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1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

sheesh, you are acting like there is only a choice of ND/OSU/Miami or Texas school for the deaf.   there is a wide chasm between those, like say Louisville or ASU/Arizona or Colorado(for all the Deion lovers) or Michigan State.

Correct, as much as I want marquee match ups, I think the signal from the committee is to go out and schedule fun vacations for us rather than great helmets. Let's have a yearly away game at Hawaii and then perhaps a rotating travel schedule to Seattle, Portland (via Corvallis), and NOLA. Perhaps we try to convince Alaska Fairbanks to move up to DI FBS?

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2 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Yea, especially if tOSU finds out losing to a top ranked OOC team in a true road game fashion means nothing vs playing pud state. 

 

not cool 

Ohio State missed the 4 team playoff in 2017 and 2021 because they lost OOC games to Oklahoma and Oregon respectively. Both of those Ohio State teams were better than this Texas team and would have had an actual chance of winning the CFP. After 2021, Day fired his entire defensive staff sans Larry Johnson, then brought in Knowles and the rest of the position coaches that have been the backbone of their elite defenses to this day.

Sark has to politic for his team in the present moment. But if the actual takeaway from this season is to try to finesse the schedule like a TCU-caliber program trying to earn national recognition, then you should just give up any aspiration of competing with Georgia or Ohio State right now. 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Tribe171 said:

Ohio State missed the 4 team playoff in 2017 and 2021 because they lost OOC games to Oklahoma and Oregon respectively. Both of those Ohio State teams were better than this Texas team and would have had an actual chance of winning the CFP. After 2021, Day fired his entire defensive staff sans Larry Johnson, then brought in Knowles and the rest of the position coaches that have been the backbone of their elite defenses to this day.

Sark has to politic for his team in the present moment. But if the actual takeaway from this season is to try to finesse the schedule like a TCU-caliber program trying to earn national recognition, then you should just give up any aspiration of competing with Georgia or Ohio State right now. 

Compare Texas and OSU's conference schedules. OSU can do whatever they want, but don't act like it's apples to apples.

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

We kind of signed up for this, having dumb losses against teams like Florida. Struggling to beat Kentucky and Mississippi State. This is the grind we signed up for. 

Conference scheduling is too unbalanced.  We are 3-1 against the top 7 in conference.. Aggie is 0-1 and are going to host a playoff game against a G5 or hapless ACC team.  4 of their opponents went 3-32 combined.  They beat 0-8 pig by 3 and 1-7 SC by 1.  

UT 3-1, UGA 2-1, Bama 2-1, UM 1-1, OU 1-2, Vandy 0-2, Aggie 0-1

There’s no incentive to play good OOC teams. I guess go towards the NFL model where those games can be fun and can compare relative conference strength, but are irrelevant for a playoff bid.

 

 

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Fine, you've convinced me, let's tuck our tails between our legs, try to get out of those big OOC games and look like fucking cowards.

Because that's exactly what aggy would do.

How’s it tucking your tail when the conference schedule we play is significantly more difficult? Like someone said why wouldn’t you play the numbers and percentage game? You will end up playing tough games IN THE PLAYOFF regardless. 

4 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Fuck the pussy shit, this team wasn’t winning a national championship this year anyway.  I’d much rather go see Texas play at ND or Ohio State than a home game in August vs utep El Paso or whatever.  Just don’t lose to Florida..,  it’s not that difficult to figure out. 

So you’re okay with not competing for national titles for the sake of a game in September when you could end up playing the exact two teams you mentioned in the playoffs or a similar caliber team at home IN THE PLAYOFFS?

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Final SEC Standings with conference tie-breakers applied:

1. Alabama (7 - 1) (32-32) minus own impact (31-25)

Above Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5).

2. Georgia (7 - 1) (30-34) minus own impact (29-27)

With Ole Miss and Texas A&M, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4688).

Above Ole Miss and Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4688).

3. Ole Miss (7 - 1) (22-42) minus own impact (21-35)

With Georgia and Texas A&M, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

With Texas A&M, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

Above Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

4. Texas A&M (7 - 1) (20-44) minus own impact (19-37)

With Georgia and Ole Miss, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

With Ole Miss, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

Below Ole Miss based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

5. Texas (6 - 2) .4844 (31-33) minus own impact (29-27)

Above Oklahoma and Vandy based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (2-0).

6. Oklahoma (6 - 2)  .5156 (33-31) minus own impact (31-25)

With Vandy, below Texas based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).

Above Vandy based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (6-1).

7. Vandy (6 - 2) .4375 (28-36) minus own impact (26-30)

With Oklahoma, below Texas based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).

Below Oklahoma based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (5-2).

8. Tennessee (4 - 4)  (31-33) minus own impact (27-29)

Above Missouri based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4844).

9. Missouri (4 - 4) (29-35) minus own impact (25-31)

Below Tennessee based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4531).

10. LSU (3 - 5) (36-28) minus own impact (31-25) 

11. Kentucky (2 - 6) (34-30) minus own impact (28-28) 

Above Florida based on head-to-head record (1-0).

12. Florida (2 - 6) opponents .578 (37-27) minus own impact (31-25) 

Below Kentucky based on head-to-head record (0-1).

13. S Carolina (1 - 7) opponents (42-22) minus own impact (35-21)

Above Auburn and Miss St based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6563).

14. Auburn (1 - 7) opponents (39-25) minus own impact (32-24) 

With Miss St, below S Carolina based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6094).

Above Miss St based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6094).

15. Miss St (1 - 7) opponents (37-27) minus own impact (30-26) 

With Auburn, below S Carolina based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5781).

Below Auburn based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5781).

16. Arkansas (0 - 😎 opponents total .5156 (33-31) minus own impact (25-31)

 Schedule was Ole Miss (7-1), Tenn (4-4), A&M (7-1), Auburn (1-7), Miss State (1-7), LSU (3-5), Texas (6-2), Missouri (4-4)

 

So cumulative SEC schedule strength, excluding the impact of your direct results against the other teams is below.

 

Negating your own impact toughest SEC conference schedules

1. South Carolina (35 other conference wins)

2. Auburn (32 other conference wins) 

3-Tie. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida (31 other wins) 

7. Mississippi State (30 other wins)

8.TIE Georgia and Texas (29 other wins) 

10. Kentucky (28 other wins) 

11. Tennessee (27 other wins)

12. Vanderbilt (26 other wins) 

13-TIE. Missouri and Arkansas (25 other wins) 

15. Ole Miss (21 other wins) 

16. Texas A&M (19 other wins) 

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Posted (edited)

 

2 hours ago, Jimbob said:

Conference scheduling is too unbalanced.  We are 3-1 against the top 7 in conference.. Aggie is 0-1 and are going to host a playoff game against a G5 or hapless ACC team.  4 of their opponents went 3-32 combined.  They beat 0-8 pig by 3 and 1-7 SC by 1.  

UT 3-1, UGA 2-1, Bama 2-1, UM 1-1, OU 1-2, Vandy 0-2, Aggie 0-1

 

This is the bottom line problem. Without divisions, these super conferences are just crapshoots and conferences standings are totally meaningless. There should be 8 to 10 team true divisions where every team plays every team… funny, sounds an awful lot like the conferences used to be.

and you see it in excruciating detail in the post above mine. Good lord

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Posted (edited)

To restate. It's clear that the unbalanced schedules in these massive conferences is not sustainable, and the ultimate cause of all this mess. 

Which is why you can do two things:

1. make super conferences have divisions again where each division plays true round-robin schedule

and

2. Award auto-bids to winners (or top two) after full division play and/or tiebreakers. 

If you insist on having a plus one (conference championship game), you can take "wild-cards" of divisions to play cross divisionally to determine final spots. 

It's clear that the Aggies and Ole Miss benefitted from their draw massively this year. Same as it is clear that South Carolina (by a wide margin) and Auburn were jobbed by difficult draws. 

28-28 would be .500, in this distribution the Texas and Georgia draw .5179 (29-27) is the median this year. 

So, Aggies had a schedule strength in SEC play of .3393. Much, much lower than the MEDIAN. 

And South Carolina was handed a .6250. 

So while you would often have imbalances in relative strength of one 8 or 6 team division vs another, and therefore the alternating draw with other division teams could result in some imbalances it couldn't end up with this insane variance. 

South Carolina played a schedule that was 6 wins better than the median, and almost double the wins than the Aggies, 17 games better out of 56. 

Negating your own impact toughest SEC conference schedules (56 game records of 8 conference opponents remaining not you games) 

1. South Carolina (35 other conference wins)

2. Auburn (32 other conference wins) 

3-Tie. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida (31 other wins) 

7. Mississippi State (30 other wins)

8.TIE Georgia and Texas (29 other wins) 

10. Kentucky (28 other wins) 

11. Tennessee (27 other wins)

12. Vanderbilt (26 other wins) 

13-TIE. Missouri and Arkansas (25 other wins) 

15. Ole Miss (21 other wins) 

16. Texas A&M (19 other wins) 

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7 hours ago, Captain Obvious said:

Dumb question amnesty, what exactly is expected when the committee says you "won't be punished" for scheduling a tough OOC game that results in a loss?  It seems like people are asking to completely disregard the loss and treat it as if Texas only has two losses, and then compare them against other 2-loss teams, in some cases where they have H2H result.  Asking to go that route seems like an unrealistic expectation.

That’s literally what the statement “you won’t be punished for scheduling a tough OOC loss” means.

But the committee lied. They’re not consistent at all. And it’s going to result in worse scheduling. 

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7 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Any scenario for the CCG of teams losing in those games and Texas jumps them? Bama? BYU? 

Yes if they both get boat raced and/or suffered a significant (namely QB) injury, then you could jump them. 

 

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21 minutes ago, TheYoungHorn said:

To restate. It's clear that the unbalanced schedules in these massive conferences is not sustainable, and the ultimate cause of all this mess. 

Which is why you can do two things:

1. make super conferences have divisions again where each division plays true round-robin schedule

and

2. Award auto-bids to winners (or top two) after full division play and/or tiebreakers. 

If you insist on having a plus one (conference championship game), you can take "wild-cards" of divisions to play cross divisionally to determine final spots. 

It's clear that the Aggies and Ole Miss benefitted from their draw massively this year. Same as it is clear that South Carolina (by a wide margin) and Auburn were jobbed by difficult draws. 

28-28 would be .500, in this distribution the Texas and Georgia draw .5179 (29-27) is the median this year. 

So, Aggies had a schedule strength in SEC play of .3393. Much, much lower than the MEDIAN. 

And South Carolina was handed a .6250. 

So while you would often have imbalances in relative strength of one 8 or 6 team division vs another, and therefore the alternating draw with other division teams could result in some imbalances it couldn't end up with this insane variance. 

South Carolina played a schedule that was 6 wins better than the median, and almost double the wins than the Aggies, 17 games better out of 56. 

Negating your own impact toughest SEC conference schedules (56 game records of 8 conference opponents remaining not you games) 

1. South Carolina (35 other conference wins)

2. Auburn (32 other conference wins) 

3-Tie. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida (31 other wins) 

7. Mississippi State (30 other wins)

8.TIE Georgia and Texas (29 other wins) 

10. Kentucky (28 other wins) 

11. Tennessee (27 other wins)

12. Vanderbilt (26 other wins) 

13-TIE. Missouri and Arkansas (25 other wins) 

15. Ole Miss (21 other wins) 

16. Texas A&M (19 other wins) 

Then you have to compete against teams from conferences that absolutely suck. In the Big 10 Ohio State didnt even play Indiana or Oregon, the only teams in their conference above mediocre besides them. TTU gets to play a soft as charmin big 12 schedule. The ACC is a bunch of crap teams. 

It's already completely unbalanced, so why stack the deck further against yourself by scheduling one of the other title contenders in non conference where losing hurts you just as bad as losing a conference game does?

25 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Any scenario for the CCG of teams losing in those games and Texas jumps them? Bama? BYU? 

We'll see, but the committee said losing a conference title game wont be counted against you. Yet winning one gets an auto bid. So basically the CCG is nothing to lose, everything to gain. 

 

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Maybe we go to nfl style scheduling?   I love early marquee games but I love the playoffs more.  We don’t have to schedule Maine or the citadel but maybe a team like Rutgers or Minnesota?

 

not all conferences are created equal.   That being said I would be pissed if i were a bama or ou fan and got jumped by three loss texas

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11 minutes ago, TheYoungHorn said:

To state it one more time, a slightly different way. 

Aggies cumulative average SEC opponent had a (2.5-5.5) record

South Carolina's (5.25-2.75), almost the inverse. 

 

Or yet another way, their only loss in conference was to a team with 6 conference wins. That means the teams they beat in conference had a combined 13 conference wins. For 7 teams. 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Tribe171 said:

Ohio State missed the 4 team playoff in 2017 and 2021 because they lost OOC games to Oklahoma and Oregon respectively. Both of those Ohio State teams were better than this Texas team and would have had an actual chance of winning the CFP. After 2021, Day fired his entire defensive staff sans Larry Johnson, then brought in Knowles and the rest of the position coaches that have been the backbone of their elite defenses to this day.

Sark has to politic for his team in the present moment. But if the actual takeaway from this season is to try to finesse the schedule like a TCU-caliber program trying to earn national recognition, then you should just give up any aspiration of competing with Georgia or Ohio State right now. 

Except that OSU effectively plays a 2 game season every year. A Big Ten schedule simply isn't comparable to an SEC schedule. 

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Then you have to compete against teams from conferences that absolutely suck. In the Big 10 Ohio State didnt even play Indiana or Oregon, the only teams in their conference above mediocre besides them. TTU gets to play a soft as charmin big 12 schedule. The ACC is a bunch of crap teams. 

It's already completely unbalanced, so why stack the deck further against yourself by scheduling one of the other title contenders in non conference where losing hurts you just as bad as losing a conference game does?

We'll see, but the committee said losing a conference title game wont be counted against you. Yet winning one gets an auto bid. So basically the CCG is nothing to lose, everything to gain. 

 

I said the solution for the whole thing, not just for SEC. 

If there was 64 teams in 8, 8 team "divisions" and you win your division you are in. If you are part of a "stronger" division or pair of "divisions" maybe your contract already awarded you more spots. This of course would be in a theoretical 64-team super league that doesn't look any closer to appearing than it did 14 years ago. 

Under the current system, say up to 16 teams where Big 10 and SEC agree on 4 autobids each, with 1 G6, 1 Big 12, 1 ACC. 

That leaves only 5 at-large, and often Notre Dame is going to take 1 of those. So really only 4. If the compromise is Big 12-ACC get one floater between them, then there are only 3 wild cards for Big 10/SEC each year. 

So this year you could see SEC get 7, Big 10 only get their 4 and the rest fall the way they would. 

SEC: Georgia, Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M, OU, Vandy, Texas 

Big 10: Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Michigan?

G6: American Winner

Notre Dame

ACC Winner and Miami if Texas Tech wins

Big 12 Winner: Texas Tech or if Tech loses 

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3 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Maybe we go to nfl style scheduling?   I love early marquee games but I love the playoffs more.  We don’t have to schedule Maine or the citadel but maybe a team like Rutgers or Minnesota?

 

not all conferences are created equal.   That being said I would be pissed if i were a bama or ou fan and got jumped by three loss texas

Especially Alabama who also had a loss OOC to a terrible Florida St team. So you would have to throw out their loss if you throw out our loss. Which makes them a 1 loss team. There's no good way to put us in without screwing over another team with a better record. The committee isn't going to do that unless that team has an injured QB. Even if that team beat no one all season and we beat 3 top 10 teams and lost to the #1 and #3 teams in the final standings. 

Only real way to do NFL scheduling is to take ths top 32 programs in the country, break it off into a separate level of college football, create 2 conferences and 8 divisions of 4 teams. So basically it becomes NFL Lite. 

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4 minutes ago, TheYoungHorn said:

I said the solution for the whole thing, not just for SEC. 

If there was 64 teams in 8, 8 team "divisions" and you win your division you are in. If you are part of a "stronger" division or pair of "divisions" maybe your contract already awarded you more spots. This of course would be in a theoretical 64-team super league that doesn't look any closer to appearing than it did 14 years ago. 

Under the current system, say up to 16 teams where Big 10 and SEC agree on 4 autobids each, with 1 G6, 1 Big 12, 1 ACC. 

That leaves only 5 at-large, and often Notre Dame is going to take 1 of those. So really only 4. If the compromise is Big 12-ACC get one floater between them, then there are only 3 wild cards for Big 10/SEC each year. 

So this year you could see SEC get 7, Big 10 only get their 4 and the rest fall the way they would. 

SEC: Georgia, Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M, OU, Vandy, Texas 

Big 10: Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Michigan?

G6: American Winner

Notre Dame

ACC Winner and Miami if Texas Tech wins

Big 12 Winner: Texas Tech or if Tech loses 

Would have to go to a 16 team playoff and still doesnt fix the unbalanced nature of the conferences. Michigan's best win all year might be Nebraska. They also didnt play Indiana or Oregon just like OSU. They got blown out by USC. They don't deserve any mention of a playoff spot. 

There's no way this gets fixed any time soon if ever. The conferences are going to be wildly unbalanced. That's why it makes no sense for an SEC team to schedule a difficult OOC game because the SEC schedule is mostly brutal compared to any other conference's schedule. 

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30 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Or yet another way, their only loss in conference was to a team with 6 conference wins. That means the teams they beat in conference had a combined 13 conference wins. For 7 teams. 

 

I actually did some math wrong, that number should only be 17 wins out of 56 games. 

So they beat teams with a combined 12 wins in the SEC. 

South Carolina, Auburn and Miss State all one each. (3 total)

Florida (2)

LSU (3)

Missouri (4) 

This is just like the 2020 season. Aggies beat no one, but don't drop their typical bone-headed games, and end up with "best season ever" status. 

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1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

Would have to go to a 16 team playoff and still doesnt fix the unbalanced nature of the conferences. Michigan's best win all year might be Nebraska. They also didnt play Indiana or Oregon just like OSU. They got blown out by USC. They don't deserve any mention of a playoff spot. 

There's no way this gets fixed any time soon if ever. The conferences are going to be wildly unbalanced. That's why it makes no sense for an SEC team to schedule a difficult OOC game because the SEC schedule is mostly brutal compared to any other conference's schedule. 

Would still be better to not schedule a marquee OOC matchup in 16 format. You’d want to position yourself for the opening round home game. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

Would have to go to a 16 team playoff and still doesnt fix the unbalanced nature of the conferences. Michigan's best win all year might be Nebraska. They also didnt play Indiana or Oregon just like OSU. They got blown out by USC. They don't deserve any mention of a playoff spot. 

There's no way this gets fixed any time soon if ever. The conferences are going to be wildly unbalanced. That's why it makes no sense for an SEC team to schedule a difficult OOC game because the SEC schedule is mostly brutal compared to any other conference's schedule. 

Yeah, but what I just posted is as close as you are going to get, at least for this years mess. 

I would have to go back last year to see. 

In this case your only real arguments would be Michigan vs. Utah/BYU or Virginia if they lost to Duke. 

Posted (edited)

Since I can't edit. 

Here is the corrected numbers (at least until I find another mistake)

1. Alabama (7 - 1) (32-32) minus own impact (31-25)

Above Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5).

2. Georgia (7 - 1) (30-34) minus own impact (29-27)

With Ole Miss and Texas A&M, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4688).

Above Ole Miss and Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4688).

3. Ole Miss (7 - 1) (22-42) minus own impact (21-35)

With Georgia and Texas A&M, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

With Texas A&M, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

Above Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

4. Texas A&M (7 - 1) (18-46) minus own impact (17-39)

With Georgia and Ole Miss, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

With Ole Miss, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

Below Ole Miss based on conference opponent win percentage (0.2813).

5. Texas (6 - 2) .4844 (31-33) minus own impact (29-27)

Above Oklahoma and Vandy based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (2-0).

6. Oklahoma (6 - 2)  .5156 (33-31) minus own impact (31-25)

With Vandy, below Texas based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).

Above Vandy based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (6-1).

7. Vandy (6 - 2) .4375 (28-36) minus own impact (26-30)

With Oklahoma, below Texas based on round-robin record (not a full round-robin) due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).

Below Oklahoma based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (5-2).

8. Tennessee (4 - 4)  (31-33) minus own impact (27-29)

Above Missouri based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4844).

9. Missouri (4 - 4) (29-35) minus own impact (25-31)

Below Tennessee based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4531).

10. LSU (3 - 5) (36-28) minus own impact (31-25) 

11. Kentucky (2 - 6) (34-30) minus own impact (28-28) 

Above Florida based on head-to-head record (1-0).

12. Florida (2 - 6) opponents .578 (37-27) minus own impact (31-25) 

Below Kentucky based on head-to-head record (0-1).

13. S Carolina (1 - 7) opponents (42-22) minus own impact (35-21)

Above Auburn and Miss St based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6563).

14. Auburn (1 - 7) opponents (39-25) minus own impact (32-24) 

With Miss St, below S Carolina based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6094).

Above Miss St based on conference opponent win percentage (0.6094).

15. Miss St (1 - 7) opponents (37-27) minus own impact (30-26) 

With Auburn, below S Carolina based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5781).

Below Auburn based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5781).

16. Arkansas (0 - 😎 opponents total .5156 (33-31) minus own impact (25-31)

 Schedule was Ole Miss (7-1), Tenn (4-4), A&M (7-1), Auburn (1-7), Miss State (1-7), LSU (3-5), Texas (6-2), Missouri (4-4)

Negating your own impact toughest SEC conference schedules

 

1. South Carolina (35 other conference wins)

2. Auburn (32 other conference wins) 

3-Tie. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida (31 other wins) 

7. Mississippi State (30 other wins)

8.TIE Georgia and Texas (29 other wins) 

10. Kentucky (28 other wins) 

11. Tennessee (27 other wins)

12. Vanderbilt (26 other wins) 

13-TIE. Missouri and Arkansas (25 other wins) 

15. Ole Miss (21 other wins) 

16. Texas A&M (17 other wins) 

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Posted
7 hours ago, GTJ1982 said:

Also let’s not pretend we would have automatically beat another team in that first game with the way we’ve played this season.  

^^^^

First half-of-the-season Texas struggled against 2-10 UTEP, lost to 4-8 Florida, looked generally incompetent against 5-7 Kentucky, and needed a miracle rally against 5-7 Mississippi State. A different P4 OOC matchup would not have been an auto-win! Not even close!

And replacing Ohio State with Rice or something just exposes us as giant hypocrites because every SEC team played at least one P4 OOC team this year (Wazzu was a last-second fill in for Ole Miss after Wake Forest was canceled). You can be damn sure the committee would penalize us for being the only SEC team to not play a P4 OOC.

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Posted
7 hours ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bama took care of enough of their business to where they aren’t begging to get in. They earned it. We didn’t do enough. Cry more. 

Cry more? Are you 12? 

I know there are idiots on this board, but I didn't know I was responding to someone who needs their parents permission to use the internet.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So you’re okay with not competing for national titles for the sake of a game in September when you could end up playing the exact two teams you mentioned in the playoffs or a similar caliber team at home IN THE PLAYOFFS?

No, I'm not ok with it.  We need to build a team good enough for both.  I'm not ok with ducking hard ooc games to just lose a road playoff game before Christmas.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, satyanash said:

^^^^

First half-of-the-season Texas struggled against 2-10 UTEP, lost to 4-8 Florida, looked generally incompetent against 5-7 Kentucky, and needed a miracle rally against 5-7 Mississippi State. A different P4 OOC matchup would not have been an auto-win! Not even close!

And replacing Ohio State with Rice or something just exposes us as giant hypocrites because every SEC team played at least one P4 OOC team this year (Wazzu was a last-second fill in for Ole Miss after Wake Forest was canceled). You can be damn sure the committee would penalize us for being the only SEC team to not play a P4 OOC.

Look at who BYU, Tech, Oregon, and Utah played OOC. No one gives a shit who you play OOC, just what the number in the loss column. A 10-2 Texas with wins against 3 team in the playoff hunt is 100% in even if they played Monterrey Tech. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, satyanash said:

^^^^

First half-of-the-season Texas struggled against 2-10 UTEP, lost to 4-8 Florida, looked generally incompetent against 5-7 Kentucky, and needed a miracle rally against 5-7 Mississippi State. A different P4 OOC matchup would not have been an auto-win! Not even close!

And replacing Ohio State with Rice or something just exposes us as giant hypocrites because every SEC team played at least one P4 OOC team this year (Wazzu was a last-second fill in for Ole Miss after Wake Forest was canceled). You can be damn sure the committee would penalize us for being the only SEC team to not play a P4 OOC.

Then just cancel all the big marquee OOC games after next season and replace them with OK state, rutgers, Purdue, or Boston college. It’ll be P4 and a layup game and the committee has made it clear they only care about the number of losses you have so we should remove any hard OOC games from here on out to fall in line with their decisions. Need to show them their decisions here have ramifications that are a net negative to the sport. Sucks to lose good OOC games but this is their doing, not ours. Can’t continue to be champions/martyrs for a lost cause that only hurts us. 

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Yeah, we aren’t gonna be in. No one ahead of us that we needed to lose lost. So, I think we will be matched up with the next best team that doesn’t make it. Texas v Michigan maybe? USC? Not Vandy again.

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19 minutes ago, WBT said:

No, I'm not ok with it.  We need to build a team good enough for both.  I'm not ok with ducking hard ooc games to just lose a road playoff game before Christmas.

Let's look at Georgia's OOC schedule...

Marshall

App St

Charlotte

Georgia Tech

Are they going to be losing a road playoff game before Christmas?

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4 minutes ago, Dignan said:

Yeah, we aren’t gonna be in. No one ahead of us that we needed to lose lost. So, I think we will be matched up with the next best team that doesn’t make it. Texas v Michigan maybe? USC? Not Vandy again.

Gonna be honest. In this era of NIL, portal, and playoffs this does nothing for me. I doubt I'll watch more than a quarter of it if any at all. 

It's just a new era. If you arent in the playoffs you're irrelevant. Some NIT like consolation prize game just isn't important enough for my time with all I have going on. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

That’s literally what the statement “you won’t be punished for scheduling a tough OOC loss” means.

But the committee lied. They’re not consistent at all. And it’s going to result in worse scheduling. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/11/13/cfp-selection-committee-members-college-football-playoff/87251133007/

 

Take a look at the committee and their resumes.   

Do we see ANY member(s) on here that based on their biography would be an advocate for our situation?

I see ALOT of Big 12 connections along with Big 10.     Remarkable is the lack of SEC representation.    Which is surprising considering the way the rest of the college football world condemns the SEC for putting their thumbs on the scale.  

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18 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Texas does not need to have a schedule harder than our peers if we are not rewarded for it. We need to play the same game everyone else is. 

But we are Texas.

we don’t do that. We have stubbornly refused to do that for decades. From systemic cheating to basket weaving degrees to scheduling tough OOC games.

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