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I think the trump wing is going to have trouble raising money going forward. 

I actually loled. There’s tens of millions in the country that would willingly die for him. You think they won’t empty their savings?
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11 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

All true and yet they still got their shit pushed in by 78 year old Joe Biden. They created this and now hopefully it kills them. 

They still picked up seats in the House and held a few Senate seats they were expected to lose. They'll remain extremely competitive as long as they can keep the Trumpers under the Republican umbrella.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This:

 

Establishment GOP types are apparently the last to recognize what they did to their party. They courted stupid, fundamentalist, and angry under the naive view that an irrational mob continuously whipped into a lather by fascist propaganda would be satisfied by low corporate taxes and reductions to government social and educational programs. Unsurprisingly, the mob turned on the party’s elite leadership when it balked at the idiocratic revolution, and many centrist fiscal policy fetishist voters now seek asylum with the Democrats. 

Some Republican politicians will slide right into right wing authoritarianism and not miss a beat. But any that think they can continue to pay mere lip service to fascism are about to experience the folly of their deal with the populist authoritarianism devil. These assholes created a monster. 

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This:

 

 

4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Establishment GOP types are apparently the last to recognize what they did to their party. They courted stupid, fundamentalist, and angry under the naive view that an irrational mob continuously whipped into a lather by fascist propaganda would be satisfied by low corporate taxes and reductions to government social and educational programs. Unsurprisingly, the mob turned on the party’s elite leadership when it balked at the idiocratic revolution, and many centrist fiscal policy fetishist voters now seek asylum with the Democrats. 

Some Republican politicians will slide right into right wing authoritarianism and not miss a beat. But any that think they can continue to pay mere lip service to fascism are about to experience the folly of their deal with the populist authoritarianism devil. These assholes created a monster. 

These.

Many sane citizens on this board hope that the GOP can come to its senses, and go back to just being a mildly racist party for oligarchs.  That hope is in vain.

The GOP establishment hopes the same.  That hope is in vain.

The GOP doesn't stand for anything BUT batshittery and cruelty.  It is the entire brand.  To push anything else is as stupid and pointless as pushing McDonalds as "the best salad restaurant!"  Sure, there might still be a salad on the menu somewhere, but it's a burgers, fries, and nuggets restaurant.  Calling it anything else is just lying to yourself.

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11 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Establishment GOP types are apparently the last to recognize what they did to their party. They courted stupid, fundamentalist, and angry under the naive view that an irrational mob continuously whipped into a lather by fascist propaganda would be satisfied by low corporate taxes and reductions to government social and educational programs. Unsurprisingly, the mob turned on the party’s elite leadership when it balked at the idiocratic revolution, and many centrist fiscal policy fetishist voters now seek asylum with the Democrats. 

Some Republican politicians will slide right into right wing authoritarianism and not miss a beat. But any that think they can continue to pay mere lip service to fascism are about to experience the folly of their deal with the populist authoritarianism devil. These assholes created a monster. 

Almost all of them already have. Only 10 Republicans in the House voted to impeach Trump for the coup. Maybe 5 Republican Senators at the most will vote to convict. That's it, they're the only ones in the party that haven't already slid all the way into fascism (and one of them is Liz Cheney, who is pretty fucking fascist). Even their few "good" ones left are monsters.

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3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Almost all of them already have. Only 10 Republicans in the House voted to impeach Trump for the coup. Maybe 5 Republican Senators at the most will vote to convict. That's it, they're the only ones in the party that haven't already slid all the way into fascism (and one of them is Liz Cheney, who is pretty fucking fascist). Even their few "good" ones left are monsters.

This.  Just count how they voted when the question came up -- "are you cool with a violent and deadly fascist revolt that tried to decapitate a branch of the government?"  They overwhelmingly voted to excuse it.  There is no Civil War -- Civil War would require a meaningful opposition.

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1 hour ago, WBT said:

145-61 is clinging?

Yes, because in these caucus elections/confirmations, if you don't have unanimous or near-unanimous support, your future in these kind of things is kind of murky.

Think of it as a vote of confidence.  She doesn't have (even with a secret vote) an overwhelming majority of her own party that support her.

She isn't getting kicked out of the GOP, but she was put on notice that she and her kind days are numbered.

To edit:  On November 17, 2020, she was re-elected without opposition to remain in her position.  On February 3, 2021, 61 of her cohorts voted to remove her from that position.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_leadership_elections,_2021

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House Republicans held leadership elections on November 17, 2020.[19] The following representatives were elected to leadership positions in the 117th Congress:

Kevin McCarthy, minority leader: McCarthy was re-elected without opposition.[20]

Steve Scalise, minority whip: Scalise was re-elected without opposition.[21]

Liz Cheney, Republican Conference chairman: Cheney was re-elected without opposition.[21]

Gary Palmer, Republican Policy Committee chairman: Palmer was re-elected without opposition.[21]

Tom Emmer was re-elected as National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) chair.[22]

 

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When the establishment of your party believes in nothing, does nothing for people, and only cares about power, they are gonna lose out to a passionate cause, even if it ends up being a conspiracy theory full of dumbfuckery and racism. The GOP civil war ended over 4 years ago.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, WBT said:

145-61 is clinging?

i would say yes, because of the secret ballot, which is cowardly bullshit. i imagine that vote is much tighter had they gone on record.

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21 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

i would say yes, because of the secret ballot, which is cowardly bullshit. i imagine that vote is much tighter had they gone on record.

Yep.  And because McCarthy is an idiot/coward, Donnie still wields plenty of power, even if us plebes aren't seeing/hearing about the latest batshittery he was posting on social media.  They don't want the spectacle of Trump campaigning for a primary opponent, even if many Trump supporters won't show up if Trump is not on the ballot.

Although I'm beginning to think Trump is not going to campaign for anybody unless he can rake in the lion's share of the money.

 

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep.  And because McCarthy is an idiot/coward, Donnie still wields plenty of power, even if us plebes aren't seeing/hearing about the latest batshittery he was posting on social media.  They don't want the spectacle of Trump campaigning for a primary opponent, even if many Trump supporters won't show up if Trump is not on the ballot.

Although I'm beginning to think Trump is not going to campaign for anybody unless he can rake in the lion's share of the money.

 

You mean exchanging endorsements and campaign appearances for PAC donations he will embezzle into his "foundations" and his 2024 "run" to off debts?

There's a word for that.  He's really good at soliciting it too. 

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On 1/31/2021 at 8:57 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don’t have much faith in the non Trump side winning. Crazy that rank & file members are traveling across the country to campaign against someone in gop leadership, 2 years before the next election.

It’s the trump strategy, walk in a room and punch the top guy. Teach everyone else they need to get in line.

 

On 1/31/2021 at 9:56 AM, Mrs Whiggins said:

George is too little too late. The comparisons to Nazi Germany were always relevant, despite the GOP screaming not to do so. They are consolidating power and now working through the courts (voting) and also working with GOP states that have what they call the trifecta to affect legislation.

This is what they're doing, it's what fascists do. All the rank and file people who poo-poo this are going to be watching them stroll into the WH in four years.

Well prognosticated. 

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The upcoming civil war in the GOP is going to be fascinating. 

Trump's departure will leave a power vacuum like nothing we've seen in American politics.

There is also no clear successor, no platform, no vision, and no leadership due to the way Trump has run the party.

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8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

The upcoming civil war in the GOP is going to be fascinating. 

Trump's departure will leave a power vacuum like nothing we've seen in American politics.

There is also no clear successor, no platform, no vision, and no leadership due to the way Trump has run the party.

 

one of dumbasses many flaws is his greed / not sharing $$$ with the old guard GoP. they'll be looking to cut down any maga wana be's asap and get that $$$ flowing back to them 

 

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15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

The upcoming civil war in the GOP is going to be fascinating. 

Trump's departure will leave a power vacuum like nothing we've seen in American politics.

There is also no clear successor, no platform, no vision, and no leadership due to the way Trump has run the party.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

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Trump is fucking 80 years old and can barely complete a sentence. Gimme a fucking break. It's already Weekend at Bernie's at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Trump is fucking 80 years old and can barely complete a sentence. Gimme a fucking break. It's already Weekend at Bernie's at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

He will install one of his kids or JD Vance in a puppet regime and then wield power from behind the scenes, preferably from the sauna in the clubhouse. 

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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Trump is fucking 80 years old and can barely complete a sentence. Gimme a fucking break. It's already Weekend at Bernie's at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I hope you’re right and he drops dead tonight. I just don’t think we’re gonna get that lucky and get bailed out like that. He’s got access to the best medical care in the world. If he can breathe, he will serve out this term even if Miller and the rest of the ghouls do it Weekend at Bernie’s style. If he’s still alive in 2028, he will be on the “ballot.”

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yeah trump is gonna live forever. 

holy cow y'all are strange.

gonna stick to something sane like the Sark thread on the football board.

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2 hours ago, The Dog said:

Trump's departure will leave a power vacuum like nothing we've seen in American politics.

There is also no clear successor, no platform, no vision, and no leadership due to the way Trump has run the party.

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

one of dumbasses many flaws is his greed / not sharing $$$ with the old guard GoP. they'll be looking to cut down any maga wana be's asap and get that $$$ flowing back to them 

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

old guard GoP don't give a fuck about illegals,  healthcare, saudis, ukraine, ...

what they care about .. 

Money Life GIF

 

There are a ton of old-school Republicans who are pissed that money got diverted from them to Trump and Co., and they have been waiting their turn in line and think it's their time (and that Trump and Co. interrupted their chances), and they are not going to let the Trump-lites continue feeding at their hog trough.

Edit: And none of Trump's people are even close to having the grasp on MAGA that he has, whether it's his kids or the people in his orbit.  A whole shitload of those MAGA types will probably go back to not voting like they did before.

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