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Posted
15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

What part of it? I didn't see that, but only skimmed it, and will read it later.

Part two, where there is speculation on another DJT run (Wiles says no).

 

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If JD Vance runs for president, he’s going to be our nominee, and I’ll be one of the first people to support him,

 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Part two, where there is speculation on another DJT run (Wiles says no).

 

 

Why is this troubling?

I get that Vance is a) a lot smarter than Trump and b) apparently in the thrall of YarvinThielco, which makes him very dangerous indeed.

I also think he's unelectable.

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Part two, where there is speculation on another DJT run (Wiles says no).

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Why is this troubling?

Yeah, Rubio is young and knows Vance will be tainted by Trump in 2028 and will lose.

Although if this little war with Venezuela is the cluster fuck we are expecting, Rubio is going to be fully tainted as well.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Why is this troubling?

I get that Vance is a) a lot smarter than Trump and b) apparently in the thrall of YarvinThielco, which makes him very dangerous indeed.

I also think he's unelectable.

Because our best hope of non-fuckery in that election is a contested GOP primary. 

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, Rubio is young and knows Vance will be tainted by Trump in 2028 and will lose.

Although if this little war with Venezuela is the cluster fuck we are expecting, Rubio is going to be fully tainted as well.

Well, yeah, assuming the unpopularity of Trumpco holds, he'll be tainted among the rationals.

He also has I think about zero appeal to the base.  They. Have. To. Have. The. Base.

 

Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

Because our best hope of non-fuckery in that election is a contested GOP primary. 

How so?

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38 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Buried in that article is Rubio conceding that he will stand aside for Vance and its very troubling that a succession plan is in place. 

Also in that article she shits on JD and takes a nicer tone with Rubio.

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9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, yeah, assuming the unpopularity of Trumpco holds, he'll be tainted among the rationals.

He also has I think about zero appeal to the base.  They. Have. To. Have. The. Base.

 

How so?

Because the best defense against a unified attempt to rig the election is to have republicans busy competing against each other and maybe even a non-MAGA favored candidate emerging as the winner. An anointed JD Vance will have the entire apparatus working to install him. 

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4 minutes ago, landman said:

What in the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

She's a fucking cunt.

She needs to take her Luka-less Mavericks and get the fuck out.

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9 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

 

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Say what you want about Trump, but he knows how to rally his base and get them out. It's why he had that little TV show for 14 fucking years, among other things - he knows how to play to people and how to use the limelight and loved the spotlight like nobody else in the last 40 years.

Vance knows how to play to...Silicon Valley.  He was way too uncomfortable when the spotlight was on him.

 

33 minutes ago, landman said:

What in the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

They want more money.

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Seriously, as litigious as these people are, you think Vanity Fair isn't going to have all their I's dotted and T's crossed.  The interview was exactly what Vanity Fair said it was. 

And VF has audio tapes.

Reading through it, I'm beginning to wonder if this is a conspiracy of sorts, but one not involving Trump. Like somebody or several somebodies in that photo above decided they were going to get some negative shit out there about Trump from a legitimate inside source. Whether VF chose her or they did and worked out the details with VF that she would be the focus, doesn't matter. I could even see some of them agreeing to have her say some negative shit about them (since people will soon forget it) so that it didn't look like she was just dissing Trump.  

I'm not saying anything like 25th Amendment or anything that big, just laying the groundwork for some of them to try and show there was distance between them and Trump or laying the groundwork for 2028 and saying "Hey, you saw what Wiles said about Trump, we were doing the best we could, but that was Trump."

Wiles didn't say this in a vacuum, it was over 11 interviews, with background interviews from some of the people in that photo (and they posed for multiple photos for this article) and it was all recorded. I don't want to toot the conspiracy theory horn, but she knew exactly what she was saying, regardless of context.

Posted
8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Say what you want about Trump, but he knows how to rally his base and get them out. It's why he had that little TV show for 14 fucking years, among other things - he knows how to play to people and how to use the limelight and loved the spotlight like nobody else in the last 40 years.

Vance knows how to play to...Silicon Valley.  He was way too uncomfortable when the spotlight was on him.

Sure, but none of that makes Vance "unelectable."

Yes, Trump has charisma that Vance lacks.  But a lot of people really didn't like a lot of the things Trump said -- about immigrants, about women, etc.  They bit their tongues and voted for him because he got the things they wanted done, and to a large degree because they are so conditioned by their families, pastors, etc, that they could never not vote for the R.  But part of them really didn't like doing it.

Those same people will vote for Vance much more easily.

I posted a sarcastic response because we're sitting here with a POTUS who's been accused of rape about 20 times, charged with felonies almost 100 times, convicted of some of them, been caught lying literally thousands of times, etc, but JD Vance is unelectable?

And if we're honest about it, the Fox News, Joe Rogan, etc machine can probably sell anybody to the horde at this point.  You think Republicans aren't going to show up because JD Vance is boring?  Nonsense.

Plus, Trump will make it a lot easier on the Republicans by dying well before 2028.  "They" will get to sell Vance as an incumbent, a continuation of the good times in a much more wholesome package.  Plus, they're going to cheat.  Unelectable??  Hell, it'll probably be a Dukakis or Mondale level ass whipping.

 



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