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6 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

brain fart, alot of you dont remember '23 at all if you dont think he can take off

we basically just spent the entire 2H running the ball just to avoid quinn having to even try to throw/not get sacked. what exactly makes you think that he’s right on the verge of “taking off”?

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He has literally already shown he can

When second half started they said Sark wanted to re-establish the run game. I remember this cause he never established it to begin with

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9 minutes ago, RichUT said:

He's not going to take off. He is who he is. His success is largely dependent on the opponent. Those that can contain our screen/horizontal game will make him look average to terrible. Those that can't will make him look good.

But everyone should understand that he is who he is. There is no such thing as good Quinn or bad Quinn. 

The play has to be schemed for him at this point. I wish Michigan Quinn would come back but I don’t think so at this point. He will have to step up and win us a game at some point this yr and idk if he can do it. 
 

whatever. Booty 

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6 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

1st half tally

1 self-sack

2 wide open deep balls overthrown by 5 yards

prognosis: not great, bob

forecast: sark is going to have to pull him again at some point, i'm just glad he already set the precedent against georgia

What are the two “wide open” deep balls that were missed?

What about the multiple drops that killed drives?

The worst throw was the wide open miss to Helm on the sideline. 

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19 minutes ago, RichUT said:

He's not going to take off. He is who he is. His success is largely dependent on the opponent. Those that can contain our screen/horizontal game will make him look average to terrible. Those that can't will make him look good.

But everyone should understand that he is who he is. There is no such thing as good Quinn or bad Quinn. 

i'm not sure about that, we have see some pretty bad Quinns 

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6 minutes ago, Fico said:

What are the two “wide open” deep balls that were missed?

What about the multiple drops that killed drives?

The worst throw was the wide open miss to Helm on the sideline. 

What drops that killed drives? What game did you watch?

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I’m speaking/writing this into existence.  Quinn will be on the money with deep throws versus aggies.  It’s just straight statistics and regression to the mean.  He has thrown 50% too long and somehow, 50% too short.  So statistics will statistic and he will hit a few long bombs in college station.  Math ain’t ever wrong

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

What drops that killed drives? What game did you watch?

He's talking about a badly thrown pass in the second half that was very contested but the receiver touched it. Then I think there was one real drop.  He also evidently didn’t see any missed deep balls in the first half so take what he says with that in mind.  lol 

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Helm had a couple of drops.  If Bolden had caught the ball on the play Ewers got away from a sack, it would have been huge.  The passing game was out of sync all day.  Either Ewers had a bad throw or there was a drop on a catchable ball.

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8 minutes ago, Fico said:

What are the two “wide open” deep balls that were missed?

What about the multiple drops that killed drives?

The worst throw was the wide open miss to Helm on the sideline. 

On the 1st drive, he overthrew Golden who was behind the defense, Would have been a walkin TD.

Another drive he throws a lolly pop late and behind to a wide open streaking Golden, the safety comes over and knocks the ball away.

Another drive he throws a lolly pop fade that is late and flat to Wingo and the DB makes the deflection.

That's 3 TDs right there. 

Just now, kevwun said:

Helm had a couple of drops.  If Bolden had caught the ball on the play Ewers got away from a sack, it would have been huge.  The passing game was out of sync all day.  Either Ewers had a bad throw or there was a drop on a catchable ball.

Helm had one drop, and two balls that were fastballs at his feet he had no hope of catching.

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Seriously, how much more evidence do some of you need. Ole Miss rolled this team with Dart throwing for over 500 yards on like 30 attempts. Texas and Ole Miss both have coaches that run similar concepts.

The reason we are 9-1 is almost 100% because of the defense.

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Y’all are fucking high. There were multiple drops.

Helm had one for sure crossing the middle. I believe Bolden had one and I will go back tomorrow and watch but there were others.

There were bad throws and self sacks, but we consistently make negative run plays worse than they need to be and I don’t think anyone in the WR room would say they played a great game today. 

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1 minute ago, Fico said:

Y’all are fucking high. There were multiple drops.

Helm had one for sure crossing the middle. I believe Bolden had one and I will go back tomorrow and watch but there were others.

There were bad throws and self sacks, but we consistently make negative run plays worse than they need to be and I don’t think anyone in the WR room would say they played a great game today. 

I mean how can they when the QB can't consistently throw the ball where they can make plays on it?

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Seriously, how much more evidence do some of you need. Ole Miss rolled this team with Dart throwing for over 500 yards on like 30 attempts. Texas and Ole Miss both have coaches that run similar concepts.
The reason we are 9-1 is almost 100% because of the defense.

I agree, but now do Tennessee.
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2 minutes ago, Fico said:

Y’all are fucking high. There were multiple drops.

Helm had one for sure crossing the middle. I believe Bolden had one and I will go back tomorrow and watch but there were others.

There were bad throws and self sacks, but we consistently make negative run plays worse than they need to be and I don’t think anyone in the WR room would say they played a great game today. 

There was one drop by Helm in the 1st half and one drop by Bolden in the 2nd half. And I believe we got a 1st down after the Helm drop. Really not sure what you’re referring to.

Quinn was the issue today. It’s not even debatable. He was downright bad

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Tennessee also lot to this team. The transitive property in football doesn’t work. 
 

Helm had more than one drop. The sideline throw to Golden would have to have been a perfect throw. It was a miss but it wasn’t egregious.

The Wingo throw also wasn’t perfect but holy shit the is an opposite hash out route near the sideline. That is a high difficulty NFL throw. 
 

People don’t think he is perfect but the standard you motherfuckers have is so skewed it is wild. 
 

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Y’all are fucking high. There were multiple drops.
Helm had one for sure crossing the middle. I believe Bolden had one and I will go back tomorrow and watch but there were others.
There were bad throws and self sacks, but we consistently make negative run plays worse than they need to be and I don’t think anyone in the WR room would say they played a great game today. 

On the CB blitz where Quinn tripped over his OL (not slipped like some posted, but still an unathletic self-sack to me), did the WR whose CB blitzed not run a hot route? I ask because if so this would be something that has happened repeatedly, and seems simple to fix.
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1 minute ago, Fico said:

Tennessee also lot to this team. The transitive property in football doesn’t work. 
 

Helm had more than one drop. The sideline throw to Golden would have to have been a perfect throw. It was a miss but it wasn’t egregious.

The Wingo throw also wasn’t perfect but holy shit the is an opposite hash out route near the sideline. That is a high difficulty NFL throw. 
 

People don’t think he is perfect but the standard you motherfuckers have is so skewed it is wild. 
 

When did Helm have another drop

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There were at least 5 fucked up blocks that led to zero gain or tackles for a loss too. Inside move for a sack was on the OL, banks let the rush end get back underneath when quinn stepped up. Bond missed a block and helm basically shit the bed blocking twice. Quinn missed 3 throws, two deep and another on a blitz, but it’s hard to say he had a bad game, the game slowed down, ended up being a ball control game, he led Texas on a drive that was much needed to get the distance then he managed the last drive.  At some point no turnovers and the drive when you needed it plus the win on the road against a team that hates our faces has to count for something.

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2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

When did Helm have another drop

Listen, I’m drinking beers and watching other games. I’ll try to rewatch tomorrow once things are on YouTube and I’m not drinking beer. 

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6 minutes ago, scottsins said:


I agree, but now do Tennessee.

I don’t think comparing the offense production to one run by a freshman QB in his fifth start is the point you want to make.

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9 minutes ago, troph said:

There were at least 5 fucked up blocks that led to zero gain or tackles for a loss too. Inside move for a sack was on the OL, banks let the rush end get back underneath when quinn stepped up. Bond missed a block and helm basically shit the bed blocking twice. Quinn missed 3 throws, two deep and another on a blitz, but it’s hard to say he had a bad game, the game slowed down, ended up being a ball control game, he led Texas on a drive that was much needed to get the distance then he managed the last drive.  At some point no turnovers and the drive when you needed it plus the win on the road against a team that hates our faces has to count for something.

It’s that it’s blatantly obvious Sark has to throw out half the playbook because he can’t trust Ewers to throw downfield.  He gives him his chances early and if they keep failing he goes to run, dink and dunk only. It changes the whole game then we play ball control offense, that shouldn’t be the case vs the worst defense in the sec.  

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11 minutes ago, Fico said:

Tennessee also lot to this team. The transitive property in football doesn’t work. 
 

Helm had more than one drop. The sideline throw to Golden would have to have been a perfect throw. It was a miss but it wasn’t egregious.

The Wingo throw also wasn’t perfect but holy shit the is an opposite hash out route near the sideline. That is a high difficulty NFL throw. 
 

People don’t think he is perfect but the standard you motherfuckers have is so skewed it is wild. 
 

Playing Arky is always a weird game. 

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2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

It’s that it’s blatantly obvious Sark has to throw out half the playbook because he can’t trust Ewers to throw downfield.  He gives him his chances early and if they keep failing he goes to run, dink and dunk only. It changes the whole game then we play ball control offense, that shouldn’t be the case vs the worst defense in the sec.  

I didn’t say he was good at the deep ball. Greg McElroy won a title not turning it over and managing the game. QE can do the same. 

but to hyperventilate that QE is dog shit while ignoring a disappearing OL in the run game at times, serious shitty blocking by helm and bond, a few drops, and some fucked up pass protection at least twice just isn’t accurate analysis. 

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3 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Quinn with time is pretty surgical.

I have said Quinn in a clean pocket with an easy 1st read is a stud, but a lot of QBs are good in that world. How QBs handle pressure and respond when their reads are muddied is what separates great QBs from mediocre QBs 

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Honestly…how does a kid who has been playing quarterback this long suck so badly on deep throws? How is that possible?

It has to be mental at this point, right?

You start off sucking at it and then you never improve 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

I didn’t say he was good at the deep ball. Greg McElroy won a title not turning it over and managing the game. QE can do the same. 

but to hyperventilate that QE is dog shit while ignoring a disappearing OL in the run game at times, serious shitty blocking by helm and bond, a few drops, and some fucked up pass protection at least twice just isn’t accurate analysis. 

Greg McElroy had a great run game behind him. Texas doesn’t have that. Texas can not win the SEC with the version of Quinn that showed up in the first half 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

I didn’t say he was good at the deep ball. Greg McElroy won a title not turning it over and managing the game. QE can do the same. 

but to hyperventilate that QE is dog shit while ignoring a disappearing OL in the run game at times, serious shitty blocking by helm and bond, a few drops, and some fucked up pass protection at least twice just isn’t accurate analysis. 

We don't have their running game with our best back being out for the season. Also, college football has changed since then, and you are going to have to put points on the board in the playoffs to advance.

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Just now, Codaxx said:

Greg McElroy had a great run game behind him. Texas doesn’t have that. Texas can not win the SEC with the version of Quinn that showed up in the first half 

 

Just now, HtownHorn said:

We don't have their running game with our best back being out for the season. Also, college football has changed since then, and you are going to have to put points on the board in the playoffs to advance.

The only team that is a clear favorite against Texas is Oregon. Y’all are way overreacting. Shit even the Georgia game was closer than it looked (and QE wasn’t the only poor performer that day).

this is a top 5 team with plenty chances to win the league and the playoffs.

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Greg McElroy had a great run game behind him. Texas doesn’t have that. Texas can not win the SEC with the version of Quinn that showed up in the first half 

4Q Quinn is a winnable formula moving forward. The problem is against one of the worst defenses in our conference he only showed up in the 4Q.

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Baxter was a huge loss and not being able to run inside really hurts the offense.  It's even worse because the only other big backs on the roster were both freshmen.  Ewers biggest issue is his pocket presence.  He just refuses to ever step up in the pocket.  If he can't roll out, the play is over when there is pressure.

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It’s tough for me to see our offense scoring many points in college station. We’ll need our defense to play damn near perfect.

Even tougher to imagine us scoring enough points to beat Bama or Ole Miss or whoever else ends up in the SEC championship game. This feels like a 10-2 regular season team to me

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This defense eats up offenses that are run heavy.  I'm not worried about them scoring a lot especially after Moss got hurt.

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Just now, troph said:

 

The only team that is a clear favorite against Texas is Oregon. Y’all are way overreacting. Shit even the Georgia game was closer than it looked (and QE wasn’t the only poor performer that day).

this is a top 5 team with plenty chances to win the league and the playoffs.

We aren't overreacting. Coming off his best performance of the season and playing the worst passing defense in the conference, he shit the bed for 45 minutes. You do understand that style points are still important. This should have been a 42-10 blowout and not a game where Arkansas had the ball and a chance to take the lead in the 4Q.

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Just now, kevwun said:

Baxter was a huge loss and not being able to run inside really hurts the offense.  It's even worse because the only other big backs on the roster were both freshmen.  Ewers biggest issue is his pocket presence.  He just refuses to ever step up in the pocket.  If he can't roll out, the play is over when there is pressure.

He’s stepped up the last two weeks much better in fact today he stepped up and banks let his man slip back underneath to get the sack.

yes he self sacks yes he isn’t the best in the pocket but our OL in the run game and pass pro just disappears at times.  
 

you liked 4th Qtr QE? I liked 4th Qtr OL. 

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33 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Helm had a couple of drops.  If Bolden had caught the ball on the play Ewers got away from a sack, it would have been huge.  The passing game was out of sync all day.  Either Ewers had a bad throw or there was a drop on a catchable ball.

Helm had one drop. 

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Just now, HtownHorn said:

We aren't overreacting. Coming off his best performance of the season and playing the worst passing defense in the conference, he shit the bed for 45 minutes. You do understand that style points are still important. This should have been a 42-10 blowout and not a game where Arkansas had the ball and a chance to take the lead in the 4Q.

Style points do not matter at this point. Win the conference it doesn’t make a shit. 
 

y’all are over reacting. It’s what this board does. 

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