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Been screwing around more and more with AI agents. Basic training classes that mainly demonstrate the potential. I know we mostly hear hype regarding them but they're the real deal. As soon as more major software packages and email systems embrace them, corp America is going be transformed. Given that I've never known a VP or CFO to not want to lower headcount/cost, they will quickly grab onto tech that will increase productivity per worker.

If someone's main role is working with transactions and/or dealing with customers via email/chat, start learning a new skill ASAP.

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I asked ChatGPT how much they were losing...

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So, how long is this sustainable?   

How long before it becomes 100% subscription or it turns into google and the answers are designed to drive you to some advertiser that pays the most?

 

 

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OpenAI could easily start to price their non-base ChatGPT models at a per transaction (token) level. that's how it works with agents. You can set it up to auto-refill your balance, along with a monthly maximums.

Heavy ChatGPT users will complain. However if their ChatGPT usage is creating a work product, tough that their workforce will cost them more than $200 per month. 

not to mention that OpenAI can keep going back to the private markets to raise more funds. I imagine that we won't see OpenAI come close to an IPO until they're out of their heavy growth phases. The IPO era is over but that's a separate topic.

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3 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

I asked ChatGPT how much they were losing...

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So, how long is this sustainable?   

How long before it becomes 100% subscription or it turns into google and the answers are designed to drive you to some advertiser that pays the most?

 

 

This is sustainable so long as we allow grifters to dominate our economy.  This is nothing new, as we've been gobbling up shitty tech for decades now with little to show for it outside of PE jags laughing all the way to the bank.   Profitability?  What does that have to do with anything anymore?

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I don't know if Mechanize is just an ambitious startup looking to make splashy headlines and get VC investments, or if there is actually some credibility to their goal of automating all jobs. Even if they fail, the idea of this happening has always been there and someone will always be trying to accomplish this unless society has the proper guardrails in place. Currently, the leadership of our country and China puts that in doubt.

Brisket loves a doom and gloom scenario but I think he's absolutely right to be concerned about this. We can't simply ignore it or write it off as science fiction, then cry about it in 10, 20, 50 years when it actually happens. If a company in the U.S. (or anywhere) has a stated goal of replacing all human jobs, that is obviously quite problematic for the future of the human race. Even if they are only 75% successful in the end, that's an incredibly different world to live in and probably not for the better.

I think with all disruptive technologies, there should be a type of hurricane forecast model that shows the most likely path as well as the extremes on either side. The best case scenario for AI is that it solves some complex problems like developing cures for cancer without too much collateral damage along the way. The worst case scenario for AI is quite terrible, and if we leave it up to the companies developing it to set their own rules, there will eventually be bad actors that will capitalize on the worst of what the technology is capable of. You could argue that there are currently more bad actors than good actors. There are more people motivated by greed, power, and personal glory than there are people motivated to cure cancer and solve the world's problems.

I fear that even in the best case scenario, we will have a future in which the human experience is significantly dulled as a result of pervasive AI. We will lose a lot of our critical thinking capabilities and our creativity. It will be far easier to ask AI to do things for us than to actually attempt to solve our own problems. It will be far easier to ask AI to write a story or compose music or paint a picture than it will be for a human to do it independently. There are already people in this thread saying they use AI to create recipes from their pantry. I'm not judging, but that could become the norm for future generations and people will have a significantly reduced ability to do a lot of the things that makes us human. People will get used to seeing AI generated content on social media that surpasses what they actually experience in real life, which could make the real world less exciting and spectacular.

The internet revolution is probably the best comparison, but there are a ton of negatives for society that people weren't dealing with 30 years ago. Social media is about 90% detrimental to society. Jobs have not been entirely eliminated by the internet, but many sectors were eliminated or significantly reduced. New jobs have been created, so that's a positive. The human experience, IMO, is generally worse by the fact that we are constantly staring at screens instead of doing things with other people.

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1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:

Brisket loves a doom and gloom scenario but I think he's absolutely right to be concerned about this. We can't simply ignore it or write it off as science fiction, then cry about it in 10, 20, 50 years when it actually happens.

I have a friend who has a real-estate company in the Austin area (she's got a franchise or however that works).  She can easily see the parent company, who already has a bunch of developers working on adding AI to all of their tools/websites, doing away with franchises, and just having a main corporate office, and a handful of employees in each city who handle any face-to-face stuff that's needed (final walk-throughs, etc.).  She said there is so much in the real estate industry that could be automated on the financial side (planning, mortgage work, etc.) or done online remotely (and some already is) and the research side.

That's a whole helluva lot of people who might go to D.C. in the future and try and stage an insurrection.

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16 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The US Senate has voted overwhelmingly to remove a moratorium on states regulating AI systems from the Republican “big, beautiful bill.” Legislators agreed by a margin of 99 to 1to drop the controversial proposal during a protracted fight over the omnibus budget bill, which is still under debate.
 

https://www.theverge.com/politics/695495/senate-drops-ai-moratorium-budget-bill

Thom Tillis, the NC senator who just announced he's quitting, was the sole 'nay' vote. Weird.

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16 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I have a friend who has a real-estate company in the Austin area (she's got a franchise or however that works).  She can easily see the parent company, who already has a bunch of developers working on adding AI to all of their tools/websites, doing away with franchises, and just having a main corporate office, and a handful of employees in each city who handle any face-to-face stuff that's needed (final walk-throughs, etc.).  She said there is so much in the real estate industry that could be automated on the financial side (planning, mortgage work, etc.) or done online remotely (and some already is) and the research side.

That's a whole helluva lot of people who might go to D.C. in the future and try and stage an insurrection.

I saw some guy talking on TV about how there was a blue collar uprising that ushered in the Trump era. He then went on to say that because of AI, the next uprising will be white collar due to AI job displacement.  

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2 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I saw some guy talking on TV about how there was a blue collar uprising that ushered in the Trump era. He then went on to say that because of AI, the next uprising will be white collar due to AI job displacement.  

I wouldn't worry.  We'll just find a way to blame mexicans for AI, too.

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4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I saw some guy talking on TV about how there was a blue collar uprising that ushered in the Trump era. He then went on to say that because of AI, the next uprising will be white collar due to AI job displacement.  

White collar uprisings, historically speaking, are what we more commonly refer to as actual revolutions.  The idiots in charge, along with the tech bro asswipes, should be doing everything they can to steer away from that situation.  It hasn't ended well for their kind in the past. 

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22 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

This is sustainable so long as we allow grifters to dominate our economy.  This is nothing new, as we've been gobbling up shitty tech for decades now with little to show for it outside of PE jags laughing all the way to the bank.   Profitability?  What does that have to do with anything anymore?

PE jags is right, if I hear another "he's a good guy" about a PE JAG with money I may make the mass shooter thread.*

 

 

*law enforcement, this is a figure of speech, instead I'll just keep my mouth shut and make my hourly rate on their way to the bank.

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One of the most troubling moments in the new interview comes when Kennedy discusses the role that artificial intelligence is going to play in replacing or altering the VAERS system, which stands for Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. VAERS allows doctors to report incidents when they believe a patient has been harmed by vaccines, but Kennedy isn’t happy with it. The secretary insists it was “designed to fail,” suggesting it’s not registering enough people who in his mind have been harmed by vaccines over the years.

“We’re going to absolutely change VAERS and we’re going to make it, we’re going to create either within VAERS or supplementary to VAERS, a system that actually works,” Kennedy said. “And, you know, right now, even that system is antiquated because we have access to AI.”

Kennedy told Carlson he was creating an “AI revolution” at the Department of Health and Human Services and was attracting the top people from Silicon Valley who “walked away from billion dollar businesses.” But Kennedy says these people don’t want prestige or power, they just want to make the healthcare system better.

“We are at the cutting edge of AI,” Kennedy said. “We’re implementing it in all of our departments. At FDA, we’re accelerating drug approvals so that you don’t need to use primates or even animal models. You can do the drug approvals very, very quickly with AI.”

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The guy who doesn't believe in vaccines is using AI to accelerate drug approvals.

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I can at least somewhat understand the appeal of Trump to certain people, even if it's lost on me.  He says what they want to hear, has a certain kind of confidence, and has been a public figure for a long time, which carries weight for some people for whatever reason. In short, he's a populist.  It doesn't do it for me, but I can understand it and the tactic has been used successfully throughout the history of democracies.   What I will never understand is how these same folks are not concerned that someone like RFK Jr. has his hands in anything meaningful.  That man couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag if you gave him a knife.   How is this shit even possible?  Outside of the absolute dumbest motherfuckers alive, who listens to this man and thinks, "Yep, that's the guy for the job!"  I just can't wrap my head around it.

Anyway, back on topic.  Fuck AI, fuck tech bros, fuck private equity, and fuck anyone who profits from any of it.  Go find work that actually means something before your humanity is completely lost.  A fry cook adds more value to society for fucks sake. 

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

One of the most troubling moments in the new interview comes when Kennedy discusses the role that artificial intelligence is going to play in replacing or altering the VAERS system, which stands for Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. VAERS allows doctors to report incidents when they believe a patient has been harmed by vaccines, but Kennedy isn’t happy with it. The secretary insists it was “designed to fail,” suggesting it’s not registering enough people who in his mind have been harmed by vaccines over the years.

“We’re going to absolutely change VAERS and we’re going to make it, we’re going to create either within VAERS or supplementary to VAERS, a system that actually works,” Kennedy said. “And, you know, right now, even that system is antiquated because we have access to AI.”

Kennedy told Carlson he was creating an “AI revolution” at the Department of Health and Human Services and was attracting the top people from Silicon Valley who “walked away from billion dollar businesses.” But Kennedy says these people don’t want prestige or power, they just want to make the healthcare system better.

“We are at the cutting edge of AI,” Kennedy said. “We’re implementing it in all of our departments. At FDA, we’re accelerating drug approvals so that you don’t need to use primates or even animal models. You can do the drug approvals very, very quickly with AI.”

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The guy who doesn't believe in vaccines is using AI to accelerate drug approvals.

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Is this an actual quote?

“We are at the cutting edge of AI,” Kennedy said. “We’re implementing it in all of our departments. At FDA, we’re accelerating drug approvals so that you don’t need to use primates or even animal models. You can do the drug approvals very, very quickly with AI.”

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7 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Is this an actual quote?

“We are at the cutting edge of AI,” Kennedy said. “We’re implementing it in all of our departments. At FDA, we’re accelerating drug approvals so that you don’t need to use primates or even animal models. You can do the drug approvals very, very quickly with AI.”

What could go wrong?

"Hey Grok, is Elon's TeslaXSuperBrainJuiceCancerCureAndFlavorPacket safe for all desired uses, and will totally cure all cancers, baldness, and even mild cases of the dropsy?  What's that you say, "enthusiastic YES?  Well then....APPROVED!"

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