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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Why are you parsing the words of a girl who was a victim of child sex trafficking and is now dead?

Parsing her words?  She is denying having sex with Trump, being with Trump at Epstein house, etc... in her own words. 

 Its clear now that she was with Trump at Epstein's house for hours having sex.  Why is this so controversial?  If she would have just told the truth, Trump is in prison. 

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54 minutes ago, Nivek said:


What the fuck is wrong with you? I bet you call yourself a Christian.

No, no.  See, he calls himself a "Bible-believing Christian." That way, he can hold up the Bible like a shield against any and all criticism, as he simultaneously demonstrates a contempt for human agency and dignity that would make Christ fucking puke.

13 minutes ago, Lamar said:

Im not characterizing anything.  I am reading exactly what she said.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/virginia-giuffre-trump-jeffrey-epstein/story?id=127468657

In a November 2016 deposition, Giuffre was asked by an attorney for Maxwell what was inaccurate about the Trump quote in the 2011 article.

Giuffre replied:

“Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.” That part is true. “He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.” It’s true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, and - but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Then the next sentence is, "He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.'" I never said that to her.

Q: When you say, "he didn't partake in any sex with any of us," who is "us"?

Giuffre: Girls. Just --

Q: How do you know who Donald Trump – Trump had sex with?

Giuffre: Oh, I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls.

Q: And who were the other girls that you were with in Donald Trump's presence?

Giuffre: None. There -- I worked for Donald Trump, and I've met him probably a few times.

Q: When have you met him?

Giuffre: At Mar-a-Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk all the time -- well, not all the time but when they saw each other.

Q: Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?

Giuffre: No.

 

 

The fucking twisted logic of these pedo defenders is fantastic.

"I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls" is a far cry from "Donald Trump never raped anyone underage."

"I never saw him rape anyone" does not equal, and has never equaled "he didn't rape anyone."

Shit, I've never seen Donald Trump eat a hamberder.....so by Lamar's standard of proof, Donald Trump has never eaten a hamberder.

This is the mind of a Trumpkin, folks.  It's a toxic stew of disingenuous bullshit, flat-out lies, and breathtaking stupidity.

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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Why are you parsing the words of a girl who was a victim of child sex trafficking and is now dead?

Probably because it's part of the evidence in a mystery people are trying to figure out.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Foggy Notion said:

 

Huh.  Sounds good, Donnie.  There's a super-duper quick and clean way to do that.

Release the Epstein files, like you promised to do several hundred times during your campaign.

I'm sure that @Lamar agrees with me, right?  He campaigned on that promise, relentlessly and with zero ambiguity or consistency.  So surely Lamar agrees.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

No, no.  See, he calls himself a "Bible-believing Christian." That way, he can hold up the Bible like a shield against any and all criticism, as he simultaneously demonstrates a contempt for human agency and dignity that would make Christ fucking puke.

The fucking twisted logic of these pedo defenders is fantastic.

"I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls" is a far cry from "Donald Trump never raped anyone underage."

"I never saw him rape anyone" does not equal, and has never equaled "he didn't rape anyone."

Shit, I've never seen Donald Trump eat a hamberder.....so by Lamar's standard of proof, Donald Trump has never eaten a hamberder.

This is the mind of a Trumpkin, folks.  It's a toxic stew of disingenuous bullshit, flat-out lies, and breathtaking stupidity.

What the fuck are you talking about???  I THINK TRUMP FUCKED VIRGINIA GIUFFRE and should be thrown in prison.  She lied about it under oath about fucking him and being in Epstein's hours with him for hours.

Do I think  Trump fucked other girls, yes.  I don't give a shit what Giuffre says about that.  She has 100% knowledge that she spent hours at Epstein house fucking Trump and did not tell truth about it.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Huh.  Sounds good, Donnie.  There's a super-duper quick and clean way to do that.

Release the Epstein files, like you promised to do several hundred times during your campaign.

I'm sure that @Lamar agrees with me, right?  He campaigned on that promise, relentlessly and with zero ambiguity or consistency.  So surely Lamar agrees.

Yes.  As I have said 10x in this thread, release all of the files.  All of Giuffre's text/email will almost certainly prove she is lying. She had to have told someone about fucking Trump over the years.  

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25 minutes ago, Lamar said:

Im not characterizing anything.  I am reading exactly what she said.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/virginia-giuffre-trump-jeffrey-epstein/story?id=127468657

In a November 2016 deposition, Giuffre was asked by an attorney for Maxwell what was inaccurate about the Trump quote in the 2011 article.

Giuffre replied:

“Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.” That part is true. “He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.” It’s true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, and - but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Then the next sentence is, "He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.'" I never said that to her.

Q: When you say, "he didn't partake in any sex with any of us," who is "us"?

Giuffre: Girls. Just --

Q: How do you know who Donald Trump – Trump had sex with?

Giuffre: Oh, I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls.

Q: And who were the other girls that you were with in Donald Trump's presence?

Giuffre: None. There -- I worked for Donald Trump, and I've met him probably a few times.

Q: When have you met him?

Giuffre: At Mar-a-Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk all the time -- well, not all the time but when they saw each other.

Q: Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?

Giuffre: No.

What's your angle here?

You like Trump a lot?  Or Epstein?  Or you're the one guy who sees something no one else does?  

I haven't drilled down into the detail or exactly who or what but I can sure say Trump is guilty just based on a cursory reading/hearing of this matter.  His behavior alone is an admission.  And even without it, he's a terrible human who no idiot should have ever voted for.  

Enjoy your negs.

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35 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

Trump gave Clinton a blowjob and Putin has the photos?!  

I guess we know why Trump always bends over for Putin.  

 

Just saw a good comment calling him Donica Lewinsky.

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35 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Megyn Kelly is absolutely getting roasted over her comments.  Just roasted.

Also, there's a meme going around discussing how Trump has sued all kinds of publications and people over all kinds of stuff, but he's never sued anybody who accused him of child rape.  Any truth to that?

Pulled this from Jeff Tiedrich's Substack this AM:

 

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2 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

What's your angle here?

 

I dont like pedophiles.  In Celina or in the White House.   I also don't like people protecting them.

These new emails from Epstein to Maxwell (from 2011) show that Giuffre and Trump spent hours together at Epstein house.  In all of Giuffre statements, she denies it.  All she had to do was tell the truth, that she spent hours with Trump having sex at Esptien and this thing is over with.  Instead, she protects Trump and lies about it.  Its fucking bullshit. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Lamar said:

I dont like pedophiles.  In Celina or in the White House.   I also don't like people protecting them.

These new emails from Epstein to Maxwell (from 2011) show that Giuffre and Trump spent hours together at Epstein house.  In all of Giuffre statements, she denies it.  All she had to do was tell the truth, that she spent hours with Trump having sex at Esptien and this thing is over with.  Instead, she protects Trump and lies about it.  Its fucking bullshit. 

For a guy who doesn't like pedophiles you sure seem to like pedophiles.

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3 minutes ago, Lamar said:

 

I dont like pedophiles.  In Celina or in the White House.   I also don't like people protecting them.

These new emails from Epstein to Maxwell (from 2011) show that Giuffre and Trump spent hours together at Epstein house.  In all of Giuffre statements, she denies it.  All she had to do was tell the truth, that she spent hours with Trump having sex at Esptien and this thing is over with.  Instead, she protects Trump and lies about it.  Its fucking bullshit. 

 

I didn't follow that story close enough but we know for damn sure it wouldn't have mattered even a little bit if she said she fucked him when she was a child. It could be on film, broadcast over the airwaves, and placed in the hands of every law enforcement office in the country, and he would not only not be in jail he would still have been elected president. You know that too. This country has TDS as it half the electorate literally worships this guy and excuses everything he does, becasue trans people and lib tears. Welcome to 'murica.

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6 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

What's your angle here?

You like Trump a lot?  Or Epstein?  Or you're the one guy who sees something no one else does?  

I haven't drilled down into the detail or exactly who or what but I can sure say Trump is guilty just based on a cursory reading/hearing of this matter.  His behavior alone is an admission.  And even without it, he's a terrible human who no idiot should have ever voted for.  

Enjoy your negs.

Y'all need to slow down and read what he wrote.  Republicans are using Giuffre's statements to prove that Trump did nothing wrong.  Lamar is saying that the emails state that Trump spent many hours with Giuffre, with the implication that he had sex with her.  For that implication to be correct, Giuffre would have to be lying. I think it's possible Trump didn't have sex with her, but had sex with other victims.  I think it's possible she is lying (or suppressing memories) and Trump did have sex with her.  Not trusting her statements does not mean I lack sympathy for her.  (Maybe that's where Lamar and I differ.)  Either way, she was a child who was raped on a regular basis for the profit and entertainment of rich and powerful men.  

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I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

 

he wasn't on the hourly plan 

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

 

I'm sorry, what is not clear about this?  The only word redacted is Virginia.  I suppose there could be another name under the redaction but this is certainly not what is being reported.

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

It was redacted.  I thought NBC had confirmation it was Giuffre, but that may have just been related to another redacted email.  

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2 minutes ago, Lamar said:

 

I'm sorry, what is not clear about this?  The only word redacted is Virginia.  I suppose there could be another name under the redaction but this is certainly not what is being reported.

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You know Epstein had more than one victim, right?

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16 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

Maybe I misunderstood this...  What email are you specifically referring to regarding spending hours with a victim?  

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I still can't figure out why he's using the term "the dog that hasn't barked." First, assuming its from Sherlock Holmes, the phrase is "the dog that didn't bark" in which Holmes deduced that because the dog did not bark the perpetrator was someone the dog was familiar with. It sounds like he's saying that trump's name hasn't come up in the investigation even though he was with one of the trafficked victims and that he's 75% ready to out him to the authorities. That's how it sounds to me at least but the phrase still don't work. 

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19 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Y'all need to slow down and read what he wrote.  Republicans are using Giuffre's statements to prove that Trump did nothing wrong.  Lamar is saying that the emails state that Trump spent many hours with Giuffre, with the implication that he had sex with her.  For that implication to be correct, Giuffre would have to be lying. I think it's possible Trump didn't have sex with her, but had sex with other victims.  I think it's possible she is lying (or suppressing memories) and Trump did have sex with her.  Not trusting her statements does not mean I lack sympathy for her.  (Maybe that's where Lamar and I differ.)  Either way, she was a child who was raped on a regular basis for the profit and entertainment of rich and powerful men.  

Yeah, yeah.  It's like that one time when in the Bible in Ecclesiastes 3:2-13 it's written there's a right time for birth and another for death, a right time to plant and another to reap, a right time to kill and another to heal and all that.  And a time to know when the some asshole with some weird ass logic wants to thread the needle on one or two points THAT MAKES EVERYTHING OK.  Fuck all that.  

I work in a business where on every job there's one or two subcontractors who signed agreements they didn't read or understand or even if they did they didn't have any intention of performing on.  That's Lamar.

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Hey dude, some serious advice: talk to someone about your problems.  You need help. 

BTW, I don't give a damn about imaginary rep points on the internet.  Shouldn't you be at work today?

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I'm sorry, what is not clear about this?  The only word redacted is Virginia.  I suppose there could be another name under the redaction but this is certainly not what is being reported.
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The Republicans released this email as well with the name not redacted. Pretty sure it was Virginia. If I’m wrong, somebody can correct me.
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24 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I don’t think it’s actually clear that the emails about Trump spending hours with a victim were about Giuffre. I think that’s an assumption someone made and a lot of people ran with.

 

15 minutes ago, Lamar said:

 

I'm sorry, what is not clear about this?  The only word redacted is Virginia.  I suppose there could be another name under the redaction but this is certainly not what is being reported.

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14 minutes ago, Tuco said:

It was redacted.  I thought NBC had confirmation it was Giuffre, but that may have just been related to another redacted email.  

This email is from the batch of documents that the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform subpoenaed from the Epstein estate.

Democrats released this email and a couple others on Wednesday, and the name was redacted in the version that was initially made public although it was not redacted in the files received from Epstein’s estate. Later in the day Republicans released the unredacted version which confirmed that the redacted name was Virginia.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/house-democrats-release-new-epstein-emails-referencing-trump/story?id=127435983

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3 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Hey dude, some serious advice: talk to someone about your problems.  You need help. 

BTW, I don't give a damn about imaginary rep points on the internet.  Shouldn't you be at work today?

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4 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Hey dude, some serious advice: talk to someone about your problems.  You need help. 

BTW, I don't give a damn about imaginary rep points on the internet.  Shouldn't you be at work today?

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You just took a screenshot and posted about it.  And you posted to me about enjoying all of the neg you were going to put on me.  And you proceeded to neg me 15-20 times.  I can tell you dont "give a damn about imaginary rep points on the internet"

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14 minutes ago, Lamar said:

Maybe I misunderstood this...  What email are you specifically referring to regarding spending hours with a victim?  

It's the same email you posted man.  Not having "Virginia" is a pretty critical redaction if the question is whether Virginia knew about it.  

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1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

Am I the only guy where with a working "neg" button?

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You dont give a damn.... BWHAHAHAHAHA

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52 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

What's your angle here?

You like Trump a lot?  Or Epstein?  Or you're the one guy who sees something no one else does?  

I haven't drilled down into the detail or exactly who or what but I can sure say Trump is guilty just based on a cursory reading/hearing of this matter.  His behavior alone is an admission.  And even without it, he's a terrible human who no idiot should have ever voted for.  

Enjoy your negs.

You dont give a damn about neg on the in internet... BWHAHAHA

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Foggy Notion said:

 

 

This email is from the batch of documents that the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform subpoenaed from the Epstein estate.

Democrats released this email and a couple others on Wednesday, and the name was redacted in the version that was initially made public although it was not redacted in the files received from Epstein’s estate. Later in the day Republicans released the unredacted version which confirmed that the redacted name was Virginia.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/house-democrats-release-new-epstein-emails-referencing-trump/story?id=127435983

Thanks.  I hadn't caught that.  

And, anyone else find this quote kinda funny in retrospect: 

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I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff replied the next day.

 

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