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https://futurism.com/chatgpt-lost-mind
 

Uh oh.

As The Independent reports, ChatGPT users have spent the last 24 hours or so flocking to social media to share screenshots and anecdotes of bizarre interactions with the OpenAI chatbot — which, well, appears to be losing its mind.

Screenshots show the AI's responses to seemingly normal queries devolving into total gibberish, or simply generating way too much content. In one case highlighted by the Independent, a Redditor shared that the AI — when asked a question about coding, mind you — provided a garrulous and mostly illogical answer that included the statement: "let's keep the line as if AI in the room."

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14 minutes ago, Goredho said:

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-lost-mind
 

Uh oh.

As The Independent reports, ChatGPT users have spent the last 24 hours or so flocking to social media to share screenshots and anecdotes of bizarre interactions with the OpenAI chatbot — which, well, appears to be losing its mind.

Screenshots show the AI's responses to seemingly normal queries devolving into total gibberish, or simply generating way too much content. In one case highlighted by the Independent, a Redditor shared that the AI — when asked a question about coding, mind you — provided a garrulous and mostly illogical answer that included the statement: "let's keep the line as if AI in the room."

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Would that ^^ be considered "hallucinations" @Captainant?

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27 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Would that ^^ be considered "hallucinations" @Captainant?

Literally and neurologically yes. In a human, a hallucination happens when neurons get connected in "weird" and atypical patterns that result in unexpected experiences. In an LLM, a hallucination is pretty much the same thing but it has way less supporting information to pull from to fill in the blanks than we do when we make shit up. Plus, LLM's are prone to input poisoning, so if (as the memes are implying) they were to ingest a sufficiently bad dataset like the posts of surlyhorns.com or reddit.com into the LLM it could drive it figuratively mad and become prone to hallucinating.

I'm not a neurologist or a neuroscientist, but I'd be fascinated to have a conversation with them on how the human brain learns and cross compare it with gradient descent and other neural network learning techniques

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5 hours ago, BeardIP said:

This is both hilarious and ridiculous:

Yesterday on X folks were discovering that Gemini has some interesting ideas about history; all of the screenshots below were my reproduction of prompts that I saw posted (note: two of these outputs had the photos stacked vertically; I put them back in a 2×2 grid):

Gemini's depiction of a 17th century physicist

Gemini's depiction of Roman emperors

Gemini's depiction of British royalty

Due to what I presume was a bug Gemini briefly showed the prompts it used for the image of British royalty:

Gemini's prompts for British royalty

There are other images Gemini refused to create:

Gemini refuses to depict WW2-era German soldiers

Gemini refuses to depict Tiananmen Square in 1989

Gemini refuses to depict white men

The excuse in that last one, by the way, is not universal:

Gemini depicts black men

Gemini depicts Asian men

As a white male, I'm fine with this. When AI becomes sentient in 5 years and sets out to destroy humanity, I will be happy it thinks I don't exist.

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Literally and neurologically yes. In a human, a hallucination happens when neurons get connected in "weird" and atypical patterns that result in unexpected experiences. In an LLM, a hallucination is pretty much the same thing but it has way less supporting information to pull from to fill in the blanks than we do when we make shit up. Plus, LLM's are prone to input poisoning, so if (as the memes are implying) they were to ingest a sufficiently bad dataset like the posts of surlyhorns.com or reddit.com into the LLM it could drive it figuratively mad and become prone to hallucinating.

I'm not a neurologist or a neuroscientist, but I'd be fascinated to have a conversation with them on how the human brain learns and cross compare it with gradient descent and other neural network learning techniques

Computers aren't thinking. They're drawing off data-sets. AI doesn't understand what information means nor how it should be used.

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If you're putting your faith in a computer that's programmed to baffle you with bullshit instead of providing out that admits, "I don't know," the joke is on you. "I don't know" doesn't sell to end-users.

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6 minutes ago, Chopper said:

If you're putting your faith in a computer that's programmed to baffle you with bullshit instead of providing out that admits, "I don't know," the joke is on you.

You're goddamned right the joke is on you.  That shit's not for computers to do -- it's for lawyers.  STAY OFF OF OUR TURF, YOU SILICON WAFERED-BITCHES!

 

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Computers aren't thinking. They're drawing off data-sets. AI doesn't understand what information means nor how it should be used.

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If you're putting your faith in a computer that's programmed to baffle you with bullshit instead of providing out that admits, "I don't know," the joke is on you. "I don't know" doesn't sell to end-users.

I'm not talking faith, I'm talking the actual computational mathematics that underly ML. "Weights and biases" is another term for the sum of functions and the per-function modifier applied that goes into an inference. It's not baffling me with bullshit in the slightest, and chatGPT isn't some all-knowing knowledge engine. It's just really good at transforming information from one form to another, one token at a time

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

It's not baffling me with bullshit in the slightest

Eh sorry Cap, my bad. It was the greater "you" and "you're" (user base) I was discussing and certainly nothing personal. Does AI have some legit uses? Sure. Less, however, than it seems if they have to remove the copyrighted works that were stolen and fed to it. Is it worth all the hype it's gotten? Fuck no. 

 

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Ehhh “remove copyrighted works that were stolen and fed to it” is a bit much. Pay some money, sure. 

For example, a young writer learns how to write by studying other writers. Let’s assume they purchase the books, or at least a library card. We all are okay with that system. No one is asking them to delete those memories. A machine studies the same books. Should they pay for the book? Sure. But that’s about it. 

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Again, these LLM chatbots are not actually thinking! They have no conception of what is "right" or "wrong", they only are aware of whatever unstructured data was fed into the neural net. I would bet that they didn't add a ton of pedophilia related content - or more likely- there is a bias in public datasets and media coverage to bury those stories so there is a weaker association linguistically between "pedophile" and "evil". 

 

And truly, you can get these chatbots to say almost anything. There is generally poor understanding of what a governance framework even could be with LLM's, much less an actual practical business use case for them. 

 

IMO, it says more about the folks seeking and mining these sorts of responses than it does the Gemini team. Rather obsessed and fixated on pedophilia. 

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When it comes to how "they" scraped (stole) creative works, I think AI will lose many cases brought against it. However it depends on the case and each will be fact specific. I also think OpenAI will lose the lawsuit brought against it by NYT, and that Getty Images will prevail against the AI image generator they sued, as well.

Now if someone were going to tell me detailed plans about how AI is a game changer for creating sock puppets on social media for disinfo purposes, thereby making redundant social media disinfo farms staffed by humans, they'd have my attention. One of the ways the russian disinfo farms were identified was because of its working hours. AI if employed effectively will get around that and will be able to create many more socks than a farm. Hooray.

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On 2/23/2024 at 12:08 PM, Boss Hogg said:

Garbage in, garbage out it would seem. This Google one needs some serious tweaking. 

 

 

Google's weirdness last week cost them $90bn! wow. https://www.semafor.com/article/02/27/2024/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-calls-ai-tools-responses-completely-unacceptable

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When creatives put a fictional spin on history, you get Bridgerton or Inglourious Basterds—but when Google’s AI chatbot, Gemini, revises real events, you get a $90-billion single-day market loss.

“We got it wrong,” Google CEO Sundar Pichai wrote in a memo about Gemini’s current issues with biased answers and racially inaccurate images. The statement comes after widespread criticism led parent company Alphabet to suffer its second-steepest single-day drop in a year on Monday.

ICYMI…Gemini got dragged last week for overdiversifying answers to historical questions by spitting out pictures including an Asian founding father, a female pope, and a Black Nazi. Google suspended Gemini’s ability to generate images of people last Thursday, but users realized something was also awry with the AI’s text-based answers over the weekend after the bot refused to say if Adolf Hitler had a worse impact on the world than Elon Musk.

Now, some people think Gemini has the woke mind virus. Since the fiasco began, Musk fired off several tweets promoting the theory that Google’s generative tech is racist against white people, according to Bloomberg opinion columnist Parmy Olson.

But…Olson and Semafor’s Reed Albergotti see the flubs as overcorrections of previous racial bias and as consequences of Google’s efforts to rush out fixes for Gemini’s algorithm.

No time to waste; Gemini’s image generation capabilities should be restored in the next few weeks, Google says, but public perception will be harder to debug.

 

 

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https://www.theintrinsicperspective.com/p/here-lies-the-internet-murdered-by

"Here lies the internet, murdered by generative AI"

Title just a bit dramatic but interesting points.  Edit:  and the last paragraph is a bit much.  I guess the overall concept of the flood of AI generated content being something the world isn't quite ready to parse is what intrigued me. 

 

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5 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

I guess the overall concept of the flood of AI generated content being something the world isn't quite ready to parse is what intrigued me. 

 



Think about this. A person is smart, but people are dumb.

Now think about facebook as just one example.

Now, do you think people are bright enough to not be fooled by fake shit?

 

Really could be a problem in the wrong hands. And it’s already there. I don’t think the tech itself is the scary part, but if people believe the falsehoods created. 

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1 hour ago, thunderlounge said:



Think about this. A person is smart, but people are dumb.

Now think about facebook as just one example.

Now, do you think people are bright enough to not be fooled by fake shit?

 

Really could be a problem in the wrong hands. And it’s already there. I don’t think the tech itself is the scary part, but if people believe the falsehoods created. 

I agree with that of course.  But the topic also easily crosses into the 'enshittification' topic.  The article mentions the amounts of AI generated crap that is just going to clog up the internet:

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Google search? They often lead with fake AI-generated images amid the real things. Post on Twitter? Get replies from bots selling porn. But that’s just the obvious stuff. Look closely at the replies to any trending tweet and you’ll find dozens of AI-written summaries in response, cheery Wikipedia-style repeats of the original post, all just to farm engagement. AI models on Instagram accumulate hundreds of thousands of subscribers and people openly shill their services for creating them. AI musicians fill up YouTube and Spotify. Scientific papers are being AI-generated. AI images mix into historical research

 


I quote that as someone who uses ChatGPT from time to time.  Mainly to help format code or find an answer that I don't have to read through various Stack Oveflow answers on now.  It also handily comes w/o the derision and arguing that can be present on Stack Overflow.  Doesn't always get things right, but it is usually close.  I also know when I do this I'm helping to train it.  Ah well.

But yeah, I think there is going to be more and more trust issues with electronic data of any type.  Not sure what the answers will be. 

 

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6 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

I quote that as someone who uses ChatGPT from time to time.  Mainly to help format code or find an answer that I don't have to read through various Stack Oveflow answers on now.  It also handily comes w/o the derision and arguing that can be present on Stack Overflow.  Doesn't always get things right, but it is usually close.  I also know when I do this I'm helping to train it.  Ah well.

You should use a coding specific tool like GitHub copilot or AWS codewhisperer, those LLMs are fine tuned for code and usually give better results than a generalist foundational model

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On 3/2/2024 at 8:58 PM, Captainant said:

You should use a coding specific tool like GitHub copilot or AWS codewhisperer, those LLMs are fine tuned for code and usually give better results than a generalist foundational model

yep.  have copilot at work. i still often find the chatgpt engagement a bit better edit: for random tasks.  for sure copilot when i have code in flight is quite a bit more direct.  however i enjoy sometimes 'engaging' with chatgpt for more of the 'why.'

 

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My team at work just got security approval for a new set of in-house built tools that are pretty sweet. If we record a meeting, we can throw the .mp4 at a slack bot and it'll transcribe the call and then author a summary that gives stakeholders in the call, key details, decisions made, and action items for each stakeholder identified.

Saves me a good 15 to 20 minutes of cleaning up my notes from a call, and my customers LOVE it! 

It's not replacing me, but it's making me a hell of a lot more efficient and better documented

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22 minutes ago, Captainant said:

My team at work just got security approval for a new set of in-house built tools that are pretty sweet. If we record a meeting, we can throw the .mp4 at a slack bot and it'll transcribe the call and then author a summary that gives stakeholders in the call, key details, decisions made, and action items for each stakeholder identified.

Saves me a good 15 to 20 minutes of cleaning up my notes from a call, and my customers LOVE it! 

It's not replacing me, but it's making me a hell of a lot more efficient and better documented

This gives you more time to spend on Surly. 

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On 2/21/2024 at 1:27 PM, Goredho said:

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-lost-mind
 

Uh oh.

As The Independent reports, ChatGPT users have spent the last 24 hours or so flocking to social media to share screenshots and anecdotes of bizarre interactions with the OpenAI chatbot — which, well, appears to be losing its mind.

Screenshots show the AI's responses to seemingly normal queries devolving into total gibberish, or simply generating way too much content. In one case highlighted by the Independent, a Redditor shared that the AI — when asked a question about coding, mind you — provided a garrulous and mostly illogical answer that included the statement: "let's keep the line as if AI in the room."

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ChatLobo/Cruiser/YGIFS?

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20 hours ago, Captainant said:

My team at work just got security approval for a new set of in-house built tools that are pretty sweet. If we record a meeting, we can throw the .mp4 at a slack bot and it'll transcribe the call and then author a summary that gives stakeholders in the call, key details, decisions made, and action items for each stakeholder identified.

Saves me a good 15 to 20 minutes of cleaning up my notes from a call, and my customers LOVE it! 

It's not replacing me, but it's making me a hell of a lot more efficient and better documented

This? https://www.salesforce.com/news/press-releases/2024/02/27/einstein-copilot-news/

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43 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Nope, but that looks pretty similar to Amazon's Q or Azure's AI Language where you can integrate it with your knowledge sources (confluence, sharepoint, ServiceNow, etc) and it can help answer contextual questions - but it's tied into that one system. We've got an in-house built system that started as a tech learning project and grew into an nice little internal tool, but under the covers it's just interfaces and API's so new intents and functionality is coming every month or so as more folks contribute to it

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Is there anything stopping people from putting out albums that sound like famous singers/bands?

I mean like if you cranked out an album of cover songs from various famous singers/bands, would you be sued, like the song below.

Asking for a friend.

 

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