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6 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Not one time have I said the stats tell the whole story.  And many times I put them out there for informational purposes.

I know we don’t talk about this shit but as a youth thru high school - participated in 4 varsity sports, two way starter, two year starter basketball, on the relays.  QB. And I wasn’t some passive S sitting 15 yards off the ball on defense. Now, I am old, bitter dude that’s reflected on successes and failures. That’s watched as a parent, youth coach, observant fan.  4A to 6A. Have seen 4 and 5 star players competing not just in those sports but others and from a reasonably close view.  I’ve seen my high school produce an NFL QB, a state player of the year. Girl sports, boy sports.  I was not a casual participant.  I’m not a casual fan.  I watch your Longhorns live and in person.  Then I watch the recording. I was in position athletically to see how impactful failures can be on a personal athletic achievement level because of successes.  So when you think I’m a dumbass, when you think I’m full of it, know that’s the backdrop and there’s a hint of that in every post.  Even those that include the stats.
 

I know your kid plays some volleyball. I believe you played some football.  Maybe you played it much longer than I did.  Maybe your experiences are more unique and varied.

I haven’t put a cap on your boy Quinn.  I don’t give a general damn that his balls get knocked down occasionally.  I don’t care that his footwork isn’t perfect. I don’t care that he can “make all the throws.”  I don’t believe his deep ball is as bad as most make it out.  I don’t believe his intermediate ball is as good people make it, which doesn’t mean he’s not capable.  Whatever results he’s produced to date don’t matter.  What matters most is that he has the opportunity.  He needs consistency of effort.  Repeat the good more often; the bad less often.  

I do not think you are a dumb ass at all. It is clear you approach the game with experience. I can see that in your posts. I just think that some people are over-reliant on statistics. Even some really good coaches get caught up in the analytics sometimes.

I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.

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11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll take your word for it.  I don't recall either, but I don't read every post.

 

OK, I laughed.

I haven't moved any goalposts.  I wouldn't give sole credit to any player, ever.  Even VY.

Lol I didnt say it was you and I was simply trying to point out the reason for the vitriol in this thread. You asked me to name names and I did. Then you said quote one, and I know youve seen the hero worship.

So... trying to point out the vitriol in this thread has lead to yet more pointless debate. 

So my effort was a waste of time and I should know better... that's on me. 

Carry on! 

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10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I do not think you are a dumb ass at all. It is clear you approach the game with experience. I can see that in your posts. I just think that some people are over-reliant on statistics. Even some really good coaches get caught up in the analytics sometimes.

I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.

If everyone agreed about everything this place would suck.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Really?

 

Sigh... that's not what I was referring too. You're right, I'm wrong. Everything I say is stupid or made up. I'm sorry for existing and send my regards. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Red Five said:


I’m telling you, we don’t do mediocre well at QB. Take Jake Majors, or Jerrin Thompson, or Gbenda. Adequate college players. Drafted late or not at all. Could make an NFL roster, or maybe not. We don’t fight about them.

But Ewers is a QB, and we put those into two categories: Legends, and absolute fucking garbage who we will piss on for eternity. The legends are easy (VY, Colt) as are the others (Gilbert, Swoopes).

The ones in the middle are where the fights happen. Chris Simms, Sam Ehlinger, Quinn Ewers.

I won't stand for the Sam Ehlinger blasphemy. Sam was universally loved except for some brain broken idiots who just hate him for no reason. He was an OU CCG game away from making the CFP in 2018 and there's a real chance they win the whole thing if they go. They absolutely fucking murdered Georgia. 

50 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I agree with you but cannot abide this Sam Ehlinger erasure. 

Although Sam's tenure more or less proves your point. As soon as we even got a decent QB like Sam, we started winning games again. Despite having a mental midget for a coach. 

Sam actually played for a dogshit team with a dogshit coach and still came out with the "decent" reviews because he way overperformed and is still on a roster now (Denver). He doesn't suck and has outlasted a lot of other people who were drafted and are just not on rosters. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Drew said:

How the fuck has this thread grown 10 pages since sunday, if not more...and this many since the end of the draft. Jesus.

If the Quinn Ewers thread keeps opening up on your computer and forcing you to post on it, try shutting down and restarting your system. That should clear up the problem. If not, your computer may have a virus. 

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Derka said:

when lots and lots and lots of people repeatedly say, “quinn led us to back to back playoffs” and “quinn turned this program around” without ever giving credit to sark, pk, choice, bijan, sweat, barron, murphy, worthy, whitt, AD, etc, you can see how it would feel to a lot of people like QE is being singlehandedly given credit for everything good that Texas has done.

then, when you have thatguy, who posts as if his family is being held hostage and will be killed if he even so much as admits that QE has any flaws or shortcomings, or that any lack of success for our team was in any way QE’s fault, plus a ton of people pos repping (aka co-signing) these posts, it only adds to the feeling that a ton of people give QE sole credit for UT Football’s resurgence. i mean the guy’s cult following started when he was 16 and committed to Texas the first time. these people have been insanely invested for years and years. he is their chosen one.

so, while i don’t think anyone has out and out said that QE did it all by himself, a ton of people have gone out of their way to credit QE for “turning around the program” without ever acknowledging his enormous supporting cast, pretty much all of whom were more responsible for turning this program around than QE. you read this same stuff day after day for months, and it definitely starts to feel like people think that QE did for his team’s what VY and Colt did for theirs.

Dude-

Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Dude-

Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.

Nah dude. This ain't it. Fucking drafted 12. That's more than 50% of the starters. 

Juan would have started nearly everywhere fucking else too, the fuck is this sideswipe about? 

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48 minutes ago, immamac said:

Nah dude. This ain't it. Fucking drafted 12. That's more than 50% of the starters. 

Juan would have started nearly everywhere fucking else too, the fuck is this sideswipe about? 

Yes, we've had talent.  Lots of it.  We had the 3rd most players drafted in 2024, and 2nd in 2025.  Tops overall for those two years.  The point is, we're not the only team with elite talent.  Two of them knocked us out of the playoffs.  (We should also note that Brooks missed the final 4 games of his career.)

I don't really understand why so many of you struggle with shades of grey.  It's quite astonishing. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, immamac said:

I won't stand for the Sam Ehlinger blasphemy. Sam was universally loved except for some brain broken idiots who just hate him for no reason. He was an OU CCG game away from making the CFP in 2018 and there's a real chance they win the whole thing if they go. They absolutely fucking murdered Georgia. 

Sam actually played for a dogshit team with a dogshit coach and still came out with the "decent" reviews because he way overperformed and is still on a roster now (Denver). He doesn't suck and has outlasted a lot of other people who were drafted and are just not on rosters. 

Ehlinger played with a lot of heart, we all saw it. Ewers didn't quite have that.

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

Dude-

Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.

Your Ohio State example is ass. They had 14 players drafted in 2025 and won the title. Nobody is saying they won because Will Howard came. Yet you keep saying Texas got to the semis because of Quinn.

“Stability at quarterback” is horseshit when you have over a dozen players drafted. OSU had a different QB last year, had only 4 players drafted, and didn’t even make the CFP in 2024. All the talent around Will Howard made a difference to win a title in 2025.

Posted
3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

I do    think you are a dumb ass.

 

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.

Damn.  Harsh.

And just when I think I couldn’t you love you guys anymore you go and warm my heart.

It’s like family.  You piss me off then some stupid comment shows that redeeming quality in some of you.  I am genuinely curious about peoples experiences and how it ties into their understanding of the game and try to dig it out but people like their anonymity.  We need @WinningIsHard back.

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Ehlinger played with a lot of heart, we all saw it. Ewers didn't quite have that.

I love your posts but that is untrue. Quinn has lots of heart. 

Posted
5 hours ago, mwaadeeb said:

Does anyone think Arch Manning would have come to Texas if we had some other golden boy with years of eligibility at QB? Or if Quinn was a jackass? People don't give Ewers the credit he deserves for handling that with such grace and relaxation.

From what I understood, Arch did want to sit and not be rushed on to the field so it was helpful to not have uncertainty to get him here.  From all I gather, team is important so anyone above that is just biding their time.  So I’d give them all credit.  Meaning the team not just the QBs.

Personally, I find it difficult to single any player out for recruiting.  I’d assume our culture is a big part of the draw.  I’d also assume there were a number of guys that were at the forefront of that culture.  And it can’t just be one guy.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, immamac said:

 

Juan would have started nearly everywhere fucking else too

This is the good stuff.  I’ll support it.  
 

From a distance, this is the type of guy that commands respect.  Nose down.  Stick with it.  And finish the job. No extra fandom.  Limited play time til this year.  That’s kicking ass. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

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It's a mystery to me. 😉

Those two are on a Teams call, watching each other masturbate as they post on this thread. 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

This is the good stuff.  I’ll support it.  
 

From a distance, this is the type of guy that commands respect.  Nose down.  Stick with it.  And finish the job. No extra fandom.  Limited play time til this year.  That’s kicking ass. 

The type of guy who will be very successful in whatever line of work they decide to go in. 

Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I love your posts but that is untrue. Quinn has lots of heart. 

I just think of ewers as an awkward introvert. You see it in all of his interviews and the most non awkward interview he had was with Gruden. He may have a touch of the ass burgers. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I just think of ewers as an awkward introvert. You see it in all of his interviews and the most non awkward interview he had was with Gruden. He may have a touch of the ass burgers. 

I'm embarrassed for myself that I have willingly chosen to share the same communication forum with you. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yes, we've had talent.  Lots of it.  We had the 3rd most players drafted in 2024, and 2nd in 2025.  Tops overall for those two years.  The point is, we're not the only team with elite talent.  Two of them knocked us out of the playoffs.  (We should also note that Brooks missed the final 4 games of his career.)

I don't really understand why so many of you struggle with shades of grey.  It's quite astonishing. 

Yeah anyone trying to point out shades of grey between the haters and shades of grey opinions is just fucking idiotic.

Posted
37 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:


QE took us to playoffs TWICE. /respect

Quinn may have had some help in those efforts. 

Quinn might also have greatly contributed to ending the run to a championship both those years. 

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him.

when that dude posted an expert who corrected me i said, “well he would know better than me” and i conceded the point, something you are literally incapable of. watching you dunk on yourself while trying to dunk on me is hilarious. here’s you hitting ‘send’ on that post:

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also, as i said in that very post, it’s impossible to give QE the benefit of the doubt considering his comically terrible footwork and consistently inaccurate throws. but don’t let that stop you from fellating the most underachieving qb we’ve ever had while patting yourself on the back for doing so. 

Posted
2 hours ago, MrBig said:

Your Ohio State example is ass. They had 14 players drafted in 2025 and won the title. Nobody is saying they won because Will Howard came. Yet you keep saying Texas got to the semis because of Quinn.

“Stability at quarterback” is horseshit when you have over a dozen players drafted. OSU had a different QB last year, had only 4 players drafted, and didn’t even make the CFP in 2024. All the talent around Will Howard made a difference to win a title in 2025.

Ohio State has been winning consistently for seemingly ever. What in the fuck are you even talking about? We haven't been this good since 2009. Ohio State has more than 60 players in the league. They've had one losing season since 1988. 19 fucking 88. Meanwhile we just came off a stretch where we were irrelevant for 14 years Big. Let's not try to make it like the two things are ever comparable.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Derka said:

when that dude posted an expert who corrected me i said, “well he would know better than me” and i conceded the point, something you are literally incapable of. watching you dunk on yourself while trying to dunk on me is hilarious. here’s you hitting ‘send’ on that post:

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I told you the same thing the expert did but the difference is you cannot allow yourself to be schooled by someone you feel you are superior than. Even now. Even though you don't even know what you don't know, you are still being dismissive of someone even though you are being outclassed in the conversation.

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9 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I told you the same thing the expert did but the difference is you cannot allow yourself to be schooled by someone you feel you are superior than. Even now. Even though you don't even know what you don't know, you are still being dismissive of someone even though you are being outclassed in the conversation.

you’re the only one of us who sees this as a competition. your desire to “win” is a big part of what makes you so unable to be objective or admit that you’re ever wrong.

oh, and if i missed you saying the same thing that jt o’sullivan said it’s because i immediately skip over every single interminable word salad that you post the moment i read a personal insult towards me. incidentally i end up not reading 90% of what you type.

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Posted
2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yes, we've had talent.  Lots of it.  We had the 3rd most players drafted in 2024, and 2nd in 2025.  Tops overall for those two years.  The point is, we're not the only team with elite talent.  Two of them knocked us out of the playoffs.  (We should also note that Brooks missed the final 4 games of his career.)

I don't really understand why so many of you struggle with shades of grey.  It's quite astonishing. 

Texas is in a different category of talent. 

Posted
11 hours ago, immamac said:

Its actually hilarious that there's so much film on this guy and you guys have seen most if not all of it repeatedly and you still haven't come to a consensus because of emotional garbage or who knows what. 

Quinn Ewers was painfully adequate. That's the enigma here. 

He was obviously an elite talent, who has head scratching mediocre film for a substantial amount of his career. 

He also has a pretty crazy highlight reel that is easily top 5 every season he played. Dude makes insane throws and had incredible touch. 

He also had complete shitfest games that are inexcusable at his level or for an NFL caliber player. Think OK State + Georgia reg season

Everyone has arguments that are correct on aspects or portions of his body of work, but Quinn as the complete body of work is just Painfully Adequate. 

Agreed, but it is extremely unfair & out of line (IMO) to call him a “bum” like some have here. 
He’s been a damn good representative for the Texas Longhorn program and does not deserve such vitriol. 
Save that crap for the Johnny Foosballs.

Posted
1 minute ago, Derka said:

you’re the only one of us who sees this as a competition. your desire to “win” is a big part of what makes you so unable to be objective or admit that you’re ever wrong.

Only one of us argues everywhere they go on the board and that person is not me.

Posted
1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Only one of us argues everywhere they go on the board and that person is not me.

you don’t know anything about my posts outside of this thread and you’re literally starting a new argument right now.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Derka said:

you don’t know anything about my posts outside of this thread and you’re literally starting a new argument right now.

Just because I don't post places doesn't mean I don't read them.

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Just because I don't post places doesn't mean I don't read them.

lmao, yesterday you were talking a whole bunch of shit about me ducking you, failing to “post receipts”, and failing to “answer your question”, and when i said, “what the hell are you even talking about? you are confusing me with someone else” you didn’t have anything to say for the first time in your life you incendiary dumbass. you’ve been nothing but combative and insulting this entire thread, and yet you’re really going to convince yourself that that’s not true, that it’s everyone else.

well now you can feel free to go ahead and post the receipts to back up what you’re saying. go ahead and link me to some of these insane arguments you see me making everywhere. oh and feel free to wander over to the hoops and baseball boards where 95% of my posts are and ask them how often i’m just starting dumbass arguments like the ones you do all over this thread. “i read the other boards” he says. lol. fuck outta here.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Derka said:

lmao, yesterday you were talking a whole bunch of shit about me ducking you, failing to “post receipts”, and failing to “answer your question”, and when i said, “what the hell are you even talking about? you are confusing me with someone else” you didn’t have anything to say for the first time in your life you incendiary dumbass. you’ve been nothing but combative and insulting this entire thread, and yet you’re really going to convince yourself that that’s not true, that it’s everyone else.

well now you can feel free to go ahead and post the receipts to back up what you’re saying. go ahead and link to me to some of these insane arguments you see me making everywhere. oh and feel free to wander over to the hoops and baseball boards where 95% of my posts are and ask them how often i’m just starting dumbass arguments like the ones you do all over this thread. “i read the other boards” he says. lol. fuck outta here.

You made a comment about Quin's completion percentage. I cornered you on it and you continued to duck the question. I am not the receipts guy. That is JimmyJazz. You argue with so many people you can't even keep your opponents straight. Again, only one of us has had timeouts(multiple) for lighting the forum on fire, and that person is not me. I am only an asshole on this board. I am quite agreeable on others. BTW I have advocated for you on multiple occasions just so you know.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Deej said:

Those two are on a Teams call, watching each other masturbate as they post on this thread. 

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Bonus Swear Trek gif, because I've never had a good opportunity to use it and it deserves to be seen:

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2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

I'm embarrassed for myself that I have willingly chosen to share the same communication forum with you. 

you need to learn how to use the Ignore feature

Posted
2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

You made a comment about Quin's completion percentage.

no i didn’t. how are you STILL confusing me with someone else? jesus christ man.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I cornered you on it and you continued to duck the question.

yeah you’re *totally* the guy here who’s interested in having a real discussion and not trying to “win” the argument. jesus christ guy, is there no limit to how far you’ll go to embarrass yourself over and over and over in this thread?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Derka said:

no i didn’t. how are you STILL confusing me with someone else? jesus christ man.

 

On 5/12/2025 at 10:49 PM, Derka said:

your completion percentage is going to be higher when the majority of your throws are your first read which is right near/behind the LOS, and yet…

it's honestly incredible, your entire posting history of making excuses for every single area where QE lacks. never his fault. always someone else’s fault. fascinating.

Here you go. Again, you are arguing with so many people you can't keep things straight. That response was to me btw

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