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Supreme Court Justice Kennedy to Retire at the end of July


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11 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Focus cheeseweez !

“Judge Kavanaugh last night and it further solidifies my opinion that he’s a thoughtful and reasoned constructionist conservative when it comes to applying the law. Meaning he is bound by Stare Decisis or Judicial precedent.  In layman’s terms, he follows the prior rulings of the Court and doesn’t aim to make new law. Take for example his dissenting opinion in Garza v. Hargan (2017) - the ‘abortion’ case reflects anything but a mission to overturn Roe v Wade. His dissent specifically states that the government has the right “...to impose reasonable regulations so as they do not unduly burden the right to an abortion that the Court has recognized.” That sounds to me like he’s acknowledging that even an undocumented immigrant minor has a legal right to an abortion...

A couple of things:

1. It would be incredibly ballsy (aka, idiotic) for a lower court judge to provide a new decision on abortion (or any subject) that contradicts a SC ruling.  It would obviously be appealed and not stand.  That doesn't really inform us, one way or the other, about whether he feels the SC should continue to respect past SC decisions.

2. It seems unlikely that Kavanaugh would suggest directly overruling RvW.  Even if he did, he wouldn't have four other jurists who joined him.  The concern is whether he would consistently rule against abortion rights absent any obvious, direct contradiction to precedent.  My guess is there is a good chance he would, but I haven't really studied his opinions and don't really have the background to do so adequately. 

So I think abortion rights advocates have reason to be concerned. I just don't think there is a hell of a lot anyone can do about it. 

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You don't want this, some of them actually know how to do politics:

 

So capitalizing upon class warfare and tax idiocy is the road to victory?

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Are there people who truly feel that socialism is a good path for the US? What is the incentive to work? If people don't have incentive to work, doesn't society collapse? Who bakes the bread? Who harvests crops? Wouldn't the smartest, most productive, and most creative people stop working if they could not receive proper incentive for their work? Even if you did receive proper incentive, you wouldn't be able to get anyone else to provide you any services so what's the point?

And as I’ve pointed out previously, socialist countries have flatter tax structures.  So the poors and middle class taxes will be going up a lot more than mine.  

I don’t oppose socialism so much for the impact on me, I oppose it because it will devastate our economy. 

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6 minutes ago, slorch said:

So capitalizing upon class warfare and tax idiocy is the road to victory?

Yes, it is. It's almost like you don't realize that a populist moron who has no idea how policies work is our current President.

BUT LOOK AT ALL THOSE STUPID POPULISTS ON THE LEFT! THEY'RE SO DUMB STUPID LIBTARDS!

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Are there people who truly feel that socialism is a good path for the US? What is the incentive to work? If people don't have incentive to work, doesn't society collapse? Who bakes the bread? Who harvests crops? Wouldn't the smartest, most productive, and most creative people stop working if they could not receive proper incentive for their work? Even if you did receive proper incentive, you wouldn't be able to get anyone else to provide you any services so what's the point?

And as I’ve pointed out previously, socialist countries have flatter tax structures.  So the poors and middle class taxes will be going up a lot more than mine.  

I don’t oppose socialism so much for the impact on me, I oppose it because it will devastate our economy. 

Socialism is a terrible path for any country.

But socialism is what crony capitalism becomes once enough of the population is fed up. What do you think the odds are that either of the two major parties we have rolls back crony capitalism? Here's a hint that you won't get from your Facebook feed: Democrats aren't actually for socialism. They feed the crony capitalism beast just like the GOP.

When the pendulum swings toward socialism you will have only you and your ilk to blame.

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

And as I’ve pointed out previously, socialist countries has flatter tax structures.  So the poors and middle class taxes will be going up a lot more than mine.  

I don’t oppose socialism so much for the impact on me, I oppose it because it will devastate our economy. 

Pretty much all other nations have flatter tax structures (Canada comes to mind as a maybe).

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Just now, wildcat09 said:

GOP: " FUCK THE GAYS AND THE BLACKS AND THE MEXICANS AND THE MUSLIMS!"

Dems: "We should raise taxes on the rich by 2% to pay for healthcare for everybody."

Sack: "HOW DARE YOU FUCKING DEMS RESORT TO CLASS WARFARE!"

What is the rich?  And how much will that two percent raise?

The modern left’s entire platform is based on class warfare and identity politics. Race.  Religion. Lgbtcasgdjfjwu

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So now we have a socialist discussion on the SC thread, as well as the election 2018 thread. 

We have socialist programs and we have had them for a long time.  Social Security is an obvious one.  You can argue that the interstate system and public education are two others, although those are so ingrained in mindset, it's difficult to really distinguish them. 

So is a "socialist" someone who merely supports these programs and wants to emulates them in things like health care and the university system, or does it mean that they want a bloody revolution and eat the rich?  Labels mean less than specifics. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

What is the rich?  And how much will that two percent raise?

The modern left’s entire platform is based on class warfare and identity politics. Race.  Religion. Lgbtcasgdjfjwu

Your party's platform is white supremacy. You don't get to bitch about identity politics.

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10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Your party's platform is white supremacy. You don't get to bitch about identity politics.

It is?  Where in the platform?  Can you copy and paste or are you just making shit up?

you libs have claimed every GOP presidential candidate in my life was a nazi racist — Reagan, Bush 1, Dole, Bush 2, McCain, Romney, and now Trump. Your boy crying wolf shit is stale and played out.  

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Just now, Johnny Sack said:

It is?  Where in the platform?  Can you copy and paste or are you just making shit up?

you libs have claimed every GOP presidential candidate in my life was a nazi racist — Reagan, Bush 1, Dole, Bush 2, McCain, Romney, and now Trump. Your boy crying wolf shit is stale and played out.  

The problem is non libs are claiming it now too.  

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24 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

The modern left’s entire platform is based on class warfare and identity politics. 

The current GOP is powered by the exploitation of class and racial tension way more than the Democratic Party. This is undeniable.

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38 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Are there people who truly feel that socialism is a good path for the US? What is the incentive to work? If people don't have incentive to work, doesn't society collapse? Who bakes the bread? Who harvests crops? Wouldn't the smartest, most productive, and most creative people stop working if they could not receive proper incentive for their work? Even if you did receive proper incentive, you wouldn't be able to get anyone else to provide you any services so what's the point?

And as I’ve pointed out previously, socialist countries have flatter tax structures.  So the poors and middle class taxes will be going up a lot more than mine.  

I don’t oppose socialism so much for the impact on me, I oppose it because it will devastate our economy. 

No one is proposing that we move away from capitalism. Nice strawman

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The legislative branch can really only punish the judicial by limiting funding, refusing salary increases, and just stop confirming new judges.    Tell them they have to do more with less.  


Assume the Dems hold both houses. What if they decide to expand SCOTUS and add two judges? Where does the constitution say that 9 is the correct number?
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1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

 


Assume the Dems hold both houses. What if they decide to expand SCOTUS and add two judges? Where does the constitution say that 9 is the correct number?

 

Seems like a race to the bottom and whoever is in power packs the court the other way.

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Idk why anyone keeps engaging with Johnny Sackofshit and his sock.

Because it's really funny when he gets flustered and has to tell everyone:

a) how successful he is;

b) how he made it all on his own, millionaire grandfather notwithstanding;

c) how he's the white savior of Haiti; or

d) all of the above

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46 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Are there people who truly feel that socialism is a good path for the US?

Do you actually know what socialism is?  If so, do you see a significant faction of the US -- hell, of the left -- pushing for socialism?

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20 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

But keep with the racist, sexist rhetoric that has resulted in the GOP having the most power it’s had in my life.  

The right has been spouting this same bullshit my entire life, and it didn't stop the Ds from taking the presidency, both houses, and a 60-vote majority less than a decade ago, with a guy you called a socialist leading the way.   Trump didn't win because of your pet peeves about the left, and none of us are worried that they did just because you and others on the right are desperate to believe that they give you a permanent lock on the government.   It wasn't true when the Rs thought so under Bush, nor when the Ds thought so under Obama, and it isn't now either.   Ds won't change in the ways you contend they must, and they'll win anyway, and sooner than you think. 

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11 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

The problem is non libs are claiming it now too.  

This, I am not a liberal, progressive, leftist or Democrat. As a libertarian, I always related to the Republican fiscal stance up until the election of Trump. Then the GOP lost their fucking minds and went full blown bat shit crazy.

The party has become protectionist, anti-immigration, Keynesian (but in a retarded way), isolationist, and blatantly racist (welcoming the Alt-right).

They chased out George Fucking Will. This is not your father's Republican Party.

 

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Same thing happens with doctors and every other profession too. Not many doctors could pass a gross anatomy practical exam without some major prep time to re-learn the material. 

How does one prep for a “gross anatomy” test...by reviewing Vic’s text messages?
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