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1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

Blowing Abreu and Hader in a game we lose surely won’t come back to bite us later in this series 

Houston Astros have a record of 20-9 in one-run games during the 2025 MLB regular season

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This team just fucking sucks right now. No really other way to put it. Not saying  we won't regroup and still have a successful year, but right now they're a beating. 

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1 minute ago, Mo Horn said:

This team just fucking sucks right now. No really other way to put it. Not saying  we won't regroup and still have a successful year, but right now they're a beating. 

This is an appropriate response. 

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8 hours ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

The last time one had 18 guys on the injured list and didn’t know if/when any would be back, how healthy they would be when they came, how they would perform when they came back, had a farm system with little talent and had just gotten demolished in 4 games by a last place team. That time. 
 

And I thought Brown was an ace too. I don’t think trading Framber is a white flag. The Tigers traded Flaherty last year during pennant race and I believe they beat us in the playoffs. They got back their starting shortstop and a catcher in Baseball 100. All I’m saying is if the Dodgers or whoever offer you one of their top two outfield prospects and a pitcher for Framber then it’s at least worth considering. The unprecedented nature of this Astros season should leave anything possible, as crazy as it sounds. 

Agreed. I’d rather go this route than overpay for some rental that is not going to make a difference anyway. The proper move at this point is to probably do nothing at the deadline. 

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6 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

Agreed. I’d rather go this route than overpay for some rental that is not going to make a difference anyway. The proper move at this point is to probably do nothing at the deadline. 

Then lose Valdez in the off-season for a single draft pick. They need to be serious about where this team is and trade him.

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Valdez is pitching magnificently, but to what end? I'd feel better about keeping him if he'd always lit it up in October and I believed we'd somehow regain enough offense to still be playing then. He and Brown at least give us a puncher's chance in any series. 

Staying on the topic of hypotheticals, if we get multiple bats back within the next month but then don't make the playoffs, would you dump Espada? I'd be tempted, even if there's a sound argument that months of collective injuries were just too much for any manager to overcome. His lineups and bullpen decisions continue to puzzle, and right now they need to be perfect every night. 

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here's the deal as i see it ...

there is no dominate team this year

we beat some damn good teams with key players out

you get that first round bye. the next round we have two #1's (3 to 4 starts, back end of the bp is damn good). we get some bats back and two more starters. we'll be in damn good shape.

get bats and pitching back by mid aug, then make a fucking run. well be in the mix for an october run. 

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Maybe throw a better pitch next time instead of talking shit on the defensive alignment to the press.

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1 minute ago, dr99 said:

Maybe throw a better pitch next time instead of talking shit on the defensive alignment in the press, dickhead.

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Framber Valdez was frustrated with the defensive positioning on this play, saying: "It doesn't make sense that that was a double. It doesn't make sense that the right-fielder was playing center field with a lefty that was hitting. ... That should have been a single. That shouldn't have been a double, and the runner should have been at third and not at home."

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Framber Valdez was frustrated with the defensive positioning on this play, saying: "It doesn't make sense that that was a double. It doesn't make sense that the right-fielder was playing center field with a lefty that was hitting. ... That should have been a single. That shouldn't have been a double, and the runner should have been at third and not at home."

Analytics giveth, and analytics taketh away.

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8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Framber Valdez was frustrated with the defensive positioning on this play, saying: "It doesn't make sense that that was a double. It doesn't make sense that the right-fielder was playing center field with a lefty that was hitting. ... That should have been a single. That shouldn't have been a double, and the runner should have been at third and not at home."

He's right. That alignment was horrible.

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12 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Then lose Valdez in the off-season for a single draft pick. They need to be serious about where this team is and trade him.

If they knew more about Javier and Garcia and France (and even add McCullers to that list) then trading Valdez would make more sense.  As it is, with Framber and Brown we have a chance in any series.

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Just now, Ojo Rojo said:

If they knew more about Javier and Garcia and France (and even add McCullers to that list) then trading Valdez would make more sense.  As it is, with Framber and Brown we have a chance in any series.

We just lost to two of the worst teams in baseball where both of those guys gave up 1 run in their starts. 

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1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

We just lost to two of the worst teams in baseball where both of those guys gave up 1 run in their starts. 

Exactly.  If we knew whether Javier or Garcia or France could give us that then it would make the decision to trade Framber a lot easier.

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Just now, Ojo Rojo said:

Exactly.  If we knew whether Javier or Garcia or France could give us that then it would make the decision to trade Framber a lot easier.

The pitching doesn't matter when the offense can't score runs. You are assuming a lot when you are expecting guys coming off significant injuries just automatically return to the lineup without any issues, especially with this training and coaching staff.

We are now the division leader with the worst record in baseball. We are only 3.5 games away from missing the playoffs. We are 1-10 in our last 11 home games and 5-12 since sweeping the Dodgers. This isn't a team you commit future assets to make better.

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4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Javier wasn't looking great before he got hurt.

Might that because he was hurt?  There could be this strange cause and effect thing going on with the elbow. 

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1 minute ago, PGFrog said:

Might that because he was hurt?  There could be this strange cause and effect thing going on with the elbow. 

He hasn't shown much in his 3 MiLB starts to show he's back to 2022 form. Getting anything useful from a guy in year one post TJ is a very rare occurrence.

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4 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Might that because he was hurt?  There could be this strange cause and effect thing going on with the elbow. 

His 2023 wasn't so great either.  He might pitch as well as he did in 2022, but I don't think you can count on anything close to that this season and possibly going forward.  2022 may have been an outlier.

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46 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

The pitching doesn't matter when the offense can't score runs. You are assuming a lot when you are expecting guys coming off significant injuries just automatically return to the lineup without any issues, especially with this training and coaching staff.

We are now the division leader with the worst record in baseball. We are only 3.5 games away from missing the playoffs. We are 1-10 in our last 11 home games and 5-12 since sweeping the Dodgers. This isn't a team you commit future assets to make better.

That's what I'm saying.  The timing of when guys are coming back is bad.  They'll all be back after the deadline, so we don't have any information on how all these guys are going to do post-injury.  I'm saying if we had more information then the decision whether or not to trade Framber would be an easier one.

The injuries have finally caught up with us.  You can't play a lineup of half AAA guys and expect to win long term.  We're lucky to be where we are.  We just gotta hope that when our guys get back they can win like they had been.

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It’s unbelievable to me but a lot of Astros X fans are actually ok with trading Framber and even advocating for it. If Dana was considering it the sell job to the fans won’t be near as hard as it would have been a week ago. Everyone sees the writing on the wall. I think it’s prob only 10-20% chance of happening. He did slip in the comment he would have to trade off of the major league roster. Of course all our prospects are on the major league roster at the moment.
It’s really simple to me. If doctors say Yordan will return with a 100% clean bill of health with no caveats for reinjury, then you keep Framber and go for it. If there is any doubt that Yordan returns or returns 100%, you trade Framber. Without a healthy Yordan in the middle of the lineup, adding any bat will mean nothing in the playoffs. 
 

And MLB really should move the trade deadline back at least to Aug 15 after adding the wildcards. Even two more weeks would define teams playoff pictures more clearly.

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