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6 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Not one time have I said the stats tell the whole story.  And many times I put them out there for informational purposes.

I know we don’t talk about this shit but as a youth thru high school - participated in 4 varsity sports, two way starter, two year starter basketball, on the relays.  QB. And I wasn’t some passive S sitting 15 yards off the ball on defense. Now, I am old, bitter dude that’s reflected on successes and failures. That’s watched as a parent, youth coach, observant fan.  4A to 6A. Have seen 4 and 5 star players competing not just in those sports but others and from a reasonably close view.  I’ve seen my high school produce an NFL QB, a state player of the year. Girl sports, boy sports.  I was not a casual participant.  I’m not a casual fan.  I watch your Longhorns live and in person.  Then I watch the recording. I was in position athletically to see how impactful failures can be on a personal athletic achievement level because of successes.  So when you think I’m a dumbass, when you think I’m full of it, know that’s the backdrop and there’s a hint of that in every post.  Even those that include the stats.
 

I know your kid plays some volleyball. I believe you played some football.  Maybe you played it much longer than I did.  Maybe your experiences are more unique and varied.

I haven’t put a cap on your boy Quinn.  I don’t give a general damn that his balls get knocked down occasionally.  I don’t care that his footwork isn’t perfect. I don’t care that he can “make all the throws.”  I don’t believe his deep ball is as bad as most make it out.  I don’t believe his intermediate ball is as good people make it, which doesn’t mean he’s not capable.  Whatever results he’s produced to date don’t matter.  What matters most is that he has the opportunity.  He needs consistency of effort.  Repeat the good more often; the bad less often.  

I do not think you are a dumb ass at all. It is clear you approach the game with experience. I can see that in your posts. I just think that some people are over-reliant on statistics. Even some really good coaches get caught up in the analytics sometimes.

I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.

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11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll take your word for it.  I don't recall either, but I don't read every post.

 

OK, I laughed.

I haven't moved any goalposts.  I wouldn't give sole credit to any player, ever.  Even VY.

Lol I didnt say it was you and I was simply trying to point out the reason for the vitriol in this thread. You asked me to name names and I did. Then you said quote one, and I know youve seen the hero worship.

So... trying to point out the vitriol in this thread has lead to yet more pointless debate. 

So my effort was a waste of time and I should know better... that's on me. 

Carry on! 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I do not think you are a dumb ass at all. It is clear you approach the game with experience. I can see that in your posts. I just think that some people are over-reliant on statistics. Even some really good coaches get caught up in the analytics sometimes.

I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.

If everyone agreed about everything this place would suck.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Really?

 

Sigh... that's not what I was referring too. You're right, I'm wrong. Everything I say is stupid or made up. I'm sorry for existing and send my regards. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Red Five said:


I’m telling you, we don’t do mediocre well at QB. Take Jake Majors, or Jerrin Thompson, or Gbenda. Adequate college players. Drafted late or not at all. Could make an NFL roster, or maybe not. We don’t fight about them.

But Ewers is a QB, and we put those into two categories: Legends, and absolute fucking garbage who we will piss on for eternity. The legends are easy (VY, Colt) as are the others (Gilbert, Swoopes).

The ones in the middle are where the fights happen. Chris Simms, Sam Ehlinger, Quinn Ewers.

I won't stand for the Sam Ehlinger blasphemy. Sam was universally loved except for some brain broken idiots who just hate him for no reason. He was an OU CCG game away from making the CFP in 2018 and there's a real chance they win the whole thing if they go. They absolutely fucking murdered Georgia. 

50 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I agree with you but cannot abide this Sam Ehlinger erasure. 

Although Sam's tenure more or less proves your point. As soon as we even got a decent QB like Sam, we started winning games again. Despite having a mental midget for a coach. 

Sam actually played for a dogshit team with a dogshit coach and still came out with the "decent" reviews because he way overperformed and is still on a roster now (Denver). He doesn't suck and has outlasted a lot of other people who were drafted and are just not on rosters. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Drew said:

How the fuck has this thread grown 10 pages since sunday, if not more...and this many since the end of the draft. Jesus.

If the Quinn Ewers thread keeps opening up on your computer and forcing you to post on it, try shutting down and restarting your system. That should clear up the problem. If not, your computer may have a virus. 

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Derka said:

when lots and lots and lots of people repeatedly say, “quinn led us to back to back playoffs” and “quinn turned this program around” without ever giving credit to sark, pk, choice, bijan, sweat, barron, murphy, worthy, whitt, AD, etc, you can see how it would feel to a lot of people like QE is being singlehandedly given credit for everything good that Texas has done.

then, when you have thatguy, who posts as if his family is being held hostage and will be killed if he even so much as admits that QE has any flaws or shortcomings, or that any lack of success for our team was in any way QE’s fault, plus a ton of people pos repping (aka co-signing) these posts, it only adds to the feeling that a ton of people give QE sole credit for UT Football’s resurgence. i mean the guy’s cult following started when he was 16 and committed to Texas the first time. these people have been insanely invested for years and years. he is their chosen one.

so, while i don’t think anyone has out and out said that QE did it all by himself, a ton of people have gone out of their way to credit QE for “turning around the program” without ever acknowledging his enormous supporting cast, pretty much all of whom were more responsible for turning this program around than QE. you read this same stuff day after day for months, and it definitely starts to feel like people think that QE did for his team’s what VY and Colt did for theirs.

Dude-

Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Dude-

Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.

Nah dude. This ain't it. Fucking drafted 12. That's more than 50% of the starters. 

Juan would have started nearly everywhere fucking else too, the fuck is this sideswipe about? 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, immamac said:

Nah dude. This ain't it. Fucking drafted 12. That's more than 50% of the starters. 

Juan would have started nearly everywhere fucking else too, the fuck is this sideswipe about? 

Yes, we've had talent.  Lots of it.  We had the 3rd most players drafted in 2024, and 2nd in 2025.  Tops overall for those two years.  The point is, we're not the only team with elite talent.  Two of them knocked us out of the playoffs.  (We should also note that Brooks missed the final 4 games of his career.)

I don't really understand why so many of you struggle with shades of grey.  It's quite astonishing. 

Posted
3 hours ago, immamac said:

I won't stand for the Sam Ehlinger blasphemy. Sam was universally loved except for some brain broken idiots who just hate him for no reason. He was an OU CCG game away from making the CFP in 2018 and there's a real chance they win the whole thing if they go. They absolutely fucking murdered Georgia. 

Sam actually played for a dogshit team with a dogshit coach and still came out with the "decent" reviews because he way overperformed and is still on a roster now (Denver). He doesn't suck and has outlasted a lot of other people who were drafted and are just not on rosters. 

Ehlinger played with a lot of heart, we all saw it. Ewers didn't quite have that.

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