cool. Chris Simms had a bunch of records at one point too. The goal is to win.

His QB rating is better than VY, he must be better than VY.

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1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

He’ll finish his Texas career as 3rd in yards and TDs, lowest in INTs of the Top 10 passers in Texas history, 2nd lowest INT rate behind Sam, and 2nd in QB rating behind Colt - ahead of VY and Sam.

Cool. Not a top 5 qb in school history you fucking pussy

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15 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   Then you can tell us how even though the offense is better, how it would be better this year with Quinn because everything around Manning is better….   

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3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

He was much more successful than Simms. Just behind VY and Colt in that regard, and it isn’t even close. 

 

Cool. 
 

 

who would guess a QB in 2024 would have more stats than QBs from 1950-2002!!!! Shocking

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1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   

yup, knew the pressure was there but as usual had no real feel for what to do.

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Just now, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   

Think about what your dumb ass just said. Pull it down and do what? It's 4th down. Pull it down and run for it? That's a long 10 yard run with all eyes on him. He has to throw there.

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2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   Then you can tell us how even though the offense is better, how it would be better this year with Quinn because everything around Manning is better….   

Any QB with athletic ability that acknowledges he saw the guy coming but did nothing to make him miss or extend the play is dogshit 

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