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the real question in the movie will be,   what "destroys" the front of the Kursk?

 

are we gonna go with the complete bullshit Russian version of events that a NATO sub shot a torpedo at the Kursk and destroyed it....

or are we going with the most likely version of events, supported by hydrophone sonic signals that a torpedo in the bow of the ship suddenly went on a hot run, the crew couldnt stop it in time and it blew up in the sub?

 

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30 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the real question in the movie will be,   what "destroys" the front of the Kursk?

 

are we gonna go with the complete bullshit Russian version of events that a NATO sub shot a torpedo at the Kursk and destroyed it....

or are we going with the most likely version of events, supported by hydrophone sonic signals that a torpedo in the bow of the ship suddenly went on a hot run, the crew couldnt stop it in time and it blew up in the sub?

 

Umm pretty sure the trailer clearly shows the second one.

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1 hour ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the real question in the movie will be,   what "destroys" the front of the Kursk?

 

are we gonna go with the complete bullshit Russian version of events that a NATO sub shot a torpedo at the Kursk and destroyed it....

or are we going with the most likely version of events, supported by hydrophone sonic signals that a torpedo in the bow of the ship suddenly went on a hot run, the crew couldnt stop it in time and it blew up in the sub?

 

yellow-cake WMD

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the real question in the movie will be,   what "destroys" the front of the Kursk?
 
are we gonna go with the complete bullshit Russian version of events that a NATO sub shot a torpedo at the Kursk and destroyed it....
or are we going with the most likely version of events, supported by hydrophone sonic signals that a torpedo in the bow of the ship suddenly went on a hot run, the crew couldnt stop it in time and it blew up in the sub?
 


They took a dump without a plan
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On 9/11/2018 at 7:54 AM, AUS-97HORN said:

the real question in the movie will be,   what "destroys" the front of the Kursk?

 

are we gonna go with the complete bullshit Russian version of events that a NATO sub shot a torpedo at the Kursk and destroyed it....

or are we going with the most likely version of events, supported by hydrophone sonic signals that a torpedo in the bow of the ship suddenly went on a hot run, the crew couldnt stop it in time and it blew up in the sub?

 

From Wiki.  TL;DR version: Russian manufacturing was shitty and a test torpedo exploded. 

"On the first day of the exercise, Kursk successfully launched a Granit missile armed with a dummy warhead.[1] Two days later, on the morning of 12 August, Kursk prepared to fire dummy torpedoes at the Kirov-class battlecruiser Pyotr Velikiy (Peter The Great). These practice torpedoes had no explosive warheads and were manufactured and tested at a much lower quality standard.[11] On 12 August 2000, at 11:28 local time (07:28 UTC), there was an explosion while preparing to fire.[12] The Russian Navy's final report on the disaster concluded the explosion was due to the failure of one of Kursk's hydrogen peroxide-fueled Type 65 torpedoes.[13] A subsequent investigation concluded that HTP, a form of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide used as propellant for the torpedo, seeped through a faulty weld in the torpedo casing.[14] When HTP comes in contact with a catalyst, it rapidly expands by a factor of 5000, generating vast quantities of steam and oxygen. The pressure produced by the expanding HTP ruptured the kerosene fuel tank in the torpedo and set off an explosion equal to 100–250 kilograms (220–550 lb) of TNT. The submarine sank in relatively shallow water, bottoming at 108 metres (354 ft) about 135 km (84 mi) off Severomorsk, at 69°40′N 37°35′E. A second explosion 135 seconds after the initial event was equivalent to 3-7 tons of TNT.[15] The explosions blew a large hole in the hull and collapsed the first three compartments of the sub, killing or incapacitating all but 23 of the 118 personnel on board."

 

Alternative explanation

Vice-Admiral Valery Ryazantsev differed with the government's official conclusion. He cited inadequate training, poor maintenance, and incomplete inspections that caused the crew to mishandle the weapon.[32] During the examination of the wrecked sub, investigators recovered a partially burned copy of the safety instructions for loading HTP torpedoes, but the instructions were for a significantly different type of torpedo and failed to include essential steps for testing an air valve. The 7th Division, 1st Submarine Flotilla never inspected Kursk's crew's qualifications and readiness to fire HTP torpedoes.[26] Kursk's crew had no prior experience with HTP-powered torpedoes and had not been trained in handling or firing HTP-powered torpedoes. Due to their inexperience and lack of training, compounded by incomplete inspections and oversight, and because the Kursk's crew followed faulty instructions when loading the practice torpedo, Ryazantsev believes they set off a chain of events that led to the explosion.[2][33]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Kursk_(K-141)#Explosion

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On 9/11/2018 at 3:26 PM, AtticusFinch said:

What a shit detail of being assigned submarine duty in Russia.   

The lines for beets are shorter.

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