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The underlying power numbers look much better, though, suggesting he is due for some positive regression.

 I remembered him struggling a lot from the same eye ball test in 2015 too, so I looked it up. His avg and obp were both lower after 50 games than now, and he was only slugging .417. He went on to have a good year, even if not as good as 2016-17.

BUT all of the underlying metrics suggest the contact he’s making profiles like the last 2 years, not 2015. 

Hes obviously not hitting on all cylinders right now. But that’s clearly not unprecedented. The data suggests he’s also been really unlucky as far as his power numbers go.

He’s going to be fine not only because he’ll start putting together better at bats, but also because he should have been getting better results with the at bats he’s had. His luck will turn AND he’ll hit better to boot.

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If Hanley isn't claimed, would we be interested in him as a cheap DH?

10 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

The underlying power numbers look much better, though, suggesting he is due for some positive regression.

 I remembered him struggling a lot from the same eye ball test in 2015 too, so I looked it up. His avg and obp were both lower after 50 games than now, and he was only slugging .417. He went on to have a good year, even if not as good as 2016-17.

BUT all of the underlying metrics suggest the contact he’s making profiles like the last 2 years, not 2015. 

Hes obviously not hitting on all cylinders right now. But that’s clearly not unprecedented. The data suggests he’s also been really unlucky as far as his power numbers go.

He’s going to be fine not only because he’ll start putting together better at bats, but also because he should have been getting better results with the at bats he’s had. His luck will turn AND he’ll hit better to boot.

One thing that is concerning about Altuve is that while his average exit velocity on fly balls is about the same as 2016-2017, his barrel rate on fly balls is around half that from the previous two seasons.  

16 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

I was thinking about this today as well.
Buddy and I agreed 6-5 would be good especially since 7 games are on the road...except we’re better on the road.
So make it 7-4

I hope Keuchel decides to remove his head from his ass during this stretch of death.

It would behoove him to get the ground ball percentage up where it belongs.  According to fangraphs he's at 57% while a typical year is 62%.  May not sound like much difference but for a dude like him it is huge.

3 hours ago, Ldogg53 said:

Fuck.  This is beyond just being in a slump.  Something is clearly wrong with his approach and swing right now. 

When I think of players whom I would bet against, Altuve is pretty much dead last.  Bregman is similar.  While Gattis is not nearly as skilled, his background puts him on this list too.

Buncha fuckers on this squad with no quit in their blood.  That’s what makes them so freaking great to root for!!!

9 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I hope Keuchel decides to remove his head from his ass during this stretch of death.

It would behoove him to get the ground ball percentage up where it belongs.  According to fangraphs he's at 57% while a typical year is 62%.  May not sound like much difference but for a dude like him it is huge.

I don't have much faith that it's gonna happen.  His career is following the arc of the sinkerball pitcher.  I'm glad Luhnow was wise enough to fight the temptation of giving him a long term deal.

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16 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

I was thinking about this today as well.
Buddy and I agreed 6-5 would be good especially since 7 games are on the road...except we’re better on the road.
So make it 7-4

DK is not starting 4 of the 11 games...so no. 

1 hour ago, APMP said:

If Hanley isn't claimed, would we be interested in him as a cheap DH?

We should be. Considering his 6 HRs would be tied for 3rd on the team. His 26 RBIs would be 3rd on the team, and his paltry .708 OPS would be better than everyone not named Altuve, Correa, Springer, Bregman, Reddick, and Stassi.

Wow
The Red Sox must be running away with the best record in the majors if they are waiving a guy that would have those ranks on the defending world champs...

that bauer article, yeah.

when i read an article from someone else's point of view, other people's quotes about bauer, he comes off like a bitter nutcase.  but now, finally seeing things from his point of view, with his direct quotes, he comes off like a bitter nutcase.

not exactly sure what that all means, but i have a couple guesses.

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

that bauer article, yeah.

when i read an article from someone else's point of view, other people's quotes about bauer, he comes off like a bitter nutcase.  but now, finally seeing things from his point of view, with his direct quotes, he comes off like a bitter nutcase.

not exactly sure what that all means, but i have a couple guesses.

In typical hot dog fashion, Trevor relishes the role. 

oh, and i hope he makes the all-star game for the first time.

thinking verlander probably starts, but then what does the a.l. manager aj hinch do?  he looks at his roster, sees a bunch of his guys, and trevor bauer.  hmmm, who should i put in?

Asberger’s would make a lot of sense.

That article had too many gems to call out, but you guys are hitting on the same ones that struck me.



I think more on the spectrum of narcissistic personality disorder...
37 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

We should be. Considering his 6 HRs would be tied for 3rd on the team. His 26 RBIs would be 3rd on the team, and his paltry .708 OPS would be better than everyone not named Altuve, Correa, Springer, Bregman, Reddick, and Stassi.

I doubt it though. He can't really play anywhere defensively, so you can't really have both he and Gattis on the same roster. So we'd essentially have to get rid of Gattis to make room. Although that wouldn't be a bad option on the field, I don't think Hanley is superior enough to Gattis as a hitter (he's been below average this year and last) for the team to make that move. 

3 minutes ago, YChang said:

 

 


I think more on the spectrum of narcissistic personality disorder...

 

 

Maybe he's just an asshole.

16 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

oh, and i hope he makes the all-star game for the first time.

thinking verlander probably starts, but then what does the a.l. manager aj hinch do?  he looks at his roster, sees a bunch of his guys, and trevor bauer.  hmmm, who should i put in?

Trevor Bauer for 8 innings

also re:bauer, maybe i just skimmed the article, but there sure seemed to be a lack of team related goals, especially considering the indians are universally projected to be the 3 seed in the al.  maybe that's one of the reasons his teammates dislike him.

i guess we're spoiled, and obviously everyone's team goals were fulfilled last year (minus cole, rondon, smith), but you just rarely hear any type of chatter like that from our guys (although i know correa would like to win an mvp).  i get the feeling bauer would be moping around if he had a shitty game that turned into a 12-11 victory for his squad.  probably down in the clubhouse watching tape instead of high fiving his hitters.  

re:hanley - i'm reading it's largely based on the huge payment that kicks in if he reaches a certain amount of pa with the team, so i guess that makes some sense.  they're fine offensively and he's been slumping.  as far as us getting involved, it would surprise me if hinch went after someone that cora didn't fight to keep on his team (obviously those decisions are made higher up, but still).

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2 minutes ago, runthebone said:
Trevor Bauer for 8 innings

8 2/3

More like 9 official. I'm pulling JV to a standing ovation after the NL leadoff guy whiffs on the very first slider.

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 “I keep up with Cole, and I know that he’s killing it,’’ said Decker, 31, now a first baseman with Class AAA Reno in the D-backs organization. “I like him a lot. But I can’t tell you I know Bauer. I spoke with Bauer one time, and I said, 'I’ll never do that again. I’m good. I got my fill for a lifetime.'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/05/24/trevor-bauer-gerrit-cole-ucla-dont-like-each-other/640362002/

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2 hours ago, formermav43 said:

He’s going to be fine not only because he’ll start putting together better at bats, but also because he should have been getting better results with the at bats he’s had. His luck will turn AND he’ll hit better to boot.

He's also gonna be fine because he's Jose Motherfucking Altuve.  Hand wringing about 27 is way down on my priority list as an Astros fan.

Why stop at 8 or 9 for Bauer? Throw him out there for 10 and have him be the pitcher of record to start the 11th when the leadoff batter starts on 2nd.

 

Then put in Cole to throw one meat pitch that is pulled in the gap.

L charged to Bauer.

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Why stop at 8 or 9 for Bauer? Throw him out there for 10 and have him be the pitcher of record to start the 11th when the leadoff batter starts on 2nd.

 

Then put in Cole to throw one meat pitch that is pulled in the gap.

L charged to Bauer.

 

 

 

Good plan. And since Trevor enjoys being in the spotlight, let's have him warm up by pitching to every hitter in every round of the Home Run Derby. 

1 hour ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I doubt it though. He can't really play anywhere defensively, so you can't really have both he and Gattis on the same roster. So we'd essentially have to get rid of Gattis to make room. Although that wouldn't be a bad option on the field, I don't think Hanley is superior enough to Gattis as a hitter (he's been below average this year and last) for the team to make that move. 

Hanley is a much better hitter than Gattis. It's really not close.

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Shifting is not a panacea, and as BP’s own Russell A. Carleton wrote earlier this week, there are side effects that call into question the overall, big-picture efficacy. Specifically, while the shift does its intended job by taking away singles and doubles via smarter positioning, there’s evidence that it also leads to, among other negatives, pitchers throwing fewer strikes and issuing more walks. The end result is murky enough that perhaps one cancels out the other. Unless, of course, a team has figured out how to frequently shift and have their pitchers pound the strike zone with the shift on. And guess what? Houston appears to have figured it out.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/40132/banjo-hitter-best-defense-baseball/

"houston appears to have figured it out" is an enjoyable theme over the past several years, starting with draft slot allotment and international signing.

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

oh, and i hope he makes the all-star game for the first time.

thinking verlander probably starts, but then what does the a.l. manager aj hinch do?  he looks at his roster, sees a bunch of his guys, and trevor bauer.  hmmm, who should i put in?

Put the jackass in and make him pitch 7 innings.

Never mind, others are way ahead of me with even better destruction of that asshole’s future career.

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Hanley is a much better hitter than Gattis. It's really not close.

Actually, over the last 5 years, it’s very close.

That was subobtimal. At least Bregs got Kluber to show a lot of pitches.  

Base running is definitely not one of the Astros strengths. 

Kluber has some spin on the ball on the call tonight. Someone tell Tyler. 

Ran the pitch count up. Keeping it going up, and get into their bullpen. 

7 minutes ago, Limp Brisket said:

Nice play by Lindor.

No kidding. Just saw the replay.

Damn. Needed a better throw from Yuli there to have any chance at the DP.

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