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14 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

 

I mean I think it’s only like a 50 peso fine for not voting 

Maybe, I never asked about the consequences.  I guess they diminish as the value of the peso decreases.

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9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

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you have little clinics staffed that can give an array of medical care and shots. they can order x-rays and such

birth control shot is $5, so i've heard 

I believe Israel has free healthcare, women’s productive rights, free university as well.  So we’re funding all this stuff for Argentina and Israel but no soup for us.

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16 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Story as old as time, but I guess it's not in the dark in smoke-filled rooms and secrecy anymore.

Prices have sure gone up.

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Damn, that didn't take long.  King Mierdas in effect again.  Everything he touches turns to shit.

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Trump Offered a Helping Hand to Argentina. It Backfired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/world/americas/argentina-trump-javier-milei.html

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As President Javier Milei of Argentina faced a deepening economic crisis, President Trump rushed to the rescue of his political ally with a generous $20 billion bailout. 

Then came the fine print.

To secure help from the United States, Mr. Trump made clear on Tuesday, Mr. Milei’s embattled political party would have to first pull off a victory in what are emerging as momentous and challenging legislative elections this month.

“If he doesn’t win, we’re gone,” Mr. Trump said as he welcomed Mr. Milei, who he has called his “favorite president,” to the White House. “If he loses, we are not going to be generous with Argentina.”

In Argentina, those comments were taken by many as a clear attempt by Mr. Trump to put his thumb on a sovereign country’s electoral process.

The fallout was swift. The peso tumbled as investors went on a panicked selling spree of Argentina’s currency. Mr. Milei’s political opponents railed against what they called American extortion, urging voters to reject his party at the polls. And Mr. Milei’s government rushed to try to assure Argentines that Mr. Trump wouldn’t abandon the nation based on Mr. Milei’s political fortunes. 

To many, Mr. Trump’s conditional economic support represented yet another attempt to influence, through economic sticks and carrots, the internal affairs of another Latin American country. The turmoil that followed also highlighted the risks Mr. Milei faces as he shackles his political fortunes, and Argentina’s economic future, to America’s deep pockets and Mr. Trump’s fickle friendship. 

“Trump might have sabotaged his favorite president — by both giving him too much support and too little support,” said Benjamin Gedan, a senior fellow and director of the Latin America Program at the Stimson Center, a nonprofit in Washington.

Mr. Milei, a self-described radical libertarian, has worked hard to earn Mr. Trump’s good graces. He has made more than a dozen trips to the United States as president, many of them to meet Mr. Trump and his closest allies. He has also consistently gushed about the American leader and mirrored much of his foreign policy and his attacks on “woke leftists.”

His bet seemed to pay off last month when the U.S. Treasury made the highly unusual move of stepping in to help Argentina stave off an economic meltdown by promising to buy billions of dollars worth of Argentine pesos. 

Mr. Milei’s trip to Washington this week was meant to be a victory lap highlighting his close ties with Mr. Trump and bolstering confidence in his leadership among voters back home.

Yet, rather than a key lifeline, Mr. Trump’s help may have backfired. “What could have been interpreted as help, the way Trump phrased it ended up sounding more like extortion,” said Lucas Romero, a political consultant, who runs Synopsis, a local polling firm. 

Argentines wary of American meddling in their affairs could punish Mr. Milei at the polls. Surveys earlier this month showedthat more than 60 percent of Argentines have a negative view of Mr. Trump.

 

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On 10/15/2025 at 5:37 PM, InkaUtexas said:

Trump and Hegseth will get pissed off, search for Argentina on YouTube and invade the Falklands. 

*Malvinas

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There’s an argument to help out a country that is having financial problems. The world economies are linked and w have an interest in keeping north and South American countries aligned to the US.

but why does Trump have to follow it up that he’s doing this because he likes the Argentina president? He really is the ultimate small businessman that personal connections and fealty to him are the only driving factors.

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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There’s an argument to help out a country that is having financial problems. The world economies are linked and w have an interest in keeping north and South American countries aligned to the US.

but why does Trump have to follow it up that he’s doing this because he likes the Argentina president? He really is the ultimate small businessman that personal connections and fealty to him are the only driving factors.

Nah, they literally voted for that shit show. They don’t deserve any help

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On 10/20/2025 at 7:55 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There’s an argument to help out a country that is having financial problems. The world economies are linked and w have an interest in keeping north and South American countries aligned to the US.

but why does Trump have to follow it up that he’s doing this because he likes the Argentina president? He really is the ultimate small businessman that personal connections and fealty to him are the only driving factors.

 

 

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On 10/20/2025 at 7:35 AM, TwiceHorn said:

*Malvinas

In 3 months we'll be saying,

 

"Wow its crazy we've only been at war with the UK for Argentina for a month. It feels like ten  years! Anyway, imagine if any other president had declared war on the UK!"

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Seeing headlines the dipshit’s party doubled its reps in election today. I’m sure the country will start turning the corner any day now

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11 minutes ago, bluto said:

Seeing headlines the dipshit’s party doubled its reps in election today. I’m sure the country will start turning the corner any day now

Here is a link. In Argentina this is an ass kicking. 

Argentina's midterm election hands landslide win to Milei's libertarian overhaul

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentines-vote-high-stakes-test-mileis-libertarian-vision-2025-10-26/

 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I mean, they got the US to give them $20B and counting. Sounds like a win if I’m Argentine.

Still. It is pretty shocking.

Why? 

Posted
29 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I Sounds like a win if I’m Argentine.

 

Honestly, as much as a loss would have made Trump meltdown and that would have been fun to see, Milei getting the win might have been for the better.  Historically, the proof is in the pudding that Argentina will continue to be a cluterfuck.  The $20b has already morphed into $40b.  When that's not enough?   Who knows what happens then.     

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1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

Honestly, as much as a loss would have made Trump meltdown and that would have been fun to see, Milei getting the win might have been for the better.  Historically, the proof is in the pudding that Argentina will continue to be a cluterfuck.  The $20b has already morphed into $40b.  When that's not enough?   Who knows what happens then.     

Latin America. A civil war/revolutoin/guerrial shit followed by a Military Government. Argentina is going to Argentine. Only thing they can agree on is Churassco, wine and the national soccer team. 

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Why? 

I was more expecting a bit more backlash regarding Millei’s policies rather than confirmation of them. Especially with tfg’s threat. Guess my radar was off on this one.
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Latin America. A civil war/revolutoin/guerrial shit followed by a Military Government. Argentina is going to Argentine. Only thing they can agree on is Churassco, wine and the national soccer team. 

Don’t forget hot girls in yoga pants. They were doing that shit in the 90s, decades before it came here. And I salute them for it.
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36 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


I was more expecting a bit more backlash regarding Millei’s policies rather than confirmation of them. Especially with tfg’s threat. Guess my radar was off on this one.

The analysis I was reading was that a referendum on Millei's policies woudl be to endure all the pain of the austerity and not have the stomach/patience to see it out for the "potential" gain. The worst of both worlds, in other words, and with the $20bn lifeline, it bought time to prove out the thesis I guess.

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

The analysis I was reading was that a referendum on Millei's policies woudl be to endure all the pain of the austerity and not have the stomach/patience to see it out for the "potential" gain. The worst of both worlds, in other words, and with the $20bn lifeline, it bought time to prove out the thesis I guess.

And on our dime (er...$20B and rising) too. 

 

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Argentina is one of those places where the voters' thought process is largely simple, clear, and understandable.

"We've tried X and Y for the past 50 years.....and we've ended up ratfucked, completely.  So, fuck it, let's try Z, we literally can't do any worse."  And they're right.  What's the worst that can happen?  They turn into a bankrupt, totally failed economy?  Been there, done that, a dozen times in the past several decades.  They've seen rock bottom, they were just at another rock bottom, fuck it, let's try something different.

I still don't think this gambit will really work, but I genuinely can't blame them for trying something completely different, given their track record.

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Argentina is one of those places where the voters' thought process is largely simple, clear, and understandable.

"We've tried X and Y for the past 50 years.....and we've ended up ratfucked, completely.  So, fuck it, let's try Z, we literally can't do any worse."  And they're right.  What's the worst that can happen?  They turn into a bankrupt, totally failed economy?  Been there, done that, a dozen times in the past several decades.  They've seen rock bottom, they were just at another rock bottom, fuck it, let's try something different.

I still don't think this gambit will really work, but I genuinely can't blame them for trying something completely different, given their track record.

Falklands should be nervous. :)

 

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4 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Falklands shoudl be nervous. :)

 

My folks' apartment in BA looked over the park with the Malvinas memorial.  Not many visitors to the memorial.  But on a sunny day, LOTS of stunning Argentine women sunning themselves on the park lawn.  Solid location for an apartment balcony.

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10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Argentina is one of those places where the voters' thought process is largely simple, clear, and understandable.

"We've tried X and Y for the past 50 years.....and we've ended up ratfucked, completely.  So, fuck it, let's try Z, we literally can't do any worse."  And they're right.  What's the worst that can happen?  They turn into a bankrupt, totally failed economy?  Been there, done that, a dozen times in the past several decades.  They've seen rock bottom, they were just at another rock bottom, fuck it, let's try something different.

I still don't think this gambit will really work, but I genuinely can't blame them for trying something completely different, given their track record.

Exactly this.

His 'phase 1' already delivered Argentina's first full-year surplus in 123 years and crushed monthly inflation from ~25% to ~2%, all by slashing things Argentina can't really afford (subsidies, costly public works, and a big public sector). And while poverty is still high, the latest stats show it’s falling (though critics argue the numbers cloud a complex picture).

His planned 'phase 2' reforms will be just as big and polarising, whether deregulating the labour market, simplifying the tax code, or privatising another ~20 state-owned firms.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/latin-america/article/javier-milei-argentina-elections-2025-f3k6jbbf9

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

My folks' apartment in BA looked over the park with the Malvinas memorial.  Not many visitors to the memorial.  But on a sunny day, LOTS of stunning Argentine women sunning themselves on the park lawn.  Solid location for an apartment balcony.

I can imagine.  

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

His 'phase 1' already delivered Argentina's first full-year surplus in 123 years

It's hard to trumpet a "surplus" when you're simultaneously begging for a $40 billion bailout lest you collapse.  And the inflation rate is.....back to 2021 levels (yes, it was hyperinflation for a period, so any decrease is good, but let's not go sucking each other's dicks just yet).  Accounting bullshit is bullshit when the rubber meets the road.

4 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I can imagine.  

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Well, I mean....I was married by then.  But even my wife agreed "holy shit, these women are gorgeous."

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's hard to trumpet a "surplus" when you're simultaneously begging for a $40 billion bailout lest you collapse.  And the inflation rate is.....back to 2021 levels (yes, it was hyperinflation for a period, so any decrease is good, but let's not go sucking each other's dicks just yet).  Accounting bullshit is bullshit when the rubber meets the road.

Well, I mean....I was married by then.  But even my wife agreed "holy shit, these women are gorgeous."

To be fair the surplus was 9 months before the currency swap (and to be the most fair, without the currency swap and $20/$40bn bailout, maybe he loses in a landslide), but as it stands today he almost tripled his seats which is like if Texas were to beat Vandy by 20-- hard to imagine before it happens, but it could happen!

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4 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Exactly this.

His 'phase 1' already delivered Argentina's first full-year surplus in 123 years and crushed monthly inflation from ~25% to ~2%, all by slashing things Argentina can't really afford (subsidies, costly public works, and a big public sector). And while poverty is still high, the latest stats show it’s falling (though critics argue the numbers cloud a complex picture).

His planned 'phase 2' reforms will be just as big and polarising, whether deregulating the labour market, simplifying the tax code, or privatising another ~20 state-owned firms.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/latin-america/article/javier-milei-argentina-elections-2025-f3k6jbbf9

This reads like AI.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

This reads like AI.

I absolutely would not be surprised if journalists are using AI now and passing it as their own.

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Just now, Vegas64 said:

I absolutely would not be surprised if journalists are using AI now and passing it as their own.

No, I mean your post, which wasn't quoting what you linked.

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

No, I mean your post, which wasn't quoting what you linked.

I put it in google and this what Gemini AI spits out. Sounds kinda like it, I suppose!

Milei's economic achievements
  • Fiscal surplus: For the first time since 2009, Argentina achieved a budget surplus for the full year 2024, a major political achievement given the country's long history of deficits.
  • Crushed inflation: The government's drastic spending cuts helped bring staggering monthly inflation down from a peak of around 25% in December 2023 to between 2% and 3% in early 2025. This has been a key factor in slowing the annual inflation rate, which had neared 300%.
  • Shrunk the public sector: Milei's government followed through on its promises to slash public spending by firing tens of thousands of government workers and reducing the number of ministries from 19 to 9. The policy has also significantly reduced transfers to provinces.
 
The painful consequences of "shock therapy"
  • Deep recession: The austerity measures have caused a sharp economic contraction. Consumer spending fell by 20% in the past year, and the International Monetary Fund projected a 3.5% contraction for 2024.
  • Soaring poverty: Poverty rates surged to a two-decade high of 52.9% in early 2024 following the shock measures. Though official statistics show it falling to 31.6% by mid-2025, independent researchers warn the methodology may not fully capture the pain from subsidy cuts.
  • Hardship for the working class and seniors: The elimination of energy and transportation subsidies has caused bills to balloon for ordinary Argentines. The government's fiscal savings came in large part from freezing the real value of pensions, leaving many retirees struggling.
  • Defunded public services: Milei's cuts have severely impacted public infrastructure projects, education, and scientific research. Universities have struggled to pay bills, and construction workers have been laid off in large numbers.


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