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Just now, David Dennison said:

Not always. Not even in the way that you're talking about. Nature doesn't play by your social rules.

No way, the Bible taught me the only two combinations are XX and XY.  It's law science dogma.

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6 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

It's ok to admit you got turned on by a trans woman once.

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Posted
Just now, softlynow said:

It means there are a number of scenarios where, if we actually do have elections, the result will be predetermined or won’t actually matter. 

So it's the left wing version of stop the steal.

 

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5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

How is firing thousands of employees working on things like air safety, cancer research, national park upkeep, etc. "exposing the misappropriation of gov funds?" These are congressionally authorized funds going to people doing important work that helps everyone. He's just willy nilly slashing jobs.

Just because you may personally believe that cancer is not worth combating, doesn't mean the funds have been misappropriated.

I agree. I would love to hear the reasoning behind each cut that is made bc I do not agree with all of it. But tens of thousand of dollars to climate change in Sri Lanka is questionable. 

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Just now, Texasborn91 said:

I agree. I would love to hear the reasoning behind each cut that is made bc I do not agree with all of it. But tens of thousand of dollars to climate change in Sri Lanka is questionable. 

Naw you pussy, you don't get to pick and choose now. You voted for all of it. Stand tall like a man and own that shit. 

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11 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Exactly how is he clearing up the "gender fiasco,"  and what is it exactly?

What government "misappropriation of funds" are you talking about?

And what has he done to secure the southern border?

How about inflation and the price of gas?

It’s interesting, there seems to be the belief that the gender “war” has been won among my Republican friends.  They are ecstatic about the banning of men in women’s sports. The term tranny also seems to be making a comeback as well, so there’s a lot of gloating going on lately. 

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1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

I agree. I would love to hear the reasoning behind each cut that is made bc I do not agree with all of it. But tens of thousand of dollars to climate change in Sri Lanka is questionable. 

Tens of thousands???

No Way Wow GIF

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Posted
Just now, Texasborn91 said:

I agree. I would love to hear the reasoning behind each cut that is made bc I do not agree with all of it.

The reasoning is that they are trying to destroy as much of our government as they can, so they can say "See?? Government sucks. Only way to fix all this shit now is with a dictator." 

 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I agree. I would love to hear the reasoning behind each cut that is made bc I do not agree with all of it. But tens of thousand of dollars to climate change in Sri Lanka is questionable. 

Sure. A careful review of every expense and cutting things that are wasteful is a great thing. I am certainly all for any government audit. Particularly when a new administration takes over with different priorities. 

But they are moving way too fast to be doing that. And being done by people without oversight by anybody and by a guy who only got his position because he bribed the President. Also one of the government's biggest contractors. Musk should have been approved by Congress and had divested himself from all government contracts before taking this role. And generally this needs to be done with Congress involved as they are supposed to ultimately decide how money is spent.

Basically the way it is being done couldn't be more corrupt. And it seems pointless as we should be working to eliminate the deficit and pay off the debt, yet it seems any savings will be washed away in another unaffordable and giant tax cut that will continue the death march of our government. I hope I am wrong on that one.

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

The reasoning is that they are trying to destroy as much of our government as they can, so they can say "See?? Government sucks. Only way to fix all this shit now is with a dictator." divert the funds through shell corporation "contractors" to their offshore bank accounts.

 

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Just now, Hitch said:

It’s interesting, there seems to be the belief that the gender “war” has been won among my Republican friends.  They are ecstatic about the banning of men in women’s sports. The term tranny also seems to be making a comeback as well, so there’s a lot of gloating going on lately. 

The inevitable backlash will be fabulous.

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Posted
Just now, wildcat09 said:

Stop preemptively conceding to fascists that they might be right about something. Your attempts at finding common ground aren't going to help persuade them. They're fascists, they're not persuadable. All you're doing is telling anyone else reading that the fascists have a point about something. 

This guy seems reasonable on some issues. Besides it feels productive to lay out my thoughts on these topics.

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9 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I guess we just needed a politician to make autocratic decrees to solve all problems. Ultimately we will see how this issue gets resolved. I don't think it is solved at this point though.

As for Biden, well I am generally against having major political leaders over 70. Call me ageist but I feel like this is a job for the middle aged. But I never voted for Biden except when he was going up against other 70 year olds.

I agree on the age. If you haven’t stood out in your political career before becoming a senior citizen then maybe it wasn’t the job for you. 
For the record: I have no problem with any person living their life the way they want to. But when it comes to legal documentation and representation in athletic events I think you should be grouped into the gender that you were genetically born into. I’m not trying to start any kind of shit. Just trying to add to the convo. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

The Zelenskyy comment was fucking stupid. The man’s country was invaded. 

So what are you going to do about it?  

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Posted
1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

I agree on the age. If you haven’t stood out in your political career before becoming a senior citizen then maybe it wasn’t the job for you. 
For the record: I have no problem with any person living their life the way they want to. But when it comes to legal documentation and representation in athletic events I think you should be grouped into the gender that you were genetically born into. I’m not trying to start any kind of shit. Just trying to add to the convo. 

You voted for nazis because Troph had an "F" on her driver's license instead of an "M"? That's your fucking justification?

Jesus man, I'd have more respect for you if your actual justification was "the nazi party offered me a great career opportunity and I didn't give a shit about the cost to others." 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Stop lying.   The gender stuff is manufactured outrage.   The border bill was killed by Trump.  The new border policy is a grift game just like last time to enrich the tent providers, private prisons, and facilitators of flights (tickets are 100x the actual cost).   

He has harmed our alliances, catered to dictators, cut off funding for disease and disease containment (AGAIN), even harmed pediatric cancer research, but decided that $90 million was necessary for a party to celebrate himself.   You believe lies, and shift priorities to whatever they tell you to believe.   We are cutting back, so why do we need a 4 trillion increase in the debt ceiling?   If mr businessman is so fucking amazing, why is health care not $8 every 6 months like he promised the first time?  Why are food prices and inflation on the rise again?  Why are aircraft suddenly experience an uptick in incidents?  Why are we cutting food/drug oversight?  Why is a heroin addict with poor judgement and no medical degree in charge of our health?

We have problems in this country.  Most of them stem from the right wingers idea of governance.   

 

 

You cannot group me into being a MAGA fan boy. Some shit makes sense. Some doesn’t. I voted trump but I think abortion is handled based on religious beliefs and that’s not right. I believe you should be able to defend your home, family, and property but that doesn’t mean you should be able to own 20 ARs. I believe in America you can dress, love (except children), and live the way you want to. That doesn’t mean you get to compete against someone who is the opposite sex and it be considered fair. 
I loled when I got called a Nazi. Shit is retarded. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bringing up trumps’ intellectual capacity after Biden literally melted like ambient temperature butter for the better part of 4 years is interesting. 

Biden had much more intellect to begin with. Both are the same age. So not only was Trump impressively dumber to start, he's also declined just as much, if not more. 

This isn't difficult to understand (except for Trumpkins).

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I’m not stupid enough to bitch about the price of eggs in the middle of a bird flu outbreak. 

And yet, that was a MAGA campaign point during the election.  Post election, now nothing can be done.  So much bullshit.

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You voted for nazis because Troph had an "F" on her driver's license instead of an "M"? That's your fucking justification?

Jesus man, I'd have more respect for you if your actual justification was "the nazi party offered me a great career opportunity and I didn't give a shit about the cost to others." 

Yep.  This.

Q: "There is this amazing Republic.  It has been through wars, strife, and incredible tests.  And through it all, and because it has a relatively resilient political structure that both allows for it to evolve but also maintains the rule of law and predictability, it has incrementally improved, becoming the most prosperous country the world has ever seen.  What political/cultural development could POSSIBLY cause you to choose to throw that all away?"

A: "People who were born dudes being able to say they are chicks on their drivers licenses.  Also, I understand something like 5-6 of em might play college sports in the women's division."

Dumbest.  Fucking.  Timeline.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You voted for nazis because Troph had an "F" on her driver's license instead of an "M"? That's your fucking justification?

Jesus man, I'd have more respect for you if your actual justification was "the nazi party offered me a great career opportunity and I didn't give a shit about the cost to others." 

That’s fine. I have no ill will towards troph whatsoever. I just don’t think your gender is something that can officially be changed. If you want to live your life that way then more power to you. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

You cannot group me into being a MAGA fan boy. Some shit makes sense. Some doesn’t. I voted trump but I think abortion is handled based on religious beliefs and that’s not right. I believe you should be able to defend your home, family, and property but that doesn’t mean you should be able to own 20 ARs. I believe in America you can dress, love (except children), and live the way you want to. That doesn’t mean you get to compete against someone who is the opposite sex and it be considered fair. 
I loled when I got called a Nazi. Shit is retarded. 

You voted for a nazi. I'm guessing more than once.  It's not like his fascism was a secret. We all saw it a decade ago. Hell, he even had his richest donor do a fucking nazi salute at his inauguration. You picked your side. When he's ordering troops to fire on protesters, know you voted for that because you thought Troph had the wrong letter on her driver's license.

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1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

That’s fine. I have no ill will towards troph whatsoever. I just don’t think your gender is something that can officially be changed. If you want to live your life that way then more power to you. 

You don’t get to both sides this. Your theoretical position produces actual tangible ill will toward me and others. Ignoring that doesn’t wash the consequences of your actions away. 

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Speaking of drivers licenses, we really need to take that field off the damn things.  Unfortunately, that ship has sailed.

Costa Rica did exactly that. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I loled when I got called a Nazi. Shit is retarded. 

Do you know what we call the Germans that voted for Hitler, even if they didn't personally hate Jews?

Spoiler

Nazis.

 

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  This.

Q: "There is this amazing Republic.  It has been through wars, strife, and incredible tests.  And through it all, and because it has a relatively resilient political structure that both allows for it to evolve but also maintains the rule of law and predictability, it has incrementally improved, becoming the most prosperous country the world has ever seen.  What political/cultural development could POSSIBLY cause you to choose to throw that all away?"

A: "People who were born dudes being able to say they are chicks on their drivers licenses.  Also, I understand something like 5-6 of em might play college sports in the women's division."

Dumbest.  Fucking.  Timeline.

So those 5-6 are ok? When transgenders compete in combat sports it’s fair? Weightlifting? Why can’t women play in the nba? Or play college baseball as opposed to softball?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

So those 5-6 are ok? When transgenders compete in combat sports it’s fair? Weightlifting? Why can’t women play in the nba? Or play college baseball as opposed to softball?

Is this really your biggest social concern?  Everything else pales?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You voted for a nazi. I'm guessing more than once.  It's not like his fascism was a secret. We all saw it a decade ago. Hell, he even had his richest donor do a fucking nazi salute at his inauguration. You picked your side. When he's ordering troops to fire on protesters, know you voted for that because you thought Troph had the wrong letter on her driver's license.

Wake me up when that happens. 

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Is this really your biggest social concern?  Everything else pales?

Of course not… but why can’t it be discussed. 

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Posted
Just now, Texasborn91 said:

Wake me up when that happens. 

uhhhhhhhhhhh it's already happened once before?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-night-significant-damage-d-c-mayor-bowser-imposes-earlier-n1221126

The protesters had expected to have until a 7 p.m. curfew to voice their criticism, but police moved on them almost a half-hour before that. Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser had announced the 7 p.m. curfew earlier Monday, but it was clear shortly after 6 p.m. that authorities were getting ready for imminent conflict.

Attorney General William Barr walked purposefully between lines formed by U.S. Park Police, National Guard members and law enforcement officers from various federal agencies. The officers put on gas masks, raised shields and moved forward until they were face to face with protesters.

Then they backed off a little, and police rushed in from the east side of the street, firing rubber bullets, pepper spray, tear gas and flash-bang grenades into the crowd.

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I agree on the age. If you haven’t stood out in your political career before becoming a senior citizen then maybe it wasn’t the job for you. 
For the record: I have no problem with any person living their life the way they want to. But when it comes to legal documentation and representation in athletic events I think you should be grouped into the gender that you were genetically born into. I’m not trying to start any kind of shit. Just trying to add to the convo. 

I disagree to an extent. There are sports that are segregated for no damn good reason at all. Like archery or figure skating or the balance beam in gymnastics and shit. A sport can and should regulate itself and determine if your sex gives you some kind of unfair advantage or not. When that trans swimmer won some events (though not all of them, she did lose some events) the governing swimming body ruled people who went through puberty as a male could not compete in swimming and sure. If there is a scientific reason backed by evidence, gotcha. Just banning everybody from considering anything is too heavy handed.

Sports is pretty fucking sexist man. Sure men have an advantage but people way overstate it and in many cases it seems counter productive. I mean the reason most of us play sports is to learn team work and other social values, not to win the Super Bowl someday. But how often outside of sports are we working in a gender segregated environment? Hardly ever. It seems more socially productive to encourage sports to be co-ed whenever reasonable. But that is another issue and besides, this whole trans sports thing really only impacts a tiny number of people. Hardly a big deal.

And I don't get the legal documentation at all. People can change their name, right? Why not their gender? What difference does it make? Besides if somebody is walking around being called a man's name and looking like a man in every respect it just creates confusion if then they are legally identified as a woman.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Of course not… but why can’t it be discussed. 

Because it's a fucking stupid thing to discuss in light of all the massively illegal/corrupt shit that's going on.

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3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Of course not… but why can’t it be discussed. 

Because talking about stupid shit that doesn't matter is how we got 80 million fucking idiots to vote for a convicted felon and sex offender who is trying to destroy the rule of law and democracy in this country. Like pestering someone with terminal cancer, "Why aren't you more concerned with that little hangnail you've got there??". 

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

You don’t get to both sides this. Your theoretical position produces actual tangible ill will toward me and others. Ignoring that doesn’t wash the consequences of your actions away. 

Costa Rica did exactly that. 

I live in a free country to think the way I fucking want to. How many times can I say you should be respected as a person. I’m sorry our opinions are different. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

uhhhhhhhhhhh it's already happened once before?

Shit, protesters got shot in AUSTIN.  "Less lethal" rounds turned out to be pretty damn injurious.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I disagree to an extent. There are sports that are segregated for no damn good reason at all. Like archery or figure skating or the balance beam in gymnastics and shit. A sport can and should regulate itself and determine if your sex gives you some kind of unfair advantage or not. When that trans swimmer won some events (though not all of them, she did lose some events) the governing swimming body ruled people who went through puberty as a male could not compete in swimming and sure. If there is a scientific reason backed by evidence, gotcha. Just banning everybody from considering anything is too heavy handed.

And I don't get the legal documentation at all. People can change their name, right? Why not their gender? What difference does it make? Besides if somebody is walking around being called a man's name and looking like a man in every respect it just creates confusion if then they are legally identified as a woman.

Your name is not genetically coded to you at conception. It’s given based on variable social and personal factors. 

I’ll debate you and say if there was a female that was good enough to play at the highest levels of the NBA that shit would be welcomed with open arms! I would fucking love it. But if a bunch of D3 men’s bench warmers decided to take their talents to WNBA?  Ugh, not so much. I agree if it’s not a physically demanding sport that both genders can compete at equal levels then have at it. 

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