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1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

I've been thinking of branching out and getting a pair of trailrunners for my day hiking needs.  I know the Altra Lone Peaks are really popular on the PCT, but I hear they aren't particularly durable.  I'll be interested in hearing how your Topos hold up. 

I have some Lone Peaks. Unfortunately I cannot talk to the durability as I’ve really only used them on a few hikes. Bought them last year for hiking in Hawaii and then used them for lots of urban hiking here in Austin before I knocked up the wife and the COVID thing happened. They are amazingly comfy, love the huge footbed. I wasn’t sure about zero drop, but I quickly got used to it. 

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I've been thinking of branching out and getting a pair of trailrunners for my day hiking needs.  I know the Altra Lone Peaks are really popular on the PCT, but I hear they aren't particularly durable.  I'll be interested in hearing how your Topos hold up. 
Only had them a couple weeks, but very comfortable on the first couple hikes I've done with them.

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So, I have temporarily given up mountain biking in favor of hiking local trails and am wearing low shoes. 

What kind of shorts do the cognoscenti wear? I have light, quick dry long pants, but basically basketball type shorts and khaki shorts that I need a belt with.  I am kind of digging the basketball shorts. Very free with the elastic drawstring waist and roomy cut, but shitty pockets, but I put everything but a knife in my camelbak. 

Does anyone else do this? 

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, I have temporarily given up mountain biking in favor of hiking local trails and am wearing low shoes. 

What kind of shorts do the cognoscenti wear? I have light, quick dry long pants, but basically basketball type shorts and khaki shorts that I need a belt with.  I am kind of digging the basketball shorts. Very free but shitty pockets, but I put everything but a knife in my camelbak. 

Does anyone else do this? 

I like Kuhl & Prana but there is a multitude of choices that are very similar to both those brands. REI, Outdoor Research, Arc'teryx, etc, etc

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34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, I have temporarily given up mountain biking in favor of hiking local trails and am wearing low shoes. 

What kind of shorts do the cognoscenti wear? I have light, quick dry long pants, but basically basketball type shorts and khaki shorts that I need a belt with.  I am kind of digging the basketball shorts. Very free with the elastic drawstring waist and roomy cut, but shitty pockets, but I put everything but a knife in my camelbak. 

Does anyone else do this? 

I’m 100% birddogs now days. They have the worst and most douchey marketing, but they make great shorts.

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I wear Prana Zion pants, even when it’s hot. They don’t really get me hot, since they’re UPF 50 and keep the sun out.

 

They do make shorts too, though.

 

The Brion is the same without the side pocket things and snaps, and a slim fit.

 

There is also the Zion straight which has a straight cut in the lower leg for a more casual look.

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I should probably give in and just wear my long pants, my legs and ankles are getting shredded.  But it seems wrong.

Oddly enough, the long pants are some Wrangler stretch poly nylon things that I saw at Walmart and was kind of intrigued and revolted.  I looked them up on amazon and they had like all 5-star reviews, so I got some for 20 bucks.  They're fucking fantastic and even look decent.  Light, stretchy, five pockets (a discreet cargo pocket on leg with zipper), surprisingly breathable. I'm a fairly recent convert to synthetics at least for technical pursuits.

Looks like a lot of the shorts you guys are recommending are similar.

I would be sorely tempted to try the basketball/sports shorts thing on a trip, though. I thought the pockets would be a dealbreaker hiking, but not so far and I don't see it being a problem on an actual trek either.

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10 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

I wear Prana Zion pants, even when it’s hot. They don’t really get me hot, since they’re UPF 50 and keep the sun out.

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I wear simple basketball type shorts for hot weather (and most days for working at home during COVID) and REI or Columbia long pants that zip off at the knees for mountain weather.

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

I wear simple basketball type shorts for hot weather (and most days for working at home during COVID) and REI or Columbia long pants that zip off at the knees for mountain weather.

The elastic drawstring waist seems like it would be either ideal under a hipbelt or maybe a disaster (getting shoved down), but they do seem to offer tons of freedom of movement, which is nice.

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I like Kuhl & Prana but there is a multitude of choices that are very similar to both those brands. REI, Outdoor Research, Arc'teryx, etc, etc
Yep. I just go to REI and pick some out.

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22 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Very free with the elastic drawstring waist and roomy cut, but shitty pockets, but I put everything but a knife in my camelbak. 

Does anyone else do this? 

I have a pair of kulh shorts, have had some Merrell shorts and REI branded shorts.  They're all nice but mostly I wear a pair of running/gym shorts when it's hot .  They don't hold up as well in the long term, but also cost a lot less. 

I also have some of the Wrangler pants and shirts from Walmart.  So far so good, I mainly wear them as my everyday walking around shorts.  

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Just pulled in from our four week tour of the western US. Four weeks and we covered 10 national parks,  11 if you count King's Canyon and Sequoia seperately. Was an awesome trip and I will post some more later after I get some much needed shut eye.

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2 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Just pulled in from our four week tour of the western US. Four weeks and we covered 10 national parks,  11 if you count King's Canyon and Sequoia seperately. Was an awesome trip and I will post some more later after I get some much needed shut eye.

Oh hell yeah. 

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Here are a few selections from my road trip to Telluride. Camped one night at Junction Creek campground and the southern terminus of the Colorado Trail, outside of Durango, on the way up. Saw a few thru hikers that were finishing their hikes that morning. 486 miles from Denver. 
 

 

 

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We kind of touched on this earlier, but this is a slightly different question. Now that my paradigm is shifting toward light, low hiking shoes, I am learning that a lot of runners and hikers seem to wear very thin socks.  This seems to be counterintuitive as there still seems to be enough stuff inside even light, cushiony shoes to cause hotspots and blisters.

Seems like most of the sock recos upthread are normal, cushiony sox.  a) true b) false c) depends?

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If you think about it, the blisters occur because of rubbing between the skin and socks, not skin and shoe.  Now, sure the shoe is what causes the  sock to move around.  But for the same reason most serious athletes of any sport wear tight stretchy spandex, thin stretchy socks will confirm to your foot and move with your foot.  Moreso than thick bulky loose ish socks.  Also consider a thick weave on a big thick sock vs a thin weave.  It's like 50 grit vs 409 grit sandpaper.  

I have a pair of dual layer socks I like, but aren't worth the money, and some people wear a thin inner sock and then whatever other sock on top, weather dependent.  

 

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1 hour ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

If you think about it, the blisters occur because of rubbing between the skin and socks, not skin and shoe.  Now, sure the shoe is what causes the  sock to move around.  But for the same reason most serious athletes of any sport wear tight stretchy spandex, thin stretchy socks will confirm to your foot and move with your foot.  Moreso than thick bulky loose ish socks.  Also consider a thick weave on a big thick sock vs a thin weave.  It's like 50 grit vs 409 grit sandpaper.  

I have a pair of dual layer socks I like, but aren't worth the money, and some people wear a thin inner sock and then whatever other sock on top, weather dependent.  

 

Yeah I have done the thin inner, thick outer for years when serious hiking with a pack, but also with boots.  That makes perfect sense to me.  The outer sock cushions and covers and smooths all the joints and seams and the inner sock provides a sort of slick layer, as well as the wicking.

Even with all that, thinner socks inside a shoe doesn't make much sense to me.  But I'm not talking ragg socks or even something as thick as Thorlo's sport socks.  Just regular sport socks with a cushion bottom and thinner top as they tend to be.  The wigwam "ultimax" (I called them coolmax above) that I have aren't super thick and follow the cushion bottom/toe, thin top formula, but they are several years old before the "enhanced trail runner" thing took over.

For these 2-3 mile day hikes I'm doing in lieu of MTB, I'm just wearing whatever comes up in the sock drawer and they're fine.  I'm just wondering about more serious treks.  

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah I have done the thin inner, thick outer for years when serious hiking with a pack, but also with boots.  That makes perfect sense to me.  The outer sock cushions and covers and smooths all the joints and seams and the inner sock provides a sort of slick layer, as well as the wicking.

Even with all that, thinner socks inside a shoe doesn't make much sense to me.  But I'm not talking ragg socks or even something as thick as Thorlo's sport socks.  Just regular sport socks with a cushion bottom and thinner top as they tend to be.  The wigwam "ultimax" (I called them coolmax above) that I have aren't super thick and follow the cushion bottom/toe, thin top formula, but they are several years old before the "enhanced trail runner" thing took over.

Again, as with shoes, I think socks really come down to personal preference and figuring out what works through trial and error.  I've used these babies since 2013 (4 pairs total in 7 years) and have had maybe 3 blisters ever.

https://www.wigwam.com/products/p-cool-lite-hiker-quarter-socks.aspx?productid=2888

 

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I don't think thick socks cushion as much as we think they do.  Picture that portion of sock under the heel, compressed directly underneath 200 pounds of human.  It's not like it's all billowy under your foot once the weight hits it.  At that point it's probably compressed almost as thin as a thin sock.  There's enough cushion in the shoes.  My opinion only, but I'm a thin sock guy.  They also stink less.  

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Again, as with shoes, I think socks really come down to personal preference and figuring out what works through trial and error.  I've used these babies since 2013 (4 pairs total in 7 years) and have had maybe 3 blisters ever.

https://www.wigwam.com/products/p-cool-lite-hiker-quarter-socks.aspx?productid=2888

 

Those would appear to be the quarter version of the socks that I have that I use(d) with boots and a thin liner.  Bought on sale from Campmor probably about 2010. I like them and wear em when it's cold and I expect to be out for a while because they wick well and therefore keep my feet dry and warm.

Just wondering if I should try something different.

 

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Was supposed to fly to Jackson to hike the Teton Crest trail in two weeks but my group called an audible and we’re road tripping from Dallas to Aspen to hike the Maroon Bells four pass loop. Both were probably in my top 5 bucket list hikes so it still feels like a win. 

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23 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Was supposed to fly to Jackson to hike the Teton Crest trail in two weeks but my group called an audible and we’re road tripping from Dallas to Aspen to hike the Maroon Bells four pass loop. Both were probably in my top 5 bucket list hikes so it still feels like a win. 

Yeah, no wrong answer there.

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Big hike on my Telluride trip was Blue Lake.  11.3 miles topping out at over 12,000 feet.  Altitude got to me at the top and it took me a while, but I made it.

 

 

 

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Big hike on my Telluride trip was Blue Lake.  11.3 miles topping out at over 12,000 feet.  Altitude got to me at the top and it took me a while, but I made it.
 
 
 
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I've done longer hikes like that, but anything longer than 7-8 miles round trip just makes my feet hurt these days. Getting old sucks.

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26 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Getting old sucks.

Better than the alternative, however.

And @Biff Tannen, gorgeous scenery. Hmu if you ever get up to my neck of the woods, especially if you like to mix fishing with the hiking/camping. I am champing at the bit for an excuse to go back out after last month.

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