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25 minutes ago, MrBig said:

 

In the video of Quinn’s agent doing a radio show posted a few pages back, Quinn’s own agent said he was “throwing the football 88 yards in the 8th grade.” It’s not some stupid shit Derka made up, it came from Ron Slavin’s stupid mouth.

Quinn has a shitty agent saying bullshit like “88 yards in the 8th grade” and saying that “half of the NFL QBs went to their coaches/GMs and said not to draft Quinn because he’s such a big name and it’s too much pressure having him as a backup and thats why he fell to the 7th round.” These dumbass quotes are right from Quinn’s agent’s mouth. He needs better representation. 

God Quinn has a retarded agent. But like Immamac says, maybe he’s a reflection of his client and his clients father. 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, MrBig said:

 

In the video of Quinn’s agent doing a radio show posted a few pages back, Quinn’s own agent said he was “throwing the football 88 yards in the 8th grade.” It’s not some stupid shit Derka made up, it came from Ron Slavin’s stupid mouth.

Quinn has a shitty agent saying bullshit like “88 yards in the 8th grade” and saying that “half of the NFL QBs went to their coaches/GMs and said not to draft Quinn because he’s such a big name and it’s too much pressure having him as a backup and thats why he fell to the 7th round.” These dumbass quotes are right from Quinn’s agent’s mouth. He needs better representation. 

I wasn’t aware that Quinn’s agent posts here.  Maybe @immamaccan provide his handle.

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10 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

At this point it doesn't matter what I say, I provided you with numbers form an analytics guy and you shoot down the guy based on how he looks. Most analytics guys aren't chiseled jawline Brad Pitt looking guys. But lets be honest if you honestly think Quinn is an accurate passer beyond 10 yards then I'll just bow out of this and laugh at you for even having that thought. Every NFL scout and scouting report produced dinged Ewers for being inaccurate beyond 10 yards. They also dinged him for leaving his progressions too early and checking down thus further gaming his completion percentage. 

 

Here is some advanced stats from Lamar at Louisville with regards to accuracy. 

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I think I left it alone based on his looks, but really the guy is a glorified blogger, not a scout/coach for some NFL/CFL team.   He did post some numbers, but without any context as to how he arrived at any of it.  And without that context, then then it is just junk.  

To the picture you posted above with the text, there is no link to the source and no context again.   

And once again, the topic where I got in on it, was that Ewers was a very good college QB for Texas.  That he might not measure up to NFL standards is irrelevant to his performance at Texas.  To claim that he was inaccurate and imprecise when he was completing approximately 65% over his 3-year career at Texas.   This is like listening to people tell me Greg Davis was a horrible coordinator when his teams averaged 40 ppg for 10-years, as if it was just luck.   

 

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, markstanco said:

[Re: Eli Manning making it into the NFL Hall of Fame]

You are probably correct, but I dont think it is too deserving for reasons pointed out.  


The place in Canton, Ohio is not named “The NFL Hall of Most Outstanding Players”.

•I think that Eli being Archie’s son & Peyton’s little brother will help him.

•I think that having played his entire career in NYC will help him.

•I think that winning 2 Super Bowls will help him.

•I think that winning those Super Bowls over Tom Brady & Bill Belichick will help them.

•I think that doing that Chad Powers video prank helps him.

•I think that doing the MNF watch along with his brother helps him.

•I think that being Arch’s uncle will contribute to his sustained “Fame”.

•I think that videos like this also contribute to his likability.

•I think that videos like this one, that point out Eli’s superior accomplishments vs Peyton’s (2 Super Bowl MVP vs Peyton’s 1 SB MVP) help Eli.


And I think that due to it being the NFL Hall of Fame, Eli’s fame will eventually get him elected.

 

8 hours ago, Park Gothic said:

Goal line TD to Sweat in the 2023 Big 12 CCG:

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6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Tennessee Titans select Texas Longhorns DT T'Vondre Sweat in second round  of NFL draft


I absolutely loved this TD by T-Sweat!

But the celebration was even better than the TD. 

“T’Vondre Sweat, you are a Longhorn Legend!”

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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I think I left it alone based on his looks, but really the guy is a glorified blogger, not a scout/coach for some NFL/CFL team.   He did post some numbers, but without any context as to how he arrived at any of it.  And without that context, then then it is just junk.  

To the picture you posted above with the text, there is no link to the source and no context again.   

And once again, the topic where I got in on it, was that Ewers was a very good college QB for Texas.  That he might not measure up to NFL standards is irrelevant to his performance at Texas.  To claim that he was inaccurate and imprecise when he was completing approximately 65% over his 3-year career at Texas.   This is like listening to people tell me Greg Davis was a horrible coordinator when his teams averaged 40 ppg for 10-years, as if it was just luck.   

 

 

 

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For reference is is Klubniks

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Leavitts

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Literally nobody here has said they believe the middle school line. That’s the voices in your head again. 

@AnotherLawyer talked a whole bunch of shit to me about how there was easy to find video of it, dumbass. several others then hopped on ghat train and have been arguing with me about it ever since then. i haven’t been arguing with myself for three pages. 

thatguy somehow has no idea where this “80 yards in middle school” talk came from, and you’ve somehow read the last 3-4 pages yet missed every single shit-talking reply to me (replete with tangential videos of HS aged quinn throwing 70 as “proof” that he really did throw 80+ in middle school) insisting that the mythology is true. can i interest either of you in a Hooked On Phonics subscription, or would you rather just keep talking shit while being clueless?

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On 5/9/2025 at 3:44 PM, Derka said:

vince young maxed out at around 74 yards, but sure, 14 year old quinn was throwing 80+. anybody who believes that has probably sent money to multiple nigerian princes.

 

On 5/9/2025 at 5:37 PM, AnotherLawyer said:

It's stuff like this that really makes it difficult to engage you civilly. There's easy-to-find video out there of Ewers doing these things, but you decided to insult people instead of fact-checking yourself.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i said that you’re a moron if you believe that QE was throwing 80+ in middle school, and this was the response i got which led to the debate. there’s “easy to find video of quinn doing these things”. except that no there isn’t, because he wasn’t throwing 80+ in middle school, as his agent said he was. that’s been the argument for the last 3-4 pages. not sure how you and thatguy missed it. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Nivek said:

you failed to do that from the outset by misrepresenting what was stated and by whom.  

the hell are you even talking about? his agent said that he was throwing 80+ in middle school, and i said that was bullshit. what part of that has been misrepresented in any way?

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so now that’s you, thatguy, and hank hill, all talking shit while being completely clueless as to what’s even being discussed in this thread, all within a couple of hours. way to go guys- you’re really doing the rest of the cult proud. way to represent. ✊🏼

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15 minutes ago, Derka said:

@AnotherLawyer talked a whole bunch of shit to me about how there was easy to find video of it, dumbass. several others then hopped on ghat train and have been arguing with me about it ever since then. i haven’t been arguing with myself for three pages. 

thatguy somehow has no idea where this “80 yards in middle school” talk came from, and you’ve somehow read the last 3-4 pages yet missed every single shit-talking reply to me (replete with tangential videos of HS aged quinn throwing 70 as “proof” that he really did throw 80+ in middle school) insisting that the mythology is true. can i interest either of you in a Hooked On Phonics subscription, or would you rather just keep talking shit while being clueless?

He literally responded to you saying he was 16 years old in regards to the video. Again, nobody believes he did this in middle school as you claim. You’re projecting your illiteracy. 

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11 minutes ago, Derka said:

the hell are you even talking about? his agent said that he was throwing 80+ in middle school, and i said that was bullshit. what part of that has been misrepresented in any way?

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so now that’s you, thatguy, and hank hill, all talking shit while being completely clueless as to what’s even being discussed in this thread, all within a couple of hours. way to go guys- you’re really doing the rest of the cult proud. way to represent. ✊🏼

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tough look for you. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i said that you’re a moron if you believe that QE was throwing 80+ in middle school, and this was the response i got which led to the debate. there’s “easy to find video of quinn doing these things”. except that no there isn’t, because he wasn’t throwing 80+ in middle school, as his agent said he was. that’s been the argument for the last 3-4 pages. not sure how you and thatguy missed it. 

That's not what I said. You're clearly not stupid, so I have to conclude it's intentional misrepresentation since you cut out what I actually DID say. And proved yet again my point that this is why it's difficult to have a civil conversation with you. I imagine you actually have reasonable, insightful opinions to post, but Jesusfuck it's bookended by vast quantities of this kind of shit.

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

 To claim that he was inaccurate and imprecise when he was completing approximately 65% over his 3-year career at Texas.   This is like listening to people tell me Greg Davis was a horrible coordinator when his teams averaged 40 ppg for 10-years, as if it was just luck.   

 

Are you really pretending Quinn was an accurate or precise quarterback? That’s one of the dumbest things posted in this thread.

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Then you read the Greg Davis sentence…. 

I actually agree somewhat about the Greg Davis thing. Good offensive coordinator/QB coach, horrible play caller.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Then you read the Greg Davis sentence…. 

He wasn't wrong. GDGD was a good OC who was held back by Mack Brown and a lack of self-confidence. Our playbook was the size of the Greater Houston Yellow Pages, but he had a small list of about 15 plays taped to the front cover that he would resort to whenever he got nervous, which was all the time. And FUPM wanted so badly to be known as an Xs and Os coach that he would frequently jump on the mic and overrule whatever play was called.

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First time I’ve heard about Mack overturning play calls regularly. Greg Davis was a terrible playcaller without question.

None of that is relevant to the plainly false claim that Quinn was accurate and precise. He absolutely was neither of those things 

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It's relevant to BOW being a know-nothing shitstain. Probably almost half of GD's bad playcalls were FUPM. Colt getting hurt against KSU? "No...run it again."

I can agree Ewers isn't an "accurate QB," but it's disingenuous to say Ewers was an "inaccurate QB." He was shit on the deep ball. He usually had accurate ball placement on intermediate middle routes.

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Just now, AnotherLawyer said:

It's relevant to BOW being a know-nothing shitstain. Probably almost half of GD's bad playcalls were FUPM. Colt getting hurt against KSU? "No...run it again."

You’re so mad Quinn is a mid QB that cost us a natty. 

Posted
22 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I actually agree somewhat about the Greg Davis thing. Good offensive coordinator/QB coach, horrible play caller.

For me, the play calling can override the other.  Didn’t like his play calling.

Then he went to Iowa with a veteran QB who I believe proceeded to have an awful year.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

For me, the play calling can override the other.  Didn’t like his play calling.

Then he went to Iowa with a veteran QB who I believe proceeded to have an awful year.

And, yet, ol’ Kirk somehow replaced him with an even worse choice lol.

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20 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

It's relevant to BOW being a know-nothing shitstain. Probably almost half of GD's bad playcalls were FUPM. Colt getting hurt against KSU? "No...run it again."

I can agree Ewers isn't an "accurate QB," but it's disingenuous to say Ewers was an "inaccurate QB." He was shit on the deep ball. He usually had accurate ball placement on intermediate middle routes.

If he “isn’t an accurate QB” how is it disingenuous to say the word that means that? 
And he didn’t have accurate placement on those throws as the numbers above point out.

So much parsing of language and excuse making.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Well, now that the infamous bodybuilding.com forum --home of the thread where guys are arguing about how many days there are in a week -- is gone, y'all should be proud that this thread can now be in the running for "Stupidest thread on the internet."

Congratulations!

I Did It Win GIF by Rocky

Who’s yall? You’re posting in this thread just to complain about it. Not much dumber than that

Posted
3 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

And, yet, ol’ Kirk somehow replaced him with an even worse choice lol.

I didn’t recall whether it immediately got worse or took some time.

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

If he “isn’t an accurate QB” how is it disingenuous to say that word that means that? 
And he didn’t have accurate placement on those throws as the numbers above point out.

So much parsing of language and excuse making.

I thought we were in agreement that completion percentage wasn’t the same thing as accuracy? Ewers had good ball placement on those routes. Downfield he was horrible after Bama two seasons ago.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

I didn’t recall whether it immediately got worse or took some time.

Oh yeah, I mean Davis wasn’t good at Iowa, but Brian Ferentz was comically bad.  Check this fuckin’ shit out.

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Brian, like his father Kirk Ferentz, is an adherent to complementary football, a theory that believes a poor offense assists an excellent defense and finds advantage in field position rather than points.

 

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3 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

I thought we were in agreement that completion percentage wasn’t the same thing as accuracy? Ewers had good ball placement on those routes. Downfield he was horrible after Bama two seasons ago.

You’d think if his ball placement was good on intermediate throws his completion percentage and on target rates would be better than middling. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Oh yeah, I mean Davis wasn’t good at Iowa, but Brian Ferentz was comically bad.  Check this fuckin’ shit out.

 

But Brian is good enough to be Fresnos TE coach.  You inspired me to search.  I recall his last season at Iowa he was much hated.  Terrible, terrible offense.

Posted
Just now, Had Enough said:

But Brian is good enough to be Fresnos TE coach.  You inspired me to search.  I recall his last season at Iowa he was much hated.  Terrible, terrible offense.

I think they averaged single digits or just out of single digits offensive ppg under him 

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5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You’d think if his ball placement was good on intermediate throws his completion percentage and on target rates would be better than middling. 

64.7% OTR is good. There’s no real statistical difference between mid 60s and low 70s. High 70s to 80+ is otherworldly.

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1 minute ago, AnotherLawyer said:

64.7% OTR is good. There’s no real statistical difference between mid 60s and low 70s. High 70s to 80+ is otherworldly.

It’s 57th percentile in the last 5 years of college football. So pretty much the definition of average.

Posted
13 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Who’s yall? You’re posting in this thread just to complain about it. Not much dumber than that

No no no, I posted a long time ago, back before this thread became... whatever it is now. I was sharing e.g. Kurt Warner's film breakdown of the Vanderbilt game. You know, actual football talk. NOT... whatever this is here.

At this point...

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Although mockery of the current participants is a sign of intelligence, too.

Posted
1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

No no no, I posted a long time ago, back before this thread became... whatever it is now. I was sharing e.g. Kurt Warner's film breakdown of the Vanderbilt game. You know, actual football talk. NOT... whatever this is here.

At this point...

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Although mockery of the current participants is a sign of intelligence, too.

I wasn’t aware that discussion of Quinn’s accuracy was somehow not “actual football talk”. But hey here you are still posting in the thread. Thanks for contributing

Posted
1 hour ago, AnotherLawyer said:

64.7% OTR is good. There’s no real statistical difference between mid 60s and low 70s. High 70s to 80+ is otherworldly.

So when Quinn throws 10-19 yards…

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