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9 hours ago, 52-80 said:

My position is simply that in 2010, in the national championship ship game, Mack Brown pulled Garrett Gilbert basically out of the freezer. 

Arch Manning hasn’t had a real possession since September where he was asked to do anything except hand the ball off. And it would be nice to keep the motor warmed up in case you need to drive that car. 

Most teams don’t play their 2nd string QB throughout the regular season and especially in conference play. Hope that helps.

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11 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Of course. You think she’s in rooms dictating to a college coach of a top 5 blue blood things her husband who played college ball can’t or won’t?  Are you married?  Do you have kids who play sports?

Yes, I think it's possible that an intelligent woman can make decisions regarding her son. My wife is 1000x smarter than I am and can learn any subject that she deems important. I understand what you think you're saying, but you just sound like an asshole. 

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Just catching up after a little vacation but watching the game these are my thoughts.

 

Quinn had a really good first half but his deep ball fucking sucks, we all know. Should have at least 3 wide open touchdowns but shit floaters....

His TD throw to Helm was his best completed throw of the season IMO. His best incomplete throw was the one where he escaped the pocket and the ball was dropped by Bolden. 

I loved what I saw from him before his ankle injury because it seemed like he was on pace to get back to how he was prior to ab injury.

Sark should have definitely taken him out midway through the third after it appeared he was on one leg and could barely move. We were up 24-7 and the game was not in doubt. Just pure stupidity and arrogance by Sark and it would have been good reps for Manning vs a good solid defense just in case.

 

I do like the fight Quinn showed staying in on a bum ankle so I'd rate him as a slight pussy for this game. 

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58 minutes ago, Eggo said:

Yes, I think it's possible that an intelligent woman can make decisions regarding her son. My wife is 1000x smarter than I am and can learn any subject that she deems important. I understand what you think you're saying, but you just sound like an asshole. 

uhh....do you know who you're talking to? lol 

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just catching up after a little vacation but watching the game these are my thoughts.

 

Quinn had a really good first half but his deep ball fucking sucks, we all know. Should have at least 3 wide open touchdowns but shit floaters....

His TD throw to Helm was his best completed throw of the season IMO. His best incomplete throw was the one where he escaped the pocket and the ball was dropped by Bolden. 

I loved what I saw from him before his ankle injury because it seemed like he was on pace to get back to how he was prior to ab injury.

Sark should have definitely taken him out midway through the third after it appeared he was on one leg and could barely move. We were up 24-7 and the game was not in doubt. Just pure stupidity and arrogance by Sark and it would have been good reps for Manning vs a good solid defense just in case.

 

I do like the fight Quinn showed staying in on a bum ankle so I'd rate him as a slight pussy for this game. 

In my opinion his best incompletion was the throw he threaded to the back of the ez from the sideline after escaping the pocket vs Michigan that got called back for holding or the deep ball to Moore up the sideline that he dropped a couple weeks ago. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

In my opinion his best incompletion was the throw he threaded to the back of the ez from the sideline after escaping the pocket vs Michigan that got called back for holding or the deep ball to Moore up the sideline that he dropped a couple weeks ago. 

Those were good but his ball placement and velocity on the Helm TD in the back of the endzone was just perfect spot where only Helm was going to catch it or it's incompletion out the back of the endzone. 

 

From a detail standpoint I did see that Quinn was more fundamentally sound in the 1st half with most of his throws minus a few. The few being that weird fucking all arm throw he does where his feet are parallel with the LOS.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Those were good but his ball placement and velocity on the Helm TD in the back of the endzone was just perfect spot where only Helm was going to catch it or it's incompletion out the back of the endzone. 

 

From a detail standpoint I did see that Quinn was more fundamentally sound in the 1st half with most of his throws minus a few. The few being that weird fucking all arm throw he does where his feet are parallel with the LOS.

He should've been pulled when he got hurt. Didn't like that call from Sark at all. But yeah we kept him pretty clean and he did his thing. The all arm throw is weird. He doesn't step into a lot of his throws. I think that is a function of him trying to take something off it. My daughter does this. She doesn't rotate her torso when she is trying to take something of her vball swing instead of just slowing her arm down. Just like QE not sound at all. 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Those were good but his ball placement and velocity on the Helm TD in the back of the endzone was just perfect spot where only Helm was going to catch it or it's incompletion out the back of the endzone. 

 

From a detail standpoint I did see that Quinn was more fundamentally sound in the 1st half with most of his throws minus a few. The few being that weird fucking all arm throw he does where his feet are parallel with the LOS.

Also the throw to Helm was pretty tits. He feathered it in there nicely. A lot of QBs don't have that in their bag.

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

He should've been pulled when he got hurt. Didn't like that call from Sark at all. But yeah we kept him pretty clean and he did his thing. The all arm throw is weird. He doesn't step into a lot of his throws. I think that is a function of him trying to take something off it. My daughter does this. She doesn't rotate her torso when she is trying to take something of her vball swing instead of just slowing her arm down. Just like QE not sound at all. 

How old is your daughter?

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21 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

He should've been pulled when he got hurt. Didn't like that call from Sark at all. But yeah we kept him pretty clean and he did his thing. The all arm throw is weird. He doesn't step into a lot of his throws. I think that is a function of him trying to take something off it. My daughter does this. She doesn't rotate her torso when she is trying to take something of her vball swing instead of just slowing her arm down. Just like QE not sound at all. 

The all arm thing is why his throws are sailing and floating...it's infuriating to watch. Because other times you'll see him use good mechanics and step into his throws and you see the zip he has. If he can apply that to his deeper passes he would have been able to hit Bond in stride, hit Golden on the wheel route vs Arkansas, or a streaking Wingo for a touchdown. Instead they're floated and gives defenders time to close on receivers and cause incompletions that we ultimately end up bitching should have been PI. Part of that is why I was complaining so much on some of his positive throws like the Moore touchdown vs Vandy.....that shit is rearing it's head and could cost us in big games. 

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6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I think he was looking for a QB. Just in case. 

Our team mascot says, "Well they stay the same age". Dam perverts.

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3 hours ago, Eggo said:

Yes, I think it's possible that an intelligent woman can make decisions regarding her son. My wife is 1000x smarter than I am and can learn any subject that she deems important. I understand what you think you're saying, but you just sound like an asshole. 

1000x smarter huh? Who did you marry. 😅

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If you go back and watch games like Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas…it is astounding how we are about to step on a team’s throat and then we get a holding call that negates a big play or turn the ball over in a way that completely derails our progress.

24-7 vs KY and we have the ball ready to deliver the final blow and then Blue and Ewers fumble on consecutive series. Just unreal.

Once again, we are the best team in the nation. But we just can’t get out of our own damn way. And heading into the game against aggy it just feels like it’s about to catch up with us.

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10 hours ago, Enemy07 said:

You guys enjoy talking about Quinn but what about the main character in the dr. pepper commercials? Yay or nay?

 

10 hours ago, Enemy07 said:

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10 hours ago, Enemy07 said:

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What kind of question is that?  Gee, I don’t know.  Beautiful face, tight figure, looks at least halfway athletic, doesn’t have an annoying voice.. I mean, I guess, if you’re into that sort of thing.  

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Just now, Atticus said:

I think Sark trusted Quinn to execute the offense more than Arch. Greater risk of false starts, illegal formations, protection busts, with Arch in the game. 

And killing clock with the run was what we needed anyway and it was working. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Correct on all but the Golden wheel. That was a really tight window. I give him a pass on that one. The thing that bothers me is all these idiots here that misremember other QBs. Like take Arch for example. He has a lot more shitty throws than people remember whether it be trows into double and triple coverage, late throws, or off target throws. People are actually buying into this Manning Illuminati BS. It's wild to me. I also hate it because when the fanbase starts spreading that stuff it gets back to the QB and affects how things go on the field. No fanbase should understand that more than us. What we did to Simms was criminal and especial since in hindsight Major turned out to be the  shittier human.

Window was massive wtf you mean? If it’s on a rope that’s an easy completion that you see in the league all the time. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Correct on all but the Golden wheel. That was a really tight window. I give him a pass on that one. The thing that bothers me is all these idiots here that misremember other QBs. Like take Arch for example. He has a lot more shitty throws than people remember whether it be trows into double and triple coverage, late throws, or off target throws. People are actually buying into this Manning Illuminati BS. It's wild to me. I also hate it because when the fanbase starts spreading that stuff it gets back to the QB and affects how things go on the field. No fanbase should understand that more than us. What we did to Simms was criminal and especial since in hindsight Major turned out to be the  shittier human.

I agree with overall people being a bit harsh on QE, who will end up being a top 3 QB at Texas in most metrics.

But the rest...

  1. Let's never bring up Simms v. Applewhite again please
  2. Major being a "shitty human" wasn't germane to what was happening in 2000-2001
  3. You're overselling what fans say on an internet message board to how a player plays.
  4. Even if it does affect the player, these are paid pro athletes now.  When you make millions as Texas QB you are going to have to take what goes along with that, which is people saying mean things on the internet about you.
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21 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

who will end up being a top 3 QB at Texas in most metrics.

he’ll have nice numbers when all is said and done, but that will be a product of the fact that our program’s downfield passing history didn’t start until around the turn of the century, plus the fact that QE has been surrounded by the best offensive coaching and playing talent in america for two straight years. if he keeps playing the way he’s been playing and this team doesn’t win it all, then there’s no chance that he’s going to be remembered more fondly than the likes of sam, major, james brown etc. nice statistical career, but if he doesn’t find a way to lead us to the title then there won’t be a ton to remember him for other than showing up overweight and unkempt and then underperforming for three years.

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19 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Window was massive wtf you mean? If it’s on a rope that’s an easy completion that you see in the league all the time. 

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That isn't a massive window. That is a risky throw with a small window.

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Window was massive wtf you mean? If it’s on a rope that’s an easy completion that you see in the league all the time. 

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That's a 30 yard cross field throw with a guy 10 yards away from the receiver and running his way. Even on time he gets lit up at worst. Do the mph math. They don't play 3 safeties in the league. That throw in the league is usually vs cover 2.

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5 minutes ago, Derka said:

he’ll have nice numbers when all is said and done, but that will be a product of the fact that our downfield passing history started around the turn of the century, plus the fact that QE has been surrounded by the best offensive coaching and playing talent in america for two straight years. if he keeps playing the way he’s been playing and this team doesn’t win it all, then there’s no chance that he’s going to be remembered more fondly than the likes of sam, major, james brown etc. nice statistical career, but if he doesn’t find a way to lead us to the title then there’s won’t be a ton to remember him for other than showing up overweight and unkempt and then underperforming for three years.

I'm already more fond of him than those other guys because he did more to change the program in a positive direction. All this other guys had lower expectations coming in. That is the problem with the current fanbase. The got a "perfect" 1.000 recruit and hasn't met their expectations. Just read the posts. He isn't perfect but he is ours and we are going to back to back playoffs with him. Pretty good legacy if you ask me, regardless of expectations being met or not.

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Just now, Longhornlove said:

I'm already more fond of him than those other guys because he did more to change the program in a positive direction.

you’re confusing quinn with sark.

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26 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Correct on all but the Golden wheel. That was a really tight window. I give him a pass on that one. The thing that bothers me is all these idiots here that misremember other QBs. Like take Arch for example. He has a lot more shitty throws than people remember whether it be trows into double and triple coverage, late throws, or off target throws. People are actually buying into this Manning Illuminati BS. It's wild to me. I also hate it because when the fanbase starts spreading that stuff it gets back to the QB and affects how things go on the field. No fanbase should understand that more than us. What we did to Simms was criminal and especial since in hindsight Major turned out to be the  shittier human.

I think you are just over-sensitive on this stuff. Arch misses some throws and reads.  Multiple people have said Quinn is more accurate in the short game. I dont think anyone believes that Arch is not without his risks and issues. I do think many believe he is more likely to progress in those areas, because he only has 2 starts. There is much less hope on Quinn fixing his issues, because he is nearing 40 college starts. 

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30 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Correct on all but the Golden wheel. That was a really tight window. I give him a pass on that one. The thing that bothers me is all these idiots here that misremember other QBs. Like take Arch for example. He has a lot more shitty throws than people remember whether it be trows into double and triple coverage, late throws, or off target throws. People are actually buying into this Manning Illuminati BS. It's wild to me. I also hate it because when the fanbase starts spreading that stuff it gets back to the QB and affects how things go on the field. No fanbase should understand that more than us. What we did to Simms was criminal and especial since in hindsight Major turned out to be the  shittier human.

You're gaslighting. Arch has made some errant throws but not at a noticeably higher rate than Quinn. 

It's weird that you tend to talk shit about Arch. He's done well this year and and has created a lot of big plays in limited action. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Correct on all but the Golden wheel. That was a really tight window. I give him a pass on that one. The thing that bothers me is all these idiots here that misremember other QBs. Like take Arch for example. He has a lot more shitty throws than people remember whether it be trows into double and triple coverage, late throws, or off target throws. People are actually buying into this Manning Illuminati BS. It's wild to me. I also hate it because when the fanbase starts spreading that stuff it gets back to the QB and affects how things go on the field. No fanbase should understand that more than us. What we did to Simms was criminal and especial since in hindsight Major turned out to be the  shittier human.

You realize that you're just as bad as @Derka on this arguement -- you're just on the complete polar opposite side of the spectrum. The answer to the QE question is somewhere in the middle between his take and yours. I tend to lean more Derka's way in that QE has been largely unimpressive for a third-year starter with Heisman aspirations when the season started since returning from his early-season injury. I hope he's good at Kyle Field this week because I've become resigned to the fact Sark isn't considering any alternatives until Quinn simply cannot continue physically. He was good -- not great -- in the first half against Kentucky and then was just bad in the second. Was that entirely due to the ankle injury? I guess that's the likely case -- but if he's that hurt, put in the backup for some really good experience. We were up 24-7 at that point.

Don't get me started on Jaydon Blue -- I can't remember the last time I saw a RB that had such bad fumble-itis. I feel pretty confident in saying that was probably a fumble when he scored the TD.

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2 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

If you go back and watch games like Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas…it is astounding how we are about to step on a team’s throat and then we get a holding call that negates a big play or turn the ball over in a way that completely derails our progress.

24-7 vs KY and we have the ball ready to deliver the final blow and then Blue and Ewers fumble on consecutive series. Just unreal.

Once again, we are the best team in the nation. But we just can’t get out of our own damn way. And heading into the game against aggy it just feels like it’s about to catch up with us.

Us stepping on our own toes is the reason that we aren’t blowing teams out with 4+ score margins like 2020 Bama. We aren’t skating by on 2 minute drills and walk off field goals like people seem to think we are. We had 5 fumbles a scope and score and a muffed punt vs Kentucky, that’s the very definition of shitting the bed and we still won by 3 scores.

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15 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

No I'm not. Pay attention.

what has quinn led us to? over the last two seasons he’s been one of our worst, least dependable offensive players. he’s on the very short list of worst offensive starters on team this year. just because he’s the QB doesn’t mean that he’s leading the team or that he’s responsible for our team’s accomplishments. sark has turned this program around, not quinn. in fact he’s turned this program around in spite of quinn and his routinely underwhelming performances.

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One factor in Quinn's favor going into B/CS is even though he hasn't played there either, he did go into Tuscaloosa and help beat the brakes off a very good Alabama team.  His ability to respond in a hostile road environment is not wholly unknown.  For Arch, it is definitely unknown.

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