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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Which would be pretty much every team that makes the playoffs except for big 12 or Boise yeah?

Not really.  Oregon no, BYU no, ND no, Tenn maybe, Uga yes, Bama not really, Ohio state, haven’t watched enough, ACC, no. Pretty much the top of the SEC. Even still Arkansas is large as fuck across the front and has a big grown ass man RB and we held them to one TD drive. Legit.

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31 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Ok what about Florida?

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

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6 minutes ago, troph said:

I think only Oregon but that may be PTSD from last year in Dallas. 

I love this defense. I don’t think it is like that NC Georgia defense, that had high round picks every where. They are one of the best coordinated defenses I have seen. They get turnovers and don’t give up explosives. I just think over the course of what would be 15-16 games, the odds are likely you run into a QB that just plays out of his mind or an OC creates a great game plan. Even The Bama and Georgia NC defenses  needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I love this defense. I don’t think it is like that NC Georgia defense, that had high round picks every where. They are one of the best coordinated defenses I have seen. They get turnovers and don’t give up explosives. I just think over the course of what would be 15-16 games, the odds are likely you run into a QB that just plays out of his mind or an OC creates a great game plan. Even The Bama and Georgia NC defended needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

QE has done that. I actually think he’s got some big games in him left. I could be wrong. I still think no turnovers, 350 total yards can be enough unless DG runs amuck like it’s the state fair and he’s a sooner again. 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

Not really.  Oregon no, BYU no, ND no, Tenn maybe, Uga yes, Bama not really, Ohio state, haven’t watched enough, ACC, no. Pretty much the top of the SEC. Even still Arkansas is large as fuck across the front and has a big grown ass man RB and we held them to one TD drive. Legit.

NDs line bullied A&M. 
 

Oregon has a big line, Tennessee has a big line, Bama has a big line, Ohio state does. 
 

Arkansas line isn’t talented. All the playoff teams outside of big 12 team and Boise will have large offensive lines that are talented. 

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Most of us understand the QB situation and are just venting. Quinn is the starter. 

That said, enough of the pussyfooting and conservative play out on the field. His draft stock is sinking by the hour, his tape since the Michigan game is bad. Get him out of the pocket more and tell him to use his fucking legs and run. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. We have the best backup QB in the country. But if Quinn can be a threat AT ALL on the move, it opens up everything else on offense. 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’re wrong, but you’re allowed to be. Turnover free football and our defense is enough

every single quinn advocate has been shitting all over our running game throughout this thread, yet you same people want to say that we can win a national title on 50 passing yards per quarter?

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3 minutes ago, Derka said:

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

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49 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

"The QB on our 11-1 team in the playoff and SEC championship hunt isn't playing to our standard, we should bail on this season and toss in the inexperienced RS Freshman to get us ready for next year!"

Never change, Surly.

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So you think Quinn can win a championship for Texas?

That's what it boils down to. 

If you do think Quinn can, then he should continue to play. If you don't think he can, then we should play Arch so he has playing time and prep for next season.

Then there's me, it's too late at this point to win a NC with either. Sark already shit the bed not making the change at Georgia. Because my long list prior he can't and sadly this season is most likely a wash. However, I'll smoke Hopium with he Quinn cock gobbling crowd because it's better than nothing. 

I'll also wager I'm one of the few here arguing the point either way that has a hotel room booked and tickets for both the SEC championship and the National Championship.

Edit - Like Sark, Texas and all Longhorn nation, at this point, despite not getting our inside draw on the turn we're pot committed. However, I know my odds and admit them openly.

 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Even The Bama and Georgia NC defended needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

I do think the portal has screwed with offensive continuity.  Defenses may be more apt to dare you to drive the field too and see if you can be patient as well.  The clock rules allow the game to be shortened some.  Ultimately points may be harder to come by.

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

QE has done that. I actually think he’s got some big games in him left. I could be wrong. I still think no turnovers, 350 total yards can be enough unless DG runs amuck like it’s the state fair and he’s a sooner again. 

Before the Vandy game I said the 1st half maybe the most important half of Quinn’s career. I wouldn’t say that about Kentucky, but another ugly 1st half and it will get interesting. That probably means he comes out and looks great in the 1st half vs Kentucky. Just because that is the roller coaster that Quinn is right now 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

NDs line bullied A&M. 
 

Oregon has a big line, Tennessee has a big line, Bama has a big line, Ohio state does. 
 

Arkansas line isn’t talented. All the playoff teams outside of big 12 team and Boise will have large offensive lines that are talented. 

I don’t give a fuck about A&M don’t you aggy roller coaster at all? Their program is born to lose. 
 

Oregon won’t run it SEC style. I already said Tenn and Uga. 
 

so that leaves Bama and Ohio state. 
 

I’ll let you win though, it’s Sunday I’d like to laugh and enjoy it a bit.

so fuck it, bring in arch, Quinn sucks. Do it sark, we know better.

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Just now, troph said:

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

not really. arch was throwing downfield, constantly, and effectively; he was making his reads, stepping up in the pocket, hitting timing routes downfield; he was scrambling for first downs and big gains; he outran UTSA’s entire secondary for a 65 yard TD where he turned around and mocked them at the end. quinn has done none of that. quinn has been consistently underwhelming and needing to be supported by his surrounding cast and coaches. Arch has been a difference maker; quinn has held people back.

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Before the Vandy game I said the 1st half maybe the most important half of Quinn’s career. I wouldn’t say that about Kentucky, but another ugly 1st half and it will get interesting. That probably means he comes out and looks great in the 1st half vs Kentucky. Just because that is the roller coaster that Quinn is right now 

You're not wrong.

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7 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

“I don’t need to prove it”…so clearly JAG who doesn’t know Jack shit just like the rest of us. QBs get replaced mid-season all the time if they’re ineffective. If Arch was showing he was going to be more effective than Ewers at getting Texas to the CFP and national championship, he would be QB1.

You didn't even respond to the points already made before you went ballistic with your fuck you negs. While Vagisil can't cure what ails thee, it might help to ease some of your symptoms ... counselor.

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1 hour ago, Had Enough said:

Exactly how is he better than Sam?  Are you basing that on winning a championship in a mediocre big 12?  

I struggle to directly compare them because the offenses are so different and Sam was forced to play too early. Sam never had a particularly high completion percentage. We were habitual turtlers under Tom, let’s not romanticize the era. One thing you never wondered about at all with sam was his love of the university and his toughness. So maybe from a pure arm talent perspective, QE has an edge, which is pretty fucking important for a QB. But all the intangibles, the running ability, Sam has him. Sam would be better on this team right now because we need a running QB to open things up. 

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17 minutes ago, Derka said:

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

Why do you need Quinn to be Tom Fucking Brady?  Why don't you just need him to play within the system, something Arch arguably can't do yet, and WIN THE FUCKING GAMES?

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Just now, Cairn Horn88 said:

Well, we won’t win one without him.

God damn, why didn't I think of that?!?!

11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

So you think Quinn can win a championship for Texas?

That's what it boils down to. 

If you do think Quinn can, then he should continue to play. If you don't think he can, then we should play Arch so he has playing time and prep for next season.

Then there's me, it's too late at this point to win a NC with either. Sark already shit the bed not making the change at Georgia. Because my long list prior he can't and sadly this season is most likely a wash. However, I'll smoke Hopium with he Quinn cock gobbling crowd because it's better than nothing. 

I'll also wager I'm one of the few here arguing the point either way that has a hotel room booked and tickets for both the SEC championship and the National Championship.

Edit - Like Sark, Texas and all Longhorn nation, at this point, despite not getting our inside draw on the turn we're pot committed. However, I know my odds and admit them openly.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Derka said:

every single quinn advocate has been shitting all over our running game throughout this thread, yet you same people want to say that we can win a national title on 50 passing yards per quarter?

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Same people I am not. I have plenty of faith in our running game, they’re just not getting the early attempts that are vital to getting the D out of their comfortable zone calls for playaction to be effective in first half.

A thousand percent you can win a game with 50 pass yards a quarter. 

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why don't you just need him to play within the system

I would argue our "system" is pretty fucking limited right now because of the quarterback. 

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do you need Quinn to be Tom Fucking Brady?  Why don't you just need him to play within the system, something Arch arguably can't do yet, and WIN THE FUCKING GAMES?

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year. Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. Defend him after a loss at Aggy and say you didn’t see it coming…

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18 minutes ago, troph said:

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

The fact that similar arguments can be made about a RS freshmen and a 3 year starter is wild to think about. Thanks for proving Quinn isn’t It 

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1 minute ago, B00M said:

I struggle to directly compare them because the offenses are so different and Sam was forced to play too early. Sam never had a particularly high completion percentage. We were habitual turtlers under Tom, let’s not romanticize the era. One thing you never wondered about at all with sam was his love of the university and his toughness. So maybe from a pure arm talent perspective, QE has an edge, which is pretty fucking important for a QB. But all the intangibles, the running ability, Sam has him. Sam would be better on this team right now because we need a running QB to open things up. 

You can’t really compare them although those comparisons happen all the time. The environments are completely different.  

People absolutely give Ewers higher marks for his arm but in college you can work around that.  You can easily find many great throws from Sam too.

In my view, the most you can ask of a player is to play as hard as often as you can.  That’s Sam.  His production was damn good too.  The chaos surrounding his teams was off the charts.

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5 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year. Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. Defend him after a loss at Aggy and say you didn’t see it coming…

I would argue that winning is more important than hype.

And yes if he loses to Aggy that changes things. But let's use Aggy, if you're sure Arch gives us a better chance to go into Kyle and beat Aggy you're delusional.

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19 minutes ago, troph said:

I don’t give a fuck about A&M don’t you aggy roller coaster at all? Their program is born to lose. 
 

Oregon won’t run it SEC style. I already said Tenn and Uga. 
 

so that leaves Bama and Ohio state. 
 

I’ll let you win though, it’s Sunday I’d like to laugh and enjoy it a bit.

so fuck it, bring in arch, Quinn sucks. Do it sark, we know better.

You should give a fuck because A&M has a top 3 defensive line in the conference. Holy shit you can’t be this stupid 

 

like holy shit do you watch any other college football? The sec style your talking about isn’t even existed since like 2014. 

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3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year.

Which has jack shit to do with our ability to win games.  That fluff hardware means nothing.  Hey to Vince and Colt.

 

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Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. 

Not my money.  I don't give a fuck.  By the way, Arch is making big money and Sark thinks Quinn is the better choice right now for this attempt at a title.  Excuse me if I don't put a lot of stock in the opinions of a bunch of whiny fans on a football forum.

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1 minute ago, DaysOff said:

This thread is now worse than the conference realignment masturbation fantasy thread that went on for years. Well done idiots.

All you've done is make it worse, congrats.

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The fact is the ship has sailed on making the switch to Arch. I do think Arch would’ve given us the best chance at winning if he had remained the starter from Georgia on. Half a season of reps would’ve been enough to get him ready for the playoff. I don’t think we would’ve seen worse outcomes to this point because let’s be honest, Georgia is the only good team we’ve faced and they pushed us around.

But now, with two games left in the regular season? You have to roll with Quinn. Opportunity missed imo. But I am very afraid that he is going to piss down his leg against aggy. We might win bc of our defense but I’m not expecting much from the O. And I can’t see Quinn leading us to wins against anybody in the playoff outside of a byu or Boise state

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14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do you need Quinn to be Tom Fucking Brady?  Why don't you just need him to play within the system, something Arch arguably can't do yet, and WIN THE FUCKING GAMES?

Wuinn was terrible and Texas lost the against the only team we’ve played with a pulse. what makes you think that we’re going to WIN THE FUCKING GAMES after kentucky and into the playoffs? because i know the answer ain’t quinn.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Which has jack shit to do with our ability to win games.  That fluff hardware means nothing.  Hey to Vince and Colt.

 

Not my money.  I don't give a fuck.  By the way, Arch is making big money and Sark thinks Quinn is the better choice right now for this attempt at a title.  Excuse me if I don't put a lot of stock in the opinions of a bunch of whiny fans on a football forum.

If we lost this game with Quinn’s stat line you would say it was an absolute choke job. The defense is the shit and allows our offense to drag its dick in the mud for loooooong stretches. We can’t throw for 200+ after everyone has lit up Arky through the air. 

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Just now, Derka said:

Wuinn was terrible and Texas lost the against the only team we’ve played with a pulse. what makes you think that we’re going to WIN THE FUCKING GAMES after kentucky and into the playoffs? because i know the answer ain’t quinn.

And Sark is telling you the answer isn't Arch.  How thick are you?  Do you really believe there is some fuckery going on behind the scenes, or that Sark suddenly got stupid?

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1 minute ago, gurt said:

The fact is the ship has sailed on making the switch to Arch. I do think Arch would’ve given us the best chance at winning if he had remained the starter from Georgia on. Half a season of reps would’ve been enough to get him ready for the playoff. I don’t think we would’ve seen worse outcomes to this point because let’s be honest, Georgia is the only good team we’ve faced and they pushed us around.

But now, with two games left in the regular season? You have to roll with Quinn. Opportunity missed imo. But I am very afraid that he is going to piss down his leg against aggy. We might win bc of our defense but I’m not expecting much from the O. And I can’t see Quinn leading us to wins against anybody in the playoff outside of a byu or Boise state

Agree. I hope like hell Quinn turns it around somehow. 

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Just now, Texasborn91 said:

If we lost this game with Quinn’s stat line you would say it was an absolute choke job.

I literally used the word "trash" to describe a stretch of Quinn's play yesterday.

 

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. The defense is the shit and allows our offense to drag its dick in the mud for loooooong stretches. We can’t throw for 200+ after everyone has lit up Arky through the air. 

News flash:  it's a team effort.  Would we be better starting Arch against UK, A&M and whatever follows?  Be honest.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

And Sark is telling you the answer isn't Arch.  How thick are you?  Do you really believe there is some fuckery going on behind the scenes, or that Sark suddenly got stupid?

Sark tells you what he thought when he had to pull Quinn in the UGA game. If Arch scores points you never see Quinn again. 

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I literally used the word "trash" to describe a stretch of Quinn's play yesterday.

 

News flash:  it's a team effort.  Would we be better starting Arch against UK, A&M and whatever follows?  Be honest.

It’s a team game but the QB is the most important position in sports and ours is lacking. Big regression since injury. 
 

honestly if Arch got a whole weeks worth of #1 reps? I think he would out play Quinn vs Kentucky. 

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2 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Sark tells you what he thought when he had to pull Quinn in the UGA game. If Arch scores points you never see Quinn again. 

LMAO you have no fucking idea if that's true.  He put Quinn back in, that's what you saw.

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