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19 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yea but he didn't win it and for that a semifinal loss and 4 losses to Michigan they were ready to run him up a pike a few weeks ago.  If Freeman joins the first-timers club Day goes right back on the delusional fan base freak-out watch on the 21st.  

This board is no less freak out if their was a win on Friday and a loss on the 20th.....you know that.  

Not to mention the fact that tOSU had been stacking 5* like lumber since about 2013 at the latest.

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

He took over a stacked team that went 13-1.  Sark took over a team that went 7-3 and that had serious personnel issues.

Yeah cause head coaching turnover of a NC caliber team never resulted in dramatic drop in production.  Michigan, Washington and Bama fans would like a word with you. In his second year Day played for the NC and now he's playing for the NC again. I didn't bring up Day, but if we want to compare performance vs Sark there is reality there is narrative. And I still don't see anyone asking for Sark to be fired. 

 

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not to mention the fact that tOSU had been stacking 5* like lumber since about 2016 at the latest.

Michigan, Washington and Bama fans would like a word with you. 

Who brought up Day in the first place?

Is there room for improvement in Sark's coaching or would you both say he's perfect?

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18 minutes ago, Constant said:

 

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Blake was a very good recruiter.

The only black head football coach at Oklahoma, Blake recruited more than half of that championship team’s 22 starters, including future N.F.L. players like safety Roy Williams and linebacker Rocky Calmus.

The mere mention of that fact seems to agitate Stoops, who did recruit quarterback Josh Heupel, tailback Quentin Griffin and linebacker Torrance Marshall, all vital players in Oklahoma’s 13-2 victory against Florida State for the national title at the end of the 2000 season.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090409011252/http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/sports/ncaafootball/05sooners.html

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35 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yea but he didn't win it and for that and 4 losses to Michigan they were ready to run him up a pike a few weeks ago.  If Freeman joins the first-timers club Day goes right back on the delusional fan base freak-out watch on the 21st.  

Whereas we want to build a statue of Sark for his results 

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4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Whereas we want to build a statue of Sark for his results 

No sir, it will be an Iwo Jima type statue with Quinn and Sark lifting the Big XII championship trophy.

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43 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah cause head coaching turnover of a NC caliber team never resulted in dramatic drop in production.  Michigan, Washington and Bama fans would like a word with you. In his second year Day played for the NC and now he's playing for the NC again.

Again, Day took over for a 13-1 team THAT HE HELPED BUILD and in fact acted as head coach for 3 games the year prior.  Sark took over a 7-3 team that was constructed in a manner he was wholly in disagreement with.

You have no point here.  Stop.

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8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Again, Day took over for a 13-1 team THAT HE HELPED BUILD and in fact acted as head coach for 3 games the year prior.  Sark took over a 7-3 team that was constructed in a manner he was wholly in disagreement with.

You have no point here.  Stop.

Michigan would still like a word with you.

I notice you deleted my question so I'll post it again. 

Who brought up Day in the first place?

Is there room for improvement in Sark's coaching or would you both say he's perfect?

And you know me well enough to know I'll never stop until I've gone full regard, so why even suggest it. 

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8 hours ago, Post Oak said:

 

What an absolute imbecile.  He's an idiot poster and no doubt a moron in real life. Imagine walking around with these kinds of thoughts in your head.

 

You think that dumb motherfucker can put one foot in front of the other? 

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2 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

Johnny Sky Walker..."Johnny got the nickname "Sky Walker" because of the way he would jump over defenses to score." 

 

 

You’re thinking of Adrian Walker; don’t give a fuck what that idiotic article says, Johnny Walker was never a RB here…

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Jesus Christ to a lot of these comments about faustian bargains and shit. QE played because he knows the entire offense and has been a 3 year starter. Arch has started a total of 2 1/2 games this year. QE has his faults, but at the end of the day we had a chance to beat a team that returned all of their draft eligible defense and they stopped us. We literally could have gone to OT against the team that fuck stomped both Tennessee and Oregon. That's how good our team was. The fluke fumble for a  TD was just that, a fluke. If we didn't  score we lose by a TD to the team playing for it all. It fucking sucks, but shit, at least we showed up and punched them in the mouth. We held a fucking freak show of a WR to 1 catch for 3 yards, and their other best WR to 52 yards. That's their bread and butter and we took it away. That's called sound defense. After we shut them down they went to Tate, who got like 85 yards or some shit. They have what we should have had this year if Baxter doesnt get hurt in August, a two-headed monster RBs. 

We didn't just "shoot ourselves in the dick", we just got beat by a better team that night. That's it. Nothing else to ponder about. Could we beat them?maybe, probably, but we didn't,and now we have to wait to get our revenge game 1 next season. They lose a shiiiiiit ton of their entire defense outside of Caleb Downs. They lose their QB, like us, they will be breaking him in, but Arch has 2 starts under his belt,and regardless of who it was, he beat them. And just like they do, we have a shit ton of talent coming and already on campus as either rs frosh, rs soph,and true fish. We signed the #1 class, and a lot of them will play. 

We get Wingo,who's Arch's favorite target,DeAndre Moore, maybe, but highly doubt Golden, 2-3 of those 4/5 star WR's will be playing in game one. Also, we get Jordan Washington as a bad ass TE, Townsend who is a freak, and finally on defense Baker has give us 3 top shelf DTs, and so far we get Cole Brevard, and former 5 star Travis Shaw,who I believe will be well coached up by Baker and PK.

We still have another portal window to add another 1-2 DT's. Alex January will be back and has played a lot of ball for a frosh. 

Secondary will be fine. Kobe Black isn't Jahde Barron, but Barron wasn't who he is until his 5th season. Black is a damn good DB. Hopefully Taafe returns, and Mcdonald has shown up a lot. JJ-R and Gilbeau will take that extra step like all (most) so. Williams will be back by the end of Sept, I believe. 

This team is oozing with talent.  We're going to be fine. 

As for the Cotton Bowl loss. Fuck it. We lost and they won. Welcome to being a sports fan. We have the talent and the  coaching to get us back to the CFP and win the whole muthafucking thing. Georgia got taken down in rd 2. We should have beaten them, bud we were still finding our identity in the first game, and the SEC championship went to OT and we lost on fade by a QB that only recruiting junkies had ever even heard of. As a sign of joy, we fucking killed Carson Beck's body and mind that he now has to transfer. That's some baller shit right there. 
 

We may honestly be ranked #1 going into the season because ain't nobody gonna beat these big nut, dong dragging on the ground motherfuckers. 

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29 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

You’re thinking of Adrian Walker; don’t give a fuck what that idiotic article says, Johnny Walker was never a RB here…

ok,. thanks.  So Adrian is from Killeen or Temple?  I'm old now. 

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Nope, somebody is messed up here.  I just saw a picture of #36 Adrian Walker and it says 1991.  The Walker I am thinking of is at least 1985 or earlier.  

 

hmmm. For some reason I think he was #45, but don't know. 

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Walker, John
45
OB
6-1
210
Fr-HS
Killeen, TX (Killeen)
Walls, Herkie
11
QB-WR
5-8
146
So-1L
Garland, TX (Garland)
 
 
my Texas football brain is still working!!! from the 1980 roster!  Check out Herkie's height and weight!
 
 
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So, the reason I think I remember this guy.  Round Rock High School, I'm a freshman in the band, and we go to Killeen for the first time, and this guy runs roughshod over us, and the score might have been 21-0 at the end of quarter one.  Or I might be confusing this with the Temple game.  Either way, it made a serious impact.  We won every halftime and lost almost every football game. 

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What a great year. So grateful sark has us moving in the right way at all layers of the program. Quite an accomplishment.

Horseshit.

The winner of that game is going to be crowned National Champion, and that was a winnable game for Texas. Ergo, we'd be national champions. I'm not quite over it yet. Lack of execution for the first 2 losses. I pin this one on the coaches.
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Sark is a good coach and will continue to win a lot of games here.  In the same breath it's clear some teams/coaches have figured out his offense (which rarely uses the middle of the field).  He at the very least needs to self scout and figure out what he needs to do to fix it, and possibly hand over the offense to someone that can dedicate all their attention to it. 

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31 minutes ago, JGrayDBU said:

So, the reason I think I remember this guy.  Round Rock High School, I'm a freshman in the band, and we go to Killeen for the first time, and this guy runs roughshod over us, and the score might have been 21-0 at the end of quarter one.  Or I might be confusing this with the Temple game.  Either way, it made a serious impact.  We won every halftime and lost almost every football game. 

Or maybe it's the Mandela effect and he exists in another universe that you didn't know you were in. Or...maybe today wasn't actually today, but our minds get altered with memories that never really happened, so each person in the Matrix are reborn with new memories and believing that what our life is today has always been our life. 

 

Also, as the ever thinking man Zhuangzi

- Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly , flying happily without worry. Upon waking, he wondered if he was Zhuangzi who dreamt of being a butterfly, or if he was a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi .

 

We live in an Infinite simulation where in one you are waiting at a light and a truck was coming to hit you and kill you so you close your eyes. Upon opening them,you now see the truck going past you. So each time you "die" You're beborn as yourself in another universe. 

So maybe the Adrian Walker you're thinking of was there in another universe, but you're self-aware to know he does, in fact, live where you think, but just in another universe. 

 

Don't do drugs like me, kids. Always look at someone else's problems. 

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Whichever Walker it is, he definitely flew over the goal line on a regular basis, and don't think we would have any problem recruiting some young man to jump over the line to score TDs. 

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4 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

About the 1984 Cotton Bowl.  Both January 2025 and January 1984 have something in common.  We lost our star RB in both years.  In 1983 Edwin Simmons was the best freshman RB in the country.  Go back and look at his Texas-OU highlights.  Unbelievable speed hitting the hole, was going to run for probably 1300 yards easily.  Had knee injury, doctors somehow found out one of his legs was significantly shorter than the other and he was basically done.  

Other thing in common, we had the best D in UT history in 1983 and this one ranks #2 or 3 imo.  The 1981 D was probably better than this one.  Harder hitting, but didn't have to defend much against the pass. 

The question to ask is how long will we be in the wilderness?  January 1984 to 1990-shock the nation, only to be humiliated against Miami.  Then six more years to James Brown, "maybe we'll beat them by 21?" and then finally 8 or 9 more years.  I actually count beating Michigan in the 2005 Rose Bowl as being completely back to National prominence, as it laid the foundation for the 2006 game.  I strongly believe knowing the scene and all the things about the Rose Bowl helped the team immensely.  

We are most definitely not going into the wilderness x number of years after this year.  We should be back, right away. 

 

I thought that's what the Sugar Bowl last year would do for this year's team. 

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45 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

Sark is a good coach and will continue to win a lot of games here.  In the same breath it's clear some teams/coaches have figured out his offense (which rarely uses the middle of the field).  He at the very least needs to self scout and figure out what he needs to do to fix it, and possibly hand over the offense to someone that can dedicate all their attention to it. 

Quite frankly, he needs an OC. He's trying to juggle watermelons st this point. He has too much talent to make stupid ass decisions. 

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1 minute ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

I thought that's what the Sugar Bowl last year would do for this year's team. 

Well, sort of.  We did make the semis, but we also played 2 games in baxk to back weeks, and the defense had to ensure 97 snaps, and they did their part, but offensively Saek/QE/Milwee/my neighbor went full tard in the last game. 

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10 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Well, sort of.  We did make the semis, but we also played 2 games in baxk to back weeks, and the defense had to ensure 97 snaps, and they did their part, but offensively Saek/QE/Milwee/my neighbor went full tard in the last game. 

I agree, I’m stuck with this vision of, standing ovation, “let me give you the shirt off my back” for the defense. And a “well, that was weird” (reaction from James Caan in Elf) for the offense. Then punching special teams in the dick.

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2 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

So, the reason I think I remember this guy.  Round Rock High School, I'm a freshman in the band, and

Homer Simpson Nerd GIF

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57 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

I agree, I’m stuck with this vision of, standing ovation, “let me give you the shirt off my back” for the defense. And a “well, that was weird” (reaction from James Caan in Elf) for the offense. Then punching special teams in the dick.

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1 hour ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

I thought that's what the Sugar Bowl last year would do for this year's team. 

With a legitimate coaching staff it would have. Greg Davis couldn’t have called worse plays from the fucking 1 yard line. 

Coaches completely failed our players this season.

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13 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

With a legitimate coaching staff it would have. Greg Davis couldn’t have called worse plays from the fucking 1 yard line. 

 

Mad Arthur GIF by MOODMAN

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9 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

How fat would you say someone who spells their name "Geoff" instead of "Jeff" should be? 

I don’t know, but Ketchum at them.

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We heard all offseason last year how the emphasis going into this season by Sark and the offense was going to be red zone offense but somehow we ended up being worse. When the defensive side of the ball says their emphasis on the years they have greatly improved at it. Something is wrong offensively whether it’s personnel or coaching, I’m leaning the latter because results were bad two different years with different personnel. 

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Sarks' offenses seem to work exponentially better with the threat of the deep ball.  Ewers is the worst deep ball thrower I think I've ever seen from a power conference starter at the cfb level.

Manning's skills will hopefully play into Sarks' comfort zone, hopefully that translates to Bama's 2020 offense. 

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9 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

Whichever Walker it is, he definitely flew over the goal line on a regular basis, and don't think we would have any problem recruiting some young man to jump over the line to score TDs. 

The problem is that the modern 6'5 330# defensive tackle can actually jump, too.

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 A statement we've heard about Steve, early and often, is that his play-calling shows no tendencies.

But for the second time at least, we've had defenders from a team we just lost to say "we knew what their plays were gonna be when they showed their formations". That was Captain Jack recently, and a UGa guy after the regular season loss.

Sawyer even added "we knew they like to run that toss sweep there."

Not showing a trend is a trend.

Steve, you're showing yourself to be a damned fine HC.  Quit trying to prove you're still the Man when it comes to the Offense... everybody gets it and everybody agrees. You need to find an OC who can implement your strategies in practice, game planning, and play calling. And you need to not micromanage that person. 

Do it.

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2 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

 A statement we've heard about Steve, early and often, is that his play-calling shows no tendencies.

But for the second time at least, we've had defenders from a team we just lost to say "we knew what their plays were gonna be when they showed their formations". That was Captain Jack recently, and a UGa guy after the regular season loss.

Sawyer even added "we knew they like to run that toss sweep there."

Not showing a trend is a trend.

Steve, you're showing yourself to be a damned fine HC.  Quit trying to prove you're still the Man when it comes to the Offense... everybody gets it and everybody agrees. You need to find an OC who can implement your strategies in practice, game planning, and play calling. And you need to not micromanage that person. 

Do it.

It should also be noted about multiple teams saying we had been tipping plays. I do believe he needs to seek out what kind of offense he wants his team to run and go find the best OC to do said offense or find a guy he is comfortable with calling his offense, is that Milwee? In the time of infinite staff there is no excuses for offense or special teams being what they are. 

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Scatter shot thoughts, observations, questions on Sark:

 

*most of the national guys are split on the toss.  Some say awful call others broke it down and thought it was poor execution

*Sark is our guy.  Don’t waste time or energy on him leaving.  
*why was sarks offense significantly worse than Shanahan’s when he took over for him in Atlanta?  Turnover of personnel , new scheme?

*idk if he needs to give up play call g duties yet.  He seems very attached to it

*with nil, I’m not sure it’s possible to achieve the level of talent he had at bama. Not sure tosu has done that

*would he be my #1 choice if I had a blank slate to hire a hc?  No.  

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1 hour ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

We heard all offseason last year how the emphasis going into this season by Sark and the offense was going to be red zone offense but somehow we ended up being worse. When the defensive side of the ball says their emphasis on the years they have greatly improved at it. Something is wrong offensively whether it’s personnel or coaching, I’m leaning the latter because results were bad two different years with different personnel. 

The focus was scoring more touchdowns in the red-zone so Auburn didn’t attempt a record number of field goals again and improving on 3rd down. The redzone TD % went from worst in the country at around 50% to 65%, which was middle of the pack. Third down conversion rate went from 38% to 43%.

The unforeseen issue was Auburn suddenly becoming one of the worst kickers in the country and Ewers gifting redzone turnovers in several critical games. That really dipped the overall redzone scoring % when the TD rate was actually much improved. Obviously we wish that would have played out Friday night.

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1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Sarks' offenses seem to work exponentially better with the threat of the deep ball.  Ewers is the worst deep ball thrower I think I've ever seen from a power conference starter at the cfb level.

Manning's skills will hopefully play into Sarks' comfort zone, hopefully that translates to Bama's 2020 offense. 

I posted this on the QE thread, I think. My son and I went back and watched every snap Arch got this year. Man, the offense is TOTALLY different with him at QB. Just go watch it if you dare. (I was getting frustrated watching) There were called rollouts. He picks up yards with his feet when the pocket collapses. He throws a catchable deep ball. Next year should be great, I just hope Sark doesn't try and change Arch too much. Just let him do Arch things. I can't wait to see what that looks like. 

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Just now, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

It should also be noted about multiple teams saying we had been tipping plays. I do believe he needs to seek out what kind of offense he wants his team to run and go find the best OC to do said offense or find a guy he is comfortable with calling his offense, is that Milwee? In the time of infinite staff there is no excuses for offense or special teams being what they are. 

 One of the Talking Heads said Texas needs to have an offensive identity. I think that is a correct assessment. We don't need to surprise anybody, just line up and do what we do... whatever that turns out to be. 

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4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

The focus was scoring more touchdowns in the red-zone so Auburn didn’t attempt a record number of field goals again and improving on 3rd down. The redzone TD % went from worst in the country at around 50% to 65%, which was middle of the pack. Third down conversion rate went from 38% to 43%.

The unforeseen issue was Auburn suddenly becoming one of the worst kickers in the country and Ewers gifting redzone turnovers in several critical games. That really dipped the overall redzone scoring % when the TD rate was actually much improved.

Do first half of the season red zone percentages vs back half, it is not pretty. When competition improved vs the best teams we played we were absolutely terrible in the red zone. We regressed as the season went along and ultimately finished two years in a row with red zone failures with a national title trip on the line. 

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