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We need to be patient with Sark. I would give him at least ten years to build the program. It's simply impossible to step in and immediately have success. No coach could possibly turn around a program in year two.

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Just now, irishtexan said:

Who pays the other half? Whose books is it on?

In the example of texas tech that guy Cody Campbell foots the bill, Oregon it’s Nike. Being allowed to spend up to $22 million doesn’t mean every school has $22 million to spend also. Arch for instance doesn’t take any Texas money, allegedly, which frees up money for the rest of the roster. Nobody else has a player that polarizing and that humble, nobody. We should have gotten a rb and a stud LB or OL with arch’s share of NIL.

Can we get a flag on this thread when there is actual roster news as opposed to being the 17th thread dedicated to bitching about Sark?

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Revshare is capped, NIL collectives are uncapped. There is no way "around the cap" you just donate the money to the other org. One comes from the AD one comes from the collective.

 

it was 40M+ and yeah - it's fucked up and a situation that Texas should never be in. Losing 3 games with 2 other games that went to OT against dogshit teams is not acceptable as an outcome. People got fired, players are gonna get shuffled around, but save me with the "lol next year seven win steve can go 7-5 and not get fired" horse shit.

No one is being unreasonable with the expectation being playoff berths with 12 fucking teams. This year they were a bubble team and arguably should have been in if it wasn't for stupid auto-bid rules so you get a little bit of a pass. Next season Texas cannot have more than 2 losses and expect a playoff berth, no team should unless everyone has lost more than 2 games (definitely more 2 loss teams possible with 9 game SEC schedule). This year wasn't good, they achieved none of the goals from pre-season and if they don't win the bowl they won't even have double digits in the win column. It would be a complete failure (by measures of success) of a football season for Texas and it honestly may as well have been fucking 7-5. It sure as fuck felt like 7-5 with the god damned OT wins needed. No 1k rusher, Manning looked like dogshit 3/4 of the season, OL played like a bunch of sissies for the majority of the season, Defense played great except when the playcalls were softer than fuck and people abused the bend but don't break scheme and that got the dude fired.

2025 was not a good season, it wasn't a building season, it was a shit season lost to history with nothing to fucking remember and no one winning shit, I mean no one literally won any hardware of any significance. 4 All Americans and that's it.

2026 cannot look, feel, start, end, or be like in any way shape or form 2025 which was a dogshit fucking season outside of beating ou, piggy and aggy

I’m quoting this because you are a guy who actually knows some money details. I was just giving my opinion but you brings some facts which helps people on here. The resources Texas has in the NIL era means any numb nuts should go 10-2 a lot, like almost every year as the floor. We have wanted to pay players my whole life haha. We can pay them now and somehow we started the year with a putrid OL and no rb’s. Unbelievable

3 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Can we get a flag on this thread when there is actual roster news as opposed to being the 17th thread dedicated to bitching about Sark?

It must be miserable to be you?

2 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Can we get a flag on this thread when there is actual roster news as opposed to being the 17th thread dedicated to bitching about Sark?

Good idea.

I would love to hear the “fire Sark” idiots explain who they think we could hire that would be better.

I also think it's crazy to just forgive sark for everything because he beat a now exposed dogshit aggy like it was something that was redeeming.

The win is great, but a real killer instinct coach knows you are on the bubble and destroying them and consuming their soul on national TV gets you a real shot into the playoffs.

Just now, immamac said:

I also think it's crazy to just forgive sark for everything because he beat a now exposed dogshit aggy like it was something that was redeeming.

The win is great, but a real killer instinct coach knows you are on the bubble and destroying them and consuming their soul on national TV gets you a real shot into the playoffs.

We could have beaten them by 50 and we were still not making the playoffs.

9 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

We need to be patient with Sark. I would give him at least ten years to build the program. It's simply impossible to step in and immediately have success. No coach could possibly turn around a program in year two.

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^^^^Still hasn't gotten as far as Sark^^^^

Just now, David Dennison said:

^^^^Still hasn't gotten as far as Sark^^^^

Further. Undefeated top seed in the playoffs having beat Ohio State the reigning champs. Something Sark hasn't done and I bet they beat georgia too. Something else sark hasn't done. Wait till the season is over before you talk shit about a guy who in year 2 has more hardware in an arguably stronger conference than Texas.

1 minute ago, immamac said:

Further. Undefeated top seed in the playoffs having beat Ohio State the reigning champs. Something Sark hasn't done and I bet they beat georgia too. Something else sark hasn't done. Wait till the season is over before you talk shit about a guy who in year 2 has more hardware in an arguably stronger conference than Texas.

Nope. Hasn't reached the semis. Sorry.

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We could have beaten them by 50 and we were still not making the playoffs.

Probably. But if we would have beat a few more teams by 50 instead of going to overtime against fucking Kentucky, then our argument would have been a helluva lot stronger this year, even with three losses.

Sark can bitch about Miami throwing the ball up 28 in the 4th quarter, but Miami's still playing meaningful football and we're not.

Sark may not like it, but style matters. Margin of victory matters. It may not be meaningful. But as long as humans are selecting the participants, that shit will mean more than people admit. And Sark's gonna have to start playing that game.

16 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

It must be miserable to be you?

Ooh, really zinged me on that one.

🙄

2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Probably. But if we would have beat a few more teams by 50 instead of going to overtime against fucking Kentucky, then our argument would have been a helluva lot stronger this year, even with three losses.

Sark can bitch about Miami throwing the ball up 28 in the 4th quarter, but Miami's still playing meaningful football and we're not.

Sark may not like it, but style matters. Margin of victory matters. It may not be meaningful. But as long as humans are selecting the participants, that shit will mean more than people admit. And Sark's gonna have to start playing that game.

Three Ls matters a whole lot more.

1 minute ago, TrashMaster G said:

Ooh, really zinged me on that one.

🙄

I put a question mark lol. It was more of a you’re bitchin about something you can’t control, I was bitchin about something I cant…ah never mind.

32 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

6 losses, 4 losses, 5 losses, 1 top 10 finish, 0 conference championships, 0 playoff appearances.

7 losses, 5 losses, 2 losses, 1 top 4 finish, 1 conference championship, 1 playoff appearance

When either coach took over from their predecessor, expecting to play in the national championship game in Year 2 a la Kirby and Day is ridiculously unrealistic.

Granted, I would've hoped that we would've played for a title by year 5. But I also recognize that Sark has at least gotten us on the cusp and back in the conversation regularly, which is a place we haven't been since Colt got hurt.

It's not unrealistic at all in this era of CFB with transfer portal. Hell, Indiana of all schools, very well may do it.

22 minutes ago, immamac said:

I also think it's crazy to just forgive sark for everything because he beat a now exposed dogshit aggy like it was something that was redeeming.

The win is great, but a real killer instinct coach knows you are on the bubble and destroying them and consuming their soul on national TV gets you a real shot into the playoffs.

@Im_smarter_then_you nailed it in either this thread or another thread when he said something along the lines of "good enough is good enough for Texas fans"

I woke up this morning hoping this thread would continue to provide thoughtful commentary on Ohio State, Florida, and Georgia. Thank you for fulfilling my dreams.

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19 minutes ago, immamac said:

Further. Undefeated top seed in the playoffs having beat Ohio State the reigning champs. Something Sark hasn't done and I bet they beat georgia too. Something else sark hasn't done. Wait till the season is over before you talk shit about a guy who in year 2 has more hardware in an arguably stronger conference than Texas.

I'm betting IU wins the NC over Georgia.

16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

^^^^Still hasn't gotten as far as Sark^^^^

Made the playoffs in year one. At Indiana.
Sark was 8-5 in year two. At poor, resource-challenged Texas.

I do think Sark is a better coach than Cignetti. Cignetti isn't as smart, so he has to keep his team focused and playing at a very high level throughout the game, whereas Sark can have his team come out flat like they did against Florida or in the second half vs Kentucky, Arizona State and Vanderbilt, and still pull out the win. 😡

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2 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Made the playoffs in year one. At Indiana.
Sark was 8-5 in year two. At poor, resource-challenged Texas.

I do think Sark is a better coach than Cignetti. Cignetti isn't as smart, so he has to keep his team focused and playing at a very high level throughout the game, whereas Sark can have his team come out flat like they did against Florida or in the second half vs Kentucky, Arizona State and Vanderbilt, and still pull out the win. 😡

That was PK’s fault, he’s gone bro, move on. Muschamp will fix all those problems. You remember? He made Mack play freshman and get people playing time so in the event of an injury Texas was prepared . He forced Mack to fix the OL and found Colt a good rb. I member.

5 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Made the playoffs in year one. At Indiana.
Sark was 8-5 in year two. At poor, resource-challenged Texas.

I do think Sark is a better coach than Cignetti. Cignetti isn't as smart, so he has to keep his team focused and playing at a very high level throughout the game, whereas Sark can have his team come out flat like they did against Florida or in the second half vs Kentucky, Arizona State and Vanderbilt, and still pull out the win. 😡

Is this sarcasm?

45 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I woke up this morning hoping this thread would continue to provide thoughtful commentary on Ohio State, Florida, and Georgia. Thank you for fulfilling my dreams.

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I woke up feeling the cheeziest!

Fuck, it's not game day

1 hour ago, immamac said:

@David Dennison gonna be a stupid pedantic cunt about something when it happens too instead of just taking the very fucking obvious L from the beginning that cignetti is a better coach.

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4 hours ago, Nuge said:

Why leave the big 12 if we're just going to whine and cry for cupcakes?

Because, ultimately, the B1G and SEC will grow to 20+ teams and their champions will play for the national title. We had to have a seat the table. Until that time comes, we have to be smart in how we approach winning titles. In our current paradigm, playing very difficult OOC road games, when SOS is irrelevant and the # of wins is all that matters, is not smart.

3 hours ago, Tex Long said:

Win any of tOSU, UGa, FLA and we're in. Nobody disputes this. Arguing about scheduling tOSU instead of Little Sisters of the Poor is pointless.

If we could go back in time, and schedule Texas State in place of Ohio State, knowing what we know now, should we do it? Yes, because if we did it, we would be in the playoffs. That is the point.

Well, we have the opportuntiy to impact future seasons. We should not repeatedly make the same mistake. Keeping Ohio State, Michigan and ND on our upcoming future schedules is making the same mistake over and over and over again.

1 minute ago, Josef Pwag said:

Because, ultimately, the B1G and SEC will grow to 20+ teams and their champions will play for the national title. We had to have a seat the table. Until that time comes, we have to be smart in how we approach winning titles. In our current paradigm, playing very difficult OOC road games, when SOS is irrelevant and the # of wins is all that matters, is not smart.

If we could go back in time, and schedule Texas State in place of Ohio State, knowing what we know now, should we do it? Yes, because if we did it, we would be in the playoffs. That is the point.

Well, we have the opportuntiy to impact future seasons. We should not repeatedly make the same mistake. Keeping Ohio State, Michigan and ND on our upcoming future schedules is making the same mistake over and over and over again.

Idk man that game was awesome. It just sucks that the team shit their fucking pants through the 2nd bye week basically.

On 12/27/2025 at 9:43 PM, MrBig said:

I understand what you’re trying to say here in terms of Texas being relevant, but saying everyone knows we “played our playoff games during the season and came up short” sounds so fucking aggy even if it’s true.

This.

People on this board vacillate between “we are a blue blood/we are back/we are top five/we’re Texas” and “OMG we totally need to bail out on any non-conference games that are above Sam Houston level! No OSU! No ND! Schedule like a wuss and make sure we don’t play any tough OOC games!”

It explains a lot of what I see posted on this site.

Just now, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

This.

People on this board vacillate between “we are a blue blood/we are back/we are top five/we’re Texas” and “OMG we totally need to bail out on any non-conference games that are above Sam Houston level! No OSU! No ND! Schedule like a wuss and make sure we don’t play any tough OOC games!”

It explains a lot of what I see posted on this site.

You forgot super jelly of Indiana.

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

Probably. But if we would have beat a few more teams by 50 instead of going to overtime against fucking Kentucky, then our argument would have been a helluva lot stronger this year, even with three losses.

Sark can bitch about Miami throwing the ball up 28 in the 4th quarter, but Miami's still playing meaningful football and we're not.

Sark may not like it, but style matters. Margin of victory matters. It may not be meaningful. But as long as humans are selecting the participants, that shit will mean more than people admit. And Sark's gonna have to start playing that game.

Vic Schaefer keeping our WBB squad in constant 94-foot attack mode against teams good and bad might draw the ire of some coaches, but whatever. "You play to the standard," he stresses. I wouldn't mind seeing Sark adopt that idea.

27 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Also, I will laugh hysterically if Alabama wins on Thursday.

Yes, because what Indiana has achieved in two seasons isn't anywhere as impressive as what Texas has achieved under late-stage Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman and now Sark.

1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

Yes, because what Indiana has achieved in two seasons isn't anywhere as impressive as what Texas has achieved under late-stage Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman and now Sark.

One of those things is not like the other. Sark made the semi-finals two years in a row. Indiana has yet to win a playoff game, instead ending last year getting absolutely blasted by ND before a couple of late scores to make it look somewhat respectable. Maybe it will make it there this year. But it seems premature to suggest that they've already eclipsed what Sark has accomplished. They are a good team that played an absolutely dog shit schedule. Let's see them actually win a playoff game.

6 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Yes, because what Indiana has achieved in two seasons isn't anywhere as impressive as what Texas has achieved under late-stage Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman and now Sark.

Maybe we can be Indiana someday.

Fingers crossed.

1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

I do think Sark is a better coach than Cignetti. Cignetti isn't as smart, so he has to keep his team focused and playing at a very high level throughout the game, whereas Sark can have his team come out flat like they did against Florida or in the second half vs Kentucky, Arizona State and Vanderbilt, and still pull out the win. 😡

Don’t forget to mention how Cignetti has to constantly babysit his team in order to make sure they have the 4th fewest penalties in the Big Ten while Sark trusts his team enough to let them be at the bottom of the SEC in penalties. It takes a true genius to come out of bye weeks & timeouts with delay of game and false start penalties because Sark deeply trusts in his offensive vision and player discipline.

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

One of those things is not like the other. Sark made the semi-finals two years in a row. Indiana has yet to win a playoff game, instead ending last year getting absolutely blasted by ND before a couple of late scores to make it look somewhat respectable. Maybe it will make it there this year. But it seems premature to suggest that they've already eclipsed what Sark has accomplished. They are a good team that played an absolutely dog shit schedule. Let's see them actually win a playoff game.

Those are fair points, and Sark has been a major improvement over the mostly dog-shit coaching we've had since 2011.

However, we can fairly compare Cignetti to the first two years of Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman and Steve Sarkesian.

FYI, Indiana's 'absolutely dog-shit schedule' this season includes wins over Ohio State, Oregon and Penn State on the road.

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We're not getting Cignetti, y'all.

@immamac We need to move all this Sark vs Cignetti talk into a new thread called “Curt Cignetti Clearly Can’t Coach”

2 minutes ago, MrBig said:

@immamac We need to move all this Sark vs Cignetti talk into a new thread called “Curt Cignetti Clearly Can’t Coach”

Better yet, "This is who Curt Cignetti is."

Man, I love how David can twist people in this site in knots. He's like a shadow futureman but not massively stupid and tiresome.

On 12/28/2025 at 5:12 PM, Codaxx said:

He has already gotten a first round grade Forgot the guy, but he had Goosby the #1 OT in the draft. CBS Sports has him #7 overall. He has elite traits. I don’t think he played quite to that level, but I understand the projection. I don’t think he will be a consensus 1st round guy this year, but who knows.

Consensus of many mock drafts has Goosby at #40.

That site is a good aggregation of the mock drafts... It tracks 73 mock drafts for Goosby. 31 of them have him in the first round. Some of them involve the same person at different times during the year. Unscientific and most of those guys know as much about football as some of our weaker posters.

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Man, I love how David can twist people in this site in knots. He's like a shadow futureman but not massively stupid and tiresome.

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6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We're not getting Cignetti, y'all.

No, we are not getting Cignetti, but that is not the point.

Cignetti proved that to win today, you don't have to be a blue-blood. You have to be able to replace mediocre players through the portal, actually get the most out of your top athletes (who knew?), develop your players and field a well-prepared, focused and motivated team.

I have no confidence that our current coach can accomplish that.

4 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

No, we are not getting Cignetti, but that is not the point.

Cignetti proved that to win today, you don't have to be a blue-blood. You have to be able to replace mediocre players through the portal, actually get the most out of your top athletes (who knew?), develop your players and field a well-prepared, focused and motivated team.

I have no confidence that our current coach can accomplish that.

Neither has Curt Cignetti.

And that's the point.

Maybe, though!

1 hour ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

People on this board vacillate between “we are a blue blood/we are back/we are top five/we’re Texas” and “OMG we totally need to bail out on any non-conference games that are above Sam Houston level! No OSU! No ND! Schedule like a wuss and make sure we don’t play any tough OOC games!”

Texas being a blue blood is not mutually exclusive from being smart & startegic with our scheduling.

Does anyone know if Ohio State and Michigan fans are up in arms about scheduling Texas?

Edited by David Dennison

13 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

No, we are not getting Cignetti, but that is not the point.

Cignetti proved that to win today, you don't have to be a blue-blood. You have to be able to replace mediocre players through the portal, actually get the most out of your top athletes (who knew?), develop your players and field a well-prepared, focused and motivated team.

I have no confidence that our current coach can accomplish that.

You only need to replicate perhaps the greatest two-season coaching job in this century. It's that easy!

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23 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Those are fair points, and Sark has been a major improvement over the mostly dog-shit coaching we've had since 2011.

However, we can fairly compare Cignetti to the first two years of Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman and Steve Sarkesian.

FYI, Indiana's 'absolutely dog-shit schedule' this season includes wins over Ohio State, Oregon and Penn State on the road.

Ohio State and Oregon are good teams. You'll have to explain to me why you're including 7-6 Penn State with losses to 3-9 UCLA and Northwestern in that list. I also don't think you can compare Cignetti's first two seasons with established NIL and the transfer portal to any other time. Transferring in an entire, experienced team simply wasn't an option ever before.

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