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14 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Defense is better..... but they still suck on the back end.  Back 7 still can't cover.

Of course, still not good. But much better than before, which is better than horrific.

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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

that was weird. 

we didn't call a fair catch and Vegas never tried to catch the ball in the air.   Its like neither team knew what to do.

Vegas can’t catch it in the air right? Has to bounce first? And yeah Pickens could have called for a fair catch.

Edit: I remember a play from OKST a few years ago where our guy fair caught an onside kick because the kicker lofted it instead of bouncing it off the turf.  

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2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Vegas can’t catch it in the air right? Has to bounce first? And yeah Pickens could have called for a fair catch.

They could have, but they didn't look like they understood it...... Just has to go 10 yards.

But when Pickens waived for fair catch, then they have to allow Dallas to field it..... so in that instance, no.

 

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Just now, 'stache said:

Vegas can’t catch it in the air right? Has to bounce first? And yeah Pickens could have called for a fair catch.

oh. I figured that kicking team can always catch it in the air if they want as long as the receiving team doesn't call a fair catch.

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This is the play I remember. Fair catch call worked because the kicker lofted it instead of bouncing it off the turf. A free kick punt should work the same way.

Also announcers are morons. It wasn’t a high bounce” he kicked it high straight off the tee, no bounce off the turf.

 

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1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

They could have, but they didn't look like they understood it...... Just has to go 10 yards.

But when Pickens waived for fair catch, then they have to allow Dallas to field it..... so in that instance, no.

 

I missed Pickens raising his arm.  I guess that was a fair catch signal but it wasn't real obvious.

Posted
20 minutes ago, DougO said:

It's the shitass Raiders, but I'm liking what I see from the refurbished defense. 

Bland is playing much better, likely a large degree because what's going on in front of him.

Even Murray has made some nice plays, not having to read the run in the middle, but going after shit.

It's a shame they couldn't have had all these guys all season or they might have a couple more wins. 

Still some help to come with the young guys still working their way up to speed.

yeah injuries early this year, given the schedule was not good.  running into a buzzsaw after this game.

Posted
Just now, Asu2215 said:

What an effin pussy. Punch it in here. Do you think Cheaty Petey is taking a knee if the situation was reversed?

Petey gave nepo baby lil Schotty his big break.  He's not going to embarrass him.

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1 hour ago, ThatsGold said:

Dak spinning at a 79% completion rate with 4 TDs....so far

But he fumbled early and therefore sucks, especially compared to the great Sam Darnold who never turns it over lol.

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12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

But he fumbled early and therefore sucks, especially compared to the great Sam Darnold who never turns it over lol.

Dak tends to stat pad against bad teams. So let’s not get too carried away. 

Posted
1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Vegas can’t catch it in the air right? Has to bounce first? And yeah Pickens could have called for a fair catch.

Edit: I remember a play from OKST a few years ago where our guy fair caught an onside kick because the kicker lofted it instead of bouncing it off the turf.  

Of course they could’ve caught it. It went 10 yards. But it was high as shit, and they were waiting for Pickens or whomever to bobble the ball.  It was a weird poorly executed play  

Pickens did call for fair catch at the 38 where he fielded it off the hop and ran OOB at the 35. And they spotted it where he caught it, at the 38. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

But when Pickens waived for fair catch, then they have to allow Dallas to field it..... so in that instance, no.

 

You must be correct and because it was so high they backed off. If Pickens did that intentionally, smart play. 

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58 minutes ago, Tommy Shelby said:

Dak tends to stat pad against bad teams. So let’s not get too carried away. 

All QBs tend to stat pad against bad teams..... at least the good ones who are good enough to do so.  But if you want to get technical, Dak had the best QB day vs the Raiders all season.  That includes games against Maye, Herbert, Mahomes, and Nix.  So, let's not get too carried away with not getting too carried away.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Tommy Shelby said:

Dak tends to stat pad against bad teams. So let’s not get too carried away. 

he shines against bad teams and during garbage time of losses.  he’s useless.  when the pressure is on and the games matter his nuts retreat into his stomach and he starts laying eggs like the bitch that he is.  he is fucking trash. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

You must be correct and because it was so high they backed off. If Pickens did that intentionally, smart play. 

I don’t think there was anything smart about what he did.  That ball is live as soon as it hits the ground.
 He got really lucky the ball bounced his way, it could have gone in any direction and the Raiders played it soft.

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But he fumbled early and therefore sucks, especially compared to the great Sam Darnold who never turns it over lol.
Ahhhh yes good ol Sam Darnold. The guy who leads the league in turnovers since 2024 at 30. Now there's a guy you can count on in the big moments...lol
Posted
10 hours ago, DougO said:

And Pickens is a fuckin' beast. They have to pay the man. The WR combo is their offensive identity now. 

Need another complimentary running back that is a yardage threat. Not counting on Blue. 

I agree go the Bengals route!

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8 hours ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

You must be correct and because it was so high they backed off. If Pickens did that intentionally, smart play. 

And if  it had bounced backwards towards all of the raiders?

just catch the ball. It’s what he gets paid to do. 

Posted
8 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

All QBs tend to stat pad against bad teams..... at least the good ones who are good enough to do so.  But if you want to get technical, Dak had the best QB day vs the Raiders all season.  That includes games against Maye, Herbert, Mahomes, and Nix.  So, let's not get too carried away with not getting too carried away.

 

This is why it's so laughable to me how people act.  He "only shows up for games he wins and doesn't for games he doesn't"

But when he beats a good team, nothing is said...then the next time he struggles against a really good defense with a retooled OL and missing weapons it's back to "he always sucks against good teams" ignoring when he beats them.

 

Like He may beat the Eagles this week...but lose to the Cheifs the same idiots will say "he never shows up when it matters" when he just beat the best team in the NFC the game before or some shit. The double standard and narrative on him is obscene. 

And yes, why I wish he'd never have resigned here.  He'd get much more respect from a fan base who isn't too dumb to understand how hard it is to play QB in the most high profile position in all sports, while be sabotaged by the Front Office all the time(as everyone in here will agree) and even coaching at times.

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